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	<title>Comments on: Ask Dr. Helen: Are Men Keeping Other Men Down?</title>
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		<title>By: wives screw other men</title>
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		<dc:creator>wives screw other men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their wives. ... HARASSMENT&quot; as part of the way in which men do, in fact, screw themselves over. ...http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ask-dr-helen-are-men-keeping-other-men-down/A New Image for Asian Men? Asian American Issues GoldSeaThere are tons of white, asian, black, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] their wives. &#8230; HARASSMENT&#8221; as part of the way in which men do, in fact, screw themselves over. &#8230;http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ask-dr-helen-are-men-keeping-other-men-down/A New Image for Asian Men? Asian American Issues GoldSeaThere are tons of white, asian, black, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: are men born with innate desires to take care of their families</title>
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		<dc:creator>are men born with innate desires to take care of their families</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] differences. But for the innate ... These men toil away to try and support families all the ...http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ask-dr-helen-are-men-keeping-other-men-down/Obsidian Wings: The Slip And SlopeNo-fault divorce opened up a Pandora&#039;s box of easily-broken [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] differences. But for the innate &#8230; These men toil away to try and support families all the &#8230;http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ask-dr-helen-are-men-keeping-other-men-down/Obsidian Wings: The Slip And SlopeNo-fault divorce opened up a Pandora&#8217;s box of easily-broken [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lookat</title>
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		<dc:creator>lookat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 10:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course they are. Men have betrayed their brothers in order to score points with radicalized women and homosexuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they are. Men have betrayed their brothers in order to score points with radicalized women and homosexuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Our Pretty Little World of Distorted &#8220;Truths&#8221; &#171; J. Soltys&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Pretty Little World of Distorted &#8220;Truths&#8221; &#171; J. Soltys&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are Other Men Keeping Men Down? In this article Dr. Helen addresses the way men in power actually use their power to discriminate against other men. Her article contains many elements that I feel are relevant to issues surrounding perceptions of men and masculinity. The most poignant is the belief that because men hold the most powerful positions in the world, men are living in a state of bliss because this aggregate wealth of power is shared. This is probably the most absurd myth generated by feminism. The priority for the judgment of power should be less about who has it, and more about what those who have it actually do with it. While men in this country hold most of the power, how many of these men can openly advocate for more resources and attention directed toward causes that are exclusive to males? And how many can openly advocate resources and attention to causes that are exclusive to females? It is easier to do the latter. Any politician or corporate board member who openly advocates for male exclusive issues would immediately surround himself in damaging controversy - one he would never professionally recover from. Quote from article: The mistake in that way of thinking is to look only at the top. If one were to look downward to the bottom of society instead, one finds mostly men there too. Who’s in prison, all over the world, as criminals or political prisoners? The population on Death Row has never approached 51% female. Who’s homeless? Again, mostly men. Whom does society use for bad or dangerous jobs? U.S. Department of Labor statistics report that 93% of the people killed on the job are men. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are Other Men Keeping Men Down? In this article Dr. Helen addresses the way men in power actually use their power to discriminate against other men. Her article contains many elements that I feel are relevant to issues surrounding perceptions of men and masculinity. The most poignant is the belief that because men hold the most powerful positions in the world, men are living in a state of bliss because this aggregate wealth of power is shared. This is probably the most absurd myth generated by feminism. The priority for the judgment of power should be less about who has it, and more about what those who have it actually do with it. While men in this country hold most of the power, how many of these men can openly advocate for more resources and attention directed toward causes that are exclusive to males? And how many can openly advocate resources and attention to causes that are exclusive to females? It is easier to do the latter. Any politician or corporate board member who openly advocates for male exclusive issues would immediately surround himself in damaging controversy &#8211; one he would never professionally recover from. Quote from article: The mistake in that way of thinking is to look only at the top. If one were to look downward to the bottom of society instead, one finds mostly men there too. Who’s in prison, all over the world, as criminals or political prisoners? The population on Death Row has never approached 51% female. Who’s homeless? Again, mostly men. Whom does society use for bad or dangerous jobs? U.S. Department of Labor statistics report that 93% of the people killed on the job are men. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ddc</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phineas,

1st sentence. Well said.  
2nd, eh, you&#039;re only stating the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phineas,</p>
<p>1st sentence. Well said.<br />
2nd, eh, you&#8217;re only stating the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Phineas Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phineas Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>College conditions most men to the anti-male bias as a prerequisite to simply get laid.  The conditioning sticks.
 
Did I just reveal my own misogyny?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>College conditions most men to the anti-male bias as a prerequisite to simply get laid.  The conditioning sticks.</p>
<p>Did I just reveal my own misogyny?</p>
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		<title>By: FP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Floridan:
 
&gt;Jeez, what a bunch of crybabies. No wonder you all get mistreated.

-------
Yeah, you&#039;re a real toughguy...

And a hypocrit who just makes nonsense up.

