Hillary Clinton effectively parried opponents’ suggestions in last night’s Democratic presidential debate that she sounds like a Republican. But she got into a little trouble at the end on a question about drivers licenses for illegal immigrants.
** IRAN’S FOREIGN MINISTER, IN BAGHDAD, CALLS FOR MORE TALKS WITH U.S. In an move intriguing the day after Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, made a sudden trip to Tehran to meet with the top Iranian leadership, Iran’s foreign minister, Manoucher Mottaki, ventured to Baghdad for meetings with Iraq’s top leaders. While there, he called for renewed negotiations with the US.
What does it mean? Well, that’s always a dangerous question in these matters. What it could mean is that Russia, after giving its backing to Iran, is pushing Iran to be more forthcoming with the US on allowing inspections of its nuclear program and in dealing with the security situation in Iraq. The latter is certainly the way Iraqi leaders are playing it.
Or, it could be an attempt to muddy the waters. And it may be that some elements of the US government are so bent on Iran regime change, no matter how murky those scenarios might be, that they aren’t interested in this. In which case they may be dealing with the Russians, as well as terrorists around the world.
** OIL BREAKS $95 BARRIER FOR YET ANOTHER RECORD. Crude oil closed at another record price today, $95.24 per barrel. The latest move upward came on continuing insecurity around events in Iraq, Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan, as well as a decline in US inventories.
** CALIFORNIA CLIMATE CHANGE LAWSUIT DELAYED UNTIL NEXT WEEK. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and former Governor-turned-Attorney General Jerry Brown have decided to delay the filing of California’s promised lawsuit against the US Environmental Protection Agency until next week. California officials, notably Schwarzenegger, are still mostly focused on the Southern California fires and their aftermath, which includes a substantial federal role.
California is suing the Bush Administration because it has failed to grant the customary waiver under the Clean Air Act to implement the state’s landmark law to cut tailpipe emissions of greenhouse gases. The bill, authored by then Assemblywoman Fran Pavley of LA and signed into law by then Governor Gray Davis, was enacted in 2002
** NEW RECORD OIL PRICE. Crude oil went over $94 per barrel today on continued global insecurity and declines in US inventories.
** CLINTON DOMINATES THE FIRST HOUR AND FIFTY EIGHT MINUTES. Well, it just goes to show that you have to watch the entire movie. With two minutes to go last night, Hillary Clinton was in easy command of the latest Democratic presidential debate. John Edwards and, to a surprisingly lesser extent, Barack Obama, had taken some shots at the frontrunner but barely landed a blow. The most dangerous actors for the former first lady on the stage were the moderators, mainly Tim Russert. He asked her what she thought of New York Governor Elliot Spitzer’s move to grant drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. This, of course, is an issue we have great experience with here in California.
Seemingly taken off guard, Clinton seemed to say it seemed a good idea to her. The other candidates were asked if they all agreed. For a moment, it seemed they did. Then Chris Dodd, ironically one of the most liberal of all over the past few decades, piped up. No, he said, “driving is not a right, it’s a privilege.” Some would say it’s a necessity, of course.
Revivified, John Edwards said that he, too, was against the idea. And hit Clinton for seeming to say that she was for the idea and against it.
Actually, there are at least two versions of the Spitzer proposal. Which as NWN has reported, was quite unpopular, at least in the first iteration.
First the once high-flying former New York attorney general proposed full-on drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. This is a loser idea politically, as former Governor Gray Davis can attest. Then he came up with a complex tiered systems of licenses. Which advocates for illegal immigrants, and of course the New York Times, attacked as potential prelude to a crackdown on illegals carrying the lesser licenses.
Be that as it may, that plan flies politically, as Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who proposed his own variant of it a few years ago, knows. But Hillary seemed taken aback. Probably not a part of her extensive work-up for the debate.
Which gets into the question of whether or not she is too robo-pol for this. My guess is she is not, because she is not up against topflight competition.
** GANG RAPE CASE SETTLEMENT IN CASE CENTERING ON CARONA FRIEND’S SON. Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona says he is completely innocent of all the corruption charges brought againt him by the Bush Justice Department. But he won’t answer substantive questions, deferring to his lawyer. Meanwhile, he is staying on in his $200,000 a year job.
