Comments on: Art World (Finally) Fights Back Against Anti-Semitism

By: BettyBlue

BettyBlue — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:33:12 +0000

Yes, Lynn, I know, the old double-standard; Israel is always held to a much, much higher standard, than any of the surrounding Islamic countries.

Yet mags seems to think that some UN reports, very mildly criticizing Hamas, are somehow as bad as the worst anti-semetism.

Of course, such people will always assure you they’re not anti-semetic, they’re just anti-Israel! And, if you question them, or point out that the Palestinians are hardly innocent of violence, it’s just because you’re trying to deflect any criticism of Israel.

By: BettyBlue

BettyBlue — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:24:32 +0000

Sorry, mags, I really don’t believe you, and I have my doubts about the International aid organization, and I know Israel has a strong—and very moonbatty—leftwing movement, and I don’t think the ones you link to necessarily speak for the Israeli people.

We have freedom of speech in America, too. I’m sorry to see I think you are more motivated by Jew-hate than anything else.

By: mags

mags — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:59:37 +0000

In Liverpool we have whats called freedom of speech, we can debate world events without abuse.

The words of Israeli peace activist Uri Avnery summed it up chillingly:
“What will be seared into the consciousness of the world (about the Israeli Gaza Invasion) will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints. This will have severe consequences for our (Israel’s) long term future, our standing in the world, our chance of achieving peace and quiet”
The truth, of course, is that criticizing Israel makes you no more of an anti-Semite than criticizing the regimes in Zimbabwe, North Korea, Burma, Iran or Saudi Arabia makes you a racist.
It’s simply a rather desperate tactic that’s used to try and deflect criticism away from horrific human rights abuses, not to mention outright war crimes.

Don’t like Robert Mugabe’s glorious leadership in Zimbabwe? You must be a racist!

Think Saddam’s gassing of the Kurds was a war crime? You anti-Arab bigot!

If you don’t want to believe me,listen to the international aid organisation’s and even the Israeli people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixrYv5pUzps&feature=related

http://www.btselem.org/english/About_BTselem/Index.asp
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=29734http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/events/1231029668
http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/events/1230833966

http://www.mikesanddislikes.com/politics_america_nothing_to_fear_but_truth_itself_criminalizing_criticism_of_israel

By: whistler

whistler — Sun, 31 May 2009 01:34:11 +0000

Oh mags, you are just a typical limey Jew hater I was exposed to as a child, before Israel ever existed and while Jews were burning in European ovens. I hope there are better than you in Liverpool

By: Carol Gould

Carol Gould — Sat, 30 May 2009 22:10:21 +0000

David Levavi,
I agree with you about Don Rumsfeld. My favourite Rummy Quote from hundreds of gems: ‘The American people have a very good centre of gravity.’ The man is brilliant. I met him and his gracious wife Joyce on several occasions when I lived in DC and they made me feel so welcome in a very cold, ruthless and dog-eat-dog city.
What is interesting is that three SecDefs ended up in various manifestations of purgatory: Forrestal (committed suicide) MacNamara (Vietnam stigma) and Rumsfeld ( can’t even wait at a bus stop in DC without being heckled).
Hmmmm

By: Karen

Karen — Sat, 30 May 2009 14:59:17 +0000

Extreme crimes against humanity in Gaza, Mags?! That’s a joke. There wouldn’t have been a war if Hamas hadn’t continually provoked Israel with rockets. They could have stopped the rockets long before a war became necessary. Where is you outrage about this extreme crime against humanity?

And where is your outrage about the Syrian city of Hama? Approximately 10,000 people were killed there by the government and no one did anything about it.

It is this type of double standard that Israel is held to that makes some of us think something more sinister is a work among the “anti-Israel crowd”.

By: BettyBlue

BettyBlue — Sat, 30 May 2009 13:39:08 +0000

Israel is a democratic nation. It has differences of opinion, and even allows protests against its government policy. And it investigates, when its army is accused of wrongdoing. Where are the Islamic investigations, and protests, against this practice? http://www.danielpipes.org/390/suicide-bombers-a-fathers-pride-and-glory

By: BettyBlue

BettyBlue — Sat, 30 May 2009 13:24:47 +0000

mags, looking at the articles, I really don’t see Arabs mentioned negatively. They’re mostly about UN reports which allege that Hamas may have used human shields, or that they may have stolen certain funds, or that the UN is becoming more critical of Hamas. They seem pretty mild, and waiting for more evidence to come in. No caricatures of Arabs as hook-nosed fiends, no blood libels, no accusations that they come from an impure race—how is this “anti-semetic” or “anti-Arab?” Are you saying Hamas shouldn’t be criticized?

Are you saying that it’s “anti-semetic” to criticize any Arab group, even one like Hamas? That seems to me rather far-fetched!

And if Israel has, allegedly, gone to such lengths to ensure the world doesn’t know about its crimes, how is it you’re so sure that it’s guilty? You, apparently, live in Britain, not Gaza. Are you a spy? You have special insider tips on what Israel is doing that the rest of us, even the UN, is unaware of? If there are thousands of protesters inside Israel itself, then I’d say Israel is doing a remarkably poor job, both of covering up its crimes, and being a tyranny.

“Anti-semetism” is a bad term. It could be better defined as “Jew Hate”.

By: Lynn B.

Lynn B. — Sat, 30 May 2009 13:15:07 +0000

#76 BettyBlue…Extremist views on everything from child abuse to moral equivalency has been the hallmark of the leftists. I am not against peace, but “peace at any price” is not justifiable.

By: mags

mags — Sat, 30 May 2009 12:05:45 +0000

Edward,hello? Are you there?
Are you watching American idol?

It’s a beautiful day here in Liverpool(there are other cities in the U.K,not just London)

It’s a big day today, Everton are in the F.A cup final,against Chelsea(which is owned by scary Russian billionaires).

The whole country is backing us.

As an allie i would appreciate it if could have EVERTON tatooed on your head,get drunk,fight and then vomit over everyone in homage to our team.