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An Interview with Muslim Brotherhood’s #2, Mohammed Habib

The next leader of Egypt's banned extremist Islamic group talks about Barack Obama, CAIR, and why he feels misunderstood.

August 24, 2008 - by "Sandmonkey"
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SM: Why do you think that is?

Mohamed Habib: There are two parts to that. The first part is related to the tyrannical and oppressive regimes in our countries, that try to project a mental image (a really scary and horrifying image) in the minds of the western world that we are against democracy, and freedom, and human rights in general. The other part is the Zionist-American project that upholds double standards and has a special agenda that contradict the interests of our Ummah, and thus finds in the Muslim Brotherhood an obstacle in the way of executing that agenda. Therefore, they unfortunately promote a very wrong and negative image of us. This forces us to act and try to communicate with think tanks and research centers, academics in universities, the people, and the media, whether the local or the international one.

SM: Fine, but we can claim that the Egyptian media is controlled by the Egyptian government, while the western media is not controlled by the western governments. What’s stopping the right image of you to reach the world then? Are they conspiring against you?

Mohamed Habib: No, but naturally there are centers in the U.S. and Europe that carry out the agenda of the U.S. government. But there is also an independent media that has a role in educating the populace, and thus improve our image in their minds.

SM: Is there a Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S.?

Mohamed Habib: I would say yes. There are Muslim Brotherhood members there.

SM: Then what are they doing there?

Mohamed Habib: No, there are already existing institutions; there are laws and a constitution that they operate under in order to have a role in serving the American society. They are part of the American society and they want to an active positive role in it, and a part of that is to spread a positive image of Islam along with its values, culture, history and teachings.

SM: This is naturally very important. Who represents you in the US?

Mohamed Habib: Well, there are there those who do represent us, who do that role.

SM: But it’s not CAIR, right? The Council for American Islamic Relations? Many people say that they are your front. Other people say that its ISNA. But back to CAIR, some people from the Muslim Brotherhood have denied having a connection with CAIR. Do they really represent you?

Mohamed Habib: Ehh, this is a sensitive subject, and it’s kind of problematic, especially after 9/11 …

SM: For them to say that there is a relationship between you two?

Mohamed Habib: Yes. You can say that.

SM: Gotcha. What kind of relationship does the Muslim Brotherhood have with Hamas? Do you offer them support of any kind?

Mohamed Habib: Hamas, like any Muslim Brotherhood entity, is not related to the other entities. But we do support them. We support them with ideas. We support them with advice and vision. We incite the people — in Egypt for example — to donate money and care and understand about the Palestinian cause. Then the civil society institutions carry out the role of facilitators of our support.

SM: Thank you for your time sir.

Mohamed Habib: Thank you.

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35 Comments

1. Cletus:

blah blah blah, blame America

Aug 24, 2008 - 3:56 am 2. DoktorNo:

Thank you for this interview.

These guys are delusional, unarmed, and dangerous.

The last line about Hamas, “not related [to us]“, “but we support them” is priceless.

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:41 am 3. Don:

With such an erudite, impassioned and (obviously) flexible leader perhaps it is time that the Jewish State and the Religious of Sunni Islam form a confederation of believers, with the sword of Yahweh and Allah they could establish a synergy that would expunge the apostate from the region and the world . . . Think of the power! With the might of the IDF combined with the fanaticism of the most dedicated of Sunni Islam what entity could stand against them? Iran? Yesterdays news, I’manutjahb would scurry to his masters in Moscow for protection. The Brotherhood, the Sunni of Hamas, the Palistinians in general are relatively powerless and are as flies to the excrement given them by their “friends” the Saudis and Iranians, why be a tool when you can be a toolmaker?

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:26 am 4. Patrick Poole:

Sandmonkey,

Thank you for putting the hard questions to the Muslim Brotherhood that the Western media refuses to ask. While Habib was no more honest with you than they are with anyone else, they typically get a free pass on questions about their hand in the genocide in Sudan, their open support for terrorism, and their subversive activity in the West. Perhaps in your next interview you can ask about Mahdi Akef’s statements about Osama bin Laden as a “great mujahid” and the recent admission by Abdul Sattar al Maliji that the Ikhwan has revived their terrorist “secret apparatus”.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:06 am 5. harry:

SSDD. Yawn.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:44 am 6. harry:

Don, liars are not flexible they are liars.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:45 am 7. bill-tb:

Terrorists of the world support Barrack Hussein Obama, I wonder why is that?

Aug 24, 2008 - 8:30 am 8. Don:

Moral flexibility is it’s truest form, Mr Obama is an expert, that is why he is the best candidate to appeal to those with the same dedication to “truths”

Aug 24, 2008 - 8:44 am 9. Muslim Brotherhood’s #2 Man Talks (Carefully) About Obama, CAIR « LGF II: Charles and Killgore Free Footballs:

[...] Muslim Brotherhood’s #2 Man Talks (Carefully) About Obama, CAIR August 24, 2008 — Rodan At PJ Media, the Egyptian Sandmonkey has an interesting interview with the man in line to become the next “Supreme Leader” of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammed Habib. [...]

