It only took a few days for the arrests of would-be terrorists in New York City to fall off the front page. Well, sure, nothing exploded–and God bless the cops, the FBI and other investigators for shutting this particular gang of Murderous Islamist Nutbags down. But if the MIN’s had had their way, officials believe New York would have suffered the sort of simultaneous explosions that took the lives of nearly 200 people in Madrid back in 2004. Imagine the headlines then. Why not? It could have happened. It nearly did. Something like it may yet.
So my question is this: what’s the use of all this good will President Obama has supposedly built up for us in the Arab world? All those apologies, all that groveling before some of the worst and most ignorant tyrants on the planet. Wasn’t that supposed to turn the tide of Arab feeling in our favor?
Remember Obama’s first sit down interview after taking office — with Al-Arabiya Arab television:
“We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect. But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there’s no reason why we can’t restore that. And that I think is going to be an important task.”
This is from the leader of a great and good and free country that had been sneak-attacked by a group of Arab madmen working in the interests of a savage ideology. The suggestion — no, it was more than a suggestion — was that, in defending ourselves, we had now become a colonial power and that the “respect and partnership” we had with the Muslim world 20 to 30 years ago should be the model we return to.
But, of course, it was that very respect and partnership that fostered the mindset of 9/11. We gave the glad hand to oil-fat sheiks while they lived like demi-gods off their country’s riches and quelled the impoverished and uneducated populace by allowing their mosques and madrassas to preach slavish religious submission and virulent hatred of the west.
President Bush was constantly being attacked by the left for inciting Islamic terrorists by standing up to them. After the recent arrests in New York, it seems to me we should all be asking: Isn’t it Obama who has incited Islamist murder by shamelessly appeasing the tyrants at its source?
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1. Pajamas Media » New York City Terror Plot: But We Apologized!:[...] Read the entire story here. [...]
Sep 23, 2009 - 3:43 pm 2. Rayford:Guys I wish you stop generalizing, these are not Arabs these are a few deranged individuals! Arabs follow Islam and Islam is a religion of peace that we have been asked by your highness to respect.
Sep 23, 2009 - 4:27 pm 3. Is It?:Besides is going to take a lot more than just apologizing to convince the Arab world whose side we are on, it’s going to take the unilateral dismantleling of nuclear offensive weapons and the stand down of American conventional forces around the world before the Arba world is convinced that our country’s ‘open hand,unclenched fist’ policy is genuine.
Considering the source; Mr. Klavan, the subject; extremist terrorism and the problem; Barrack Hussein Obama this article is remarkably short.
In fact it’s almost as though the absurd insanity of Obama’s actions have left Mr. Klavan virtually speechless.
Is now the time to bring up the fact that the people that made sure that Obama was elected are even more dysfunctional than he is?
Sep 23, 2009 - 4:31 pm 4. Chuck Pelto:TO: Andrew Klavan, et al.
RE: As If….
….’barbarians’ are civilized in the first place.
But then, the muslim Obama knew that in the first place.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 23, 2009 - 4:51 pm 5. Leatherneck:[Don't you love it when a Plan comes together?]
How many Muslims supported this attack? Where did the money come from?
But that is not the point of this subject, and those who think Obama looks at terrorism the same way Pajamas Media has, it not understanding the situation.
Obama sees terrorism as a crime, not an act of war. The CFR sees it the same way. That is why we listen to Obama talk to the enemy. These global Marxists believe every man is good inside, and you only have to talk enough to them to bring about peace.
It is a mind set that throws away G-d, and makes man a god. It throws away all of G-d’s laws,(not a moon god, or any other pagan god, but the G-d of Moses and Noah), in order to have a complete secular order. A Order that murders children to Molock,(selfish reasons), called abortion, spare the rod on children in school, etc…
Obama’s agenda on terror is but one part of a Global agenda. It is almost as if he is following a play book from Soros.
Sep 23, 2009 - 4:52 pm 6. e:Mr. Klavan,
The true result of Obama’s apologies have become abundantly clear. Just look at all the pontifications of all of our enemies at the UN today. Just analyzing that would be a good topic for one of your PJTV spots.
Sep 23, 2009 - 5:13 pm 7. deguello:Nothing like a 9/11 replay,to bring home to NYC Obama-crazed libtards,the fact that voting democrat has consequences.As I see it,it’s a win-win situation;a terrorist success means, a few less liberals to waste oxygen,and an improvement in the collective intelligence of humanity.The optimal result would be a catastrophic loss of support for Obama.Either is a consummation devoutly to be wished. Let’s hope the FBI falls asleep at the switch!
Sep 23, 2009 - 5:22 pm 8. Ed Wallis:I’m just coming off of watching “Singin’ In The Rain”,
Sep 23, 2009 - 5:41 pm 9. David W. Lincoln:and have to admit that the title of this article made me suddenly think
of another “fine, fine cinematographer” (God forgive me for my sarcasm),
Michael Moore, who said after 9/11 (to paraphrase),
“Why did they bomb NYC? We hate America TOO!”
There are 2 segments of Arab society. The larger one, I suspect, agrees with the pronouncements of Hassan Nasrallah. That portion of Arab society is the one Agent Zero apologized for. That segment of Arab society boils things down to, “You are different, therefore you are wrong”, because they see they are different from us. We are attacked because we are different. So, what is the most profound way that this difference is displayed? We, who are attacked by the Sons of Allah, have greater respect for property rights. How? Because we respect the property
rights of more people, and we do it more often
as compared to the Sons of Allah.
Then, there is the segment of Arab society who
Sep 23, 2009 - 5:56 pm 10. Paul M Hupf:agree with the likes of Nonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan, Walid Shoebat, Bat Yeor, and those who
speak the same thing. This segment of Arab society agrees with us that it is necessary for property rights of more, rather than fewer, be respected, and this to be done more often, rather than fewer. Why? Because this
is the harder road to true progress, but it is
worth it in the end.