On Monday, the day before the federal charges against Carona were unsealed, a settlement in the civil suit surrounding the nasty gang rape case centering on the son of Carona’s rich benefactor and former assistant sheriff, Don Haidl, was announced. No details were available. One of the charges in the federal indictment is that Carona agreed to a get-out-of-jail free card for Haidl and his son.
** YET MORE FIELD POLL. The Field Poll of California voters continues to dribble out, with today’s installment for its subscribers — in the conventional journalism model, subscribed to by big daily newspapers and TV stations, this is assured inventory for many days — giving results on the term limits change initiative and the attempt by disgruntled casino tribes and the casino workers union to overturn deals struck by state government with other casino tribies.
The questions underlying this poll were first asked about three weeks ago, making the results more and more attenuated in this fast-paced society.
Support for the term limits change initiative — which would cut the total number of years allowed in the state Legislature from 14 to 12 but allow all those years to be served in one house — is down significantly. In August, at least in this poll, it was at 59%. Now it’s 49% to 31%.
The results are undoubtedly not helped by all the publicity about Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez’s practice of using campaign funds for extensive travel and gifts, including from the Louis Vuitton boutique in Paris. Of course, the people mostly criticizing him, conservative Republicans, haven’t a leg to stand on with their support for indicted Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona. But many California voters have come to the conclusion that the partisans of both persuasions are all jerks.
The casino tribe deals are backed by California voters, 52% to 35%.
The Madrid train bombings, shown here, were a great tragedy.
Today’s verdict was mixed.
** VERY MIXED VERDICTS IN MADRID JIHADIST BOMBINGS. A very mixed verdict today in the Madrid bombing trials. Most defendants were convicted, but mostly on lesser charges. But seven got off, including an accused ringleader.
The subway bombings in March 2004 killed nearly 200 and wounded another 1800. Coming a few days before the Spanish national elections, they led to one of Al Qaeda’s greatest victories: The downfall of the Spanish government that backed the invasion of Iraq. Spain quickly withdrew its troops in the aftermath.
Russia, now playing an intriguing role in the Iran crisis, just
test-fired an intercontinental ballistic missile.
** WHAT DID THE RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER TELL AHMADINEJAD YESTERDAY IN TEHRAN? That’s the question of the day. Russia has cleverly made itself a key pivot of the current face-off between America and Iran. Though many experts find this more theatrical than real, since US military options with regard to Iran are more limited than the enthusiasts think.
** SCHWARZENEGGER WEBCAST THIS MORNING ON SOCAL FIRE CRISIS. Following a meeting in LA at the Southern California Association of Governments with a host of officials — though not his old friend, indicted Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona — Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger will hold a live webcast briefing on the current state of the Southern California fire crisis at 10:15 AM.
** KATIE LEVINSON ON JOE BIDEN. Giuliani communications director Katie Levinson — who was Arnold Schwarzenegger’s campaign communications director in 2006 — on line-of-the-Democratic-debate man Joe Biden: “As the pundits work to figure out who won the debate tonight, it’s pretty clear Rudy Giuliani was the real winner. It is increasingly apparent Rudy is the one the Democrats are most worried about running against in the general election.
“Senator Biden’s comments were of particular interest. The good Senator is quite correct that there are many differences between Rudy and him. For starters, Rudy rarely reads prepared speeches and when he does he isn’t prone to ripping off the text from others. And, Senator Biden certainly falls in to the bucket of those on the stage tonight who have never had executive experience and have never run anything. Wait, I take that back, Senator Biden has never run anything but his mouth.
“Such a desperate attack from Senator Biden is to be expected considering I – Katie Levinson – have a better chance of becoming President than he does.”
Perhaps so, Katie. But then, I might just have a better chance than you of becoming president.
** 24/7 LIVE TV NEWS FEED FROM RUSSIA TODAY. Russia is fast re-emerging as one of the world’s great powers. Click here for a live TV news feed on your computer, bringing you English-language, jargon-free, fast-paced coverage of global and Russian news from the new Russia Today channel.
You probably already know about CNN International, BBC World, and Al Jazeera. Russia Today, which also features culture, entertainment, and sports, is based in Moscow and is owned and operated by the TV Novosti division of Russia’s state news agency, RIA Novosti.
While it’s quite foolish to expect to see, say, criticism of Vladimir Putin on Russia Today, the channel is very interesting nonetheless. The NWN live link to RT does not constitute an endorsement of the channel’s views. It’s presented as an otherwise unavailable new media window.