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:30 am 10. tanstaafl:

Let’s see…excuse making for al-Bashir/Darfur.

No mention of the slaughter carried out by the Muslim janjaweed, under al-Bashir’s direction.

It’s all an American plot (if not American, then “Zionist”)

The Muslim Brotherhood wants nothing but peace and justice in Egypt (right…)

As for ties with the MB in the United States, well, Mr. Habib doesn’t want to get too specific about that…

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:41 am 11. marybeth:

It’s interesting how he thinks that McCain is how he presents himself but that Obama may be just saying and doing what he has to to win the election.

Aug 24, 2008 - 12:03 pm 12. venividivici:

The hardest part of the interview must have been keeping a straight face when this d-bag was talking.

But there is also an independent media that has a role in educating the populace, and thus improve our image in their minds.

Once a Westerner gets beyond the banal superficialities of Islam (”Islam means ‘peace’ and “There is no compulsion in religion”-type stuff), there is nothing appealing in Islam whatsoever. To a mind steeped in secular law and democracy, Islam is utter garbage. I’ve read matchbook covers more interesting and profound than anything Islam has to offer me.

Aug 24, 2008 - 12:50 pm 13. meaux:

Typical. Idiot. PBUH

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Aug 24, 2008 - 1:46 pm 14. Judy, NYC:

these crazy muslim bastards murdered egyptian peacemaker, sadat. they strive for nothing more than to eliminate those among them with a developed brain. developed societies also annoy them. i’ll tell you what. let’s cut out their tongues and chop off their heads, and videotape it. but then, as they say in the tv movies, we’d be just like them. yeah, but just for a little while.

Aug 24, 2008 - 1:53 pm 15. sheik yer'mami:

“…the creation of a society that values justice, equality, and freedom..”
BS from beginning to end. “Justice” for the Muhammedan means sharia, which is a nightmare for everybody. ‘Equality’ means some kind of communism, and ‘freedom’ for the Muhammedan means dominance of Islam and the total subjugation of unbelievers along with their enslavement.

We cannot coexist.

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:44 pm 16. Michael Lonie:

He’s right that Mubarak’s government is incompetent, authoritarian and oppressive, but there is no evidence that a government by the Muslim Brotherhood would be any better. If you look at how the radical Islamic regimes have ruled when they get the chance to rule by “true Islam” they are as bad as the secular tyrants of the Arab and other Muslim states. In Iran the Ayatollahs are worse than the Shah’s government was, more oppressive and more murderous. In Gaza a lot of the people would prefer to have the Israelis back; practically the only ones who support the Hamas government are those making a good thing off Hamas’ muderous tyranny. The Taliban in Afghanistan were so oppressive and murderous that practically the entire country was overcome with joy at their overthrow. In cities of Iraq like Fallujah where local Islamist terrorist groups set up their rule they were every bit as bad as Saddam for torture, oppression and murder, and enforced their idiotic vision of “true Islam”, such as no smoking, by bloody means. So what does political Islam promise Muslims? A new jahiliyya.

Habib can’t even bring himself to dissociate himself and his group from a genocidal loon like Bashir who is massacring Muslims. I guess he thinks that the Arabs are the Master Race and can slaughter black Africans with impunity. Plus he blames the problems on an American search for Sudan’s resources, oblivious, one must assume, to the fact that it is actually China that is there seeking them. In his paranoid fixation on a nonexistent American Imperialism he is disregarding a new Imperialism stretching its tentacles into Africa and the Middle East. But the Arabs were equally blind to Soviet Imperialism for the same reason, showing us how the curent crop of Arab extremists is the proper descendent of the last crop, the Pan-Arab Nationalists, who caused such ruin to their countries. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

As for the slanders against the USA, they are fantasies and lies. The US is just about the only state in the world that was prepared to risk blood and treasure to protect Muslims against their enemies (others did so only under American leadership), including non-Muslim states as well as Muslims (like Saddam) who acted as the enemies of their fellow Muslims. So, far from being hostile to Islam, the USA has actually protected Islam and Muslims.

Mohammed Habib is angry about the US supporting Israel, since that prevents the Muslims from carrying out their hearts’ desire, a renewed genocide of the Jews. Tough. Get used to disappointment.

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:02 pm 17. Omar:

Sheik:

What’s up with the website?

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:13 pm 18. Javelin:

Peace freedom, democracy and prosperity, as long as you are Sunni Muslim Male fanatic, all others are subjects of the master sect.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:28 pm 19. kender:

wow….I thought muslims were scripturally barred from using such mind altering substances. Whatever he is smoking must be ultra pure hot house grown A-1 stuff….