For all of his shortcomings in domestic matters (The President isn’t a leader; he is a cheer leader), his conduct in foreign affairs is worse: he is endangering the safety of the people of this country. He is experimenting. His vanity and self esteem have overruled sound judgment, if in fact the President has any sound judgment.
Sep 23, 2009 - 6:52 pm 11. Substance McGravitas:After the recent arrests in New York, it seems to me we should all be asking: Isn’t it Obama who has incited Islamist murder by shamelessly appeasing the tyrants at its source?
It seems to me that we should be asking “Isn’t terrorism working if Andrew Klavan is so terrified that a guy speaking reasonably to Muslim A means Muslim B gets permission to blow stuff up?”
I mean, they all know each other.
Sep 23, 2009 - 7:18 pm 12. Substance McGravitas:Note also that Afghans are not Arabs.
Sep 23, 2009 - 7:29 pm 13. Now and Then:Petulant, thy name is Klavan!
Sep 23, 2009 - 7:37 pm 14. M. Miller:The only time that non-Muslims (infidels) had a “good” relationship with Muslim was when it served the purposes of the Muslims. The Koran and associated hadiths say that the only time Muslims should enter into any treaty (truce) with infidels is when the Muslims need time to regroup, rearm, and grow stronger. That is exactly what we saw 20 to 30 years ago and what we’ve seen throughout history. This is something Pres. Obama won’t accept. He seems to think he is special and can have a unique, long-term relationship with Muslims in contravention with the Koran. Naive!
Sep 23, 2009 - 7:52 pm 15. Pragmatist:Wow brilliant piece of incisive rebuttal there Now and Then. Why are Trolls always so moronic? Anyway you got it from the horses mouth at the UN. The Mohammedan BOGUS POTUS really is a narcissistic megalomaniac he thinks he rules the World and he really really hates the USA even more than the tin pot Dictators and Islamic extremists whos ars*s he is constantly licking. He is the worst thing possible an EXTREME left wing PC MC Islamophile antisemitic anti American Green NAZI moonbat. God help America.
Sep 23, 2009 - 7:57 pm 16. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Heh
Better to be ‘petulant’ than ‘irrelevant’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 23, 2009 - 7:59 pm 17. HalifaxCB:P.S. I suspect his drug-habit was deluding him think he was being ‘clever’. Especially since Klavan is hardly ever ‘petulant’. But I’ve seen the likes of Now and Then be that. As in the immediately above…..it’s called ‘projection’…..
Paul @10; I generally agree; the only contention I have is that the President is not ‘experimenting’. Experimentation implies some sort of principled search guiding the activity, and I see no sign of that. I’d say he’s playing by ear, and that ear is solidly glued to the mouth of the Left.
Leatherneck @5 – Up to a year ago I would have laughed at any notion of a global agenda (it’s been a constant source of amusing chatter for years on trading boards). But not now. It’s like he’s campaigning 24/7 for President of the World.
deguello @5 – FOAD.
If you want dead bodies, you can keep up with the count via http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ . This guy does yeoman’s work tracking Islamicist murders around the globe. As much as I may dislike this administration, I never want to see another 9/11. Or even hear jokes about it.
Finaly, on a positive note, I see that HotAir has put up a blurb on Canadian PM Harper’s comment re. Ahmadinejad – http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/23/will-the-us-join-canada-in-ajad-walkout/ . Watch the video, it’s short, sweet, and to the point.
Sep 23, 2009 - 8:00 pm 18. Delia:So much for that Kumbaya crap.
Sep 23, 2009 - 8:05 pm 19. Andrew:OK, don’t flame me as some lefty, because I am not. I totally support Bush’s aggressive War on Terror!
But, I want to correct something in this story and also in the comments. The term Arab is being used synonymously with Muslim. This is both wrong and ignorant.
The dude arrested in Colorado is from Eastern Afghanistan and later moved to Pakistan. He could be a few different ethnicity’s, probably Pashtun or Persian, but it is unlikely that he is Arab.
Again, I don’t want to sound like a lib, but I think Mr Klavan at the very least should not make such an ignorant mistake
The fight is not against an ethnicity, rather it is against the radical Islamic extremists. They come in all sorts of flavors…Arab in the Middle East, Persians in Iran, Africans in Somalia, as well as the extremists in the Philippines and Indonesia.
Sep 23, 2009 - 8:08 pm 20. Delia:Chuck P.,
Don’t hurt its’ feelings or we’ll end up having to hear about how he’s a lonely, twinkie addicted, obese tranny with a flaming case ‘roids [again].
Sep 23, 2009 - 8:12 pm 21. biblio44:“So my question is this: what’s the use of all this good will President Obama has supposedly built up for us in the Arab world?”
12. Substance McGravitas: “Note also that Afghans are not Arabs.”
You’re nitpicking, McG. To Klavan they all look alike.
Sep 23, 2009 - 8:33 pm 22. pedro:So few people in the West know anything about Islam, it’s beliefs and history. Mohammed did not preach love and brotherhood, he came with a sword.
Sep 23, 2009 - 9:06 pm 23. Dave Surls:“These global Marxists believe every man is good inside…”
Sounds reasonable.
Let’s take a few thousand (more) terrorists apart and see if that’s true.
Sep 23, 2009 - 9:57 pm 24. politics for dummies:Especially after today’s idiotic, American bashing, light footed UN speech, all doubt floating around my grey matter about Nut-o-bama has been dispelled. He’s certifiable.
No matter where he was born, he hasn’t the foggiest idea what it means to be an American.
Hiring Obama to be President is like asking a blind man to solve a Rubik’s cube. He totally lacks the capacity.
Apologiz-obama has no idea how to govern this country. He’s put us in critical danger and he refuses to believe it.
Like I said a while back, the guy is a literal, liberal misfit, a socialist peg in a democratic/republic hole.