** TRACK GLOBAL AND U.S. ENERGY PRICES IN NEAR REAL TIME VIA BLOOMBERG ENERGY MARKET WATCH. Crude oil prices are back up over $ 93 per barrel, boosted by the ongoing situations in Iraq, Pakistan, and Iran.
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Ann:Let’s see the Flash Report spin away gang rape. What a bunch of weasels.
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:26 am Ann:Let’s see the Flash Report spin away gang rape. What a bunch of weasels.
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:26 am Jonas Blane:The bombing video is awesome. Is that cell phone footage?
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:35 am Jonas Blane:The bombing video is awesome. Is that cell phone footage?
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:35 am Len:Obama was a stiff last night.
Carona is an asshole like the Reeps who are around him.
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:48 am Len:Obama was a stiff last night.
Carona is an asshole like the Reeps who are around him.
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:48 am Ann:Jonny Flashman is still ignoring his boss’s federal indictment! lol
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:52 am Bill Bradley:Jon Fleischman has declined to comment.
However, NWN has his statement from last year on the innocence of Mike Carona on all charges.
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:56 am Bill Bradley:Let’s avoid that kind of language.
>Len :
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:56 am Bill Bradley:Obama was a stiff last night.
Carona is an asshole like the Reeps who are around him.
Oct 31, 2007 08:48 AM
Yes, that is cell phone footage.
>Jonas Blane :
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:57 am Capitol Boy:The bombing video is awesome. Is that cell phone footage?
Oct 31, 2007 08:35 AM
Gang rapes, pay-offs, weasel flacks? Can this story get any better for New West Notes?
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:10 am Capitol Boy:I am talking about the Sheriff Make Carona/right-wing Reps case.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:12 am Capitol Boy:I am talking about the Sheriff Make Carona/right-wing Reps case.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:12 am Bill Bradley:The Carona crew are small potatoes in politics. Which is not to say that there will not be extensive coverage.
I see that Jon Fleischman today wrote about a Halloween party …
Okey dokey.
Meanwhile the sheriff of Orange County is now in federal lockup.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:26 am Bill Bradley:… And by the way, there’s still not a word about this on the Drudge Report.
If the Democratic sheriff of one of the largest counties in the US was indicted by a Democratic Justice Dept. …
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:28 am NickM:Do I detect a little schadenfreude?
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:35 am NickM:Well, that link got messed up.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:37 am NickM:Ugh. Let me see if noob-style works.
http://www.nomorelyrics.net/song/143490.html
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:38 am Bill Bradley:Without knowing whatever it is you’re so coyly trying to say, preposterous is as preposterous does.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:39 am Bill Bradley:Without knowing whatever it is you’re so coyly trying to say, preposterous is as preposterous does.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:39 am richard locicero:Boy talk about sour grapes! I wrote elsewhere that I always have thought that Joe Biden was a man dearly in love with the sound of his own voice but after that zinger last night aimed at Rudy I’m surprised that his spokespeople would say anything. The last thing I’d want to do is give that remark more attention!
Re Carona. Along with Rudy this is a bad time to be “America’s” anything if you’re a local official!
Drudge didn’t mention it? I’m Shocked! Shocked!
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:43 am Ann:Let’s see Jonny Flashman’s statement about Carona’s innocence.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:51 am Bill Bradley:Who said: “We sell no wine before its time?”
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:58 am Bill Bradley:Yeah, not a super move …
>richard locicero :
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:59 am Bill Bradley:Boy talk about sour grapes! I wrote elsewhere that I always have thought that Joe Biden was a man dearly in love with the sound of his own voice but after that zinger last night aimed at Rudy I’m surprised that his spokespeople would say anything. The last thing I’d want to do is give that remark more attention!
Yeah, not a super move …
>richard locicero :
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:59 am NickM:Boy talk about sour grapes! I wrote elsewhere that I always have thought that Joe Biden was a man dearly in love with the sound of his own voice but after that zinger last night aimed at Rudy I’m surprised that his spokespeople would say anything. The last thing I’d want to do is give that remark more attention!
Bill, the link was supposed to be to the lyrics of the song Schadenfreude, from the play Avenue Q. I was trying to make a rhetorical question funnier by linking the key word to the song. For some reason, other material (the URL for today’s stories on NWN) keeps getting added into the html tag by PJM’s software, which renders it kludge.
