Pajamas Media

18 Comments

1. David Mathews:

Robert KKK Spencer is a classic American bigot. He wants to provoke a religious war between Christianity and Islam. He spreads all sorts of slanders, lies, bigotry and hatred against Muslims.

Robert Spencer’s followers want to trample on the Constitution so that they may trample upon the civil rights of American Muslims. They would deny American citizens Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech simply because they are Muslim.

Robert Spencer’s followers include such luminaries of American bigotry as Tom Tancredo (”nuclear bombs on Mecca and Medina!”), Ann Coulter (”kill Muslims leaders and convrt the Muslims to Christianity”) and Michelle Malkin (”Internment camps were great! Let’s put all of the Muslims into concentration camps!”).

If you visit Robert Spencer’s blog and other like-minded blogs (such as Townhall.com) you will discover that many of his followers are warmongers who wish to commit genocide against the Muslims. They would kill 1,000,000,000 Muslims as vengeance against 9/11.

I am an American and a Christian and I find people such as Robert Spencer reprehensible. I see American Muslims on a daily basis and they do not deserve abuse from Robert Spencer or anyone else.

Those who want peace live peacefully. All of this hatred against Islam is meant to provoke Americans to commit further acts of aggressive war and other atrocities against the Muslim world.

Aug 21, 2007 - 12:04 pm 2. Mo:

Mr. Mathews -
Please provide evidence of the ’slanders, lies, bigotry and hatred against Muslims’ that Mr. Spencer has spread.

Aug 21, 2007 - 2:08 pm 3. JihadSpinAdmin:

Mr. Mattews, could you please show us some proof that Mr. Spencer is calling for the “genocide against Muslims” and for that matter you can add Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin to that list of proof. I have read most every thing Mr. Spencer has written on islam and he has NEVER called for the killing of any one let alone muslims. Maybe instead of telling lies about other people, you should read the qur’an and sunnah your self and do a real hard study of islam. Maybe then, you will understand the force driving the “terrorists” and why THEY want to kill or convert us.

Aug 21, 2007 - 2:52 pm 4. David Thomson:

I have also read a lot of the writings of Robert Spencer—including his most recent book. He is not a bigot, nor does he advocate the murder and discrimination of Muslims. As matter of fact, Spencer is a very careful author who argues in a precise and balanced manner. David Matthews might be well meaning, but his criticisms are slanderous and without merit.

Aug 21, 2007 - 4:48 pm 5. David Mathews:

Hello Everyone,

Robert Spencer’s followers repeatedly and explicitly declare their desire to:

* Fight wars against Islam

* Commit genocide against Muslims

* Deny religious freedom to American citizens who are Muslim

* Deny freedom of speech to American citizens who are Muslim

* Deny citizenship to Americans who are Muslim

* Confine American Muslims in Concentration / Internment camps

* Use force to convert Muslims to Christianity

* Nuclear bomb Mecca and Medina

These are the things that Robert Spencer’s followers express on a daily basis on his blog and other like-minded prejudice rags located on the internet.

Aug 21, 2007 - 5:14 pm 6. David Mathews:

Hello (Christian) Jihad,

> Maybe instead of telling lies about other people, you should read the qur’an

I have read the Qur’an, sir. I read it a long time ago, long before 9/11.

I have also read the Bible. Would you like to compare the two?

We can play a little game: For every violent verse you find in the Qur’an, I will find a violent verse in the Bible.

This is a little contest which I offer to all ignorant, illiterate bigots.

Would you care to play this little game?

Aug 21, 2007 - 5:18 pm 7. David Mathews:

Hello Mo,

> Please provide evidence of the ’slanders, lies, bigotry and hatred against Muslims’ that Mr. Spencer has spread

Do you really want me to do this?

If I do it, I will have to say some really terrible things about Robert KKK Spencer.

I will have to reveal his true character. I will have to speak about his middle name and how it wears “KKK” so very well.

If you want to know the truth, I consider Robert KKK Spencer the Western equivalent of Osama Bin Laden.

Bloodthirsty warmongers filled with hate and religious prejudice have a whole bunch in common even if one is hiding in a cave and the other finds a gullible audience on Fox News and CBN.

If you want to have this argument, we will have it.

But if you love Robert Spencer, you will not.

I have said enough evil things about this man already. Robert Spencer has an opportunity to redeem himself and he should take it.

God has mercy upon the merciful. But woe unto those who would use Christianity as a motivation for perpetual warfare against Islam. God will send Robert Spencer’s soul to eternal torment in hell if he actually acheives his goal.

Aug 21, 2007 - 5:23 pm 8. Stublore:

David Mathews [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Hello Mo,

> Please provide evidence of the ’slanders, lies, bigotry and hatred against Muslims’ that Mr. Spencer has spread

Do you really want me to do this?

If I do it, I will have to say some really terrible things about Robert KKK Spencer.

I will have to reveal his true character. I will have to speak about his middle name and how it wears “KKK” so very well.

If you want to know the truth, I consider Robert KKK Spencer the Western equivalent of Osama Bin Laden.

Bloodthirsty warmongers filled with hate and religious prejudice have a whole bunch in common even if one is hiding in a cave and the other finds a gullible audience on Fox News and CBN.