No wonder every few generations there&#039;s  civil war to cull you back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Floridan:</p>
<p>&gt;Jeez, what a bunch of crybabies. No wonder you all get mistreated.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Yeah, you&#8217;re a real toughguy&#8230;</p>
<p>And a hypocrit who just makes nonsense up.</p>
<p>No wonder every few generations there&#8217;s  civil war to cull you back.</p>
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		<title>By: Floridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, what a bunch of crybabies.  No wonder you all get mistreated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, what a bunch of crybabies.  No wonder you all get mistreated.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not saying this applies everywhere, but I used to work in a large corporation full of spoiled, rich &quot;daddy&#039;s girls&quot;.  These girls never worked a day in their life until they got their corporate job (I mean until their dad got them their corporate job).  These jobs are all mid or higher level affirmative action jobs that don&#039;t require much work (think Michelle Obama as &quot;community laiason&quot; for a hospital for $327,000/year).  They all have BMWs or Mercedes their dads got them as college graduation gifts.  The company loves it because they are making up for the fact that the CEO and all VPs are men.  Yet, there is NOT ONE single man in place to move up to any of the top spots now.  

These girls basically tell rank and file men, who are doing the real work, what to do.  These men toil away to try and support families all the while knowing promotional opportunities are slim since all the slots above them are women. The men are resentful.  As each man leaves the office becomes more estrogen-filled.  I finally had it and left also. 

Unfortunately, even these women will become unhappy because they will never be satisfied marrying a normal man starting out in life because they&#039;re spoiled rotten.  They&#039;ll make excuses for their singleness as the fact &quot;their professional success intimidates&quot; men when its nothing of the sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not saying this applies everywhere, but I used to work in a large corporation full of spoiled, rich &#8220;daddy&#8217;s girls&#8221;.  These girls never worked a day in their life until they got their corporate job (I mean until their dad got them their corporate job).  These jobs are all mid or higher level affirmative action jobs that don&#8217;t require much work (think Michelle Obama as &#8220;community laiason&#8221; for a hospital for $327,000/year).  They all have BMWs or Mercedes their dads got them as college graduation gifts.  The company loves it because they are making up for the fact that the CEO and all VPs are men.  Yet, there is NOT ONE single man in place to move up to any of the top spots now.  </p>
<p>These girls basically tell rank and file men, who are doing the real work, what to do.  These men toil away to try and support families all the while knowing promotional opportunities are slim since all the slots above them are women. The men are resentful.  As each man leaves the office becomes more estrogen-filled.  I finally had it and left also. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, even these women will become unhappy because they will never be satisfied marrying a normal man starting out in life because they&#8217;re spoiled rotten.  They&#8217;ll make excuses for their singleness as the fact &#8220;their professional success intimidates&#8221; men when its nothing of the sort.</p>
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		<title>By: ddc</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FP,

 Your comments are either pure hilarity or complete rabid paranoia. 

 I do get that some subjects might be TOO &quot;sensitive&quot; and would therefore be more politically incorrect to adressed. Doesn&#039;t mean they shouldn&#039;t be addressed. WHo determines what is off limite for discussion or not? You? Hardly.

Hey women screw other women over too but the topic isn&#039;t about women...this time. It&#039;s about why men either might or are getting screwed over by other men Judges, co-workers, employers, to some extent - women, and why some men&#039;s treatment of women i.e. sexual harassment perpetuates the male bashing and bias men feel they suffer today. Aren&#039;t you the least bit interested in WHAT ALL the issues would be to attribute to such? I mean look what you are doing right now. 
&quot;Ban him!&quot; Why? Because this perhaps touches a nerve and it takes away from the poor guys getting pummeled? I&#039;ve brought up nothing untrue or salacious, yet you call for me to be banned. Interesting.    

Have I ever said this is indicative of ALL MEN? No. There are plenty good, decent, fair, remarkable men who don&#039;t deserve some of the bad treatment they get from the courts, employers, women, other men, etc. What makes it bad for THOSE guys are guys like you. Sorry to say.  

Seriously tiresome. Get a clue. Grow up or something. Geezus.
Ban me. The facts and issues will remain the same.

Enough said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FP,</p>
<p> Your comments are either pure hilarity or complete rabid paranoia. </p>
<p> I do get that some subjects might be TOO &#8220;sensitive&#8221; and would therefore be more politically incorrect to adressed. Doesn&#8217;t mean they shouldn&#8217;t be addressed. WHo determines what is off limite for discussion or not? You? Hardly.</p>
<p>Hey women screw other women over too but the topic isn&#8217;t about women&#8230;this time. It&#8217;s about why men either might or are getting screwed over by other men Judges, co-workers, employers, to some extent &#8211; women, and why some men&#8217;s treatment of women i.e. sexual harassment perpetuates the male bashing and bias men feel they suffer today. Aren&#8217;t you the least bit interested in WHAT ALL the issues would be to attribute to such? I mean look what you are doing right now.<br />
&#8220;Ban him!&#8221; Why? Because this perhaps touches a nerve and it takes away from the poor guys getting pummeled? I&#8217;ve brought up nothing untrue or salacious, yet you call for me to be banned. Interesting.    </p>
<p>Have I ever said this is indicative of ALL MEN? No. There are plenty good, decent, fair, remarkable men who don&#8217;t deserve some of the bad treatment they get from the courts, employers, women, other men, etc. What makes it bad for THOSE guys are guys like you. Sorry to say.  </p>
<p>Seriously tiresome. Get a clue. Grow up or something. Geezus.<br />
Ban me. The facts and issues will remain the same.</p>
<p>Enough said</p>
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