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:00 am Bill Bradley:Apparently an old problem has resurfaced with yesterday’s shift to new servers.
Showing that, while the right wing (PJ Media) is more technically adept than the left wing (LA Weekly), fubar is still easily within reach.
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:05 am Chris M:Thanks for spotting and reporting the Madrid verdict.
A notable aspect of the post-event was the way in which Spainards got back to business as usual. Transit ridership suffered only a temporary blip and then returned to normal.
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:13 am Bill Bradley:Here, the airline industry is still recovering from 9/11.
The airline industry is recovering?
With the stuff I carry around, I have to use four or five trays to go through airport security.
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:23 am Ann:Where’s Schwarzeneger?
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:31 am Ann:Where’s Schwarzeneger?
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:31 am Bill Bradley:That question has become one of the banes of my existence.
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:33 am Anonymous:Until last night Hillary had been doing a surprisingly good job of dampening down my aversion to her robo-pol ways. She was almost starting to feel human and maybe even a smidge principled to me, and I’d noticed over a period of weeks that my own personal “No Effen Way” index was coming down some.
I thought Edwards and Obama did some real damage on that score last night. I know my own index jumped back up. I was jarringly reminded of what a calculating robot she is when her internal teleprompter broke down.
Looked to me like Obama’s strategy was to let Edwards do the heavy lifting on the negative, participate just enough to be on the right side of it and show some spine, but no more than needed, so as to preserve Nice Guy/Fresh Approach elements so essential to his candidacy.
Richardson’s definitely running for VP, but may have jumped a shark on the way to Roswell.
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:47 am Wilbur:oops, anonymous c’est moi. Must have dropped my cookie behind the console…
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:48 am Ann:Still no Schwarazeneger. What the F? lol
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:54 am Bill Bradley:As you might expect, I’ve gotten tired of calling to ask what’s up.
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:57 am Jonathan Hemlock:The Sheriff Carona indictments illustrate the obnoxious hypocrisy and stupidity of the Republican right.
Oct 31, 2007 - 11:10 am Jonathan Hemlock:The Sheriff Carona indictments illustrate the obnoxious hypocrisy and stupidity of the Republican right.
Oct 31, 2007 - 11:10 am Jonathan Hemlock:The Sheriff Carona indictments illustrate the obnoxious hypocrisy and stupidity of the Republican right.
Oct 31, 2007 - 11:10 am Elroy El:I admit I am borrowing this from another blog.
I’m starting to use Jon Fleischman as a barometer. Whenever he starts talking about a politico being his good friend and an honorable individual I’m almost assured a jail sentence is pending.
I’m thinking John Doolittle should start thinking about his plea arrangement.
Oct 31, 2007 - 11:12 am Jonathan Hemlock:Sorry for the double- posting.
Oct 31, 2007 - 11:12 am Hap Hazard:I am sorry but listening to Clinton is an utterly painful experience for me. Her voice has about the same shrillness, timbre and cadence of the one in that old Cheech and Chong skit (class, class, SHUT UP!).
Oct 31, 2007 - 12:03 pm Bill Bradley:Gosh, another Hillary phobe.
Oct 31, 2007 - 12:06 pm Elroy El:I’m not a Hillary phobe. But I have to say watching her trying to be funny is like listening to Montgomery Burns on open mike night.
I would like a presidential candidate that for once isn’t from the south. And Giuliani scares me if anyone thinks that’s what I’m implying.
Oct 31, 2007 - 12:11 pm Elroy El:I’m not a Hillary phobe. But I have to say watching her trying to be funny is like listening to Montgomery Burns on open mike night.
I would like a presidential candidate that for once isn’t from the south. And Giuliani scares me if anyone thinks that’s what I’m implying.
Oct 31, 2007 - 12:11 pm Bill Bradley:Isn’t Hillary from Chicago?
Oct 31, 2007 - 12:45 pm Elroy El:I’m only speculating. But something tells me Jon isn’t commenting about Carona because he might be worried about a pending legal matter. Fleischman worked outside Carona’s office and accompanied him on numerous occasions to events with Carona. I bet the Feds might be taking an interest in what he knows.
