All I Want for Christmas Is to Make Obama’s Enemies List
Figuring out a way to end up on the coveted "fishy" list of health care opponents.
I was too young and too obscure to make Richard Nixon’s enemies list back in the day. Not yet out of my teens, my attendance at subversive rallies against the Vietnam War and my contributions to a wildly anti-Nixon publication at my high school we bravely called The Truth just weren’t enough to bring me to the attention of Charles Colson. Thus, I never had a chance to get my name listed along with other great Americans like Ted Kennedy, Paul Newman, and Joe Namath.
I was a good little radical back then, mouthing all the idiocy we heard our elders spouting about evil corporations, evil conservatives, and the evil, evil military. Alas, the world passed me by and the one great opportunity of a lifetime to be recognized as an enemy of the state was lost.
Until now.
Having since grown up, gotten a job, and been disabused of the idea that there is, in fact, such a thing as a free lunch — along with other magical ideas liberals hold — you can imagine my delight when I heard that President Obama is going to be starting an enemies list of his own.
This time, I am absolutely determined to make the grade. Nothing will stand in my way. Come hell or high water, I am going to get my name on that list if I have to camp out in front of the office of Linda Douglass, communications director for the White House Office of Health Reform, until she slaps my moniker on that list just to get rid of me.
Douglass, who used to spout liberal agitprop for ABC News, now does something very similar for President Obama. Concerned that opponents of health care were disseminating information about the bill that fell outside the official White House-approved talking points, she made a nice little home video priming her charges for the work ahead. Then she had one of her flunkies ask the millions of Obamabots who still think their Dear Leader can do no wrong to report fellow citizens to the White House who weren’t making approved statements about the president’s plan:
Hi. I’m Linda Douglass. I’m the communications director for the White House Office of Health Reform, and one of my jobs is to keep track of all the disinformation that’s out there about health-insurance reform. And there are a lot of very deceiving headlines out there right now, such as this one — take a look at this one. This one says, “Uncovered Video: Obama Explains How His Health Care Plan Will Eliminate Private Insurance.”
Well, nothing can be farther from the truth. You know the people who always try to scare people whenever you try to bring them health-insurance reform are at it again. And they’re taking sentences and phrases out of context, and they’re cobbling them together to leave a very false impression. The truth is that the president has been talking to the American people a lot about health-insurance reform and what is at stake for them.
This was followed up with a note posted on the White House website from director of new media Macon Phillips:
On Monday, White House director of new media Macon Phillips posted a note on the White House web site complaining of “disinformation about health insurance reform.” “These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation,” Phillips wrote. “Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.”
Whoa. “Casual conversation?” That covers a lot of ground, doesn’t it? Of course, writing a blog and having articles published here on the Pajamas Media website already gives me an advantage over other opponents of health care reform. My problem will be finding a way to drop anti-health care reform bombs during the right kind of casual conversation so that I am reported to the White House with agreeable alacrity.
I suppose I could report myself, but where’s the fun in that? Nope, I must seek out the most rabid Obama supporter I know and, during the course of a typical casual conversation, let loose with some doozies about how senior citizens are going to be marched off to euthanasia facilities under ObamaCare. Or how born babies will have to undergo a Spartan ritual examination to determine their fitness to survive under our nationalized health care system. Are they worthy of being included in our ObamaCare utopia? If not, it’s over the cliff with them.
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151 Comments
1. Bill N:I’ll nominate you if you’ll nominate me.
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:07 am 2. fear Obama:Should I change my screen name?
I used small letters for my screen title-
fear Obama.
I didn’t say FEAR BAMBIE,
Or FEAR HOPE-AA-DOPE.
Or some other slanderous name.
PLEASE TELL ME I WON’T GET INTO TROUBLE WITH AN IRS AUDIT?
If PJM could go back and delete all my comments, would that get me on or off the enemies list?
Its terrible that the thoughts of a keyboard and mouse could wind up getting me put into a dark pee smelling stained room and beaten by an ACORN volunteer.
If I keep worrying about this I will probably need Obamacare or become one of the 27 million that need anti-depressive drugs.
Oh the frigging humanity of it all!
(half hour later)
I am fine now-
I went into my private room and looked at the American Flag taking from the casket covered body of my father that fought in WW2.
And read some of his letters from that Great War.
I also thought about what John McCain said:
“They don’t scare me,
I have been frighten by professionals.”
Anyone that has served in Vietnam a couple of years knows what/who he was talking about.
So bring on your pushy little whiny Chicago Mob hair heads and watch me do the Bambie shuffle on some of their community meetings without a teleprompter.
I have nothing to loose and I owe it to my grandchildren.
Trolls Welcome..
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:07 am 3. jbaker:I also want to make the list. To that end I sent the following email to: flag@whitehouse.gov
“To whomever is in charge until the adults come back to Washington:
I need to report Obama, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, and a few select others, for submitting frivolous and unconstitutional proposed legislation, and using manipulative tactics and coercion to entice, and/or force, other lawmakers to vote for bills of national significance without first reading it and fully understanding the implication to the American public, i.e., porkulus and health care reform. And worse, deliberately using clouded language to hide the true ramifications of this legislation from the American public. I also want to report the Secretary of the Treasury, Mr. Timothy Geithner; (I’ve heard from reliable sources that he cheats on his taxes).
I also want to report the Obama administration for encouraging these Soviet style tactics in regards to encouraging Americans to inform directly to their leaders of the free and protected speech of those who may disagree with official Obama policy. Furthermore, I question the motivation of the administration in making this request, and to what purpose the information gleaned would be used. I also question the accuracy of such reports. I suggest that any type of penalty for disagreement would have to be investigated extensively, thereby wasting billions more taxpayer dollars on frivolous bureaucratic BS. I hereby inform you that I do not appreciate the violation of my constitutional right to peaceably disagree with what Washington DC decides to do WITH MY MONEY!
You have my name and e-mail address; also note please that I am a veteran, therefore I believe somebody in your office considers me to be an enemy of the state.
For what it’s worth, I also believe you are all a collection of shameless liars.
I am here waiting to be picked up by the Obamagestapo.
VTY,
J. Baker”
I sincerely hope that gets my name on the list. These people really piss me off. I also hope about 300 million other outraged Americans send a similar email to the flag@whitehouse.gov
We need to get our names on the list, “the list” being the voter registration rolls for 2010, so we can start throwing these bums out of our political house. Go to the city dog pound, find the ugliest, meanest, dirtiest cur you can find, and elect him to congress, send him to Washington. Maybe the Ivy League elites will then get the message.
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:09 am 4. marc Malone:I could pretend to be an obamite astroturfer and turn you in….
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:44 am 5. Chris:I also want to get on this A-list and sent the following e-mail to flat@whitehouse.gov hoping it will get me consideration.
Please be advised that I have received a fishy e-mail regarding the ongoing
Aug 7, 2009 - 1:14 am 6. RightwingHippieChick:health care reform debate. It is about the provisions in the bill for salmon with pre-existing conditions and how the government will take care of them with the public option. Seems trout and bass are currently not included in the bill, hope Nancy does something about that. You people should be ashamed of yourselves with these communist tactics, I pray for only one term for you liberal clowns.
This list must be poisoned by thousands of false positives, otherwise it may become a real danger to people.
Get snitching folks!
Aug 7, 2009 - 1:33 am 7. pjmanshardt:“Efficiency married to pracicality”? I see no evidence that anyone at the White House would know it if they saw it.
Aug 7, 2009 - 2:58 am 8. Vicki Collins:I’ll send your name in when I send mine in. Will that help?
Aug 7, 2009 - 3:19 am 9. Rick:I am sure the trolls that creep in and out of here are already hard at work trying to figure out how to rat out as many dissenters as they possibly can to the Great OZ- I mean oblammo.The storm is coming. . .
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:10 am 10. Cindy Sue Causey:Hopefully I’ve just made the list (if I haven’t already as I have an “unusual” follower who showed up during one of my daylong goes at health care reform)..
Anyway, sent @WhiteHouse a tweet a little bit ago asking them in so many words why are they consciously using “Flag”, the verbal representation of one of our national symbols, for people to “big brother” America..
The more I think on it, what a great way to forever attach a humongously negative connotation to that very word that in and of itself is capable of eliciting a mental image of all that we hold so dear and proudly..
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:12 am 11. englishrose:Well, i’m on the list right away. I’ve obliterated my blog or else faces of condemnation.
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:12 am 12. Outrageous:“As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights.”
Yesterday the Whitehouse advised Democrats to, “Punch back twice as hard.” And sure enough with the dispatch of his Union thugs things turned violent Chicago style several places across our nation last night.
Mr. Obama has now crossed a line that no president has ever dared try in the United States of America. He has sent a chilling message to every citizen in our nation saying, “You will do what I tell you to even if I have to beat you into a pulp!”
It is time for Americans to demand their elected representatives get this man under control or begin the steps needed to have him removed from office.
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:19 am 13. sodacrackers:#3 jbaker, you are my hero!
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:21 am 14. SB:Things are getting very ugly out there very fast after White House deputy chief of staff Jim Messina told Democrat senators “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard”. Violence broke out at Castor town hall meeting in Tampa, and across the country, and it seems that this will be a very hot and brutal summer. Every one who go to those and any other meetings must make sure that they have plenty of video and cell phone cameras, and some cameras with monopods running from a distance to document the tsunami that will be brought down upon the people. Reminds me of Ezekiel 25:17 ” ….. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men ….. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger ….. when I lay my vengeance upon you.” This may turn out to be a summer to remember, a summer of discontent, a summer of living dangerously, and may be a time about which people will tell their families and neighbors that “this story shall the good man teach his son; ….. From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remember’d; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me, Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition” in “states unborn and accents yet unknown”. Be well, and be safe.
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:33 am 15. Paul -Indiana:
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:08 am 16. vivo:Are you still proud that you voted for Obama? Really?
Another enlightening article by Rick Moron.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:21 am 17. DaRick:…and yet another slanderous, content-free comment by vivo.
By the way, I come from Queensland, Australia, where the public, government-run health care system is in a real shambles. They’ve even reduced the number of hospital beds per number of Queenslanders, FFS!
Although the two systems probably won’t be identical, I oppose Obama’s healthcare reforms because I fear that it will do to Americans what the Queensland health system has done to various Queenslanders. I don’t feel that the government, as a general rule, is competent at running health care.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:27 am 18. jharp:“that you will be forced onto the public plan eventually.”
Yep, somewhere around age 65, everyone gets “forced” onto the public plan.
It’s called Medicare.
You guys are pathetic.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:35 am 19. Fred Beloit:A gentle reminder to Nancy Pelosi that it may be imprudent to drag the swastika into the tea party discussion. Pelosi, RIP.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080609/content/01125106.guest.html
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:37 am 20. Rick:vivo-it was an enlightening article by Mr. MORAN-you are the moron for refusing to see how harmful you and your “messiah” are to our country. I can only hope and pray he and you and your ilk are stopped before it is to late. . . send that, you fishy a**hat. . . .
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:39 am 21. adam:These declarations of war upon Americans are actually very good news. They are a sign of desperation, and every single one of them will backfire. The biggest mistake you can make today is thinking you can talk only to “your own” without everyone else hearing you. It’s like trying to gossip about everyone else at a party without realizing that everything you say echoes instantly to everyone. It’s not necessary to do much more right now than simply repeating, amplifying, disseminating, parodying and otherwise reiterating in entertaining ways exactly what the Democrats themselves are saying. The well dressed as enemies of the state (Boxer); astroturfers as using swastikas (Pelosi); “hitting back hard” against old ladies (well, they still have their health insurance, don’t they?); reporting on the “fishy”–there’s no way any of us could have invented such material for ourselves, and there’s bound to be more of it coming daily. Just keep the incompetence and the babbling circulating. Looking ridiculous is fatal to people who claim to be able to tell us what to eat, which medical procedures to have, which cars to drive, etc.–first, let them make a reasonably coherent and half-way honest statement.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:40 am 22. ~Paules:“Senate Judiciary Committee lawyers studying the proposal say . . .”
Well, I certainly feel better knowing that lawyers can’t find anything wrong with the idea. I’m quite sure that lawyers in the Soviet Union couldn’t find anything wrong with the gulag archipelago either.
Next up: a typical troll to spew “well, Bush collected thousands of names under the Patriot Act.”
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:42 am 23. Bryan:Finally A Dream Comes True
Obama and his supporters:
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:50 am 24. Helen:This could be called the Pavlik Morozov list after the young pioneer who is supposed to have shopped his father and uncle during collectivization, was then murdered and made into a great Soviet hero.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:17 am 25. Parabellum:Another enlightening bout of infantile name calling by vivo.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:26 am 26. chris:Another brilliant and astute post by vivo. Having nothing contemplative to say he always tries to deride the authors of the articles on pj media with callow comments or childishly distorting their names.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:28 am 27. gamehawker:Folks,
What seems fishy to me is the way you guys are changing this great country. I think it’s fishy that the Black Panther Party can intimidate voters and get away with it.
I believe ACORN is fishy.
I respect your views even though I don’t agree with them. Whets wrong with debate?
I also think it’s fishy to send union members to Town Hall meetings to confront people who don’t agree with your agenda and tell you so.
I remember candidate Obama saying “go out and get in peoples faces! “ Is he being hypocritical??
I think it’s fishy that you set loose Iranians who have been directly responsible for killing our brave men and women.
That’s my definition of fishy, I’m sure I’m fishy to you so I’m reporting myself!
God Bless America!
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:33 am 28. John "birther" Samford:It’s not the IRS you need to worry about. No job = no payroll taxes, plus the IRS has to take you to court. Traditionally, the judiciary tends to frown on enemies lists.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:39 am 29. gamehawker:No, you need to worry about the SS. Secret Service, that is. The American version has powers that the Nazi version never dreamed of having. The American SS can pick you up and lock you up for observation anytime they want. That observation lasts as long as they want it to.
While I don’t know this to be true, I have heard that the SS is sworn to the PRESIDENT, not the Constitution like the military. AFAIK most police swear to uphold the Constitution when they are sworn in. State Constitution in most cases.
An Aside; I was re-reading a history of the 3rd Reich and came across something I had forgotten
Hitler was a community organizer. A Bildungsoffizier, which is a cultural instructor or ideological instruction officer.
Combined with the Usurper’s economic policies, he is a better match for Hitler then Bush was.
So where are the cries of ObamHitler? Or BarakHitler?
oops!!!
Above and copied below (# 17) is the email I sent to the “Turn in a patriot site!!
Folks,
What seems fishy to me is the way you guys are changing this great country. I think it’s fishy that the Black Panther Party can intimidate voters and get away with it.
I believe ACORN is fishy.
I respect your views even though I don’t agree with them. Whets wrong with debate?
I also think it’s fishy to send union members to Town Hall meetings to confront people who don’t agree with your agenda and tell you so.
I remember candidate Obama saying “go out and get in peoples faces! “ Is he being hypocritical??
I think it’s fishy that you set loose Iranians who have been directly responsible for killing our brave men and women.
That’s my definition of fishy, I’m sure I’m fishy to you so I’m reporting myself!
God Bless America!
I love you guys! What a great post!! There needs to be t- shirts and hats with American Flags
that say I made the list!!
See you in the gulag.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:41 am 30. John "birther" Samford:Has anyone considered filing suit against Linda Douglass?
Class action for violating our 1st amendment rights?
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:42 am 31. Now and Then:I certainly feel a chill from her threats.
Protesting the government . . . complaining about enemies lists . . . blaming the media . . . organizing resistance . . . getting arrested . . . threatening violence . . . congratulations, you’re now liberals.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:51 am 32. Mark:Well, you can just wear the shirt:
http://www.cafepress.com/FlagWhiteHouse
Cindy, “dissent is the highest form of patriotism”, so I think that if you make it onto the “flag” list at the whitehouse, you are a patriot.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:52 am 33. AThinkingPerson:jharp: The kook-aid army called and said your marching orders were in.
On today’s agenda:
1. Use the term “tea-baggers” loosely and with abandon.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:53 am 34. AThinkingPerson:2. Report all “fishy” comments to headquarters for evaluation.
3. Call all union member friends for shouting-down ordinary citizens at townhall meetings.
4. Any mention of Pelosi ordering 3 private jets should be met with more “tea-bagging” names.
5. Remove any and all Joker/Obama posters and act like you never knew they did it to Bush too.
Re Now and Then: Sorry, complaining ABOUT enemies list does NOT make one a liberal.
Reporting others TO the enemies list for Dear Leader makes one a liberal.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:55 am 35. Anonymous:…well this artical has brought out the trolls. more evidence that they are not just perusing the site to educate themselves.
yesterday blarty even said he didn’t read the articals …so it seems to confirm that it is an assignment for them to go to sites they don’t like. harass people, spread misinformation.
are they ACRON ? …huffington post ? white house press ? …or are they just ideologs who feel a need to help.(read marxist)
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:14 am 36. Now and Then:34. AThinkingPerson:
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:18 am 37. formerliberal:“Reporting others TO the enemies list for Dear Leader makes one a liberal”
Michelle Malkin – liberal.
If everyone would simply send fish – meaning pictures, plastic ones, wooden ones, real ones (dead), ones on T shirts… to flag@whitehouse.gov, or the to the White House snail mail address, it would be much like the tea bag mailing. Real annoying for them and funny and provocative for us.
I sent a picture of me holding two salmon I caught to the White House. I, too, am upset they weren’t covered by the new health care bill until I ate them…
The left in power is SO out of touch with real people.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:19 am 38. Sebastian Shaw:President Obama is desperat, but, like a wounded animal, he is still dangerous. I still think any of the Blue Dog Democrats who refuse to attend town halls without the aide of the union thugs should be voted out of office next year; the Democrats are willing to hurt their own constituents via the unions. This is unacceptable. The backlash is growing & getting bigger. The Blue Dogs should be voted out of office completely. Vote Republican in 2010.
The enemies list is just juvenile. It is also unconstitutional.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:20 am 39. tanstaafl:From Senator John Cornyn’s letter to the the White House:
“As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights.”
But chilling by fear is one of few things that the crowd of Chicago thugs running Obama knows how to do.
Nancy Pelosi, muttering about “AstroTurf” and “swastickas” is, literally, crazy, Way beyond chilling.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:25 am 40. Highlander:Some enterprising young blogger should set up a link allowing citizens to sign a petition-like statement to the effect that we the people thought we’d save the Administration having to go to all the trouble and expense of developing a snitch list, by volunteering one of our own – and then sending the resultant list of thousands to the head snitch at the White House. I don’t have the expertise to do this myself, but I would consider it a badge of honor to sign it.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:28 am 41. Now and Then:WASHINGTON (Reuters) – “U.S. employers cut 247,000 jobs in July, far less than expected and the least in any month since last August, according to data on Friday that provided the clearest evidence yet that the economy was turning around. With fewer workers being laid off, the unemployment rate eased to 9.4 percent in July from 9.5 percent the prior month, Labor Department data showed, the first time the jobless rate had fallen since April 2008.”
And now you know why the hysteria is being drummed up by conservative backers and media. You’re running out of time. As the economy continues to rebound, you will become more strident, more desperate, and more marginalized. Your paranoia will bubble to the surface, replacing the self-righteous indignation that you were told you deserved. “He’s a failure! He’s ruining our country!” will no longer be available to you.
Instead it will be, “Facing the most challenging inheritance of any modern president, Barack Obama has turned the foundering ship of the American economy around.. Unemployment is now going down. The big three auto makers remain business. Major healthcare legislation, albeit trimmed back from its original scope, has been passed. And the stock market continues to trade above 10,000.”
Then what are you going to protest? Wait, I know . . . Julie and Julia.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:34 am 42. AThinkingPerson:Re #36 Now and Then: Again, more BS from a kook-aid army GI with marching orders from Obama.
REPORT ME PLEASE!! I’m one of those scary, mob TEABAGGERS!!
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:35 am 43. Pragmatist:A NARCISSIST is as a NARCISSIST does and Obambi is nothing more or less than HYPOCRITICAL NARCISSIST as are all ‘libtards’. They BLATANTLY lie but never apologies or admit they were wrong they are very CONTROLLING but assume everyone is controlling against THEM they establish CULT of PERSONALITY followings but accuse all who disagree with CONSPIRING against them , they say they want UNITY but instead pit Black against white , Hispanic against white, Atheist against Christian, left against right,AMERICAN against AMERICAN, but PERVERSELY claim they want to UNIFY, Take CONTROL while claiming they are LIBERATING, claim organised resistance against THEM when at the SAME time THEY are ORGANISING Union THUGS to oppose peaceful protesters . Then claim THEY are the victims when they victimise every one who disagrees with them . Welcome to OBAMALAND.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:38 am 44. AThinkingPerson:Liberals/Democrats/Kook-Aid army members, are you still proud of your party?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204908604574334623330098540.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/05/pelosi_town_hall_protesters_are_carrying_swastikas.html
The Democratic Party is now the party of SILENCING DISSENT! Who would’a thunk it?
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:41 am 45. Adina Kutnicki,Israel:Rick, add me on to the ‘list’, but as my Chanukah present, if you don’t mind. As a US patriot, now living in Israel, I would wear the ‘listing’ with pride and courage.
After living in the Middle East the LAST thing I am afraid of is the cowardly, clueless left. IF they lived in my neck of the woods they would hide under the covers all day, not daring to run outside and make their mischief.
Many a tough Zionist (guys and gals)would make mincemeat out of Obama’s minions.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:42 am 46. JED:Really.
Centralist, winger, extremist, and then the next phase becomes fascist. Left and right, the eagle needs two wings to fly. Someday in the winds of idealist adventures, congress, POTUS, and the American people will search for what is best for the big bird and not just their group of feathers.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:42 am 47. Now and Then:THIS is fishy:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/health-care-protester-exp_n_253579.html
Kind of thuggish, no?
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:43 am 48. Now and Then:40. AThinkingPerson:
“REPORT ME PLEASE!! I’m one of those scary, mob TEABAGGERS!!”
Enjoy your temper tantrums. We’ll continue to fix your mess.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:47 am 49. AThinkingPerson:Re #41: Only a liberal would see 9.4% unemployment as a GOOD THING.
C’mon Now and Then…now tell us why spending taxpayer money to help someone turn in their “clunker” for a foreign made car is a GOOD THING.
Tell us why passing a health care plan that will withhold end-of-life medical care from seniors is a GOOD THING.
Tell us why the current President asking citizens to TURN IN other citizens for dissent is a GOOD THING.
I’ll grab my tin-foil hat and await your enlightening Obama’isms.
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:49 am 50. billslayer:If I spread rumors, innuendo,vile right wing smears, a little love, about our dear leader and his sugar daddy slum lord boss, Tony Rezko? What if I said the Obamessiah swung both ways for the right dollar amount? Can I be an enemy of the state too????
