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		<title>By: +Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>+Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The country is in trouble. Essentially what bailouts means is that the FED gets that money to bailout out companies by printing money out of thin air. When they print this money it causes too much money into the system and makes the dollar worth less and less.
If they keep up these bailouts you will see the dollar becoming worthless in a few years. 


http://beyondsuccess.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/robert-kiyosaki-wa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country is in trouble. Essentially what bailouts means is that the FED gets that money to bailout out companies by printing money out of thin air. When they print this money it causes too much money into the system and makes the dollar worth less and less.<br />
If they keep up these bailouts you will see the dollar becoming worthless in a few years. </p>
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		<title>By: aaron4unitruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron4unitruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many reasons why the bailout of Wall street and the auto industry is wrong but most importantly because the federal government is far more powerful than it was ever meant to be.  Now the government can be a stockholder?  Sounds too much like socialism.

http://www.theartdeptchronicles.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many reasons why the bailout of Wall street and the auto industry is wrong but most importantly because the federal government is far more powerful than it was ever meant to be.  Now the government can be a stockholder?  Sounds too much like socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Bilgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 Paul in Indiana:

&quot;The fact of declaring chapter 11 will not cause the auto plants to evaporate. What will go away are the rediculous UAW agreements.&quot;

 I&#039;d guess that you&#039;re half right. 

 The UAW Collective Bargaining Agreements will evaporate, but the Big 3 &quot;Maquiladora&quot; assembly plants in Mexico will certainly remain...perhaps even be enlarged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 Paul in Indiana:</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact of declaring chapter 11 will not cause the auto plants to evaporate. What will go away are the rediculous UAW agreements.&#8221;</p>
<p> I&#8217;d guess that you&#8217;re half right. </p>
<p> The UAW Collective Bargaining Agreements will evaporate, but the Big 3 &#8220;Maquiladora&#8221; assembly plants in Mexico will certainly remain&#8230;perhaps even be enlarged.</p>
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		<title>By: Bilgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone heard from Michael Moore about the Auto bailout?

 He spouts off about everything else under the sun, I just wonder that if he&#039;s commented on this, it hasn&#039;t been splashed.

 One would think that for a guy who :made his bones&quot; with the masterpiece: &quot;Roger &amp; Me&quot;, he&#039;d be front and center on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone heard from Michael Moore about the Auto bailout?</p>
<p> He spouts off about everything else under the sun, I just wonder that if he&#8217;s commented on this, it hasn&#8217;t been splashed.</p>
<p> One would think that for a guy who :made his bones&#8221; with the masterpiece: &#8220;Roger &amp; Me&#8221;, he&#8217;d be front and center on this.</p>
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		<title>By: LennyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LennyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ILikeIke:  well said.

johnc:  you&#039;re coming from the right place, and it would be an utter disaster to bail these companies out and have the guvment overseeing them.  But I think there is a good point to be made here.  Your real beef is not with the politicians you resent who couldn&#039;t run a lemonade stand (clearly this is true, and will always be so -- after all, they are blowhard politicians), but the execs who actually have run the company into the ground (and thus also couldn&#039;t run a lemonade stand).  Ideological rhetoric -- even the right kind -- will only get you so far if you&#039;re not willing to call out the true villains.  Bitch about the lefty politicians all you want, and bitch about govt bureaucracy all you want, but in my view the real villain here is the confluence of greed and foolishness.  The greed of the CEOs, who in my experience acquire an arrogance that seems close to divine right but whose salary is rarely if ever justified -- the CEOs who, like well-positioned politicians, are usually insulated from disaster by their own political cronies -- the corporate boards, who generally have pretty sweet deals themselves.  Politicians, the lot of them, and rent-seekers all.  When half-witted capitalists fail, they give socialist politicians opportunity to screw up our free markets, as well as saddle us with damaged GDP.  So I say, a half-witted capitalist is more dangerous (and deserves more ire) than a no-witted and utterly predictable socialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ILikeIke:  well said.</p>
<p>johnc:  you&#8217;re coming from the right place, and it would be an utter disaster to bail these companies out and have the guvment overseeing them.  But I think there is a good point to be made here.  Your real beef is not with the politicians you resent who couldn&#8217;t run a lemonade stand (clearly this is true, and will always be so &#8212; after all, they are blowhard politicians), but the execs who actually have run the company into the ground (and thus also couldn&#8217;t run a lemonade stand).  Ideological rhetoric &#8212; even the right kind &#8212; will only get you so far if you&#8217;re not willing to call out the true villains.  Bitch about the lefty politicians all you want, and bitch about govt bureaucracy all you want, but in my view the real villain here is the confluence of greed and foolishness.  The greed of the CEOs, who in my experience acquire an arrogance that seems close to divine right but whose salary is rarely if ever justified &#8212; the CEOs who, like well-positioned politicians, are usually insulated from disaster by their own political cronies &#8212; the corporate boards, who generally have pretty sweet deals themselves.  Politicians, the lot of them, and rent-seekers all.  When half-witted capitalists fail, they give socialist politicians opportunity to screw up our free markets, as well as saddle us with damaged GDP.  So I say, a half-witted capitalist is more dangerous (and deserves more ire) than a no-witted and utterly predictable socialist.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinking Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinking Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cedarford....I&#039;m not blinded by my &quot;ideology&quot; as you characterized me. I&#039;m one of those people out in the &quot;real world&quot; who works for a global company dealing daily with these issues. It&#039;s nice to sit and pontificate on these things, but until you are immersed in it and see it from the inside out, you see how things &quot;should be&quot; not how they really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cedarford&#8230;.I&#8217;m not blinded by my &#8220;ideology&#8221; as you characterized me. I&#8217;m one of those people out in the &#8220;real world&#8221; who works for a global company dealing daily with these issues. It&#8217;s nice to sit and pontificate on these things, but until you are immersed in it and see it from the inside out, you see how things &#8220;should be&#8221; not how they really are.</p>
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		<title>By: Martge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who runs the Postal Service. Well the Post Master General tells them what to do and they step to it. Four years ago we moved into a garage apartment. Very nice and no noisy neighbors but, we didn&#039;t get mail delivery. We went to the post office, we talked to the postmaster at the local office and nothing happened. We wrote to the PG in DC and he put it off on the area Post Master who said we were not going to get delivery. That we would have to ask our neighbor to put up an extra mailbox and we could walk the 200 yards to pick it up or get a post office box. That taxpayer money wasn&#039;t used to pay for postal services and he made the decisions. So are they going to appoint a &quot;car czar&quot; to make the decisions like the Post Master General does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who runs the Postal Service. Well the Post Master General tells them what to do and they step to it. Four years ago we moved into a garage apartment. Very nice and no noisy neighbors but, we didn&#8217;t get mail delivery. We went to the post office, we talked to the postmaster at the local office and nothing happened. We wrote to the PG in DC and he put it off on the area Post Master who said we were not going to get delivery. That we would have to ask our neighbor to put up an extra mailbox and we could walk the 200 yards to pick it up or get a post office box. That taxpayer money wasn&#8217;t used to pay for postal services and he made the decisions. So are they going to appoint a &#8220;car czar&#8221; to make the decisions like the Post Master General does.</p>
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		<title>By: johnc</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What drives me crazy is that these politicians are acting like they know how to fix the problem. These clowns could not run a lemonade stand let alone a car company! 
Drop the corporate tax get rid of capital gains taxes and reduce the size of the government and cut spending and let the free markets work! Problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What drives me crazy is that these politicians are acting like they know how to fix the problem. These clowns could not run a lemonade stand let alone a car company!<br />
Drop the corporate tax get rid of capital gains taxes and reduce the size of the government and cut spending and let the free markets work! Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: ILikeIke</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILikeIke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you want government who brought you the Post Office, Social Security, Medicare, and screw up everything else they touch be in charge of making your cars? Employees making double what Honda, Toyota, and Nissan employees make?&quot;

