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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like to Post About Today &#8230;.. (121108, Morning)</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like to Post About Today &#8230;.. (121108, Morning)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Though the GM-Chrysler bailout passed the House, at least John Boehner and Jean Schmidt didn&#8217;t make the same mistake twice. Both mistakenly supported the SUCKUP (Seemingly Unlimited Cash Kitty Under Paulson) with the made-up $700 billion price tag that turned into an $850 billion pork-laden fiasco. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Though the GM-Chrysler bailout passed the House, at least John Boehner and Jean Schmidt didn&#8217;t make the same mistake twice. Both mistakenly supported the SUCKUP (Seemingly Unlimited Cash Kitty Under Paulson) with the made-up $700 billion price tag that turned into an $850 billion pork-laden fiasco. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; That Giant SUCKUP Sound</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; That Giant SUCKUP Sound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see. There&#8217;s Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson&#8217;s &#8220;bailout fund.&#8221; There&#8217;s also the AIG money that&#8217;s separate from the bailout fund. Then there [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see. There&#8217;s Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson&#8217;s &#8220;bailout fund.&#8221; There&#8217;s also the AIG money that&#8217;s separate from the bailout fund. Then there [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amphipolis - What&#039;s that: frog city?  Really good post, but watch whom you&#039;re calling a blog geek!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amphipolis &#8211; What&#8217;s that: frog city?  Really good post, but watch whom you&#8217;re calling a blog geek!</p>
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		<title>By: Amphipolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amphipolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On full display? Too whom?

Most people are clueless. They have been taught that Washington is God. Washington will fix it.

Add to that the seemingly contradictory yeah, all politicians are corrupt. Who cares as long as I get what I want.

Nobody but blog geeks like us care about the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On full display? Too whom?</p>
<p>Most people are clueless. They have been taught that Washington is God. Washington will fix it.</p>
<p>Add to that the seemingly contradictory yeah, all politicians are corrupt. Who cares as long as I get what I want.</p>
<p>Nobody but blog geeks like us care about the details.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravalli County News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Repulsive Bailout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravalli County News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Repulsive Bailout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Among the repulsed were well over 150 economists from across the political spectrum, includin... We see three fatal pitfalls in the currently proposed plan: 1) Its fairness 2) Its ambiguity 3) Its long-term effects [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Among the repulsed were well over 150 economists from across the political spectrum, includin&#8230; We see three fatal pitfalls in the currently proposed plan: 1) Its fairness 2) Its ambiguity 3) Its long-term effects [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dewey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Taxpayer could undo all this by simply refusing to pay their mortgages beginning 12/1/2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Taxpayer could undo all this by simply refusing to pay their mortgages beginning 12/1/2008.</p>
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		<title>By: bobby b</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobby b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, accentuate the negative.  What a downer.

You forget to mention the good stuff, like how we&#039;ve now set up this huge pre-loaded fund that Congress - heck, that individual politicians, appointees, hangers-on, and their relatives, most likely - can quietly and without an Act of Congress dip into during those times when they need the BIG piles of money but don&#039;t need the big piles of openness that gets so annoying.

You forget to mention that, buried within that 400-page-plus literary bonanza, there still exists the mechanism with which Congress can quietly re-route all of that ACORN money back to ACORN, probably very shortly after the election.  (And we were all so disappointed when that was &quot;taken out&quot; of the bill! All that winking we saw the day before the bill passed? I thought a terrible case of pinkeye was going around in Washington that day. Guess not!)

You forget to mention that Paulson won&#039;t be there long, and that the next occupant of that office is going to be very, very grateful to have been appointed as America&#039;s new Largesse Czar. (Of course, he&#039;ll be appointed as the new Bendover Czar simultaneously, so those of us with advance knowledge can start stroking the possible candidates now.  Gawd, I love this country!)

And finally, you just barely touch on one of the best parts.  When you re-fi your house, what&#039;s the most fun part?  Yeah, it&#039;s buying the new TV, and dishwasher, and car stereo, and DVD players for ALL the rooms, and the new watch and the new set of kitchen cabinets, and then sticking all of those bills right back into your mortgage, so it&#039;s like you get all that stuff for free! What a great way to get that $150B worth of stuff that we&#039;d probably never spring for otherwise! I mean, c&#039;mon - would we have tacked $7500 tax credits for electric cars onto any real spending bill, where we had to pay for it?  No way!

See?  Win/win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, accentuate the negative.  What a downer.</p>
<p>You forget to mention the good stuff, like how we&#8217;ve now set up this huge pre-loaded fund that Congress &#8211; heck, that individual politicians, appointees, hangers-on, and their relatives, most likely &#8211; can quietly and without an Act of Congress dip into during those times when they need the BIG piles of money but don&#8217;t need the big piles of openness that gets so annoying.</p>
<p>You forget to mention that, buried within that 400-page-plus literary bonanza, there still exists the mechanism with which Congress can quietly re-route all of that ACORN money back to ACORN, probably very shortly after the election.  (And we were all so disappointed when that was &#8220;taken out&#8221; of the bill! All that winking we saw the day before the bill passed? I thought a terrible case of pinkeye was going around in Washington that day. Guess not!)</p>
<p>You forget to mention that Paulson won&#8217;t be there long, and that the next occupant of that office is going to be very, very grateful to have been appointed as America&#8217;s new Largesse Czar. (Of course, he&#8217;ll be appointed as the new Bendover Czar simultaneously, so those of us with advance knowledge can start stroking the possible candidates now.  Gawd, I love this country!)</p>
<p>And finally, you just barely touch on one of the best parts.  When you re-fi your house, what&#8217;s the most fun part?  Yeah, it&#8217;s buying the new TV, and dishwasher, and car stereo, and DVD players for ALL the rooms, and the new watch and the new set of kitchen cabinets, and then sticking all of those bills right back into your mortgage, so it&#8217;s like you get all that stuff for free! What a great way to get that $150B worth of stuff that we&#8217;d probably never spring for otherwise! I mean, c&#8217;mon &#8211; would we have tacked $7500 tax credits for electric cars onto any real spending bill, where we had to pay for it?  No way!</p>
<p>See?  Win/win!</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ran across this and couldn&#039;t help but comments. Apologies if my comments echo anyone else&#039;s previously stated ideas. 