But you hear much the same kind of conclusion from Rush, Sean or Glenn. Hate to do it, but I take it a step further.
On Oct. 25, 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis would have not had the same ending if Obama was President. A decision was made that day Obama doesn’t have to wisdom to make in a million years.
Right now, every one of our enemies or potential enemies believes Nobama lacks the will or want to launch a full relatiatory reponse if the U. S. were attacked. Obama’s got a million bad reasons not to respond, and one great reason to do it. And he’d side with the million. No guts. No dog in the fight.
Today, every enemy knows, or at least is certain after hearing Obama’s namby pamby talk at the U.N. that there’s no Patton or Ike or Kennedy in him. No nuclear response will always be Obama’s response.
Why doesn’t Russia nuke us now that they have the opportunity? A good question.
I think they’re just waiting for Israel to try to Nuke out Iran’s missiles. Then Russia will vaporize you, you kids and your wife.
Maybe I call myself Politics for Dummies because anybody who allowed Obama to be elected was in all likelihood signing his family’s death warrant.
That’s the direction we’re going in.
Hannity and Rush will take you as far as saying Israel is in danger of being wiped out. Iran’s delivery system is about three weeks away from being operational.
Three weeks to live. Just think about that when you kiss your children goodnight.
Because I’ve been around politics long enough to know Russia will see this as a once in a lifetime chance to destroy America without firing the first shot. Israel or Iran will undoubtedly do the dirty work.
If I could do something to stop this I would. I know that I can’t because in the last two weeks I’ve called in all my chits to no avail.
We are in mortal danger. Obama didn’t get us there. It’s the idiots who voted for him.
Politics for Dummies doesn’t weigh possibilities. We see things coming a mile away, and try to pull the best Paul Revere imitation we can. But outside of the think tank I work with in Chicago, nobody’s listening to us. All our Republican friends are taking vacations starting in about two weeks. They’ll be out of the country.
If you saw Barney Frank on Fox tonight, you saw a look you’ve never seen before. This morning I called him up and shared with him my thoughts. And he said it was too late to do anything about it. About nine months to late. I closed with Barney, “nice knowing you.”
God, I wish I weren’t so cock sure. I hope I’m wrong. I really do.
Sep 23, 2009 - 10:20 pm 25. lyle:These arrests should remind us that jihadis are still at war with us. They’ll keep trying to kill us. Their targets, as always, are unarmed civilians in the largest numbers possible.
Obama, out of lifelong Marxist conviction, believes that our attackers are justified by our imperialist aggression, and that he can assuage their fury by showing sympathy, giving them what they want, and promising not to oppress them any more.
I live in New York. He’s betting with my life.
Sep 23, 2009 - 10:43 pm 26. Chuck Pelto:TO: pedro, et al.
RE: Indeed
His first ‘miracle’ was to knock-over a caravan.
Compare that with Jesus’ first miracle, turning water into wine at a wedding feast.
No wonder Muslims are supposed to abhor alcohol….it would point them to a REAL miracle worker.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 24, 2009 - 12:30 am 27. ProudKafir7908:[The influence of the religion [Islam] paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world — Winston Churchill, 1899]
Barack Arafat Saddam Hussein Osama should have learned a few lessons from world history on how to keep mahoundians at bay. Appeasement, apologies and sandal-licking will only embolden those inbred bedouin savages that worship allah, their pedophile prophet’s imaginary alter-ego.
Mahoundians understand only one kind of language and message coming from infidels (a.k.a human beings) that wish to get them to respect them, and that is anything that instills fear in their sorry excuses for hearts. Thomas Jefferson talked to the Barbary Coast pirates in that language, and so did John Sobieski to the Ottomans at the Gates of Vienna. It’s about time Western leaders recalled those lessons and, once again, put them into practice if our civilization is to survive its struggle against 7th-Century child-molesting, misogynistic, supremacist, racist, Mein-Qurampf-thumping barbaric desert rats.
Sep 24, 2009 - 1:45 am 28. JFM:His first ‘miracle’ was to knock-over a caravan.
Its members travelled unarmed because in the holy month of Ramadan there was a truce observed by even the most hardened criminals.
Note to leftist nitpickers: The holy month of Ramadan existed well before Islam. The only thing changed by Muhammad is that instead of being a month of Peace it became the best month for making war on infidels.
Sep 24, 2009 - 3:11 am 29. GCPSteve:#23 lyle
AMEN NEIGHBOR!! I’m from NY as well and posts like #7 Deguello scare the heck out of me. No one should be hoping for another 9-11.
Deguello should be ashamed of him/her self.
Sep 24, 2009 - 4:51 am 30. Larry:Rayford:
Guys I wish you stop generalizing, these are not Arabs these are a few deranged individuals! Arabs follow Islam and Islam is a religion of peace that we have been asked by your highness to respect.
Youv’e got to be kidding me!
Islam is the furthest thing from a Religion of peace there could be.
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2009.09.23 (Kandahar, Afghanistan) – Three children and two women are among seven innocents wiped out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
Sep 24, 2009 - 4:59 am 31. Now and Then:2009.09.23 (Pattani, Thailand) – Two Buddhists, one a 19-year-old woman, are brutally murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2009.09.23 (Yala, Thailand) – A 16-year-old boy is shot to death by Muslim radicals in a drive-by attack.
2009.09.22 (Mogadishu, Somalia) – Eight civilians are killed during an attack by Islamic hardliners.
2009.09.22 (Baramulla, India) – A local soldier is gunned down in an ambush by Islamic militants.
2009.09.21 (Latifiya, Iraq) – Three people are incinerated by a Jihad bomb blast at a gas station.
7. deguello:
“A terrorist success means, a few less liberals to waste oxygen,and an improvement in the collective intelligence of humanity.The optimal result would be a catastrophic loss of support for Obama.Either is a consummation devoutly to be wished. Let’s hope the FBI falls asleep at the switch!”
