A Moment of Opportunity for the New Media
As budget cuts increasingly turn old media organs into fish wrap, the alternative media must be ready to take advantage.
Big Media is taking a big hit during this global economic avalanche. As New York Times reporter Richard Perez-Pena noted in the October 23, 2008, paper of record, “The New York Times Company reported a 51.4 percent decline in third-quarter profit on Thursday and swung to a loss on continuing operations as deeper-than-expected expense cuts could not keep pace with falling revenue.”
After the release of the earnings report, Standard & Poor’s lowered the Times Company’s credit rating below investment grade, a move that would increase borrowing costs. Moody’s Investors Service said it was considering doing the same. Several newspaper companies have been lowered to junk status.
This isn’t entirely due to the current economic crisis in the U.S. The mainstream media, especially newspapers, have been declining solidly in readership and revenues for a quarter of a century. The industry is withering or, perhaps more appropriated viewed, it’s morphing. News is still in demand; but relative monopolies have been shattered and the power of the elites to set the topics and tones of discussions is ever more diluted. The rise of the internet has so changed the nature of news delivery that most of the big papers are shriveling.
Big Media has already partially forfeited the status it once held. As it continues its decline there will be some truly negative ramifications for all of us who value knowing what’s going on in remote places where American interests and lives are on the line. Serious, ongoing coverage of complicated situations like those in Iraq and Afghanistan is something that requires the resources and first-rate personnel that only well-financed, established institutions like the New York Times can provide.
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Michael Yon, author of Moment of Truth in Iraq: How a New 'Greatest Generation' of American Soldiers Is Turning Defeat and Disaster into Victory and Hope, spent more time embedded with U.S. and British combat troops in Iraq than any other correspondent. Michael Yon has changed his focus to Afghanistan.
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1. fear Obama?:One Word.
AMEN.
Oct 30, 2008 - 9:31 am 2. BackwardsBoy:Michael, your stellar work in covering the events in the Mideast is the standard that the New Media will strive to emulate.
Oct 30, 2008 - 9:45 am 3. TomJW:The biggest reason for the decline in the MSM, IMHO, is the lack of objectivity in covering the news. Folks of every stripe are tired of the overt opinionating that passes for coverage of important stories. Instead of the tried and true standards of “who, what, when, where”, now all we get is “this is my not-so-thinly-veiled opinion”, most of it skewed heavily against common sense. Witness the total lack of coverage in this election of the questionable associates that Obama has willfully chosen to surround homself with versus the front page news of Palin’s wardrobe.
When the majority of the MSM gleefully chooses to alienate half of its audience, they suffer the well deserved loss of revenue. As once-infuential stalwarts of accurate public information sink in a sea of red ink, I say, “Good riddance, you did this to yourselves.”
What’s the point of a NYT reporters in Afganistan when the editors will only lie about the information they send them? I would rather I have to dig for information resembling the truth then have half the country lied to on situations that are obscure, but still important.
I can’t wait for the bankruptcy of the MSM. Sadly, the network stations get to live off their profitable shows, they probably won’t collapse until after europe does.
Oct 30, 2008 - 9:57 am 4. Jeff Tyler:I coudn’t agree more. In its zeal to promote Obama MSM has signed its own death warrant–at least for many concious Americans, who will increase a reader base of alternative media and bring in more readers through their own connection.
I’m hardly a pundit, but there’s something about the power of altenative media when you get tens of replies like this to a post about the true nature of this election:
Oct 30, 2008 - 9:58 am 5. sunshine2:Thank goodness others see the danger to our country under an Obama administration. If only the MSM would wake up and really report the truth instead of just repeating what their corporate leaders tell them to say. But then, if they did they would be out of a job. I feel that most of the so-called reporters actually believe the garbage they feed us each day
My post was about the fact that it’s no longer about GOP vs. Dems
http://drslogan.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/nov-4-your-county-your-call/
So sad. They went over budget interviewing mushers in Alaska and did not have money for a ticket to Kenya to glance at birth certificates and then the same to Hawaaii. I do not want all major media to die because bloggers do NOT travel to gather news.
Oct 30, 2008 - 10:00 am 6. Marc Malone:Part of it is the liberal bias in the media, to be sure. It alienates half of the market. However, that’s only part of the tale. The fact that they have this tabloid mentality doesn’t help. “If it bleeds, it leads.” Still, in a liberal major city like NY, the NYT shold be able to sell enough papers to make good, but they don’t. Why not?
It requires a new business model. Personally, I think that when a paper makes itself available online, it is competing against itself. Why buy the cow, when you can have the milk for free? The music industry went through a transition period once people were able to share the music. Why buy CD’s, when you can get it free from the ‘Net?
I could be wrong. Not an area I’ve really concentrated on, but I see the trends. A new business model is certainly needed. I think they simply have not tried ro develop one. This is an opportunity for someone, for sure.
Oct 30, 2008 - 10:18 am 7. Moment of Opportunity for New Media or New Government? : The New Nixon: News and Commentary about the President, his Times, and his Legacy:[...] Yon is being supported by Pajamas Media to report from the War Zone in Afghanistan. Yon call this a moment of opportunity for the new media to take the lead: The New York Times employs courageous and outstanding reporters [...]
Oct 30, 2008 - 10:56 am 8. Sandra:There was a time when reporters didn’t even get bylines. Now, the reporters themselves, are the focus of their own stories…”How I feel about it….what I think about it…what you should think about it.” Wouldn’t it be wonderful to find a newspaper, lacking in celebrity writers, that would put forth the facts - who, what, where, when - and let readers develop their own conclusions. This election has been a high point for celebrity journalists, who have abandoned any pretense of objectivity in order to step into the parade, join the chorus singing praises to The One who has promised the waters will recede, the earth will begin to heal and peace will reign when he takes his rightful place on the throne. Can’t you just feel that tingle running up your leg? Doesn’t it just make your eyes well up with tears? Oh, that’s right. We’re talking about the PRESS. That’s how THEY feel about this election.
Oct 30, 2008 - 11:07 am 9. kevin c:michael-i beleive you are right,but missing on onething-THE REASON THE OLD MEDIA IS SO IN THE TANK FOR THE COMMIE OBAMI IS NOT ONLY IDEOLOGICAL. ITS ALSO TO GET A LEFT WING CONGRESS TO IMPLEMENT THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE. LETS NOT FORGET-WHEN THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE WAS IMPOSED IN THE LATE 1940S,THE DEMON RATS ENDED UP RUNNING CONGRESS FOR 40 YEARS. IT ALSO LEFT AMERICA WITH ONLY 3 BLATANTLY LEFTIST NETWORKS AND A HANDFUL OF BLATANTLY LEFTIST NEWSPAPERS AND NEWS MAGAZINES. THE END OF THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE IN 1987 COINCIDED WITH THE RISE OF AM TALK RADIO UNDER RUSH LIMBAUGH AND THE RISE OF FOX NEWS IN 1997 AND EVENTUALLY INTERNER SITES SUCH AS THIS ONE. THE ODL MEDIA WANTS A RETURN TO THE OLD COMMIE DAYS AND TO DESTROY TALK RADIO AND THE INTERNET. SO THEY ARE IN THE TANK FOR THE CLOSEST THING WEVE EVER HAD TO A COMMUNIST RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. WE LOST VIETNAM BECAUSE OF OUR OWEN MEDIA SYMPATHIZING WITH A COMMIE GOVERNMENT,LEADING TO OVER 4 MILLION DEAD IN CAMOBIDA AND THE REST OF SE ASIA. BILL AYERS HAS ALREADY TOLD LARRY GRUNWOL HED KILL 25-30 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT COMMUNISM IN THE USA AND THAT WAS 40 YRS AGO. AND OBAMI COMMIE IS AN ADMIRER OF AYERS. I SHUDDER AT THE THOUGHT.
Oct 30, 2008 - 11:21 am 10. TomJW:kevin c, keep an eye on your typing. When you accidently hit the ‘Caps Lock’, you should turn it off and retype. I won’t bother to read you otherwise.
Oct 30, 2008 - 12:19 pm 11. dan:so what exactly is it with afghanistan/pakistan? is it more complicated than the 30 million warlike wazirs/masuds & etc., the opium trade, and the venality of warlords?
i have always viewed iraq and afganistan as examples of the part of the world that has been last to accomodate itself in some way to the norms of post-war global intercourse - a feat that even Russia has achieved to a degree unmatched in all the islamic world, excepting southeast asia.
i have to believe the pakistani ruling feudals, whether of land or institutions like the military, understand it is only to their personal benefit to figure out how to contol their ancient infestation. is their desire to use the talibs & co. as a weapon with which to incorporate afghanistan really stronger than their desire to stabilize pakistan, if only to loot a bigger trove?
i mean, what exactly is going on there? i appreciate your opinions, mr. yon, but the most striking thing about media coverage of both iraq and afghanistan - to take only the two most obvious examples - is how we are never informed as to the character and tendencies of the people who live there, their habits, their histories, & etc. in my opinion, this is a gaping hole; obviously this has everything to do with why these people cannot seem to get it together - even to their own satisfaction, whatever it may be. instead we get retorts like “what do you mean *these people*!?” and “there is no monolithic [islam, arab, etc.]!” and all the rest.
FINE. these adolescent rhetorical questions are apparently satisfying as end-points for many, many minds. but it strikes me that if we can not see who we’re dealing with we cannot hope to come to some reasonable national appraisal of the problem and enough political will to reach a conclusion. so please, let’s have it un-sugar-coated. you would be one of the men who could enlighten us in this manner.
Oct 30, 2008 - 12:21 pm 12. Will Sharpe:kevin c,
I’m pretty sure Vietnam was not lost because of our news media; certainly, Cronkite reading the names of the dead and updating the running death tolls had a profound effect on viewers, but it’s difficult for me to interpret that as the sole reason we lost Vietnam.
Oct 30, 2008 - 1:44 pm 13. NahnCee:OJ trial in Vegas - hardly any media coverage. Certainly nothing on the 6:00 news about it, nor anything on the front page of the newspaper.
Phil Specter murder trial starting this week. Again, hardly any coverage.
I think MSM simply can’t afford to send either newspaper or TV reporters to off-site events any more, and unless the paparrazzi are there to take pictures like they did in running Britney Spears into a breakdown we won’t be hearing these sorts of stories any more. That’s probably not a bad thing, since when the first OJ trial was massively covered it resulted in the biggest boondoggle of justice in the history of the United States.
Oct 30, 2008 - 1:50 pm 14. rocketeer:Old media is dieing and I for one couldn’t be happier to see it go. They have completely abandoned any premise of fairness and objectivity. Everyone knows this, despite their flimsy objections. The big three, and some of the major papers have really just become the defacto public relations arm of the DNC. Well, half of their potential client base has given them the middle finger. Unfortunately for them, that represents the majority of the population that reads or cares about watching the news, so their market shares are shrinking rapidly.
Oct 30, 2008 - 2:21 pm 15. Ramp Rat:MICHAEL:
I REMEMBER AWHILE BACK HUGH HEWITT, A MAN WHOSE OPINION I RESPECT INDICATED IN A COMMENT TO A CALLER THAT THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE CANNOT COME BACK. I CERTAINLY HOPE HE IS CORRECT, OTHERWISE I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO READ YOU.
Oct 30, 2008 - 2:37 pm 16. cfbleachers:It isn’t much, but it’s a start. At least these folks got off the couch and did something.
http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275008.html#more
Oct 30, 2008 - 2:46 pm 17. JED:Truth in labeling might help. Like the many blogs, one knows the general opinion of the site and can measure their own opinion from that. If the MSM i.e. news anchors, would just stick election pins on their shirts instead of pretending to be objectively reporting, then the hypocracy would be better contained. For newspapers to editorialize storys on page one, maybe they could color code yellow highliner on every opinion in every paragraph. That would bring back the old yellow journalism. Going broke seems fair in the one way propaganda machine.
Oct 30, 2008 - 2:47 pm 18. tim maguire:I am surprised you still feel so strongly about the importance of the major news outlets considering that the best coverage of these hot spots has been coming from you and Michael Totten, supported by their readers instead of a large editorial staff.
I also think you mis-diagnose the problem by even mentioning the current financial crisis. The media has been the author of its own decline, excellerated by the internet and its own exerable war and campaign coverage. It’s been too long coming to blame on mortgage foreclosures.
That said, congratulations and thank you for all the great work you do. I think the age of the giant media operation is coming to a close. Now is too soon, but thanks to you and others like you, within a decade they will not be missed.
Oct 30, 2008 - 2:52 pm 19. Pete F.:Hello all -
Kevin C. wrote,
“I’m pretty sure Vietnam was not lost because of our news media; certainly, Cronkite reading the names of the dead and updating the running death tolls had a profound effect on viewers, but it’s difficult for me to interpret that as the sole reason we lost Vietnam.”
