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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Barack, I Didn&#8217;t Do It for This&#8217;: An Homage to Andrew Goodman</title>
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		<title>By: More Reactions to Obama’s Racism in America Speech &#171; AmeriCAN-DO Attitude</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Reactions to Obama’s Racism in America Speech &#171; AmeriCAN-DO Attitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] L. Simon at Pajamas Media: Barack, your speech was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These last comments remind us why politicians (and others) so rarely discuss &#039;touchy&#039;  subjects:  they can open the discussion but of course not resolve it in one speech or even in one long campaign, so they get blamed for the tensions it arouses as if speaking about the problem was CAUSING the problem. 
 
No.  we had many and deep racial tensions way before Obama spoke.  the idea that they aren&#039;t there as long as no one mentions them is childish--psychologist call it one version of magical thinking (if we just don&#039;t look under the bed the monster isn&#039;t there).  
i agree that he sure didn&#039;t &#039;ease&#039;  racial tensions, but i don&#039;t think he claimed that was the purpose of that speech or any one speech.  the purpose was 1. to get himself out of the hole his Wright connection had landed him in, and 2. to use the occasion to &#039;get into it&#039;--to go ahead and start a conversation on these horrible, difficult subjects, knowing full well that he would not come out a winner on every item, or with every listener.  

so, discuss away--that is the healthy result of his speech, and his contribution to--well, me and you--that he will get no thanks for, but that has great value nonetheless.

i can&#039;t wait to see what the self-satisfied &#039;experts&#039; here will say about his more recent upsetting speech on how bitter 30 or 40 years of abandonment have left small town working class Americans.  i guess the tendency here will be to deny that this bitterness is there, and to &#039;blame&#039; him for mentioning it.  
but it is there, and it had better be addressed, and anyone who has spent time in the rust belt--yes, PA is at the belt-buckle of the rust belt--will know what he&#039;s talking about, and will not think the bitterness results from his mentioning it.

obama is no saint, and not yet impressively presidential, but he is a remarkable politician in America for saying what so many have been choosing not to hear for so long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These last comments remind us why politicians (and others) so rarely discuss &#8216;touchy&#8217;  subjects:  they can open the discussion but of course not resolve it in one speech or even in one long campaign, so they get blamed for the tensions it arouses as if speaking about the problem was CAUSING the problem. </p>
<p>No.  we had many and deep racial tensions way before Obama spoke.  the idea that they aren&#8217;t there as long as no one mentions them is childish&#8211;psychologist call it one version of magical thinking (if we just don&#8217;t look under the bed the monster isn&#8217;t there).<br />
i agree that he sure didn&#8217;t &#8216;ease&#8217;  racial tensions, but i don&#8217;t think he claimed that was the purpose of that speech or any one speech.  the purpose was 1. to get himself out of the hole his Wright connection had landed him in, and 2. to use the occasion to &#8216;get into it&#8217;&#8211;to go ahead and start a conversation on these horrible, difficult subjects, knowing full well that he would not come out a winner on every item, or with every listener.  </p>
<p>so, discuss away&#8211;that is the healthy result of his speech, and his contribution to&#8211;well, me and you&#8211;that he will get no thanks for, but that has great value nonetheless.</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t wait to see what the self-satisfied &#8216;experts&#8217; here will say about his more recent upsetting speech on how bitter 30 or 40 years of abandonment have left small town working class Americans.  i guess the tendency here will be to deny that this bitterness is there, and to &#8216;blame&#8217; him for mentioning it.<br />
but it is there, and it had better be addressed, and anyone who has spent time in the rust belt&#8211;yes, PA is at the belt-buckle of the rust belt&#8211;will know what he&#8217;s talking about, and will not think the bitterness results from his mentioning it.</p>
<p>obama is no saint, and not yet impressively presidential, but he is a remarkable politician in America for saying what so many have been choosing not to hear for so long.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur, I think you are right.  Barack and his minister HAVE set civil rights back 25 years.  He hasn&#039;t just divided the party, he has divided the nation along racial lines--again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur, I think you are right.  Barack and his minister HAVE set civil rights back 25 years.  He hasn&#8217;t just divided the party, he has divided the nation along racial lines&#8211;again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the above comments, it sure doesn&#039;t seem as though Sen. Obama has eased any racial tensions, but instead, has stirred them up and left them to boil over. 