Let’s here it for the sociopath! If only he were alone in his delusion, but there are others like him out there. Others whose limp-dicked rage inspire them to kill single fathers working two jobs to support his family. Of guello, you and your ilk are the quintessence of cowardice. I suggest you stay in your house with your Chuck Norris box set and leave the civilized world to struggle forth unimpeded by your revenge fantasies.
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:29 am 32. BettyBlue:But—but—but—
I thought miracle man Obama was supposed to make the whole world looooooooooove us!
/Major sarc.
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:31 am 33. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Now and Then, Again
Look who’s talking….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:35 am 34. Now and Then:[The Truth will out....]
28. Chuck Pelto:
“Look who’s talking….”
Ah, the Mensa mind at work. Stick with 1s and 0s, Chuck, they hide your juvenile mind.
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:40 am 35. The Infidel Alliance:Dear #12. Substance McGravitas:
You posit “Note also that Afghans are not Arabs.”
You are of course technically correct, but EVERY Muslim/Islamist is an Arab subject due to Islamo-Arab imperialism.
This is why you find Arab root words like “salaam” ranging from Kosovo to Mindinao. Arabic is the holy lingua franca of Islam, which makes all Islamists culturally defacto Arabs.
~ The Infidel Alliance
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:44 am 36. now and Then:27. BettyBlue:
But—but—but—
W made the whole world haaaaaaaaaate us. It’s like the economy. You can’t expect 8 years of unbridled greed, lying and incompetence to be fixed in 8 months. What was the economy like 8 months into Reagan’s first term? Go ahead, do the google. I’ll wait.
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:50 am 37. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Doesn’t…
…Now and Then’s jealousy, portray he-she in a bad light?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 24, 2009 - 6:12 am 38. Now and Then:P.S. And his-her understanding of international affairs only adds to the evidence of a sorry state of mental abilities. No wonder he-she is jealous.
37 Puck Chelto
Jealous? Geez, we didn’t really need another example of your juvenalia. What’s next – I know you are but what am I? Your thinkin cap is a couple sizes too small.
0+0=0
BTW – FED
Sep 24, 2009 - 7:17 am 39. Paul of Alexandria:Rayford (2): Guys I wish you stop generalizing
Please read through Jihad Watch.org, especially the Islam 101 and Qur’an Commentary pages.
See also Apostates of Islam, actually written by a bunch of former Muslims.
Also please listen to the segment of Issues Etc featuring Robert Spencer (Tuesday, September 22nd, 2009, Fourth segment: “A Muslim Prayer Gathering on Capitol Hill”; the segment covers the upcoming prayer gathering.
The main point to realize is that the “extremist jihadis” are, in fact, orthodox Muslims. They rightfully claim to be following the true path of Islam; it is the Muslims who befriend and live peacefully with non-Muslims who are not true to their faith.
Martin Luther tried to reform the Roman Catholic church in the 16th century – eventually being forced to break away, but he could support his position by citing Scripture and the early Church fathers. No peaceful Muslim would-be reformer can do likewise since their scriptures and early writings totally support the jihadis.
Sep 24, 2009 - 7:38 am 40. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Target!
Nothing like projective diatribes of juvenile form to prove a point.
Regards
[You know you've hit the target, because of all the secondary detonations.]
P.S. I’ll wager dollars against donuts that this is about as far as he-she can go in a stand up debate. It always seems to boil down to this with him-her. Especially after the first series of posts by him-her are discounted as being fabrications of their wishful thinking. Afterwards, it’s all ad hom-esque name-calling on his-her part…..as witnessed above.
Sep 24, 2009 - 8:12 am 41. Chuck Pelto:TO: Paul of Alexandria, et al.
RE: Not Only THAT….
….but the jihadis would kill any ‘Muslim would-be reformer’, as such would be a threat to their power and authority.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 24, 2009 - 8:20 am 42. Now and Then:[The strength and power of despotism consists wholly in the fear of resistance. -- Thomas Paine]
41 Luck Chelto
“Look who’s talking . . . You’re just jealous . . . Projection”
You got nothing but playground retorts and it shows. Don’t you have a data base that needs scrubbing?
Sep 24, 2009 - 8:27 am 43. Leatherneck:#23, LMAOROTF!
Still no word on where the lovers of allah the moon god got the money, and support. Plus, the young bearded one walks into court in broad daylight with no vest.
I was thinking this should be handled with a military court, because they are the enemy, a quick trial, then shot at dawn. Just in time for Fridays payers in DC where other lovers of allah will be sounding their pagan religion off the walls of the Capital.
As you can tell, I have lost all respect for the religion of peace.
ROPMA!
Sep 24, 2009 - 8:28 am 44. Chuck Pelto:TO: Leatherneck, et al.
RE: Heh
With bullets dipped in freshly slaughtered pigs blood. Pig slaughtered and bullets dipped before the eyes of the ‘honoree’.
Just like then Captain Pershing allegedly did it in the PIs during the Moro insurgency.
[Note: The insurgency almost immediately 'stopped'. And Pershing was called back to Washington and promoted, ahead of his contemporaries and a number of others, from captain to general....according to reports.]
Regards,
Chuck(le]
Sep 24, 2009 - 9:11 am 45. myth buster:[Nothing succeeds like success.]
If the world hates us, so be it. Let them hate, as long as they fear. The problem is, no one fears Obama except Americans. Bin Laden dared not attack a nuclear power plant because (though unbeknownst to him, the plant would’ve withstood being struck by an airliner) he feared that President Bush would retaliate with nuclear weapons.
Sep 24, 2009 - 9:24 am 46. Chuck Pelto:TO: myth buster
RE: In the Words….
…of the immortal Teddy Roosevelt….
The world will never love us. It will respect us. Some of it will even fear us. But it will never love us.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 24, 2009 - 9:48 am 47. Substance McGravitas:[Peace means having a bigger stick than the other guy. -- Tony Stark, Ironman]
You are of course technically correct, but EVERY Muslim/Islamist is an Arab subject due to Islamo-Arab imperialism.
You may find that people in Afghanistan do not care about Hosni Mubarak.
Sep 24, 2009 - 10:38 am 48. Poor Citizen:Your article is great except for a couple of points. There is no record of Obama of apologizing, hence your sub title is incorrect. And two, Bush was not only attacked by the left, he (and the US while he was president) was dismissed and laughed at by the entire civilized, and uncivilized world, including the far right. Just ask Ron Paul.
Other than that, good article. History 101, its working.
Sep 24, 2009 - 11:15 am 49. deguello:NOW and THEN : Hit a nerve, didn’t I filth?Cowardice! the word on the mouth of a libtard is surreal and nonsensical.You elect a mealy mouthed Neville Chamberlain in Blackface,and dare speak of cowardice?I don’t stay home and watch action movies, but if I did, It’s preferable to going out to museums to admire a picture of the virgin Mary covered with feces, and call it art. Nor would I call the vicious Eminem, a genius like the libtard paper of choice the NY Slimes did.I leave that to the true sociopaths,the liberal nihilists, who in imposing this decadence globally,Is the real reason why the “whole world hates us,” It’s because of “progressives like you that whore out every value,support cultural rot like RAP, performance art,prematurely sexualize children for profit,and tolerate any kind of swinish behavior,as long as it makes money,that infuriates people here, and overseas. Were the Arabs to nuke places like Hollywood, and NY, the whole raison d’etre for Jihad would end.That’s the dirty little secret of the situation.That’s why every conservative should hope that the FBI and the CIA interrogators go into indifference mode.How does it feel to be a target? eh,Now and Then? Every now and then a libtard gets hoisted with his own petard.-
Sep 24, 2009 - 11:26 am 50. But… But… We APOLOGIZED!!! « Boudica BPI Weblog:[...] below are a few excerpts. Please visit the source for the complete article. Obama is a dangerous person for our Republic, for our safety, for our [...]
Sep 24, 2009 - 11:33 am 51. JFM:Dicen que triste cosa es no tener amigos, pero más triste es no tener enemigos. Porque quien enemigos no tenga, es señal de que no tiene, ni talento que haga sombra, ni bienes que se le codicien, ni carácter que impresione, ni valor temido, ni honra de la que se murmure, ni ninguna cosa buena que se le envidie.
“They say it is a sad thing to have no friends, but sadder is to have no enemies. Because to have no enemies, means to have no talent who makes shade, no wealth who is envied, no character who impresses, no courage who strikes fear, no honor to gossip about, no good thing someone is jealous about”.
With Obama America will no longer be hated and feared by the successors of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. Be it Castro, Chavez, Chirac, Ahmedinajad or Kim Jong Il none of teh corrupts and of the despots will be an enemy.
Sep 24, 2009 - 11:36 am 52. Chuck Pelto:TO: Poor Citizen
RE: Ron Who?
Who is he? And why should I care?
RE: Bush v. the World
Your ignorance is showing. Either that your your lies.
Britain and Australia sent troops to Iraq. The Kuwaitis love Bush. The Israelis like him. Eastern Europeans love him. The Japanese have high regard for him, despite his making a mess at the dinner table.
So. Considering you seem to be somewhat familiar with the internet, I’ll just have to do with your being an outright liar.
Hope that helps….as you’ll be seeing it again and again and again…..now that you’re properly identified.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 24, 2009 - 11:40 am 53. Now and Then:[Prevaricator, n., Liar in the maggot stage of development.]
Now, now, now of geullo, you really need to exercise a little restraint. You’re familiar with restraints, aren’t you, of guello? Like those canvas straps with Velcro ties that you escaped before you ran into the Kentucky woods looking for a FED.
And soon you will slip the bonds of sanity once and for all, leaving your family and that “special friend” to wonder, “What could we have done to reverse his slide into the abyss? Counseling? Chemicals? A good Christian spanking? Maybe a hike out on the Appalachian Trail? An autographed copy of ‘Who’s Nailin Palin’? If only we’d had a vile of Glenn Beck’s creamy DNA to soothe his ravaged soul! Oh, of guello, it didn’t have to end like this.”
Of course, they’ll be the only ones wondering. Other of us know you’ve been down the rabbit hole since the get go.
It’s nerve time.
Sep 24, 2009 - 12:17 pm 54. Peter the Bubblehead:52. Chuck Pelto wrote:
Britain and Australia sent troops to Iraq. The Kuwaitis love Bush. The Israelis like him. Eastern Europeans love him. The Japanese have high regard for him, despite his making a mess at the dinner table.
Peter adds: You forgot to include large areas of sub-Saharan Africa, because of the immense amount of aid, particularly where fighting against AIDS/HIV, that he promised and authorized.
Remember the news reports of huge parties being thrown for Bush whenever he arrived in Africa?
Pretty popular in Kosovo, Isreal, and Lebanon too.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7821449.stm
Sep 24, 2009 - 1:29 pm 55. McBride:Deguello,post #7 is really flying the red flag.