Just speculation of course. Jon might read this and have a milk through the nose moment. But he’s being awfully mum on the subject given his sycophantic defense of the man over the years.
Oct 31, 2007 - 12:46 pm Elroy El:She is Bill. But in my opinion she is identified with being from AR.
Oct 31, 2007 - 12:47 pm Ann:Jonny Flashman knew about Carona’s antics? Doh! lol
Oct 31, 2007 - 1:02 pm Chris M:Hillary is from the toney Chicago suburb of Lake Forest, but surely most would associate her with either New York or Washington. Perhaps the biggest knock against her is the “dynasty” argument. Do we want 36 straight years with a Bush or Clinton as Prez or Veep? Note: The Bee did a nice job the other day highlighting all the bloodlines in CA politics.
The Reeps are in trouble, but at this point the Dems seem likely to ask voters to elect either the first woman president (who has almost unprecedented negative ratings) or a guy whose unusual name ryhmes with that of America’s most wanted criminal. That’s quite a leap of faith.
Oct 31, 2007 - 1:33 pm Chris M:Hillary is from the toney Chicago suburb of Lake Forest, but surely most would associate her with either New York or Washington. Perhaps the biggest knock against her is the “dynasty” argument. Do we want 36 straight years with a Bush or Clinton as Prez or Veep? Note: The Bee did a nice job the other day highlighting all the bloodlines in CA politics.
The Reeps are in trouble, but at this point the Dems seem likely to ask voters to elect either the first woman president (who has almost unprecedented negative ratings) or a guy whose unusual name ryhmes with that of America’s most wanted criminal. That’s quite a leap of faith.
Oct 31, 2007 - 1:33 pm Bill Bradley:I like to think of it as … avant garde.
Oct 31, 2007 - 1:41 pm Dana:So why is Giuliani’s attack dog yipping at Joe Biden? Because he got off one zinger? Rudy’s people should be used to this one by now. Heck, months ago the Onion had an article that Giuliani was running to be President of 9/11. And Biden’s prospects are fading fast all on their own.
Is this a sign Rudy’s team is worried their guy beyond his harping on 9/11 related topics has nothing to offer? Why else expend energy on Mr. Biden, who is a second tier if not third tier candidate, and no threat?
Chris M.–after Bush 43 I think people might be a bit more open minded about who they’ll vote for as President as long as the candidate is competent. Hillary has the chops to do the job, whether or not you like her.
Oct 31, 2007 - 1:59 pm Wilbur:Biden’s attack on Giuliani was, for me, perhaps the best shot of the night. Giuliani had to shoot back, not because Biden’s a serious threat, but because Biden’s very effective message is. Giuliani is vulnerable on the hollowness and hypocrisy underlying what he plays as his greatest strength.
Oct 31, 2007 - 2:17 pm Hap Hazard:I am not afraid Hillary might win, but her election would certainly represent a new low in presidential charisma and entertainment value - even lower than the one she seems to be running against, “this Administration.”
In fact, she is probably the most middle of the road of all the candidates, right along with Guliani, but it just helps smooth the tenure if the President is someone average folks can warm up to, which in my estimation is not possible in her case.
Oct 31, 2007 - 2:19 pm Hap Hazard:I didn’t view Guliani’s move as a desperate one. I think his campaign wants the candidates to know that he will mix it up and be fully prepared to do battle if challenged, which of course is quite different from what has been largely the case so far at these forums.
Oct 31, 2007 - 2:23 pm Hap Hazard:Of course, Dana, you may be quite right… Perhaps Guliani’s folks read this:
Clinton would cream Giuliani, poll finds
Oct 31, 2007 - 2:35 pm Hap Hazard:Of course, Dana, you may be quite right… Perhaps Guliani’s folks read this:
Clinton would cream Giuliani, poll finds
Oct 31, 2007 - 2:35 pm Ann:Giuliani looks scared.
Oct 31, 2007 - 4:22 pm Dana:Won’t be long now until those pesky voters start weighing in, and the herd thins out PDQ. The top 2-3 candidates then may fight it out until a prrsumptive front runner locks it up. And then months until the convention of tedious status quo. Hurry up and wait a la Hollywood…
Oct 31, 2007 - 4:25 pm Vladimir Bierko:The Times has the Carona indictment story on the front page on Tuesday. The Register just didn’t have the story. That was interesting.