My theory, based on the information I have gathered to date, is the rush was based in part on their - meaning Bush, Congress, other guilty members of the government lining their pockets with some portion of the proceeds - are all complicit in the enormity of this problem. They have all watched this problem grow bigger and bigger, probably hoping that they had one more day, one more week, to deal with. But instead, got so bogged down with so many wars and multi-front assaults that they forgot to deal with this little gem proactively when they had the chance. 

Now, they are in panic mode, and once again, the American taxpayer is not only going to pay the bill in lost wages, both before and after tax, but also in lost freedoms, lost democracy, lost free markets, etc. Because, as you noted, nobody but us &quot;crazy conservatives&quot; seems to think anything is wrong with what is being done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ran across this and couldn&#8217;t help but comments. Apologies if my comments echo anyone else&#8217;s previously stated ideas. </p>
<p>My theory, based on the information I have gathered to date, is the rush was based in part on their &#8211; meaning Bush, Congress, other guilty members of the government lining their pockets with some portion of the proceeds &#8211; are all complicit in the enormity of this problem. They have all watched this problem grow bigger and bigger, probably hoping that they had one more day, one more week, to deal with. But instead, got so bogged down with so many wars and multi-front assaults that they forgot to deal with this little gem proactively when they had the chance. </p>
<p>Now, they are in panic mode, and once again, the American taxpayer is not only going to pay the bill in lost wages, both before and after tax, but also in lost freedoms, lost democracy, lost free markets, etc. Because, as you noted, nobody but us &#8220;crazy conservatives&#8221; seems to think anything is wrong with what is being done.</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Bailout Saga Proves That Elites Don&#8217;t Care What We Think</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Bailout Saga Proves That Elites Don&#8217;t Care What We Think</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone75 - Yes, it&#039;s working for me and all my friends.  Of course, all my friends are educated, and white or oriental, and mostly Pub.  I live in Washington State.  You?

  If you live in a Blue State, it probably isn&#039;t working for you, because they tax your a$$ off.  Search for an article called Red States vs. Blue States.  It&#039;s very enlightening.  Also, the worst of the big cities are run entirely by Dems, like Chicago and Detroit.  Contrast that with NY, which have gone Pub with Giuliani and Bloomberg.  Oh, gee, what a turnaround.

  During the Bush administration, 5.5M jobs were created, and that doesn&#039;t count the jobs filled by illegals.  During this time, unemployment in MI went UP!  Other Blue States did poorly, too.  A great portion of the jobs went to AZ, TX, FL.  Why?  Taxes.  Right-to-work.  Fiscal responsibility.

  My personal take on this is that, not coincidentally, those worst cities also have a huge urban black contingent.  I can&#039;t figure if they cause the Dems, or the Dems cause them.  Regardless, since they earn less on average, they have a higher cost-to-benefit ratio.  They also end up in court more, so the cost is higher yet.

  To those who will charge racism, shut up.  You can&#039;t fix a problem by burying your head in the sand.  Right now, black females outnumber black males in college 3:1, which means they&#039;re often faced with staying single, supporting some guy, or marrying across racial lines.  90% of black children are born out of wedlock.  50% of black men have spent some time in jail, and 1/3 are IN jail.  Something&#039;s broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone75 &#8211; Yes, it&#8217;s working for me and all my friends.  Of course, all my friends are educated, and white or oriental, and mostly Pub.  I live in Washington State.  You?</p>
<p>  If you live in a Blue State, it probably isn&#8217;t working for you, because they tax your a$$ off.  Search for an article called Red States vs. Blue States.  It&#8217;s very enlightening.  Also, the worst of the big cities are run entirely by Dems, like Chicago and Detroit.  Contrast that with NY, which have gone Pub with Giuliani and Bloomberg.  Oh, gee, what a turnaround.</p>
<p>  During the Bush administration, 5.5M jobs were created, and that doesn&#8217;t count the jobs filled by illegals.  During this time, unemployment in MI went UP!  Other Blue States did poorly, too.  A great portion of the jobs went to AZ, TX, FL.  Why?  Taxes.  Right-to-work.  Fiscal responsibility.</p>
<p>  My personal take on this is that, not coincidentally, those worst cities also have a huge urban black contingent.  I can&#8217;t figure if they cause the Dems, or the Dems cause them.  Regardless, since they earn less on average, they have a higher cost-to-benefit ratio.  They also end up in court more, so the cost is higher yet.</p>
<p>  To those who will charge racism, shut up.  You can&#8217;t fix a problem by burying your head in the sand.  Right now, black females outnumber black males in college 3:1, which means they&#8217;re often faced with staying single, supporting some guy, or marrying across racial lines.  90% of black children are born out of wedlock.  50% of black men have spent some time in jail, and 1/3 are IN jail.  Something&#8217;s broken.</p>
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