Sep 24, 2009 - 1:54 pm 56. deguello:#53NOW AND THEN What’s the matter Now and Then? is the penicillin dose too low? are those little spyrochetes obtained on your last NAMBLA sponsored trip to a Thai boy bordello multiplying too fast and interfering with your ability to spell?It’s Deguello BTW.Or is the strain of having made yourself a terrorist target by voting for an appeasing simp of a president, combined with living in a blue city,vulnerable to terrorist atack,ruining your concentration? Which is it? Amateur psychologists,at PJM want to know. Now for some doses of reality guaranteed to increase your hysteria:Note to PJMer’s reminding a libtard of the real world is like reminding a vampire of garlic;it produces extreme psychological discomfort.1.You voted for an appeasing disgrace of a president;a sort of Neville Chamberlain in blackface,minus the manliness.2.Said cretin is blaming his own country for defending itself,betraying our allies,and gravely weakening our defenses,as our enemies,laugh at him,and arm themselves with nukes.3In this climate,a terrorist strike is a certainty,as is the site: a blue liberal pesthole.4.Most casualties will be libs(they’d none of them be missed)Except by NAMBLA,and ACLU.5The ensuing backlash will destroy the Obama presidency, and fatally weaken the demtard party.If you survive,and I hope you do,I look forward to your next troll missive,full of the usual libtard patronizing tropes, lies,and other delusions, that substitute for thought and analysis in the bedlam world of the liberal.When confronted with the consequences of your own political cretinism, what new fantasy will you invent to mitigate your defeat? Maybe another tour of Thailand,is in order,this time with condoms,to avoid the ravages of yet another bout of the syph. I’ve never visited the Kentucky woods, but they sounds much nicer, than visiting a NAMBLA approved,underage boy brothel in a Thai slum.Don’t forget your condoms!Don’t forget to write!
Sep 24, 2009 - 2:06 pm 57. Now and Then:56 of guello
I suggest you check into a comma crisis center. I’m quite sure they’ll be able to help you with your separation/repetition issues. That is, if you can afford it. If not you can seek assistance from a government program or perhaps beg for charity. That will keep you inside the rails of Eric Cantor’s Health Care Plan.
Now you can expect a strip search and possibly some cavity inquiry. Don’t let that bother you. Just tape your Marlboros to your chest and you should be fine. The food? Well, let’s just say you’ll be as regular as grandfather’s clock.
Remember, the people there are trying to help you, so don’t be combative, don’t threaten them with psychological warfare, and don’t throw any poo at them. And because you’re on the “Conservative Curriculum” you’ll probably encounter some challenging roommates. In fact, I’ve called ahead and arranged a real patriot for you to bunk with – he’s from Kentucky, has the world’s biggest collection of Michelle Malkin cheerleader videos, favors hatchets over pistols, and has been diagnosed as criminally insane. But fear not, he believes heartily in the 2nd Amendment. (Though you might want to avoid arguing with him about who gets the remote control.) I’m sure you’ll be fine.
No, no, please. No need to thank me. You want me to know how much you appreciate what I’m doing, I know, but really, I’d do it for any raging lunatic I come across. However, if you wish to opine and you choose to write back, please don’t be . . . pecksniffian. Pecksniffian. And remember, I’m definitely looking out for you.
Why here comes Nurse Coulter now . . . “Mr. Of Guello? Hello? Mr. Of Guello, your room is ready . . . Ah, there you are. Hello, how are you? Goooood. Now, we’re just going to make one little stop on the way to meet your roommate. You don’t mind do you? Gooood. Right this way. Here we are. We call this the Feel Good Room. It was donated by Rush Limbaugh! Now, pull down your PJs just a bit, OK? That’s it, just a little peeky at the cheeky.Don’t worry, this is just going to be a little prick. Oops, I see they already mentioned that on your chart. Silly me, what are the chances? Anyway, here we go! Thaaat’s right. Good job! Feeling a little woozy? That’s OK, everybody does. Just sit down right her in this wheelchair and we’ll roll you down to the Glenn Beck Wing.”
Amateur.
Sep 24, 2009 - 4:37 pm 58. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Now and Then, In Crisis
What’s a “Comma Crisis Center”? Is it where you go when you’re having a mental breakdown because you don’t know where to properly punctuate a sentence with a ‘,’?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:23 pm 59. Now and Then:[We shall solve no crisis before its time.]
58. Duck Mello
Let me put this in terms you’ll understand . . . Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
Don’t be mad just cuz you can’t keep up.
Sep 24, 2009 - 5:33 pm 60. deguello:#57 Let’s examine what passes for argument in the bedlamite liberal mind:a twisted homoerotic projection about pulling a peeky at the cheeky,strip searches, investigations into anal cavities(A reference, perhaps,to Stephanoupolous interviewing Obama?),fantasizing about Michelle Malkin, and of course that devastating(and original) put-down:Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me”.This is worse than listening to Obama read without his teleprompter.Incomprehensible, until you realize that N&T is hallucinating,about his recent ACORN/NAMBLA-sponsored visit to a Thai boy brothel,where the inmates laughed at his pathetic antics (and other things besides.)Dude,take your penicillin, and leave the little boys alone.
Sep 24, 2009 - 6:20 pm 61. deguello:CHUCK#58: Yes the comma crisis,Libs love crises;soon the anointed will appoint a commaTsar or COMMASSAR,to make sure that we abuse no comma before its time, and that every comma that wants a house is given a subprime mortage to get one. Finally,ACORN will soon start bringing in underage Thai commas to service the ever-demented N&T,and all commas (even the illegal ones will get free healthcare. Like I said,to argue with a liberal is to visit Bedlam. Regards!
Sep 24, 2009 - 6:44 pm 62. deguello:#55 MCBRIDE:It’s about time libs and other similar scum get redflagged.Wave it enough,and they will charge,just like their little friends did in Chile, in 1973,and with the same results.Bring it on!
Sep 24, 2009 - 6:51 pm 63. Chuck Pelto:TO: deguello
RE: Commassar, Anyone?
Love it!
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 25, 2009 - 12:12 am 64. Chuck Pelto:[A good pun is its own reword.]
TO: All
RE: Heh
Interesting timing of this topical thread and a series of reports being linked to over at Drudge Report:
• Dallas
• Springfield, Illinois
• Quantico, Virginia
And all these useful fools who don’t understand the world—see comments by some of them above—thought the world would love US if we elected this miscreant to the Oval Office.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 25, 2009 - 12:25 am 65. Chuck Pelto:[Except that in this world are tigers. -- T.R. Fehrenbach, This Kind of War]
TO: All
RE: [OT] Redefining of WMDs
Over the last few days I’ve noticed that there has been a change in the definition of Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs).