If you want to have this argument, we will have it.

But if you love Robert Spencer, you will not.

I have said enough evil things about this man already. Robert Spencer has an opportunity to redeem himself and he should take it.

God has mercy upon the merciful. But woe unto those who would use Christianity as a motivation for perpetual warfare against Islam. God will send Robert Spencer’s soul to eternal torment in hell if he actually acheives his goal.
————————————————————————————–
Yes, provide evidence of the your assertions, otherwise your comments can be dismissed out of hand!
As regards :
> Maybe instead of telling lies about other people, you should read the qur’an

I have read the Qur’an, sir. I read it a long time ago, long before 9/11.

I have also read the Bible. Would you like to compare the two?

We can play a little game: For every violent verse you find in the Qur’an, I will find a violent verse in the Bible.

This is a little contest which I offer to all ignorant, illiterate bigots.

Would you care to play this little game?
——————————————————————————————
What does that prove? It proves, which I assume you do not deny, that the koran has many more verses exhorting it’s followers to violence than the bible. It then follows, that it’s followers (koran) as a whole, support violence more than the bible bashers, esp given muslims take it more literally and without interpretation, than the bible bashers. Correct?
In no way does this point add to any of the allegations you have posted.
It merely show that the koranic fairy tale is more violent than the biblical one.
————————————————————————————————

Atheist’s, a non prophet organistion.

Aug 21, 2007 - 8:55 pm 9. mrockroll1969:

David Mathews,

We are still waiting for that proof about Mr.Spencer.

(crickets)

People like Mathews have no proof, and they know it, so all they can do is defame people. It is pathetic.

Aug 21, 2007 - 9:54 pm 10. Chip:

I wonder if “David” works for CAIR, ISNA, or a public university?

Islam is the only subject where obscurantists are allowed to trample over everyone else.

Aug 21, 2007 - 11:03 pm 11. Monty:

“If I do it, I will have to say some really terrible things about Robert KKK Spencer.”

You’ve already called him a genocidal warmonger, without citing any evidence. There is something blatantly dishonest about your readiness to bring baseless accusations, coupled with your reticence when people call your bluff. This pretence at concern for his feelings and reputation is just risible.

Furthermore, Spencers websites are un-moderated, he does not censor commenters. But you must know that, as you claim to know so much about him. You have also wrongly attributed to Spencer the comments made by others.

“I am an American and a Christian and I find people such as Robert Spencer reprehensible.”

Perhaps you ought to review the ten commandments, especially that one about not bearing false witness….

Aug 22, 2007 - 9:37 am 12. DoktorNo:

This video is not opening.

It maybe a setback on YouTube, but since few days it still not works.

Aug 23, 2007 - 3:23 am 13. RE:

I read posts by the likes of ‘David Matthews’ and recall an LGF article that linked to Memri:

E-Jihadis Infiltrating Non-Islamic Forums

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25852_E-Jihadis_Infiltrating_Non-Islamic_Forums&only

Keep up the good work Dr. Spencer!

Aug 23, 2007 - 12:55 pm 14. David Mathews:

I can see that the level of discourse on this blog is confined to only the most narrow-minded of barely literate bigots … which is, in fact, Robert Spencer’s primary audience.

Robert Spencer wishes to provoke a war between Christianity and Islam. What he fails to realize is that Christians are not inclined to join his crusade.

But if he continues to spread slander, lies, prejudice and bigotry … I am certain that there is a minority of Americans who will continue to buy this sort of bigotry. He will make a lot of money and his message will likely kill plenty of Muslim civilians.

Robert Spencer is a crusader, a fundamentalist, a jihadist, and a Western Osama Bin Laden.

That’s enough. I need not say anything else about this vile man.

Aug 23, 2007 - 2:32 pm 15. stublore:

Lol, Matthews you are a tw*t! You have been asked for proof, and have evaded the issue, each time spewing more hate with no evidence to back up your claims. You Sir, are the rabble rousing, crusading fundamentalist, and can now be dismissed as such. Perhaps you should learn to attack the arguments presented and NOT the person presenting them!!

Aug 24, 2007 - 5:13 am 16. JihadSpinAdmin:

Hi Mr. Mathews,
Just to let you know, I am not a (Christian) in the sense you and most people think of a (Christian) and I don’t read the bible
except when i was a lad. But that is a story for another time.
You said: “I have read the Qur’an, sir. I read it a long time ago, long before 9/11.
I have also read the Bible. Would you like to compare the two?
We can play a little game: For every violent verse you find in the Qur’an, I will find a violent verse in the Bible.
This is a little contest which I offer to all ignorant, illiterate bigots.
Would you care to play this little game?”

Yes you probably have read the Qur’an, have you put it to the test with the hadiths(prophet mo’s sayings) and the sunnha (what prophet mo did)?
That is when the qur’an becomes a book for terrorists. In the bible, there are versus where god says to kill but those versus, where for a specific time,
place and people and were not an open ended command to kill, as they are in the qur’an like [9:29] “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
So this sura alone says muslims need to fight Christians and jews (People of the Book) until we 1.Convert to islam. 2.Pay Jizya (tax for not converting and to keep the muslims from attacking us.) refusel to pay the tax would mean they hace every right to kill me.