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:54 am 51. max power:43. Pragmatist:
A NARCISSIST is as a NARCISSIST does and Obambi is nothing more or less than HYPOCRITICAL NARCISSIST as are all ‘libtards’. They BLATANTLY lie but never apologies or admit they were wrong they are very CONTROLLING but assume everyone is controlling against THEM they establish CULT of PERSONALITY followings but accuse all who disagree with CONSPIRING against them , they say they want UNITY but instead pit Black against white , Hispanic against white, Atheist against Christian, left against right,AMERICAN against AMERICAN, but PERVERSELY claim they want to UNIFY, Take CONTROL while claiming they are LIBERATING, claim organised resistance against THEM when at the SAME time THEY are ORGANISING Union THUGS to oppose peaceful protesters . Then claim THEY are the victims when they victimise every one who disagrees with them . Welcome to OBAMALAND.
and those are the good traits !
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:57 am 52. Reiuxcat:C’mon now friends,
If the President throws all us dissenters in jail, who’s gonna pay the taxes?
Aug 7, 2009 - 7:58 am 53. Anonymous:52. Reiuxcat:
C’mon now friends,
If the President throws all us dissenters in jail, who’s gonna pay the taxes?
I don’t think he (Obama) cares. Robert Mugabe didn’t. He used the same marxist handbook that sunshine is using.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:05 am 54. Enemey of stae enemies:Ever since I heard about flag@whitehouse.gov I have been forwarding all seditious material to Linda Douglas such as National Revue & WSJ articles, ads for erectile dysfunction, work at home part time soliciations, internet steroids, etc. I would encourage all readers of this blog to so and encourage all their friends to help keep Douglas abreast of fishy attacks on Obamacare.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:05 am 55. Sherab Zangpo:Also what happened to the liberal mantra during the GWB years that dissent was the ultimate form of patriotism peddled by Alan Combs. Was there an expitation date?
There will be a tax to pay to be on the Enemies of the President list.
You can be sure.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:08 am 56. Now and Then:49. AThinkingPerson:
“Only a liberal would see 9.4% unemployment as a GOOD THING.”
Well, it’s a good thing when it’s going down . . . duh. Seems only a conservative would see unemployment going up as a GOOD THING.
Allow me to show you what most of America here’s when conservative speak.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/orly-taitzs-msnbc-meltdow_n_253832.html
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:09 am 57. sefton:I just sent flag@whitehouse.gov this link-
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
I told them I found it “fishy”. And illegal under the Privacy act of 1974 regardless of what your lawyers say. And fascist.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:11 am 58. glenn:/hope I’m on the fish list now.
I sent ‘em an e-mail telling them that HR3200 looked a little fishy to me. Does that count?
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:14 am 59. AThinkingPerson:Now and Then: Anything the Huffington Post “reports” should be taken for what it is….BS propaganda for the Obama administration. Ariana has been in the tank for him from the beginning and “news” or “facts” be damned.
It doesn’t surprise me though that you’d take their “reporting” to be the gospel. Many uninformed, unread, unthinking, uneducated people do. I especially enjoy the grunting and chest-beating comments. So enlightening as to the mindset of the liberal persona wouldn’t you agree? “We won, you not, we take over things now!” sort of drivel.
You do realize it’s okay to voice a dissenting opinion against the government right? You did hear of a little document called the Constitution right? Just checking. It was written for all of us remember? Not just the whining, hand-wringing, ineffectual liberals unfortunately.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:22 am 60. Daveyardbird:re#41 The 9.4% is not an accurate figure. It does not include several key things. Namely the number of people whose unemployment has run out and are still out of work a number setimated to be 3/4 of a million people. Also it makes no mention of the number of high school and college age kids who were unable to find summer jobs.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:26 am 61. Banned by Huffpo:Only a left-wing whacko would think losing 247,000 a month is “good.”
I love the smell of desperation . . . smells like . . . victory!
Oh, and will some one please flag me to the Obamastormtroopers? I’m a veteran, and therefore an Enemy of the State.
Thanks so much!
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:39 am 62. tanstaafl:More on Die Sprecherin, Mme. Botox, & swastickas…
There does seem to be an eerie resemblance between the Nazi emblem and the Obamacare logo…
Not to mention parallels between foundational ideas of Naziism and tenets of Obamacare, you know, like obsolete people ?
Hmmmm….
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:46 am 63. Sebastian Shaw:To further the collusion with the corrupt Huffington Post, it recently hired David Axelrod’s son to be on its staff; therefore, Now & Then, you need to cite a better source to make your point.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:50 am 64. Calvin Ball:
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:52 am 65. Sebastian Shaw:I mailed several photos of fish, mostly sharks, to flag@whitehouse.gov since they are “fishy.”
Gibbs is now saying they are using this e-mail to collect e-mail addresses. Don’t you feel better?
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:53 am 66. Midori:I sent them in my name — proudly. I also posted about it and challenged my many left, liberal, and moderate Democrat friends to defend the policy of naming names. So far, none have responded.
Also: the employment figures do not count the once full-time employed who now work part time because they can’t find a full time job in their field.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:55 am 67. Teleprompter Jesus:Pay no attention to those numbers. Temperatures are rising and unemployment is falling.
Statistics are racist.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:55 am 68. Elizabeth Gillin:Just to keep the folks at flag at whitehouse dot gov busy, I have been forwarding all my junk mail, notices of sales at Macy’s, and chain letters to them, along with dispatches and pleas for donations from Organize for America, which kept my address from the primary campaign when, sad to say, I actually volunteered for The One because I didn’t want Hillary to get in and impose national health care. ( I came to my senses in time to vote for McCain.) Organize for America is soliciting donations of $1 a day until the health care bill passes from some very poor folks I met as a volunteer. It’s despicable. Anyway, inspired by the comments, I have decided to turn myself in as an enemy of the state, and live on in the White House archives forever, along with all that junk mail.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:57 am 69. Mark Epstein:Oh, please sign me up for the enemies list! In fact, make sure you include a link to my post in your emails to the White House Obama: “Be a Snitch for da Brother”
You can also find blatant correlations between Obamacare and Nazism on my blog. Bottom line: Obama and his fascist administration are out of control.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:00 am 70. DanRampage:I think vivo is ‘fishy’, so I reported him.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:00 am 71. Elena in Miami:Please put my name on the list too.
Take a look at these statistics:
Subject: Healthcare Comparison
A recent Investor’s Business Daily article provided some interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.
(England and Canada have government run healthcare)
% Men & Women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%
% Patients diagnosed with Diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%
% Seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%
% referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%
Number of MRI Scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per Million people
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18
% of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in “excellent health”
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%
This healthcare reform is an “OBAMANATION”.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:03 am 72. Pat J:It’s not an enemies list. They simply want to know who is misleading (lying to)the American people about healtchare so they can set the record straight.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:08 am 73. 'progressivewatch":Why is everyone dumping on our historic president? We have had several presidents who were born in a log cabin. He was the first who was born in a manger.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:17 am 74. Delia:I’m reporting 0bama and all of his cronies for misleading information regarding the health-care bill none of them read.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:24 am 75. John:This actually shows how the Obama staffers are more small-D democratic than the Republicans.
Nixon’s Enemies List was composed solely of elite high-profile liberals in key positions in the government or media. The Obama White House is attempting to create an all-inclusive list of people opposed to the government, where status or job title is not an issue — anyone from the biggest radio talk show hosts to the most lowly senior citizen with a hand-made sign can become part of the list. How much more democratic can you get than that?
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:25 am 76. EnemyoftheState:to flag@whitehouse.gov
date Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM
subject Information on criticism of obamacare
mailed-by gmail.com
Hey, I need to inform on myself. I have been going around telling people that it REALLY SUCKS that you are going to raise my taxes to pay for obamacare, while I’m going to be high on the list for euthanasia because I’m old and I’m a disabled veteran. I spent 26 years wearing a U.S. Air Force uniform in hot wars and cold wars because I had sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Two of those years I spent in the jungles of Southeast Asia trying to protect a couple of poor little countries from being taken over by communists.Ironically, now my own country has been taken over by communists. Do you really believe you can keep us down?
Here’s some jive talk for obama: during my productive lifetime I imagine I paid more taxes than obama ever will. My IQ is higher than his. My wife is much better looking than his. I smell better than he does. If obama wants to have a beer to talk about it, he can’t. I don’t drink. I’d love to share a pot of hemlock tea with him though.
If you wish to send a pair of thugs or agents to speak with me. I would recommend that they come escorted by a local uniformed police officer in a marked cruiser, during daylight hours and approach the front door only, for their safety.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:25 am 77. oldguy:Obama, Pelosi, Douglass, and all Democrats are Fishy.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:27 am 78. Mr Lucky:Pat J, Now and Then, jharp, and vivo: Is the site flag@whitehouse.gov a good thing or a bad thing?
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:30 am 79. tanstaafl:In many of the clips of Townhalls I’ve seen, condescension towards the people in the room literally oozes from the speaker, the DC Congresscritter. The other posture greatly in evidence is defensiveness from said Critter.
The current assumption underlying this government, a government that is, in principle, of, by and for the people, seems to be…
“These proles are too stupid to know what’s good for them.”
The democrat Congressman from New York, Tim Bishop, was one of the worst, yakking about the “indivisibleness” of our nation, in service to a President whose entire actual shtick relies on divisiveness.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:31 am 80. Dark Helmet:Stop it… all of you. All that matters is that we elected man who looks black.
obammy is a traitor.
REVOLUTION ( taking our capitol/capital back )
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:34 am 81. Paul of Alexandria:DanRampage (70):
A prime ACORN tactic is to overwhelm the system. A prime example being all of the obviously fake voter applications submitted just prior to the last election; the idea wasn’t necessarily to get “Mickey Mouse” in as a votor, it was to overwhelm the state officials and get “John Smith” in.
If everybody this site were to “report” 10 cartoon characters as suspicious we might just use their own tactics against them.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:35 am 82. AThinkingPerson:Re #72 Pat J: If they only wanted to know who was “misleading” (I call it lying) to the American public about healthcare, they need look no further than the Democratic Party.
Pat do you question why Congress voted down a bill that would force them to be on the same healthcare plan as they’re trying to put us on? Does that sound honest to you? I’ll put my tin-foil hat on and await your response.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:35 am 83. Anonymous:Re #73: LOL! That made my day!
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:37 am 84. Sherab Zangpo:By using the word FISHY, this administration has shown its true species-centric and racist colors !
Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:45 am 85. davidt:I am fishy.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:48 am 86. arhooley:Why vivo isn’t morto after this one is beyond me.
Report “casual conversations”? “Fishy”? THIS is Obama’s healing wisdom?
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:50 am 87. Paul from Hamburg:Pat J:
“It’s not an enemies list. They simply want to know who is misleading (lying to)the American people about healtchare so they can set the record straight.”
Oh, OK. Thanks for that clarification, although I am still a little confused. Why do they need help? Usually, once you know one e-mail address at a domain, you can figure out most of the rest. You know, remanuel@whitehouse.gov, ldouglas@whitehouse.gov, bobama@whitehouse.gov, etc.
Aug 7, 2009 - 9:55 am 88. tanstaafl:Yes, no individual in the United States Senate or House of Representatives would ever want to be lumped into the restrictions and parameters of Obamacare.
Heaven forbid ! …Teddy & Arlen would be judged too old & sick to be allowed to scour the country for the finest physicians available to keep them going.
Nor would Mrs. Robinson or anyone in Obama’s family/entourage be subject to any bubble gum popping, “end of life” counselor paying her a visit…(she’s Barry’s mother-in-law, lives in the White House, seems much nicer than her daughter…)
The double standards on “healthcare”, lavish waste & expenditure, wasteful generating of greenhouses gases, etc. are staggering.
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:03 am 89. Now and Then:I love Patriot Actors who defended wiretaps and data mining while shredding the Constitution, and did so saying, “Well, if you aren’t doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.”
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:12 am 90. tanstaafl:Well, now and then (now or never) Obama has, in fact, retained many of the “terrorist” surveillance techniques (including, but not limited to, wiretapping measures) developed during the Bush administration.
It is so helpful of you to dredge up old mush, just like, these days, Barry keeps defensively harping on the 1.3 trillion deficit he “inherited”, the one he has ridiculously and irresponsibly quadrupled.
adios for the nonce, chillins’
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:28 am 91. Robofish:Here’s one way to automatically route a growing daily stream of junk email to flag@whitehouse.gov:
1. Set up a special gmail account (mail.google.com) just for this purpose.
2. Under Settings/Forwarding and POP/IMAP, select “Forward a copy of incoming mail to”, then fill in flag@whitehouse.gov
3. Then sign up for a bunch of free, email-generating web services using the gmail email account.
4. Then tell your friends how they too can automate the revolution.
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:29 am 92. Sherab Zangpo:So now, reading our trolls, I have learned that dissent against obamacare is equal to islamic terrorism.
Interesting.
See # 89.
Now we can worry even more.
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:33 am 93. masstexodus:Good fish and medical care and send them one of the links. I sent them a link on a fish getting surgery. That is a pretty fish health care story!
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:35 am 94. Anonymous:Our oppressive administration is now calling on their union thugs to combat the average citizen’s right to speak out at their own townhall meetings.
Dear God, what the h*ll is Obama willing to do to silence dissent next?
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:46 am 95. homero:Pat J:
“It’s not an enemies list. They simply want to know who is misleading (lying to)the American people about healtchare so they can set the record straight.”
who’s lying about health care ????? The GOVERNMENT …obama and crowd. Pelosi and drones. they want to know who is opposed to them. that includes most of the posters here. ….not you vivo or blart or jharp (sorry if I forgot any of the other trolls)
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:49 am 96. Tom Holsinger:My father was a California Democratic Party apparchnik with a fairly wide background, including several years as the chief hatchetman for the most notorious California political boss in the past 50 years – Jesee Unruh. Pop’s last hurrah was plotting with then Clinton White House chief of staff Leon Panetta (who is now CIA Director) in December 1994 on the best way for the Clinton administration to exploit then California Governor Pete Wilson’s disastrous mistake in backing an anti-immigrant iniative in that year’s elections. Which Pop and Panetta completely succeeded in doing – by 1998 only one Republican held statewide office in California.
Pop hated Richard Nixon. Absolutely hated him.
My father’s biggest disappointment in life was that he never made Nixon’s enemies list, but his best friend, banker Ray Lapin (head of Ginnie Mae), did. And Ray never let Pop forget about it.
Aug 7, 2009 - 10:50 am 97. The Toad:I sent the following email to flag@whitehouse.gov yesterday afternoon:
“I must report myself as one who is 100% opposed to socialized medicine, Cap and Trade, lack of transparency in government, endless and mindless taxation, non-payment of taxes by numerous presidential appointees, constant demonization of private enterprise, criminal organizations like ACORN, and spying on fellow citizens (this website).
Furthermore, I take every opportunity to criticize this administration and its policies to my two Senators (Bingaman, Udall) and my Representative (Heinrich), and anyone else that will listen.
As a result of turning myself in to the Thought Police, I fully expect to be audited by the IRS. Funny thing about that – I do not make enough money to make it worth their while!”
I included my name. address and home/office telephone numbers.
I expect my door to be kicked in by jack-booted ACORN thugs in the middle of the night. (But I have an Ithica .16 gauge that works well).
Aug 7, 2009 - 11:00 am 98. zanne:So what is next? Fishy bonus bama bucks/premier healthcare points/tax credits/carbon credits for turning in fishy folks. This could get real interesting in a down economy.
Aug 7, 2009 - 11:03 am 99. Mike Sheard:I thought this group was tech-savvy? Could they not anticipate that this address would get spammed?
Clearly, the honeymoon is over (see approval ratings) and the teleprompter pres is falling apart with these desperate moves. If his policies are so great why can’t they stand criticisms?