Used to be that a WMD was a weapon of nuclear, biological or chemical, i.e., poison gas, form.
NOW, based on what I’m seeing reported in the news, e.g., the articles I link to at item #64 (above), it seems that any sort of ‘bomb’, be it a hand grenade, a stick of dynamite with nails and/or glass glued to it, or pipe bomb or whathaveyou, is considered a WMD.
It’s an interesting ‘twist’ on reality. One that seems to have been implemented by the reality warping mind of the Obama administration.
WHY?
I have no idea.
BUT….
….there are advantages and disadvantages to every situation.
In THIS instance an important disadvantage is that NOW every kitchen in America contains WMD components. For example, ‘enriched’ flour can be used to construct a Fuel-Air Explosive device. Bacon fat and styrofoam cups can be used as components of a Foo Gas flame weapon.
So every cook in America is a potential risk to national security, on a par with Iran’s nuclear weapons program.
The ‘advantage’ is that NOW, with this redefinition of WMD, Saddam Hussein OBVIOUSLY had WMDs in his possession, in the form of more professionally and commercially constructed bombs and artillery shells. And all the insurgents of in Iraq and Afghanistan have them too, in the form of Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs).
The redefinition, pulls the few teeth remaining in the anti-Iraq invasion crowd and their NOW BLATANTLY FALSE argument that Hussein HAD NO WMDs.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 25, 2009 - 12:39 am 66. Chuck Pelto:[The learned fool writes nonsense in better language that the unlearned - but it's still nonsense. -- Benjamin Franklin]
TO: All
RE: Heh
They’re talking about Now and Then over HERE. As well as a few others around these parts.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 25, 2009 - 1:07 am 67. Marie Claude:[Don't look now, but the Man in the Moon is laughing at you....N&T....and so are the rest of US.....]
54, JFM you’re just discribed France
, that you and alike felons hate so much
President Jacques Chirac, a man so partial to good grub that he once sent an Elysée palace sous-chef to Spain to learn how to make a decent oxtail soup, yesterday admitted that he had a soft spot for American junk food.
Savaged across the Atlantic for his opposition to the US march to war in Iraq, Mr Chirac said in an interview with Time magazine that he was more saddened than angry when he heard people say that his stance was inspired by anti-Americanism.
I know the US perhaps better than most French people, and I really like the United States,” he insisted, adding: “I’ve made many excellent friends there, I feel good there. I love junk food, and I always come home with a few extra pounds.”
Mr Chirac has been a self-confessed fan of America since he spent a summer at Harvard in 1953, worked in a fast-food joint and enjoyed a passionate (if brief) love affair with a Carolina belle. He reminded the magazine that his personal involvement with the US went back a long time.
“I’ve studied there, worked as a forklift operator for Anheuser-Busch in St Louis and as a soda jerk at Howard Johnson’s,” Mr Chirac said.
But his affection for the US way of life did not stop him feeling concerned about its ambitions.
“Any community with only one dominant power is always a dangerous one and provokes reactions,” he said. “That’s why I favour a multipolar world.”
It is a sad irony that Mr Chirac, who made improving transatlantic ties one of the main planks of his foreign policy, should now be presiding over the current crisis.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/17/france.jonhenley
Sep 25, 2009 - 4:23 am 68. deguello:#64 CHUCK PELTO: You read THis Kind of War? One of my all-time favorite military history texts! I made my HS US history students read it, so that they could understand the stark realities of warfare.
Sep 25, 2009 - 5:06 am 69. Peter the Bubblehead:64. Chuck Pelto wrote:
Interesting timing of this topical thread and a series of reports being linked to over at Drudge Report:
• Dallas
• Springfield, Illinois
• Quantico, Virginia
Peter writes: But… But… But… Obama APOLOGIZED!!! Aren’t they supposed to LOVE us now?!?
/sarc off
Sep 25, 2009 - 5:09 am 70. Chuck Pelto:TO: deguello
RE: [OT] This Kind of War
Every one of the general officers who came to speak to the assembled classes at Benning School for Boys, a.k.a., the Infantry School, told the officer-students, “READ THIS BOOK!”
Soooo…when I got to my next duty station, Fort Carson, CO, I found Tattered Cover and they did a nation-wide search for me.
I’m particularly impressed with (1) chapter 25, Proud Legions, and (2) the guy from the 187th who jumped into Korea with his unit on a training exercise then went AWOL and was picked up by the MPs as he was hiking his way to the battle front, as he didn’t care to be ‘in reserve’.
Then there’s the story of that sergeant they referred to as “Gypsy”—cause he wore earrings and bells on his boots. How after the position he was defending was recaptured shortly after being overrun, he was found dead amongst a pile of the enemy. His weapon empty of ammunition, the bayonet bloodied and the rifle stock broken from his using it as a club.
RE: Student Reading
I take it you taught history, like Fehrenbach.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 25, 2009 - 5:46 am 71. Now and Then:[Americans in 1950 rediscovered something that since Hiroshima they had forgotten: you may fly over a land forever; you may bomb it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life—but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, you must do this on the ground, the way the Roman legions did, by putting your young men into the mud. -- T.R. Fehrenbach, This Kind of War]
Of Guello and Of Pelto . . . you’re being pecksniffian.
Sep 25, 2009 - 6:00 am 72. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: [OT] This Kind of War (Reprised)
I should have provided a LINK TO THE BOOK for your edification.
I came across the book again while attending to advanced courses at the behest of our rich Uncle Sam, Combined Arms Staff and Service School at Fort Leavenworth, KS and the Logistics Executive Development Course at Fort Lee, VA. Both instances referred to the books report of the fiasco of Task Force SMITH.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 25, 2009 - 6:21 am 73. Chuck Pelto:[History repeats itself. That's one of the problems with history.]