At least Rexroad posted about the situation on Flash’s site.
This story is going to get juicy. Perhaps juicier than the elected up North in Los Angeles.
Oct 31, 2007 - 4:26 pm Bill Bradley:Oh, I think this story has many more elements than the other one.
Oct 31, 2007 - 4:28 pm Bill Bradley:It’s going to be a long time for two candidates to be hanging out there.
>Dana :
Oct 31, 2007 - 4:29 pm Bill Bradley:Won’t be long now until those pesky voters start weighing in, and the herd thins out PDQ. The top 2-3 candidates then may fight it out until a prrsumptive front runner locks it up. And then months until the convention of tedious status quo. Hurry up and wait a la Hollywood…
Oct 31, 2007 04:25 PM
It’s going to be a long time for two candidates to be hanging out there.
>Dana :
Oct 31, 2007 - 4:29 pm Bill Bradley:Won’t be long now until those pesky voters start weighing in, and the herd thins out PDQ. The top 2-3 candidates then may fight it out until a prrsumptive front runner locks it up. And then months until the convention of tedious status quo. Hurry up and wait a la Hollywood…
Oct 31, 2007 04:25 PM
The most likable candidate seem among the most unlikely to win.
>Hap Hazard :
Oct 31, 2007 - 4:30 pm Ann:I am not afraid Hillary might win, but her election would certainly represent a new low in presidential charisma and entertainment value - even lower than the one she seems to be running against, “this Administration.”
In fact, she is probably the most middle of the road of all the candidates, right along with Guliani, but it just helps smooth the tenure if the President is someone average folks can warm up to, which in my estimation is not possible in her case.
Oct 31, 2007 02:19 PM
Giuliani isn’t very likeable.
Oct 31, 2007 - 5:07 pm Auros:Giuliani isn’t very likeable.
He’s about as likable as a barracuda.
I still don’t get how the guy who tried to get his mobbed-up corrupt buddy the job of Secretary of Homeland Security is supposed to be the Law And Order candidate (oh, wait, that’s Thompson).
BTW, if anyone’s interested in hearing America’s most forthright liberal pundit praising Arnold (not for being liberal like the Flash types claim, but for being a decent, consensus-seeking conservative), visit this page: http://www.kqed.org/forum
Download this morning’s interview with Krugman, and check around the 19 minute mark. Very interesting.
Oct 31, 2007 - 5:47 pm Bill Bradley:Interesting.
Oct 31, 2007 - 6:28 pm Bill Bradley:So, who did I decide to be for Halloween?
Bruce Wayne?
Or Doctor Who?
Oct 31, 2007 - 6:32 pm Bill Bradley:So, who did I decide to be for Halloween?
Bruce Wayne?
Or Doctor Who?
Oct 31, 2007 - 6:32 pm Hap Hazard:Bruce Wayne I would guess. The Batmobile, among other reasons…
Oct 31, 2007 - 6:36 pm Hap Hazard:most likable candidates seem among the most unlikely to win - - Sad but true commentary on what I think is the harshness of the times. Seems as though it used to be, back in the day, that character and personality mattered. Now it seems just to be about positioning and reading from the right script to stay on message all of the time. Thus we really never get to judge how someone might think or act in reaction to the situations conceivably presented, because there isn’t a really good way to judge character and personality. Another reason why I want to have the debates be mothballed, or changed dramatically to be actual debates closer to college debate team competitions.
Oct 31, 2007 - 6:43 pm Hap Hazard:Bruce Wayne: His British butler-sidekick fulfills the British influence, along with analogies to James Bond… Chicks dig him, he isn’t an alien, he lives in a reclusive locale, not too unlike the secret mountainous location from which NWN operated in earlier iterations… I would at this point be willing to wager against Dr. Who. . . Happy All Souls Day to all…G’Day.
Oct 31, 2007 - 6:56 pm carole w:Happy Halloween! Don’t eat too much candy:)
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:13 pm Ann:Don’t you get tired of dressing like Bruce Wayne?
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:13 pm Dana:Hap, the present President was sold on the basis of heaping handfuls of character and personality. But wasn’t up to the challenges of the job. He has been fired (although he doesn’t know it) and most of us are now serching for a competent replacement. Get w/the times, man!