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:23 pm 20. BMoon:

I am confident most PJM readers are familiar with the Nazfascist roots of the Muslim Brotherhood. If so, then this statement in the interview becomes quite clear as to its intentions and ideology:

“The Muslim Brotherhood has an Islamic, civilized, uplifting project that is based on the idea that Egypt needs to rise again to greatness, because in its rise it will uplift the entire Arab world with it.”

Just substitute the word “German” for “Arab” and you’ll get it.

The rest of habib’s ramble favoring democracy is too painfully obvious. As long as neo-fascists think they can win with votes, it is fine with them to impose their fascist plans that way. If not with a majority, as the Nazi Party achieved, then violence is just fine too.

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:37 pm 21. boazhorribilis:

Culturally and psychologically, Islam shares little if anything at all with the modern Western civilization. But in spite of its imperfections, the West is the model followed from Beijing to Buenos Aires.Their repeated mantra that Islam is the path while the rest are corrupt is for domestic consumption since in the West this idea is totally discredited. And if all arguments fail, just lie. It is ok to do so, it is just another tactic on the road to an Islamic future.

Aug 25, 2008 - 12:39 am 22. Patriots and Liberty » Blog Archive » Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Confirms Existence of US Muslim Brotherhood:

[...] the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Egyptian Brotherhood. According to the interview: Read More http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.968/pub_detail.asp This entry [...]

Aug 25, 2008 - 5:48 am 23. purpleslog:

Is there a URL for Part 1?

Aug 25, 2008 - 8:53 am 24. CAIR is the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood front « PurpleSlog:

[...] is the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood front From Pajamasmedia: SM: Is there a Muslim Brotherhood in the [...]

Aug 25, 2008 - 9:35 am 25. b shah:

…”This of course requires the creation of a society that values justice, equality, and freedom, and what that entails in regards to respecting the will of the people in choosing their representatives or leaders; and also what that entails in regards to having really independent judicial and legislative branches of government…”

If I hadn’t read the rest of the article. I would have thought he was talking to USA and most democracies :)

What this guy wants is USA, in an Islamic mould. If the current politically correct attitudes continue, he may have his way.

Aug 25, 2008 - 10:47 am 26. Shariah Finance Watch » Blog Archive » Muslim Brotherhood leader confirms presence in the U.S.:

[...] Pajamas Media [...]

Aug 25, 2008 - 10:51 am 27. Believer:

The Islamic Society of North America’s president addressed the Dems’ Convention earlier and received a standing ovation.

With ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, the ISNA got its start with the help of Sami Al-Arian.

atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com has more information on this group.

Aug 25, 2008 - 2:50 pm 28. Judy, NYC:

i know. the dems actually invited ingrid mattson, the president of the isna, to speak. she is an islamic fascist and virulent anti-semite and calls for jews to be murdered. i posted this on the nytimes krugman blog today, but obama’s zombies, all 500, showed not even a shard of interest.

Aug 25, 2008 - 3:20 pm 29. MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD LEADER= CONFIRMS PRESENCE IN THE USA! « uk1884:

[...] Pajamas Media [...]

Aug 26, 2008 - 3:50 am 30. MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD LEADER- CONFIRMS PRESENCE IN THE USA- NOW - GOD HELP AMERICA!! « Centurean2’s Weblog:

[...] Pajamas Media [...]

Aug 26, 2008 - 3:55 am 31. Homeland Security Updates » Blog Archive » Surprisingly Candid Answers From the Muslim Brotherhood:

[...] watch. The source this time? Mohammed Habib, the second-in-command of the Muslim Brotherhood. In an interview published by Pajamas Media, the Brotherood’s Deputy Supreme Guide acknowledges the connection [...]

Aug 27, 2008 - 8:28 am 32. MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD’S TALKS [CAREFULLY] ABOUT OBAMA,CAIR « uk1884:

[...] At PJ Media, the Egyptian Sandmonkey has an interesting interview with the man in line to become the next “Supreme Leader” of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammed Habib. [...]

Aug 28, 2008 - 3:05 am 33. MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD-TALKS [CAREFULLY]ABOUT OBAMA RE JEWS.. « Centurean2’s Weblog:

[...] At PJ Media, the Egyptian Sandmonkey has an interesting interview with the man in line to become the next “Supreme Leader” of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammed Habib. [...]

Aug 28, 2008 - 3:13 am 34. ACT! for America Palm Springs » Blog Archive » Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Confirms Existence of U.S. Brotherhood and Relationship with CAIR:

[...] the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Egyptian Brotherhood. According to the interview:   SM: Is there a Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S.?   Mohamed Habib: I would say yes. There are [...]

Sep 1, 2008 - 1:46 pm 35. Note to CAIR: Your Islamism Is Showing « Jay Keating’s 2008 Weblog:

[...] a new caliphate and serves as the grandfather of multiple terrorist groups. During a revealing interview posted at Pajamas Media, Habib let the mask slip on CAIR’s ties to his [...]

Sep 29, 2008 - 11:43 am

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