P.S. It’s a good read. Fehrenbach is a good writer of history, having been a high school history teacher when he was called to duty in Korea as his National Guard unit was mobilized.
He spend the entire war in Korea as an officer assigned to an infantry battalion and, I believe, some time on regimental staff too.
When the war was ‘over’ and the unit deactivated, he returned to teaching history and started working on this great book…..which was published in the 1960s.
I highly recommend it to everyone…..include the fools here.
[The study of history is the best medicine for a sick mind. -- Livy]
Sep 25, 2009 - 6:24 am 74. deguello:CHUCK:The chapter on the Gloster Regiment’s magnificent hiiltop stand ,against an overwhelming and determined Chinese force is extremely moving.I especially remember the friendly fire incident,with a horrified American tanker screaming:”My God,how many of you people did we hit”?and Fehrenbach’s terse comment:”None of the Glosters would say.” Memorable.Yes, I teach history, and comparative literature,but I really can’t get too specific,because of the stalinist climate infesting our schools. Regards!
Sep 25, 2009 - 7:40 am 75. » Daily Links – 09/25/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country…:[...] But… But… We APOLOGIZED!!! Sphere It Share and Enjoy: [...]
Sep 25, 2009 - 9:36 am 76. Paul -Indiana:I’m sure the grovelling helped. In the same sense that Obambi ’saved’ jobs that might have been lost, I’m sure that there would have been many more plots if Obambi had not bowed to that Saudi king.
Sep 25, 2009 - 12:35 pm 77. Substance McGravitas:Tru Luv.
Sep 25, 2009 - 2:33 pm 78. Peter the Bubblehead:To Substance McGravitas @77:
You do realize, by posting that link, of course, that in Arab culture, equals kiss. Inferiors bow.
Now perhaps you have an idea why everyone was making such a point of The Won’s near-boot-licking incident?
(And since you’re likely to ask how I would know, it is because of the time I spent serving in the Gulf during my enlistment in the Navy, specifically the region of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.)
Sep 25, 2009 - 4:57 pm 79. Chuck Pelto:TO: deguello
RE: [OT] Yeah….
And then there’s the fiasco of the 2ID at Kunu Ri.
But also General Boatner and the Koji Do PW camp. [Note: His grandson was a young lieutenant in my battalion at 4ID in the early 80s. He reminded me of a bright young man waiting around to be made a general. And he was smart enough to make a good one.]
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Sep 25, 2009 - 5:25 pm 80. Dave Surls:[Like grandfather. Like grandson? One would hope.]
“the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago”
Respect?
30 years ago, the Iranians attacked our embassy and took a bunch of Americans hostage. Over the next ten years many Americans were killed by Pal [spits] terrorists. 26 years ago the boys who now call theselves Hezbollah blew up an American embassy in Beiruit and followed that up by killing a couple of hundred Americans with another bomb. 21 years ago Muslim terrorists blew up an American airliner over Lockerbie. So where was all this “respect” we used to get 20 or 30 years ago?
As far as partnerships go, we have pretty much the same partnerships with the Muslims that we’ve always had. Still buds with the Saudis, still bribing the Egyptians not to attack Israel (thanks to that moron Carter), still pals with the Northern Alliance boys in Afghanistan. And, we’ve actually turned what used to be an implacable enemy (Iraq) into a new partner…no thanks to the jackass who we stupidly just elected POTUS. What partnerships with Muslim nations did we have 30 years ago that we don’t have now? None, as far as I can see.
About the only thing that’s really changed is is that Pal [spits] terrorists have given up killing Americans (unless they’re in Israel), and Al Qaida sprang up to take over the main terrorist role (unfortunately for the New Messiah, Al Qaida sprang up during the Perjurer-in-Chief’s reign, so he can’t blame it on George Bush).
What dream world is our Idiot-in-Chief living in?
Has to be the biggest dolt we’ve ever had as POTUS.
Sep 26, 2009 - 12:41 am 81. Now and Then:79 Smelt Run
Hey, remember when cars were really horses and buggies and sasparilla was frosty good and grammy’s pie sat on the window sill and you could smell it clear out in the barn?
Sep 26, 2009 - 7:11 am 82. Robert Garding:Great and “right on” post here. I could not have said this better myself.
-Robert-
Sep 26, 2009 - 5:11 pm 83. Gaffe Prices:Ever wonder what it would have been like if al Gore had been in the executive office in 2001? Be careful what you ask for,
Sep 27, 2009 - 8:04 pm 84. Chuck Pelto:as we might all be about to get the closet approximation,
only ten times worse.
Remember that it was al Gore who nixed what he believed to be “racial profiling” in airports prior to the attacks of 9/11. (way back in early 90’s)
None of that crew dressed up as old swedish grannies.
Many Muslim powers want things to remain quiet for the sake of B.O.
(as he is doing so much on their behalf domestically)
but there are many freelancers who see weakness and opportunutty, as evidenced in #64’s list of but three in the last week.
TO: Gaffe Prices, et al.
RE: Indeed
With Obama in there, it’s GOING to be 10 times worse. Especially since Iran apparently NOW has a missile that can hurl a nuclear device above the atmosphere and is NOW working on nuke bombs to set upon them.
Actually, more like 1,000,000 times worse.
Scenario:
Three Iranian cargo-container vessels sitting in international waters off the Atlantic, Pacific and Gulf coasts. Each carries one of those missiles with a nuke warhead in one of the containers.
At a given time, the containers open, the missiles rise on their erectors and are launched above the atmosphere of the US. There, they detonate cause three waves of EMP to wash over the nation.
No electricity or computers or pace-makers for anyone in the US, less those in hardened locations for the next five to ten years.
Think about it…..
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[If you think things are bad now...just wait til Obama fixes them.]
P.S. Iran and the Jewish hating Ara cannot pose a truly finals threat to Israel until AFTER the US is neutralized.
Sep 28, 2009 - 11:49 am