I don&#039;t know...the Post Office is pretty reliable.  They hit every home and business in my neighborhood on a daily basis, even when it&#039;s snowing.  Ten bucks says your neighborhood gets the same treatment.

Social Security?  It works pretty well.  Raise your hand, Social Security haters, if you plan on NOT cashing any checks you may get.  Raise your hand if you wouldn&#039;t take the death benefit if a loved one died.  

John McCain gets social security checks, even as he rails against them, and that dude is rich!

The problem with Social Security is not that it doesn&#039;t work...it&#039;s that it works too well!  There will soon be too many people taking out money and not enough putting it in.  It&#039;ll become insolvent, but it &lt;i&gt;does what it is intended to do.&lt;/i&gt;  So does Medicare.

On the flipside, what about the military?  If low-paid government employees are useless and for-profit capitalists are efficient, why send the Marines to war when we could just send in Blackwater?  Oh wait...never mind.  (I&#039;ll take the grumpiest grunt over any &quot;security contractor&quot; any day.)

Right-wingers masquerading as conservatives need to get off this idea that government programs suck by virtue of being a &lt;i&gt;government program&lt;/i&gt;.  

(And yes...I said right-wingers masquerading as conservatives.  They are NOT the same thing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you want government who brought you the Post Office, Social Security, Medicare, and screw up everything else they touch be in charge of making your cars? Employees making double what Honda, Toyota, and Nissan employees make?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;the Post Office is pretty reliable.  They hit every home and business in my neighborhood on a daily basis, even when it&#8217;s snowing.  Ten bucks says your neighborhood gets the same treatment.</p>
<p>Social Security?  It works pretty well.  Raise your hand, Social Security haters, if you plan on NOT cashing any checks you may get.  Raise your hand if you wouldn&#8217;t take the death benefit if a loved one died.  </p>
<p>John McCain gets social security checks, even as he rails against them, and that dude is rich!</p>
<p>The problem with Social Security is not that it doesn&#8217;t work&#8230;it&#8217;s that it works too well!  There will soon be too many people taking out money and not enough putting it in.  It&#8217;ll become insolvent, but it <i>does what it is intended to do.</i>  So does Medicare.</p>
<p>On the flipside, what about the military?  If low-paid government employees are useless and for-profit capitalists are efficient, why send the Marines to war when we could just send in Blackwater?  Oh wait&#8230;never mind.  (I&#8217;ll take the grumpiest grunt over any &#8220;security contractor&#8221; any day.)</p>
<p>Right-wingers masquerading as conservatives need to get off this idea that government programs suck by virtue of being a <i>government program</i>.  </p>
<p>(And yes&#8230;I said right-wingers masquerading as conservatives.  They are NOT the same thing.)</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Collar Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Collar Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are some unions better than others? I&#039;m in the oil industry and Liberals like President-elect Obama want a &quot;windfal&quot; tax on my employer.  That is not going to help me in the long run.  This is one union guy who does &lt;a&gt;not&lt;/a&gt; support any of these bailouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are some unions better than others? I&#8217;m in the oil industry and Liberals like President-elect Obama want a &#8220;windfal&#8221; tax on my employer.  That is not going to help me in the long run.  This is one union guy who does <a>not</a> support any of these bailouts.</p>
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