If his ineptness in handling the Rev. Wright situation is any indication of his future performance in dealing with the more complex problems of the Presidency, we could be in real trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the above comments, it sure doesn&#8217;t seem as though Sen. Obama has eased any racial tensions, but instead, has stirred them up and left them to boil over. </p>
<p>If his ineptness in handling the Rev. Wright situation is any indication of his future performance in dealing with the more complex problems of the Presidency, we could be in real trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell J Coller Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell J Coller Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, what was the old fairie-tale / parable of power...? 
&quot;The Emperor in not wearing any Kente-cloth...?&quot;  bummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, what was the old fairie-tale / parable of power&#8230;?<br />
&#8220;The Emperor in not wearing any Kente-cloth&#8230;?&#8221;  bummer.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell J Coller Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell J Coller Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The echo-chamber glitterati and scribblatti are in for the shock of a lifetime. They think the civil war can be put in a precious little box and labeled &#039;1861-1865.&#039; HUGE mistake. Semper Eadem.
If the good Junior Senator from Illinois wants to rise above certain unpleasantness, he needs to try harder &amp; not throw his granny under the bus. Speaking of buses, he should try riding one through a rough neighborhood with his sour-puss wife in Washington DC &amp; see if the formidable Mrs &#039;proud to be American&#039; Obama holds on to her purse a li&#039;l tighter. 
(for obvious reasons, she absolutely will go into survival mode.) 
We ALL fear chaotic, ill behaved urban monsters -regardless of skin color or previous condition of ancestral servitude.
Having encouraged the Obamas to vary their commuting habits, they should also try it without being surrounded by cops with concealed-carry privileges. That takes guts... like most people of creeds and colors who brave Washington, DC&#039;s most horrific &#039;hoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The echo-chamber glitterati and scribblatti are in for the shock of a lifetime. They think the civil war can be put in a precious little box and labeled &#8216;1861-1865.&#8217; HUGE mistake. Semper Eadem.<br />
If the good Junior Senator from Illinois wants to rise above certain unpleasantness, he needs to try harder &amp; not throw his granny under the bus. Speaking of buses, he should try riding one through a rough neighborhood with his sour-puss wife in Washington DC &amp; see if the formidable Mrs &#8216;proud to be American&#8217; Obama holds on to her purse a li&#8217;l tighter.<br />
(for obvious reasons, she absolutely will go into survival mode.)<br />
We ALL fear chaotic, ill behaved urban monsters -regardless of skin color or previous condition of ancestral servitude.<br />
Having encouraged the Obamas to vary their commuting habits, they should also try it without being surrounded by cops with concealed-carry privileges. That takes guts&#8230; like most people of creeds and colors who brave Washington, DC&#8217;s most horrific &#8216;hoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy, this is getting obsessive, but let me add still one more thing.
for those who think Americans are &#039;over&#039; race, i submit that one who does not agree at all is Secretary of State Rice: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/
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746301768/1
&quot;Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national &quot;birth defect&quot; that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country&#039;s very founding.&#039;.....she goes on, giving a considered and valuable view that is heartfelt but still &#039;politic&#039; Something like Obama&#039;s approach, even if not so obviously tied to a campaign objective. 