Aug 7, 2009 - 11:27 am 100. Commuter:89. Now and Then:
I love Patriot Actors who defended wiretaps and data mining while shredding the Constitution…”
I doubt you’ve ever read the Constitution. Or if you have, understood it. It is a compact between the people and government that lays out the rights of the people, and the system, responsibilities, and limits of the government as a design to ensure those rights. Start with the preamble to the Bill of Rights, and then the Rights themselves, then apply them to a reading of the Articles. What you’ll find is that the Articles don’t just define the system, but also the limits of the federal government. Those limits have their footing in the Bill of Rights.
The Articles provide for the common defense. The previous administration spent time and effort ascertaining that the wiretaps and data mining did not overreach the Constitution. Your statemnent that they shredded it is specious and ignorant.
On the other hand, if anyone is intimidated into not expressing his or her right to free assembly and free speech by any use the current administration puts the information they are gathering at flag@whitehouse.gov to, the current administration has no validity according to the Constitution.
In a nutshell, one name submitted to Obama’s list, then passed on to one person who uses it to intimidate the first, a federal crime or crimes have been committed. If that crime is legally tracked to any direction from the president, he will be guilty of impeachable malfeasance in offense.
If that’s the case, you should hope for your boy’s sake that he has a smart enough Rose Rose Mary Woods type who can delete impeachable evidence tracking to the president. Tall order, I think. Lot tougher to do now than in the days of tape recorders for one. Your boy does not seem to surround himself with competent people for another.
Aug 7, 2009 - 11:38 am 101. Mephistopheles:Please, please, please: EVERYONE on this board, please send my name at least once to flag@whitehouse.gov
An American Patriot and Anti-Socialist
R Martin
Aug 7, 2009 - 11:54 am 102. karlinsync:I have a sure way to have members of Congress join the “mob” or “Brooks Brothers” troops in a shouting match against the Congress leadership. Make sure in the Health Plan that everyone of THEM must be INCLUDED and they cannot exempt themsleves out! Bet that would get them hollering and whooping! If they are not a subject to their insane health system, of course, they are going to sit back and tell us it’s a good plan. Their arrogrance is madding.
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:03 pm 103. Warpublican:Rick – don’t worry – you’re far t insignificant to warrent anyone’s anything list – except for maybe the list of lame bloggers who couldn’t earn a dime on the outside…
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:10 pm 104. The Shadow:Do you really think that Obama cares about any of the wingnuts? Wow – talk about delusions of grandure. I think the wingnuts should get as much publicity as possible. When the voters hear their paranoid fantasies, they will avoid their causes like the plague. The one thing they have raised to high art is name calling. If anyone disagrees with them they can’t marshall their arguments; so, they resort to gradeschool name calling – fascist, marxist socialist, thug, etc. You have to wonder if they behave like this with their family and neighbors. Is this paranoia confined to politics or does it infect the rest of their lives too. It would be an interesting study.
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:14 pm 105. Pat J:95. homero:
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:27 pm 106. mnewman:————–
Right. Because me and the posters you mentioned actually subscribe toward independent though instead of being ledby the nose by conservative idiots like Beck, Limpballs, and Hannity. We also refuse to behave like the gray-haired fascists at these town hall meetings.
I’ve copied and pasted some of Obama’s own misinformation (contradicting himself)into an email to the site. Careful what you wish for, Barry.
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:32 pm 107. Anonymous:Any guesses as to how long it will take before the Black Panthers show up at town hall meetings for “protection”? It seems they are now above the law so it shouldn’t be long.
The Obama administration will go down in history as the first time an administration turned on it’s own citizens. We all thought Carter was bad. We were so tragically wrong. Obama is much worse. We have much to fear now.
Aug 7, 2009 - 12:37 pm 108. AThinkingPerson:Pat J: Independent thought? LOL! You have done nothing but spout Obama’s talking points.
Just exactly when does that “independent thought” kick in?
I guess by your use of the term “fascists” (re 105) for citizens speaking out at townhall meetings, you’re not a proponent of free speech? Obama isn’t either apparently.
Aug 7, 2009 - 1:07 pm 109. frank grimes:i personaly love the idea of the snitch line…it reinforces the stereotype of ‘big brother’and,it makes the administration appear even weaker and more thin skinned than before.my heartfelt thanks to the statist control-freak who thought this up.
18.jack.
take a quote out of context:CHECK
blanket insults:CHECK
as usual,add nothing of substance to the conversation:DOUBLE CHECK
ok,you can run along now.
31.heh.
Aug 7, 2009 - 1:10 pm 110. Calvin Ball:An angry mob of fish with swastikas.
Are these guys on acid?
Aug 7, 2009 - 1:36 pm 111. Portnoy:I think I may be making the enimies list. I have a small blog. How small? 8 friends on Facebook read it. Its THAT small My VERY small blog has been getting several hits a day from http://www.house.gov. Seems someone there is keeping track of my postings.
See you in the gulag comrade! I’ll bring the stale bread.
Aug 7, 2009 - 1:56 pm 112. elvis:Sign me up. I want to be on the enemy list!
Aug 7, 2009 - 1:56 pm 113. John "birther" Samford:What economic rebound? A rebound would be unemployment down to 4.5% and the Dow back to 13,000. What we have here is a leveling off, just like the one in April.
In May, as all the Socialists said the depression was ending, I pointed out that it wasn’t. ALL depressions follow the same pattern. Now if that pattern is created by government programs trying to halt the depression or if it is a natural one is still open to debate.
What is not open to debate is the pattern itself. The indicators go down, then level off, then go down again, then level off, then go down again, etc. IIRC between 1929 and 1942 there were about 8 of these cycles. Each one was worse then the one before. What gave the Socialists in charge ( FDR and his Communist buddies) hope was that the leveling out periods were longer between the crashes. The same with the German, French and British versions.
Eventually, all the nations economies were cured by WW2. 200 million dead is a high price to pay for a cure.
Since I predicted this leveling out in May, let me predict the next crash cycle starting in September. I base that on the Usurper holding on to the July economic data thru August, since that data is so bad it will push the market into another slid. By law the Administration was supposed to have released the data last week. But we already know what the Usurper thinks about the Law.
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:24 pm 114. Charles M. Sakai:Barring war, this depression will continue well into the next decade. Maybe even until 2025 or so.
Rick, I hear you! I turned your name in to Obama’s snitch line, along with a copy of this article. The list you join is long and distinguished and includes celebrated conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh and his brother David, Sean Hannity, Chuck Norris, Dr. Charles Krauthammer, and many others. Since Chicago politicians graciously allow the dead to vote [as long as it's for the Democrat], I included names such as William F. Buckley, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, etc. There are even uber-liberals such as Keith Olbermann, Supreme Court Justice Sonya Sotomayor, and the entire staff of the New York Times. When facts are unimportant, imagination has a chance to kick in.
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:25 pm 115. Alana:Chris @5: Love it!
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:47 pm 116. myth buster:The U-3 unemployment rate didn’t drop at all in July. What dropped by .1 percentage points was the SEASONALLY ADJUSTED U-3 unemployment rate. The non-seasonally adjusted U-3 unemployment was unchanged from June at 9.6%. The U-6 unemployment rate, which includes everyone who has given up looking for work or taken part time work when they want full time was unchanged at 16.8% (not seasonally adjusted).
Aug 7, 2009 - 4:58 pm 117. jdm:“[...] wingnuts [...] delusions of grandure [...] wingnuts [...] paranoid [...] The one thing they have raised to high art is name calling.”