Easy: Bruce Wayne–because it is an easy part to play. Get a suit and wear a slightly bored, playboy expression. With eyes hinting at a secret other self lurking…
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:35 pm Dana:Hap, the present President was sold on the basis of heaping handfuls of character and personality. But wasn’t up to the challenges of the job. He has been fired (although he doesn’t know it) and most of us are now serching for a competent replacement. Get w/the times, man!
Easy: Bruce Wayne–because it is an easy part to play. Get a suit and wear a slightly bored, playboy expression. With eyes hinting at a secret other self lurking…
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:35 pm Jack Aubrey:Doesn’t “Bruce Wayne” mean you were some fancy Euro suit?
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:38 pm Jack Aubrey:I meant “wear.”
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:38 pm richard locicero:A NY state poll shows only 23% approve of licenses for illegals. A CNN poll shows a 22% approval rate nationally. So maybe there’s a reason the frontrunner flubbed it.
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:53 pm Bill Bradley:What kind of candy?
Oct 31, 2007 - 7:54 pm Bill Bradley:Richard, why don;t you forward those polls to our friend Marc Cooper, who used to give me a very bad time for pointing out that very kind of thing?
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:05 pm Bill Bradley:Richard, why don;t you forward those polls to our friend Marc Cooper, who used to give me a very bad time for pointing out that very kind of thing?
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:05 pm carole w:Candy:
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:38 pm Len:You know what type of sweets:)
Dress up as a Firefighter, you will get all the attention. You know the Man in a uniform thing.
Doctor Who. He’s cool and has the power.
Oct 31, 2007 - 8:39 pm Bill Bradley:Hey, enough with the firefighter fetish. The ABC characters ran that into the ground in 20005.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:11 pm carole w:Okay, then. How about Zorro? A super hero with a secret identity.
I watched Georgia Rule last night. I loved Jane Fonda’s character.
Oct 31, 2007 - 9:43 pm Bill Bradley:Actually, I might be Russell Hammond …
Oct 31, 2007 - 10:47 pm Hap Hazard:Dana - Thanks for the suggestion. Do you think that Kerry was up to the job, or with the times?
Oct 31, 2007 - 11:37 pm Hap Hazard:Dana - Thanks for the suggestion. Do you think that Kerry was up to the job, or with the times?
Oct 31, 2007 - 11:37 pm Jonas Blane:What’s on today?
Nov 1, 2007 - 5:59 am carole w:Russell Hammond:
Nov 1, 2007 - 8:47 am Bill Bradley:Good choice. The actor that played Hammond is very good looking.
I was kidding about that.
Nov 1, 2007 - 10:12 am Bill Bradley:Going as Bruce Wayne is an old joke, one that some have found annoying.
>Dana :
Nov 1, 2007 - 10:15 am Bill Bradley:Easy: Bruce Wayne–because it is an easy part to play. Get a suit and wear a slightly bored, playboy expression. With eyes hinting at a secret other self lurking…
Oct 31, 2007 07:35 PM
I went with the Doctor.
Since I’ve run the Bruce Wayne gag into the ground.
>Hap Hazard :
Nov 1, 2007 - 10:16 am Bill Bradley:Bruce Wayne: His British butler-sidekick fulfills the British influence, along with analogies to James Bond… Chicks dig him, he isn’t an alien, he lives in a reclusive locale, not too unlike the secret mountainous location from which NWN operated in earlier iterations… I would at this point be willing to wager against Dr. Who. . . Happy All Souls Day to all…G’Day.
Oct 31, 2007 06:56 PM
I went with the Doctor.
Since I’ve run the Bruce Wayne gag into the ground.
>Hap Hazard :
Nov 1, 2007 - 10:16 am Bill Bradley:Bruce Wayne: His British butler-sidekick fulfills the British influence, along with analogies to James Bond… Chicks dig him, he isn’t an alien, he lives in a reclusive locale, not too unlike the secret mountainous location from which NWN operated in earlier iterations… I would at this point be willing to wager against Dr. Who. . . Happy All Souls Day to all…G’Day.
Oct 31, 2007 06:56 PM
I know … Not as good as the Arnold pot-smoking video.
>Jonas Blane :
Nov 1, 2007 - 10:18 am Bill Bradley:What’s on today?
Nov 1, 2007 05:59 AM
Incidentally, NWN passed 43,000 comments sometime in the past week.
Nov 5, 2007 - 10:28 am