Au contraire, my good man…
General General Võ Nguyên Giáp, the senior Vietnamese strategist of the Vietnam War, was asked many times after the war, how was it that his nation lost all the major battles/campaigns but still won the war. He replied words to the effect, it does not matter, it is irrelevent that we lost the battles, our objective was the will of the American people to fight the war. The Vietnamese and communists exploited our media masterfully, for proof see what they did with “Hanoi” Jane Fonda or others like her.
After the Tet Offensive, during which the Viet Cong were destroyed as an effective fighting force, and the North Vietnamese regular army sustained tremendous losses and were repulsed by US forces, Walter Cronkite went on his nightly news program, and declared to the American people that the war was lost. President Johnson later admitted that if he’d lost Cronkite, he’d lost the nation. At that point, the NV knew they simply had to hang on long enough to outlast us, and they’d win their objectives.
Bottom Line: Our forces in field had the war won, but the public will to continue the war was broken.
As our jihadist enemies have repeatedly demonstrated, propaganda and manipulation of the mass media is a weapon every bit as potent as those on the battlefield. In fact, a group of military thinkers have, since the 1980s, coined a new term for this sort of war, forth-generation warfare. 4GW uses not only guns, cannon, tanks and aircraft, and troops to fire them; it uses as weapons things like the media, money, progaganda, population movements/immigration, etc.
The bad news is that nations like our own and many others have a very poor record of waging and winning 4G wars. For more, see “Defense and the National Interest” > link to 4GW and Colonel John Boyd.
Cronkite did not lose Vietnam alone, but the media were a major reason whay we lost.
That’s all for now…
Oct 30, 2008 - 4:02 pm 20. Martge:I suppose the people are tired of all obama all the time. And celeb, celeb , celeb, run a way bride, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears.
Seems to me a newspaper should tell the news. Not who kissed obama butt today and celeb gossip.
Oct 30, 2008 - 4:51 pm 21. angry white dude:I wrote about this on my page last week. If anyone hasn’t seen the light on the media’s bias during this election cycle, they are dumb enough to be a Democrat! Here’s a link:http://angrywhitedude.com/?p=458
Oct 30, 2008 - 9:02 pm 22. dragonfly:All reasonable people must be concerned at the turn newspapers and television networks have taken in the past two decades, bringing us to the point where 90% of the reporting, whether of publics affairs, international developments, business, finance, sports, culture, or recreation is colored by a socialist bias. The campaign team for the Democrats is overtly preventing the publication of important information which it believes reflects negatively on its candidate and harassing individuals, like Joe the Plumber, who ask simple questions which elicit an unfortunate response from that candidate.
The Orwellian,fascist conotation raises the hair on one’s neck, They are not even elected and they’re in a Castro mode?!!
I am sympathetic with Michael’s vision, that of a courageous, independent minded journalist in the traditional mould. But the marxist lackeys of the NYT will just move to Neo-socialist equivalents of PJM, and the serfs will only tune in to them, while the new Commissariat hassles and prosecutes all conservative media.
The web and the blogosphere may cause the demise of old-time press and broadcasters, but the evil hand of the Ayers, Wrights, Chomskys, and Obamas will brook no competition. Observe what has happened right next door, in Canada. Pierre Trudeau, a charsmatic, came to power as a Liberal (terally) and within a decade the counry was socialist, with a constttion that includes no protection for freedom of speech.
We have good reason to fear Barack Obama. Haven’t you noticed ..he’s a SOCIALIST -in the Hugo Chavez/Bill Ayers mould.
Oct 30, 2008 - 11:33 pm 23. Clausewitz:I remember the first time I saw the movie ‘Network’ back in the 70’s. I thought, Novel concept but a little too farfetched for my likeing.
What did it predicte? Opinion being passed as news, Extreme Leftwing Bias, the abandobment of the older Demographic in the name of being cool and profits, and lets not forget the first time the idea of preformatted reality TV was shown.
I showed the film to my class, (minus the Faye Dunaway bareass scenes), and all they thought was, “Yeah, just like most of the stuff we watch today”.
Really, I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore.
Oct 31, 2008 - 12:03 am 24. SirRobert:We are all used to getting our information for ‘free’. Michael Yon is self funded and does not have a large corporate or advertising backing. If you appreciate his work, please help him out with a donation at his web site. http://www.michaelyon-online.com/
That goes for other new media information sources as well. Try to make sure that the sources of information that you now rely upon are fiscally sound to be around in the future. As the old media collapses in it’s own irrelevancy, there will be a vacuum to fill and we need to prop up the thoughtful and articulate next generation.
Oct 31, 2008 - 5:59 am 25. Wellspring:New media will certainly have to improve its reporting. I have no doubt that the functions of the MSM reporters will eventually be duplicated, though the way that those services are fulfilled might involve different people or processes. And we in the new media definitely could definitely do a lot to shorten the time to implement it.
Another area where we’re lacking is in background, contextual material. We felt this most strongly during the financial crisis. I still suspect that the MSM reporters don’t actually understand what happened or why, but they have a stable of experts at the ready who can quickly develop a briefing that catches people up on the situation so far.
Oct 31, 2008 - 5:59 am 26. FlyOver:Today in a Washington Times editorial: “Single-party rule is inherently totalitarian whether the people consent to it or not. In most cases, one-party states rise out of authoritarian regimes, including former monarchies, or socialist revolutions. There are currently seven - China, Cuba, Eritrea, Laos, Vietnam, Syria, Korea. The United States would become the eighth.” Kinda looks like some media are kicking off the shackles…
Oct 31, 2008 - 9:07 am 27. A Warning and an Invitation from Michael Yon « Buttle’s World:[...] Warning and an Invitation from Michael Yon Filed under: Posts — buttle @ 9:04 Is the New Media ready to step up to the plate? But just as my 2006 pieces on Afghanistan explicitly warned that chaos was [...]
Oct 31, 2008 - 10:04 am 28. The Historian:LAST GASP OF THE DYING BIASED MEDIA
This will be election that lives in big biased media infamy, as noted here:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/last-gasp-of-dying-biased-media.html
Oct 31, 2008 - 10:09 am 29. Sandra M:I have seldom experienced schadenfreude in my life but the only thing that would please me more than seeing biased left-wing newspapers and TV networks fail would be seeing our oil-rich enemies become poor because of our energy independence (contingent on McCain-Palin winning the election).
Today, I can read reporters for English or Australian newspapers covering stories here in the U.S. Competition is greater than ever, but one great column (Gerard Baker satirizing the Obamamessiah) can make you an instant star world-wide.
I read the best of the IBD, WSJ, etc. and a select number of columnists whose wisdom I trust.
And I have to ask: if Obama is doing so well, why are the media that support him doing so badly? Oh! That’s right. “Reading’s a “white” thing.”
I don’t think his coalition is big enough to win. Already, young people who do surf the web seem to have cooled on him.
If I’m wrong, I will merely redouble my efforts in 2010. Most important, finding a superb Republican challenger to oppose Sen. Chris Dodd’s re-election.
Oct 31, 2008 - 11:10 am 30. Gloria:The concensus of responses to this post indicate that the “Old” media are committing suicide. My own take is similar: why support non-objective, propagandistic, yellowsheet rags?
I’m not rich, even close to it. I am a reader by nature and training (addicted to print, one might say), but I prefer media which makes a stab at being fair and balanced. The NYT doesn’t qualify.
Oct 31, 2008 - 7:09 pm 31. Mainstream Media’s Decline Lets New Media Step Up at Yield to Pedestrian: Stroll With Me Through the Universe:[...] first article by Michael Yon, examines the last gasps of the mainstream media business model and then urges [...]
Oct 31, 2008 - 10:13 pm 32. Clausewitz:From Gloria
“The concensus of responses to this post indicate that the “Old” media are committing suicide. My own take is similar: why support non-objective, propagandistic, yellowsheet rags?”
Naw the body of the press has been dead for years. It’s just that know the bloated head in the basket may finally clse it’s blovating mouth while we all bid it a fond adieau.
Oct 31, 2008 - 11:47 pm 33. Carol:What may happen in the US is what has happened in the UK.
For example, the Guardian newspaper has survived despite running on a multi million pound deficit for years, leeching profits from the other companies owned by the Guardian Media Group. Another? The BBC gets four billion pounds from the taxpayer from a yearly direct tax called the license fee which is brutally enforced with Orwellian tactics.
Bottom line - some US newspapers and broadcasters will become propaganda outlets with no need to make a profit or address audience outrage over their coverage. Shareholders who don’t care about a junk rating will be the same as the complacent members of the Scott Trust.
Oh wait, did I say what MAY happen?
Nov 1, 2008 - 3:23 am 34. Marc Malone:Carol - Even that model you predict is unsustainable. GE owns NBC, MSNBC, Time, and Newsweek. Maybe others. GE’s credit rating has been downgraded. They are no longer a fortune 500 company. I understand print failure, as there are other factors. However, the TV operations are shedding viewership, especially the far-left MSNBC. Foxnews is beating them and CNN combined.
Actually, print failure shouldn’t happen. These outfits have physical resources that blogsites do not. They have the opportunity to write things that others do not. They need a commitment to better jounalism, with new emphasis. No more, “If it bleeds, it leads.”
Blogsites could have the same thing, though. If they affiliate with each other, and set up an easy donation system, they could have a virtual paper. People all over could donate whenever they see a great article. Instant feedback. If a story is so good that it goes viral, instant wealth. This could provide the physical tools to supplant the MSM.
Subscriptions would work well with this model, too. Various articles would automatically arrange on the site according to your established tastes. Occasionally, off-site material would also find its way to you, instead of you having to search. The subscriptions would be shared out based on subscriber votes for articles, even for unaffiliated articles. Pro and con articles could be solicited from bloggers by the virtual newspaper, providing balance.
The effect of all this would be to employ good writers. If their stuff doesn’t sell, they will not get paid. Instant feedback, painfully administered. I could go on and on, because my mind is like that with ideas, so I had better stop, now.
Nov 1, 2008 - 1:34 pm 35. jaimeshawn:The MSM economic bankruptcy is following years of ethical bankruptcy. NYT and ABC stink and don’t deserve the market-share they have now. It hurts your credibility, when you lavish praise on their shoddy reporting.
If you actually wanted _serious_ and _excellent_ coverage of Iraq, you would have been reading Michael Totten and not the third-rate MSM propaganda.
Nov 2, 2008 - 10:49 am 36. ALD:I’m perfectly fine with letting the NYT, MSM, ABC, CBS, fail and die a natural death. It’s a cycle of life, others will replace them with better service to readers. The fact that they are dying is because readership does not support what their product delivers: untruthful twisting of the facts, and blatant omissions of the facts. I just hope they die quickly before the Fairness Doctrine comes to save them.
Nov 2, 2008 - 12:14 pm 37. Big Red:pete f. you hit the nail on the head. Giap knew if the U.S. got in the war, he would lose. And it was not a civil war, but a direct invasion of the South.Giap used a classic strategy of a smaller force outlasting a larger, better armed force, fight small battles and run away. This was used by Washington in our revolution. George knew ther was no way his “army” of 18 year old kids and 50 year old veterans of the French and Indian War were not going to beat the best army in the world in open battle. The war had to be won in London, not america. As giap said, “we didn’t have to win, just still be here when they left.” Tet was a masterful move, put all you have on the table for one roll of the dice. H e knew he would lose the roll, but it would sap American will to win. He lost about 45,000 men in Tet, almost our losses for the entire war, but it got us into peace talks and looking for a way out. The Jihadists of the present day have said they have studied Giap and know how to beat America. Leaving Iraq to fester would be letting the cancer of jihad grow. Remember, Al Zaqawi was a Jordanian looking to use Irag as a base to attack Jordan.
Nov 2, 2008 - 6:57 pm 38. Big Red:Sorry. Meant Washington knew there was no way continental army could beat british in open combat. Shouldn’t try to type and talk to wife at same time
Nov 2, 2008 - 7:21 pm 39. mickey tremmel:i have just nominated whoopi goldberg for president of the united states and if this was aired on radio and tv the amount of people that wouldvote for whoopie witch would chain the electorial vote and would make a differencon who woul become as president?
Nov 4, 2008 - 11:55 am 40. Bert:The MSM has become a dinosaur cheerleader for the Democratic party. They are no longer journalists. The internet news sources will crush them even more now. If Obama gets behind “The Faiirness Doctrine” as a payback to the MSM, it will be a bloody battle. He will become a one termer and the Dems will get swept out of their majority in the mid terms. America will not stand by and watch this happen.
Nov 5, 2008 - 6:30 pm