Yep. Learned it from the best.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:07 pm 118. myth buster:Source for unemployment statistics: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:09 pm 119. Pat J:108. AThinkingPerson:
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I have no problem with free speech. I have a problem with rude behavior. And by independent thought? I make my own decisions based on critical thought. Universal health care is going to benefit everyone, including you Thinker.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:15 pm 120. Calvin Ball:Yyyyyyyyeah.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:46 pm 121. Anonymous:“Furcht und Elend des Dritten Reiches” (Fear and Misery of the Third Reich) – 1930-s stageplay by Bertolt Brecht, much of its odiousness being the “drama” of some neighbors upon denouncing someone (who was quickly arrested by the Gestapo) for listening to “fishy” foreign radio stations.
Then we had the Goulags, then we had the Stasi, then we had all the repressive apparatus of people reporting “fishy” occurrences around in entire Eastern Europe, then the Ton-Ton Macoutes… then, we have the MoveOnOrg, the ACORN, the ACLU, the Southern Poverty, the Daily Kos, and all other American progressive organizations and individuals.
Are there still people around who doubt that Obama, if given the opportunity wouldn’t lift constitutional freedoms, establish reeducation camps around and pursue an open-ended term of Luminous Leader in USA?
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:49 pm 122. Sebastian Shaw:“Universal health care is going to benefit everyone.”–Pat J.
Universal health care will not include President Obama, Nanacy Pelosi, Senator Harry Reid, & the many other politicians in Washington DC; in fact, a Republican tried to put an amendment to include the other politicians, but the Democrat Senators voted against it this week. Why, if universal health care is the anodyne your speak of Pat that our own Democrat Senators voted against this amendment?
My point is not everyone is going to be covered by universal health care: The politicians will retain their ability to choose their own health care as they try their best to take away our choices with the horrible public option.
Try it again with the Utopian fantasy Pat. All I see is a universal nightmare in universal health care. I don’t want some snotty clueless politicians to have the power to of life & death over my loved ones. I want to make my own decisions of my health care. The politicians need to get the hell out of it.
Aug 7, 2009 - 5:57 pm 123. misanthopicus:“Furcht und Elend des Dritten Reiches”/(German: Fear and Misery of the Third Reich) – 1930-s stage play by Bertold Brecht; one of the plots: a family denounces a neighbor for listening to “fishy” foreign radio stations, neighbor rapidly arrested by the Gestapo.
Then, we had the Russian purges and the Goulags, then the Stasi, then the snitching apparatus reporting fishy, occurrences in all Eastern Europe, then the Toton Macoutes, then… then the MoveOnOrg, the ACORN, the ACLU, the Southern Law, the Daily Kos, and other progressive organizations and idividuals across America ready to inflict progress around at any price. (After all, aren’t the American progressives responding to Hitler’s call: “Progressives, I free you of that chymera the bourgeoisie names conscience!”)
Are there still people around who think that Obama, if given the opportunity, wouldn’t suspend the constitution, establish reeducation camps, and march ahead on an open-ended career of Luminous leader in America?
Strange times indeed – remind me the raise of the 3rd. Reich.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:01 pm 124. Reiuxcat:119. Pat J
How is universal health care going to benefit all?
How is it going to be paid for?
I’ll await your reply. Please include some specifics.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:05 pm 125. Disciple of Teh One:Ya dumb wingnuts. Here’s how O-care is going to help. It’s going to help us all by getting rid of the eggplants and the cletuses. We don’t need no dumb junglebunnies or hillbillies. And we sure don’t need no retards or cripples. Or grampas. We’re gonna save the cost of em all. Capiche?
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:25 pm 126. myth buster:One of the trolls asked why we care that Congress won’t be a part of the public option. Answer: if you suspect the man serving you dinner may have poisoned it, his willingness to taste it in front of you will assuage those fears, and his refusal to taste it will serve to confirm them.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:32 pm 127. Lucid:We should all forward videos of Obama’s & Pelosi’s numerous untrue and disingenuous statements about their health care proposals to the White House’s Fishy site for disinformaton. They are the ones who have been repeatedly telling the big lies. We can sign our names big and call it the John hancock Project.
It is so characteristic of Obama to accuse his opponents of doing EXACTLY what he is doing himself.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:33 pm 128. trigeek:Pat J- “I have no problem with free speech. I have a problem with rude behavior. And by independent thought? I make my own decisions based on critical thought. Universal health care is going to benefit everyone, including you Thinker.”
Okay Pat J- So you were upset by all the liberals yelling and screaming (Code Pink etc…)whenever Bush officials were speaking? The left has always been much more rude. All the protest you see with cars being overturned and burned, that is the left. The left busses protesters in and it is call grassroots. The right has individuals speaking out for their own rights, and that is called a conspiracy. Please explain.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:39 pm 129. jsallison:I kept my email simple:
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:41 pm 130. Jeffrey:“I am Spartacus.”
Pat can’t say without confessing that it’s a second hander scheme to take from those who have earned it and forcefully give it to those who have not earned it. The health care scam will also take away the care most people are happy with, that is undisputable and every evidence in the world verifies it. So the minority is tryimg to control the vast majority. A few loudmouth thugs trying to steal all they can get before they run out of town on a rail.
Aug 7, 2009 - 6:59 pm 131. elvis:The big blowhards in the white house are barking dogs and they are afraid, thats why they are barking. We outnumber them 10,000 to 1.
This is nothing but trying to control every aspect of my life. Send that disinformation to the snitches at the White House… flag@whitehouse .gov ! I’ll be glad to be on their enemies list!
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:11 pm 132. Theo Goodwin:It turns out that the administration’s solicitation of snitches is doubly illegal, as Fox News explains:
The White House strategy of turning supporters into snitches when they see “fishy” information about the health care debate may run afoul of the law, legal experts say.
“The White House is in bit of a conundrum because of this privacy statute that prohibits the White House from collecting data and storing it on people who disagree with it,” Judge Andrew Napolitano, a FOX News analyst, said Friday.
“There’s also a statute that requires the White House to retain all communications that it receives. It can’t try to rewrite history by pretending it didn’t receive anything,” he said.
“If the White House deletes anything, it violates one statute. If the White House collects data on the free speech, it violates another statute.”
Napolitano was referring to the Privacy Act of 1974, which was passed after the Nixon administration used federal agencies to illegally investigate individuals for political purposes. Enacted after Richard Nixon’s resignation in the Watergate scandal, the statute generally prohibits any federal agency from maintaining records on individuals exercising their right to free speech.
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:12 pm 133. Moogie:Dear American Patriot:
As your Prezz, I am upset that people aren’t agreeing with me. In fact, I am annoyed and my feelings are very hurt. But mostly I am just mad at the big meanies.
If you want to prove that you’re really my bff, I want you to start tattling. I want you to tattle on every little ratfink who says something mean about me. It doesn’t matter if they’re lying or not, just tattle.
I am starting my own brigade, called “The Tattle Tale Brigade.” Only my bffs can be on my brigade. We’re meeting in the treehouse and you’ll have to take a blood oath, then spit. I even have matching brown shirts you can wear – but they’re only for my bffs who are my very bestest friends.
We’re gonna show those meanies a thing or two.
From,
Aug 7, 2009 - 8:39 pm 134. paul_unalaska:The Prezz
The Shadow it’s grandEUR. Spelling it correctly really emphasizes you know the meaning and message you’re attempting to convey.
What I really dig though is your attempt at playing the ‘moral high ground’ ‘..they resort to gradeschool name calling – fascist, marxist socialist, thug,..’
You opened your temper tantrum ‘wingnuts’ Psst, that’s name calling. Yes I’m sure!
fascist – System of Government characterized by extreme dictatorship – Government takeover of auto, banking, home & loans, attempting health care in less than 6 months.. what do you think?
marxist – From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. Spread the wealth around. The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses. – These sound familiar?
Stalin and Trotsky had a similar ideology regarding Socialism. Though Stalin succeeded in power when Lenin died. You know what happened to Trotsky? He was forced to leave. It’s similar in today’s political climate. Whereas Democrats and Republicans still incorporate the ‘temporary ally’ approach. Or threatening tones to their own colleagues.