And, what about all of the free speach groups like cair are trying to stop. They have tried to stop Mr. Spencer a couple of times, and failed.
Just look around the USA and see just what CAIR is up to and doing. AND, even if I did not like muslims as some would say, just exactly how does that make me a bigot? Being a muslim is not being a member of a race, as being arab. Our complaint is with muslims who read the qur’an in a literal sense and act on those commands, like OBL. Have you been listing to OBL and a lot of muslims who support him. They recite the qur’an and sunnah with every speach so the faithful will know these are allahs commands.

Aug 24, 2007 - 2:39 pm 17. David Mathews:

Hello Christian Jihadist,

> Yes you probably have read the Qur’an, have you put it to the test with the hadiths(prophet mo’s sayings) and the sunnha (what prophet mo did)?

If you want to include these other materials I can assure you that there are plenty of additional sources describing the atrocities committed by Israel and the Christians.

Christians have spread blood all across the globe for almost two thousand years. If you want to compare atrocities and genocides, we can do so easily enough.

Aug 24, 2007 - 4:54 pm 18. JihadSpinAdmin:

No, I will not go into history. At this juncture, we can only learn from history so we don’t repeat it. I also will not talk about the crusades because they are in our history put also because they started 460 years AFTER the muslim army’s started attacking jews and christian. But lets look at some of what some muslim scholars have to say about “The Religion of Peace”:

Syed Qutub wrote in his book(”Sign Posts”):

“Demolish all governments and organizations that are established by man. The return of Allah’s kingdom can only be established with a sword. Absolute rebellion is a must against anything on earth that conflicts with islam and to destroy it with great power”.

9/11 action by our mujahids was one such rebellious act.

MOHAMMED ABED AL-SALEM in his book (”The missing Commitments”):

This true mujahid wrote the book “The missing Commitments”. This book is the by-laws of world-wide Jihadi movement and is a must read for all muslims aspiring to copulate with with houries after death.

The book emphasizes that violent Jihad and slaughtering infidels was the “true islam” preached and practiced by our great prophet .

He wrote “bloodshed is the only way islam can again be spread and established. Fundamentalist Islamic authority must be established in every nation of the world with the help of the sword”.

JIHAD SUPERSEDES PRAYER,FASTING AND CHARITY:

In his book Abed Al-Salem condemned the religious rituals practised by muslims such as fasting prayer and Haj. He wrote that these activities keep muslims so busy that they forget the real call of Allah , the the violent jihad and slaughter of infidels to spread and establish islam.

KILLING INFIDELS IS EVERY MUSLIM’S RESPONSIBILITY:

Abed Al-Salem wrote that killing is the big difference between true Allah’s religion of Islam and all other religions. Before Islam, Allah dealt with infidels with fire, floods earthquakes. However after establishing islam Allah transferred this responsibility of dealing with infidels to muslim umma. Our prophet established islam with violent jihad and set examples for us. After him the early muslims used the sword to spread islam .

MULLAHS PREACHING ISLAMIC RITUALS ONLY ARE INFIDELS:

My dear brothers and sisters in Islam. These mullahs emphasizing prayers instead of jihad are infidels like the above Islamic scholars declare with religious authority. They are actually paid agents of the jews , hindus and right wing Christians whose orders are to keep muslims busy in religious rituals. They are brainwashing you that these silly rituals will earn you paradise and houries. On the contrary, these rituals will earn you hell fire. Here is what Allah said for those who ignore the only pillar of islam which is “fighting for Allah”.

9.38: Believers, What is the matter with you, when you are asked to go forth and fight for Allah’s cause (slaughtering infidels) you cling to the earth (staying home)? Unless you fight, Allah will punish you with a painful doom (Allah does not give a rat’s behind whether you prayed fasted or performed Haj)

How is it possible that violent jihad which is prescribed for muslims in 164 ayas of quran including ayas which guarantee paradise to those who kill and get killed for Allah is not a pillar of Islam? If one does not think that the following ayas do not cofirm that Jihad is the only pillar of islam , he needs to have his head examined.

Q 8.65: 008.065: “O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight”.

Q 9.111 “Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him”.

Q 9.123: “Fight the unbelievers around you and let them find harshness in you”.

Q4:84 “Fight in Allah’s Cause. Incite the believers to fight with you”

Q 2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), even if you dislike it”.

Q 47:4 “Smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding them”.

Q 8.12 “Smite infidels on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”

One just needs to wake up and look around the world to see. back in the 1930’s, no one was worried about Adolf Hitler and never bothered to re his book “Mein Kopf”. If you were to read it today and put it in a historical account of what happened in WW2, you would find that this book was his plan for world domination in detail and followed the book starting with Poland. This is what we are looking at today. I only want the US and the west to look at the ideology of islam and what Wahabi islam is doing around the world.

Aug 27, 2007 - 10:01 am

Write a Comment

Name:	(required, displayed)
Email:	(required, not publicized)
URL:	(optional, displayed)
Comments: