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1. ashok:

Thanks for the review! I’ve been kinda avoiding this at bookstores, but since you say that his experiences are worth a look, I’ll definitely consider this.

I’m curious to hear what you think will alleviate the problem not just of media bias, but dealing with these “oh-so-enlightened” liberals that cannot even stand to hear a different viewpoint. My own thought is that nothing less than the GOP explicitly making this an issue – that liberals aren’t simply elitist, but closed-minded in a way that hurts our civic discourse – will do the trick. You kinda do need an institution to change the culture, and the media and academia are off limits to conservatives.

For more (yeah, I’ve dropped this link here before, but it explains the idea): “An Open Letter to Sarah Palin”

Jul 22, 2009 - 12:58 am 2. kasper:

I too, look forward to reading Stein’s book.

But, I have to disagree there is would be something wrong in Stein’s “skewering academics for force-feeding their beliefs onto children, the author applauds one teacher for doing the same with conservative talking points.”

Academia has a strangle hold on critical-thinking –it doesn’t allow it. Somehow that code has to be cracked. Equal push-back by using their own perverse system of redefining words and reframing issues might start waking up what’s left of young brains.

Jul 22, 2009 - 4:33 am 3. Cato:

The remarkable thing is that anyone is surprised by this. Oh, it has gotten a bit worse over the past 15-20 years, but the fundamental mentality, that only those on the left are fully human has been around at least since the Bolshevik Revolution.

Leftist-turned-conservative James Burnham, wrote about the phenomenon in his 1964 Suicide of the West: an Essay on the Meaning and Destiny of Liberalism (New Rochelle NY 1964), listing some 39 premises that he argues most liberal believe are so self-evidently correct that “all normal and reasonable persons nowadays agree with them; that they express no more than the ‘universal modern consensus,’ or something of that sort.” (p.43) (Curiously, the list today would differ somewhat). Burnham calls liberalism a “syndrome” or an ideology and dissects it masterfully.

Burnham’s work (including his pre-conversion The Managerial Revolution, which contained most of the useful ideas later made famous by John Kenneth Galbraith in The New Industrial State) deserves far more attention than it receives. His Suicide of the West especially is worth reading today.

Jul 22, 2009 - 5:05 am 4. Alex Bensky:

The main reason for this, I think, is that for many (not, by any means, all) people on the left, politics is much more than politics. It is in effect a form of psychodrama, a chance to display one’s moral virtue, righteousness, and superiority. Thus political stances become a key part of one’s view of oneself and to differ from them is an attack in a way that an ordinary political disagreement would not be.

I have a couple of points that I think illuminate this. In the past couple of years the NY Times and a couple of other sources have had stories about friendships breaking up over politics. Now, these stories were not intended as sociological studies but what struck me is that none of them relate conservatives who ended friendships with liberals. It was always the other way around. This, I think, supports the theory that a political disagreement is interpreted as an attack on one’s soul, one’s character.

The other, and I’m serious about this, is bumper stickers. Everyone reading this has seen from time to time cars whose rears are plastered with as many stickers as will fit on.

One or two bumper stickers may be other-directed; you want to promote a candidate, show support for your favorite team, or even offer to the world one of those supposedly clever sayings. (Now that Tiger Stadium has been completely demolished and the site is yet another vacant lot in Detroit, I am thinking seriously of taking the “Save Tiger Stadium” sticker off my car.)

But no one covers the back of his car with stickers to promote anything. The only conceivable purpose is to show that the car’s owner is a person of good opinions, on the side of the angels, a person of demonstrably high moral superiority.

And how often have you seen that sort of display with right-wing stickers? I never have; I have seen a few cars whose drivers are religious nuts. I’m not suggesting such cars don’t exist, but I’ve never seen one. Within my own experience, invariably the stickers are left-wing or similar, such as a bunch of stickers showing that the car’s owner is for peace and tolerance and really a better souled person than the rest of us.

Jul 22, 2009 - 5:21 am 5. David S:

I don’t think the problem is respect. I converse and “break bread” with conservatives on a regular basis. I respect their political beliefs, although I firmly disagree with most of them. The problems I have with conservatives are generally related to religious evangelism and intolerance.

If conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellows, there would be much more calm and rational discourse. In my experience, once religious arguments are stripped away, it is quite possible to have a fair-minded discussion.

The problem of indoctrination is one that I see much differently. Most of the indoctrination and force-fed beliefs are coming from the religious right – and the left has been far too timid in responding to this phenomenon. The hijacking of religion for political purposes is a danger here at home as well as abroad. A lack of respect for other faiths and unbelievers is a common thread on the Christian right as well as the Muslim fringe.

If conservatives want to get invited to cocktail parties, they just need to respect the others at the party.

Peace.

DS

Jul 22, 2009 - 5:35 am 6. David S:

@4. Alex Bensky:

And how often have you seen that sort of display with right-wing stickers?

Pretty regularly, actually.

I never have; I have seen a few cars whose drivers are religious nuts.

I guess you don’t get out much?

I’m not suggesting such cars don’t exist, but I’ve never seen one.

Well, if you visit the link above, we can fix that. Just a representative example for you.

Within my own experience, invariably the stickers are left-wing or similar, such as a bunch of stickers showing that the car’s owner is for peace and tolerance and really a better souled person than the rest of us.

I’d sure be more comfortable with someone promoting peace and tolerance, rather than war and mutual distrust. But that’s just me.

Peace.

DS

Jul 22, 2009 - 5:42 am 7. Paul in MI:

So is this a center-right country or are conservatives an oppressed minority? It seems like there were enough conservatives to elect 3 Republican presidents in the last 30 years. That’s a combined total of 20 years of conservatives in the White House if you’re keeping score. Maybe you guys are just going to the wrong cocktail parties?

Jul 22, 2009 - 5:58 am 8. Peter the Bubblehead:

4. Alex Bensky wrote:
And how often have you seen that sort of display with right-wing stickers? I never have; I have seen a few cars whose drivers are religious nuts. I’m not suggesting such cars don’t exist, but I’ve never seen one. Within my own experience, invariably the stickers are left-wing or similar, such as a bunch of stickers showing that the car’s owner is for peace and tolerance and really a better souled person than the rest of us.

Peter writes: I’m not entirely positive if I’m the exception to the rule yiou spoke of. The back of my car is covered with expressly non-liberal stickers consisting of my OIF Vet sticker, my Dolphins (submarine warfare qualification), the ship I served aboard (2 tours), the Navy Memorial, Submarine Vets, and my Adopted Humpback Whale sticker, and an American Flag. (My front windshield displays my 9/11 memorial sticker in the corner.) So there are those of us willing to display out conservative-traditional values as well.

The one thing I would not display (strictly because of the area of the contry I live in, New England) is any kind of political sticker because cars have been vandelized in my region for displaying conservative/republican candidates.

(Can’t begin to tell you how many Kerry/Edwards stickers I still see everywhere around were I live.)

Jul 22, 2009 - 6:10 am 9. c:

I voted for Obama. I don’t have a sticker on my care. I don’t boast. I tend to shy away from talking politics with those I do not know. And I have been “attacked” verbally by conservatives on more than one occasion. I remeber one ocassion in which I was in the grocery store talking with the check out person and he noted that I still had my “I Voted” sticker on my jacket. I said that I wanted to keep it on because I was part of something big and I was not ready to part with it yet. He said I see “feel you,” conversation over. The woman behind me went on the assault saying that she could not understand how we could be so stupid to vote for that guy. She went on and on “what is wrong with you,” “the guy is not even an American,” “Blah, blah, blah.” Conservatives can be and have been every bit as obnoxious and liberals.

Jul 22, 2009 - 6:11 am 10. The Skizzerd of Waz:

I hate it whenever I come to a red light and the car ahead of me is plastered with all sorts of stickers. I can stomach the sports or music band stuff, but the liberal political crap is just so offensive.

I know if I covered my car with conservative tags, it would probably be vandalized by some neanderthal “progressive”. You know the type, cries a river over a billboard “forcing” any religion or patriotic theme down their throat, but thinks nothing of turning his/her car into a rolling billboard with statements that others might find offensive.

The idiots behind the wheel of those rolling Obamanations are lousy drivers too …

Jul 22, 2009 - 6:11 am 11. Cato:

Paul in MI: both are true – overall, the country is center-right, but in the major metropolitan areas of the East and West coasts, in which much of the entertainment, news, political, academic, and financial elites reside, conservatives are a distinct minority.

Jul 22, 2009 - 6:33 am 12. AThinkingPerson:

Re The Skizzerk of Waz: I wholeheartedly agree with your political bumper sticker hatred. The interesting thing is the sudden absence of Obama/Biden stickers that the country was seemingly wallpapered in a few short months ago.

Jul 22, 2009 - 6:33 am 13. MarkD:

I would write that I don’t care what they think, but they don’t think. Life is too short to waste any time with unpleasant people.

Jul 22, 2009 - 6:37 am 14. Rose:

I’m the only conservative in a family of 5. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been “shut down”, and I’m the mother for god’s sake.

Jul 22, 2009 - 6:49 am 15. "progressive"watch:

Alex Bensky(4)a real insight that a leftist’s political view is part of his “virtue,rightness and superority” view of himself; it is also true that it is part of his view of the conservative as a person–the conservative lacks the virtue,rightness and superority the leftist has because the conservative is a conservative. This is also tied to the leftist view,often expressed by leftist feminists and academics,that everything is political.

Jul 22, 2009 - 7:15 am 16. JFP:

I’ve been “excommunicated” by most of my leftist friends, and I don’t even consider myself a conservative. I think of myself as a leftist, though I now vote Republican.

Just for the record, there’s a distinction between leftists who are anti-imperialist and those who are anti-fascist. I’m among the small number of leftists in the latter category. (To me, the big conflict of our era is the fight against the Islamo-fascists.)

And Joel Kotkin has distinguished between gentry leftists and populist leftists:

http://www.newgeography.com/content/00630-democrats-could-face-internal-civil-war-gentry-and-populist-factions-square-off

I’m in the latter group.

Jul 22, 2009 - 7:16 am 17. johnt:

Rose.#8 Not to worry, just tell the family, those that do pay, to enjoy the higher taxes,[ forget about just the rich]that are forthcoming. You might also remind them of the farce called “stimulus” and the violations of property rights
There’s plenty of ammunition to use but you might close with suggesting that they find another less harmful faith other than liberalism, whose failure screams loud and clear with Obama.
There has got to be something out there, maybe Buddhism.

Jul 22, 2009 - 7:26 am 18. Paul in MI:

@Cato #11

It seems like conservatives have a bit of a persecution complex that isn’t really justified by recent history. No matter how underrepresented you are in academic and media circles you still managed to get George W. Bush elected twice. You’ve had Republicans in the White House for 20 of the last 30 years, 28 of the last 50. And as far as intolerance goes you only have to look through the comments on this website to find words like “moron”, “communist” and “traitor” used to describe people whose main crime was voting to suspend production on the F-22.

Jul 22, 2009 - 7:59 am 19. GCPSteve:

#14 ROSE

Hang in there!

When I visit my mothers house (my sister and neice live there as well)the political discussions erupt into a one sided shouting match. My liberal family will invariably start screaming at me for not seeing things their way. I, on the other hand, always respond to said attacks with even toned, calm replys.

During the last election, when Palin was announced as the VP nominee, my 22 year old neice pronounced “Sarah Palin is an idiot”. When I asked her what she was basing this opinion on, she went silent. She had absolutely nothing. It was obvious to me that she was simply regurgitating a talking point she heard on AirAmerica or some other such rubbish.

Jul 22, 2009 - 8:18 am 20. Michael:

I went to my visit my brother who voted for Obama. Still thinks he is a great guy.

He was going to work overtime that day and he was really happy because he was going to get all that overtime pay. Then he got a scowl on his face and I asked him what wrong. He muttered something about all the extra taxes he would have to pay that negated the overtime.

I just looked at him and told him that I had heard that paying taxes was a good and patrotic thing.

I can still feel his displeasure.

Jul 22, 2009 - 9:44 am 21. Mongoose:

Rose: You hang in there! Speak your mind. One day they will know that you are right.

Jul 22, 2009 - 9:48 am 22. Blarty Blarckleblart:

Sorry to disrupt your pity party, but y’all should know the exact same thing applies in reverse to liberals who live among conservatives. So your hands aren’t clean either.

Jul 22, 2009 - 11:02 am 23. johnt:

Paul in MI,#18, a remarkable missing of the mark with your post, though a thank you for reminding us Bush was President though you left out the hysterical abuse he was subject to, theocracy, fascism; illegal war, and on and on.
The point was about the general social atmosphere in certain social circles, not recent political history, as many of us can actually remember who was President of late.
Persecution complex you say? Perhaps you might consider Obama’s whining, and liberal whining in general, about a certain radio personality. True the Democrats only have the NY Times, Newsweek, the WaPo, Time magazine, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc. ,etc, so one can appreciate their beleaguered status and emotions, as I think I understand yours.

But more than that is the arrogance that resided in the Left. Inexplicable considering what’s going on in D.C. at the moment, with more and worse to come. Which if I care to and I may not, I could expand beyond your skimpy, and self conscious I daresay, mention of only the F-22.

Now as to intolerance and strange you should bring it up. Apart from the difference between websites and social gatherings, or who controls the bulk of the media, I would for myself much prefer those intolerant people who would cut my taxes then those tolerant people who will raise them, those who would allow me some freedom in medical care then those tolerant who would lie in my face and tolerantly force me into a plan they will avoid, those intolerant that do believe in free speech rather than those tolerant who are itching for speech control, or fairness as they call it.

But if intolerant better they are intolerant towards scumbags, am I being too polite, like Rev. Wright and Bomber Bill Ayers, who a current hero of the left has shown more than a small amount of tolerance towards.

So the point remains. The people who would exercise more power or advocate it over others, and thru an engine as hopelessly incompetent as government, are in their own religious faith, liberalism as it is in error called, the most egregiously arrogant.

But they may be in for some rude awakenings over the next year.

Disclaimer; none of the above is to be taken as an unconditional approval of the Republican
Party. It does represent the belief that we have gone from fair/bad to worse/disgraceful/dangerous/horrible.

Jul 22, 2009 - 11:33 am 24. blotto:

Peterthebubblehead: I’m RM2(SS) myself.

DaveS: If conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellows, there would be much more calm and rational discourse.”

And your third paragraph is so full of nonsense that I cannot really respond. Except to say:

This is such a red herring. And an old canard. You must really get a better quiver of debate ideas because you are really embarrassing yourself. When has a conservative pols ever tried to impose their religious beliefs on the public. Cite a reference please.

“The problem of indoctrination is one that I see much differently.” No, really?? I suppose you still believe that colleges are dominated by right-winger professors, that the MSM is nothing but a right-wing conspiracy, that Catholics are living in the Crusades…

The idea that you would write such nonsense demonstrates that in order to have something to say, you must lie. Pretty pathetic.

Jul 22, 2009 - 11:51 am 25. Paul in MI:

@johnt #23
I can’t decide if your post was consciously mocking an “intellectual” writing style or if you just think proofreading is for sissies.

“Which if I care to and I may not, I could expand beyond your skimpy, and self conscious I daresay, mention of only the F-22.”
I’ve read this sentence 15 times and I still don’t know what it says. Something about how you might or might not provide examples other than the F-22 which you think I mentioned self-consciously?

Here’s my point. There’s a lot of intolerance going around these days but for conservatives to act like they’re some sort of oppressed underclass is just pathetic.

Jul 22, 2009 - 12:35 pm 26. Anneke:

“If conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellows, there would be much more calm and rational discourse. In my experience, once religious arguments are stripped away, it is quite possible to have a fair-minded discussion.”

David S. – You have a problem with Christians not conservatives. The two are not one-and-the-same. I know plenty of liberal, leftist Christians in the S.F. Bay Area who are just as eager as any fundamentalist to convert me and to impose their particular dogmas on society.

“The hijacking of religion for political purposes is a danger here at home as well as abroad.”

Agreed, but I hope you’re aware of examples in which the Left is hijacking religion for political purposes (e.g. liberation theology; the Sojourners; racialists such as Jackson, Sharpton, Wright, and Farrakhan).

I’ve actually had one of those tolerant, diverse, open-minded Liberals try to get me fired from my job because simply because she found out that I was a conservative. As far as I’m concerned, if you sit your ass in your chair and do your job, I couldn’t care less who you voted for. But, that’s just me.

Jul 22, 2009 - 12:52 pm 27. Insufficiently Sensitive:

@ #5
Most of the indoctrination and force-fed beliefs are coming from the religious right – and the left has been far too timid in responding to this phenomenon.

Let me catch my breath – that last guffaw about wore me out.

There’s hardly a lefty who’s ever met anyone from the ‘religious right’, or even engaged in a conversation, let alone a conversion. The above italics simply contain the manufactured and bigoted slogan approved for use by lefties against Christians.

The left is anything but timid about imposing its beliefs by peer pressure, indoctrination, exclusion and shouting down dissent. ‘Diversity’ in the sense of tolerance does not exist among the left. It’s only skin-deep, is only concerned with race, and is designed as a one-way ratchet specifically to pry white males out of positions of power. Welcoming diverse opinions is not a part of the left, which insists on strict adherence to dogma enforced by peer pressure, indoctrination, shouting down dissent and exclusion. The leftist’s goal is power over others, by any means necessary.

The religious right by comparison has a nearly Christlike tolerance for others.

Jul 22, 2009 - 1:09 pm 28. Common Sense:

2 years ago I received a forwarded MoveOn.org email from our niece. I asked her politely not to forward political spam, a nice and generic request, but that we love hearing about her and her family.

Ever since then, we’ve had very little contact with that side of our family (my husband’s). Shortly after the email, my husband let slip something on the phone with his sister that identified us as conservative. For some reason, they always thought we were liberal and were shocked and dismayed when they found out we weren’t.

Although we’ve tried not to let conversation drift towards politics, I’ve had my sister-in-law stand in my kitchen and visciously wish George W Bush dead in front of my children, and mean it.

And she absolutely hates their other brother, a retired colonel.

It’s sad losing so much contact with half of our family, but even my kids don’t want to be around them and their visciousness.

Even scarier is that my sister-in-law and her daughter are teachers.

Jul 22, 2009 - 1:21 pm 29. Strawman:

If conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellows, there would be much more calm and rational discourse

Spoken just like Alan Dershowitz. Nothing matters except my fantasies of bending society through the force of government, and I’ll listen to your ideas, as long as mine rule. That’s essentially what that red herring boils down to; you can have any political views as long as they’re flaming left-wing. That’s what “shared values” is code for.

This petulance is a ruse. This is just plain dishonest to imply that it’s legitimate to have preconditions for civility. They’re just trying to hide from their responsibility to be honest.

Jul 22, 2009 - 1:58 pm 30. johnt:

Paul in MI, only one sentence, that’s it? I bet you had no trouble with most of the other sentences and the points therein.
But I’m a helpful kind of guy so just in case your confusion, fifteen times over, is not feigned let me unravel the puzzle for you.
The “self conscious” part of it is my expressed supposition that you know damn well that there are other very real and substantive issues that deserve criticism, that there is a tad or so of old fashioned bulls–t in your F-22 only comment.
It is possible that you have been in a coma for six months and have missed a lot of the action. If so I wish you a speedy recovery. If not we are back to the bulls–t option.

I would reserve the word “pathetic” for a President and his more zealous supporters who are so thin skinned as to take after the very few real critics of his grotesque policies when in fact the vast bulk of the media has been whoring a plenty for this obnoxious creature.

Much more could be said of pathos, in particular of those who make weak attempts at comparisons where none exist. But I went into that already.

Good luck in your reading, this one you should ba able to handle.

Jul 22, 2009 - 2:38 pm 31. CJinMadison:

Ahhh… David S. You’re a good solid liberal. You can sleep well tonight.

I’ll simply challenge one of your comments: You say that you are more concerned with right-wing indoctrination than with left-wing indoctrination.

Where, exactly, do you observe this right-wing indoctrination occurring? If you are going to try to persuade me that there is more right-wing indoctrination in the public school and universities, then I call you a scoundrel and a liar. You simply must provide proof and documentation… reports (not anecdotes) and sources. To me, “liberalism in academia” is more of a no-brainer than “global warming” or “hiring quotas are necessary”.

So… assuming that you were referring to some other venue for all of this pernicious right-wing indoctrination, again, I have to ask “where?” Please, oh please, tell me that you are concerned about all the right-wing indoctrination that occurs in all the churches in America. Please, tell me that is your big concern.

If so, then I dance around your figurative grave: public schools are funded by (say it with me) public money. Churches, on the other hand, are private institutions. I can choose to support a church, or have my kids indoctrinated by a church. I, however, cannot choose my schools. Nor, can I choose to expose my kid to the indoctrinations of the classroom.

And, Bub. One bumper sticker in the airport parking lot does not a craze make. There are plenty of extremers, on both ends of the spectrum. But, the original post, which instigated your response… the original post suggested that, percentage-wise, there are more left-wing bumper stickers than there are right-wing bumper stickers. This, too, I take as a neutral fact. (That is to say, if it’s true, there’s nothing wrong with the observation.) But, IMHO, lefties just feel more of a need to SAY SOMETHING than most righties do.

Jul 22, 2009 - 2:47 pm 32. Peter the Bubblehead:

To Blotto @ #24:
Hey, Blotto. ET2/ss myself.
I’m amazed at how many fellow bubbleheads show up on PJM. Actually, when I consider our shared experiences, perhaps I shouldn’t be so amazed.

Jul 22, 2009 - 3:04 pm 33. Peter the Bubblehead:

28. Common Sense wrote:
Even scarier is that my sister-in-law and her daughter are teachers.

Peter writes: Of COURSE they are!

Jul 22, 2009 - 3:09 pm 34. canuck:

I never have a problem…I merely remind them that it is politically incorrect to refer to any kid as being brain damaged, gorked, retarded, etc…so we merely lump them all together as “Democrats” and everyone in sight knows exactly what is being said…except of course the Democrats that are so illogical and spoon fed to understand.

They all run from association with Nancy Pelosi, Chucky Dirtbag Schumer or Rangel, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Ted Kennedy, Little Dick Durbin, Sleazy Murtha, Stupid Barbara Boxer…they only want to discuss some generic perfect and honest leftist, but none cannot name one.

I can’t help them there.

Jul 22, 2009 - 3:46 pm 35. Strawman:

But, IMHO, lefties just feel more of a need to SAY SOMETHING than most righties do.

No. Nuhah. Full out wrong. What lefties feel the need to do is morally/intellectually pose. They’re vain, and want to show the world how smart and sensitive they are. So they plaster their carbon spewing machines with vapid non sequiturs about saving the planet. Cuz that’s what smart people do.

Wingnut rednecks, OTOH, are too dumb and selfish to tell the world how dumb and selfish they are. Because that would be a waste of a bumper sticker. You can buy a beer for what that bumper sticker costs. Why try to show everyone how dumb and selfish you are, when you can have a beer?

Make sense?

Jul 22, 2009 - 4:17 pm 36. AtheistConservative:

“I respect their political beliefs … if conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellow”

As a subversive you’re quite poor. You can’t even hold a straight face through three sentences.

Sir, I could debate circles around you. Any topic, any issue. You would be crying and begging for mercy – or, like most statists do, probably just resort to ad hominem attacks and screaming.

This is why your type don’t like talking with Conservatives. It has nothing to do with ‘religious dogma’ – which is a hilarious non-issue; when was the last time someone invoked ‘religious dogma’ to rail against Obama’s massive deficit spending, takeover of private industry, and attempt to take over health care?

“It seems like conservatives have a bit of a persecution complex that isn’t really justified by recent history”

Not at all. We realize that the vast majority of America is at odds with the MSM, the entertainment industry, and the academic crowds – all of whom are centered in big cities. We know from polling that the vast majority of this country is Conservative.

We don’t complain about persecution from real Americans. Just from the trendy, left-wing, tired, empty-headed, hateful people with whom we have to associate. The ‘entitled’ crowd who think the universities, big cities, movies, television, newspapers, magazines, and so on are their property.

The biggest indicator of this schism was the meteoric rise of Fox News. Which is why you lefties hate it so much: as with all things, you think you DESERVE complete control of all forms of communication, because everything you say is perfect. Even if you can’t really explain it, or defend it in an argument. Even if you never bother to update your knowledge or check your facts. I mean, you watch The Daily Show! Isn’t that enough?!?

Jul 22, 2009 - 8:26 pm 37. rbell:

#36 Atheism is a religion. It is more of a religion than Christianity which is based upon fact. A real Christian is apolitical but as a citizen he or she is free to vote however they want. As one of my atheist friends said, “there is no difference between a man and an animal.” I said “wrong because animals don’t pay taxes.”

As one who passed through the halls of academia I was appalled by the brutish behavior and lack of reason on the part of my professors. I entered the university as a Kennedy Democrat and came out a Goldwater Republican. Quite the opposite of most people. Fear and intimidation are their stock in trade and people many years after college are still afraid of being called a neanderthal. They project all their mean vile behavior onto their opponents. As the saying goes “your best defense isa good offense ” and who would want to defend their cruel and inhumane positions. That is why they struggle to change the meaning of words. It makes them less appalling.

Liberals have been around for eons. They usually close out a great civilization. Ours is about to end. They have had control of our schools for more than 60 years. Last week I sat next to a girl at the airport who was breathlessly telling her friend “we are about to have health care like they have in Sweden”. She knows nothing about either subject.

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:48 pm 38. Quentin:

Re #4:

The best bumper sticker I ever saw was in Hay River, Alberta (better that “cold, dead hands” stuff):
“When they take my gun it’ll be warm and empty!”

Jul 25, 2009 - 4:26 pm

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