We have a substantial way to go, yes, but there are many who are striving to make it possible to more forward.  recognizing that we have a problem is not (or does not need to be) defeatist.  it can be a great contribution, a necessary step on the way to some resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy, this is getting obsessive, but let me add still one more thing.<br />
for those who think Americans are &#8216;over&#8217; race, i submit that one who does not agree at all is Secretary of State Rice: <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/</a><br />
pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080328/FOREIGN/<br />
746301768/1<br />
&#8220;Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national &#8220;birth defect&#8221; that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country&#8217;s very founding.&#8217;&#8230;..she goes on, giving a considered and valuable view that is heartfelt but still &#8216;politic&#8217; Something like Obama&#8217;s approach, even if not so obviously tied to a campaign objective. </p>
<p>We have a substantial way to go, yes, but there are many who are striving to make it possible to more forward.  recognizing that we have a problem is not (or does not need to be) defeatist.  it can be a great contribution, a necessary step on the way to some resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and i forgot to add how offensive and smug i find it to have called this a tribute to Goodman.

My post included no particular claim that morals are or should be chosen &#039;relativistically&#039; which i would have trouble even understanding.  But i did write and meant that Wright&#039;s awful pronouncements are not nearly the craziest things, or not the only crazy and obnoxious things,people hear from the pulpit each week.  And, people sit there, and come back each week. and no, they don&#039;t argue with their pastors or rebbes about the various things they don&#039;t agree with--I wrote that Obama is no better nor worse in this regard. i lumped him in with all the other sheep who don&#039;t challenge these idiot leaders.  i don&#039;t respect him for it, nor you for being so imperfectly literate as to have read in my post only what you came to it already thinking.
i did go on to say that i thought the wright controversy small change compared to the deep and terrible issues we have with race. that is a comparison of evils, and therefore in the most literal sense it is &#039;relativistic,&#039; but only in a way i am sure you preach and practice, too:  we believe some sins or errors worse than others.
I find Wright disgusting, but i find our ability to self-delude, to evade and attempt escape from the issues of racism and bigotry (and yes, this certainly includes anti-semitism and homophobia)to be more damaging to our country. And i did find Obama&#039;s speech on these issues to have advanced this discussion. and your insults not to have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and i forgot to add how offensive and smug i find it to have called this a tribute to Goodman.</p>
<p>My post included no particular claim that morals are or should be chosen &#8216;relativistically&#8217; which i would have trouble even understanding.  But i did write and meant that Wright&#8217;s awful pronouncements are not nearly the craziest things, or not the only crazy and obnoxious things,people hear from the pulpit each week.  And, people sit there, and come back each week. and no, they don&#8217;t argue with their pastors or rebbes about the various things they don&#8217;t agree with&#8211;I wrote that Obama is no better nor worse in this regard. i lumped him in with all the other sheep who don&#8217;t challenge these idiot leaders.  i don&#8217;t respect him for it, nor you for being so imperfectly literate as to have read in my post only what you came to it already thinking.<br />
i did go on to say that i thought the wright controversy small change compared to the deep and terrible issues we have with race. that is a comparison of evils, and therefore in the most literal sense it is &#8216;relativistic,&#8217; but only in a way i am sure you preach and practice, too:  we believe some sins or errors worse than others.<br />
I find Wright disgusting, but i find our ability to self-delude, to evade and attempt escape from the issues of racism and bigotry (and yes, this certainly includes anti-semitism and homophobia)to be more damaging to our country. And i did find Obama&#8217;s speech on these issues to have advanced this discussion. and your insults not to have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seek help, Brendan.  Your moral relativism has been refuted in a number of posts above.

1 = a number
2 = a number
therefore 1 = 2
yah.  uh huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seek help, Brendan.  Your moral relativism has been refuted in a number of posts above.</p>
<p>1 = a number<br />
2 = a number<br />
therefore 1 = 2<br />
yah.  uh huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s parentage is old news and most Americans are clearly over the race thing. Just watch American Idol to see how many mixed race families are out there.  Obama and his pastor need a new shtick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s parentage is old news and most Americans are clearly over the race thing. Just watch American Idol to see how many mixed race families are out there.  Obama and his pastor need a new shtick.</p>
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