The following is from Sen Sherrod Brown – D Ohio regarding fellow Democrats taking a risk if defying their party’s majority:
“I don’t think there’s any Democrat, on a procedural vote, who wants to be on the wrong side of history,” he said. “I think, in the end, there will also be a handful of Republicans who don’t want to be on the wrong side of history.”
thugs – you needn’t look any further than the SEIU across the country this past week.
Aug 7, 2009 - 11:56 pm 135. Libertyship46:People tend to forget that the American Revolution was only supported by about one third of the public. Another third were “Loyalists,” or loyal to the King of England, and the remianing third were neutral. Yet that rebellious third managed to secure independance for this nation and create perhaps the best democracy ever invented by mankind. The Founding Fathers would have been ashamed of this generation if we shirked our duties to stand up to this form of tyranny. It is up to us, this patriotic one third, to stand up and say that what is happening here with the Obama administration is wrong and illegal and that we will not accept it. And, hopefully, we will convince that neutral third of the nation to support us in electing other people in 2010 and 2012, people who actually believe in the Constitution, and don’t just think it’s some quaint little document that belongs on some dusty shelf in a library somewhere. Stand up, America. Go to your local town hall meetings, write to your representatives (or, better yet, call them), and use the freedoms you have to get these thugs out of office.
Does that get me on the list?
Aug 8, 2009 - 4:39 am 136. tanstaafl:Dissent the highest form of patriotism ?
Ha ! Your President wants you to STFU…
Shut up, America !
(In fact, in the who-works-for-whom conundrum, for so many of the DC types I’ve seen on tape, their assumption is that they know better for you than you know for yourself. Condescension oozes from their pores…)
Aug 8, 2009 - 6:53 am 137. Sebastian Shaw:I keep bombarding the White House with large pictures of sharks to go with the “fishy” theme with the flag@whitehouse.gov e-mail; pictures take up lots of memory. I also would recommend using the flag@whitehouse.gov e-mail on a g-mail account such as Google, Yahoo, etc al to bombard the White House with spam.
Aug 8, 2009 - 6:54 am 138. tanstaafl:Reportedly, in a bill passed in the 70’s, post Nixon/Watergate, the White House is required to keep every single missive it receives.
That means Linda Douglass, Big Bertha, the matching twin of Big Sis Janet Napolitano, can’t throw out the shopping lists, forwarded junque mail, lists of household chores or whatever else might be sent to the “fishy” email address.
Aug 8, 2009 - 7:25 am 139. Bill:I wimped out and reported myself. Now I look everywhere in fear The Man will snatch me at any moment. Help!
Aug 8, 2009 - 10:13 am 140. JU:My friends and I have a list serve wherein we discuss, argue, and sarcastic our way through political discourse. We have added big brother to our emails.
Aug 8, 2009 - 11:20 am 141. Sebastian Shaw:Free coupons on the internet is a good way to get spam, despite the spam filter, provided one uses the e-mail address to bypass the filter…
Aug 8, 2009 - 2:19 pm 142. AThinkingPerson:Re Pat J: Universal healthcare will NOT benefit me. Don’t hasten to paint me with your liberal/socialist brush. If it’s Social Security you’re referring to, I have PAID into that for years thank you very much. If it’s Medicare you’re referring to, my company has my health care plan well in hand until my twilight years UNLESS Obama’s plan goes through and then YOU will be paying for my healthcare.
How thick can one person be?
As for your comment that you dislike “rude behavior” from the protestors. Yeah right. Did Pelosi’s “swastiska” comment offend you? Did Obama’s calling the police officer stupid offend you? We all already know your answer unfortunately. Only average citizens speaking out against an oppressive regime offends you.
Aug 8, 2009 - 6:14 pm 143. Lynn B:I turned in the SEIU for their “fishy” physically unhealthy acts of violence. Pelosi too for the unhealthy spreading of disinformation of opponents to Obamacare. I also turned myself in, I’ve been on the government sh88list for years anyway, why change it now.
Aug 8, 2009 - 6:39 pm 144. Lynn B:Message to Bill@ #139
Not to worry. Unless you plan to apply for one of the gov jobs, you’ll be fine.
#136 tanstaafl
Aug 8, 2009 - 6:52 pm 145. Leonard Hamm:Andrea Mitchell said the same thing “People just don’t understand the bill and what is good for them” As if….
I can’t stand the suspense. I just turned myself in. This is my e-mail.
How can you justify this? Encouraging citizens to inform on each other? Really? What happened to the “patriotism of dissent” argument used before the last election? I disagree with the scatter shot approach you have taken to Health care, and the rush to pass legislation. I’ve not been spreading misinformation, but you may as well add me to your list.
Len Hamm
Aug 8, 2009 - 7:35 pm 146. joe:lenhamm@gmail.com
I thought that I better report this e-mail to flag@whitehouse.gov, as it seems to mock the proposed health plan.
In other words, it seems fishy.
> Subject: AMA WEIGHS IN
Aug 8, 2009 - 8:56 pm 147. Warren Bonesteel:>
> Apparently the American Medical Association has weighed in on the new health care plan …
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> The Allergists voted to scratch it, but the Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves.
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> The Gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it, but the Neurologists thought the Administration had a lot of nerve.
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> The Obstetricians felt they were all laboring under a misconception.
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> Ophthalmologists considered the idea shortsighted.
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> Pathologists yelled, “Over my dead body!” while the Pediatricians said, ‘Oh, grow up!’
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> The Psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness, while the Radiologists could see right through it.
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> Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing.
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> The Internists thought it was a bitter pill to swallow, and the Plastic Surgeons aid, “This puts a whole new face on the matter.”
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> The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the Urologists were pissed off at the whole idea.
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> The Anesthesiologists thought the idea was a gas, and the Cardiologists didn’t have the heart to say no.
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> In the end, the Proctologists won out … leaving the entire decision up to the a–holes in Washington!!!
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I’ll give ya clue, Rick. If you haven’t had a visit from your County Sheriff or from the SS, you’re probably not doing it right.
Just sayin’. That whole gettin’ on the government’s Enemies List thingy is easy. These days, anyway. It used to take some time and effort…
I was on their list before, but I finally got a visit from the county sheriff’s office by tellin’ a few of the inimitable “PTB” that if they didn’t change their ways, that this whole business could only end in disaster. From a study of history, the outcomes are as inevitable as the tides and that they were going to induce a ’shock and awe’ event of their own creation.
a few days afterwards…
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“Knock. Knock.”
Uh…who’s there? Oh. It’s you. How can I help you gentlemen?
(Two rather large young men wearing badges, civilian clothes… and mostly empty combat harnesses.)
…later, while we were all standing outside on my deck…
“Mr. Bonesteel, are you now or have you ever made a threat against anyone in the government?”
Nope.
“You said, lemme see…you said something about ’shock and awe’…”
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Yeah. Really. About three weeks ago, now.
Political intimidation by our elected leaders, a complaint apparently filed by both Republicans and Democrats from state legislatures and from D.C.. I’m obviously not in jail awaiting trial…
Yes, it really happened, although the conversation related above lasted a bit longer and isn’t verbatim…
Aug 8, 2009 - 11:21 pm 148. vivo:I pay a compliment and everybody thinks is a great piece of literature. Thanks guys.
Aug 9, 2009 - 2:47 am 149. Kriska:Joe @#146
That was a good one! Had to copy/paste/send to my Lib “friend” with the “flag” link. I’m sure I’m on the list now!
Aug 9, 2009 - 12:51 pm 150. steveg:Linda Douglass is one of thirteen individuals from the so called mainstream media now working for the White House. As far as I’m concerned, the MSM is on my enemies list.
Aug 9, 2009 - 2:32 pm 151. recovering Dem:Hope and Change!
More like Change, then hope.
Aug 11, 2009 - 6:55 pm