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1. Ted:

Biden — the perfect foil for Palin!

Aug 23, 2008 - 10:23 am 2. B Dubya:

Perfect move.
But only if they get elected. That opens up 2 senate seats where it will do some good.

Aug 23, 2008 - 12:19 pm 3. sherlock:

Ooops, those oceans… I think they just started rising again!!

Aug 23, 2008 - 12:23 pm 4. Dane:

I have to admit, I actually liked Biden best of the Democratic presidential candidates.

Even if you do like him, though, he’s kind of a strange choice for VP. I would think he could be put to better use in the cabinet, maybe as Secretary of State.

Aug 23, 2008 - 1:15 pm 5. D.K. Bateman:

Choosing an attack dog reverses Obama’s notion of election for change. Change with 30 years of Senate speeches,not supporting the first gulf war, but voting for the second ?
Happy with Biden, thank goodness Obama wasn’t smart enough to choose Hillery.

Aug 23, 2008 - 1:44 pm 6. bill-tb:

Two Senators who have never done anything, and never held accountable for their failures. Perfect Democrat candidates.

Aug 23, 2008 - 1:44 pm 7. Ed Wallis:

More than ANY “tell-all” book, autobiography, or the like…

I’D BUY a book clearly explaining the “reasoning” (sic) behind coming to this decision.

Aug 23, 2008 - 2:04 pm 8. Lank Bodkins:

This ticket should ensure a memorable convention. The Clinton’s support will be luke-warm to be sure, especially since then didn’t even have the courtesy to give her some lip service on the VP nod. Biden is a lightweight, no gravitas, no accomplishments, just a long-time political hustler, he couldn’t inspire anyone. Can’t wait for the gaffes to begin, I’ll bet Obama’s staff checks all of Biden’s speeches beforehand for potential plagiarisms.

Aug 23, 2008 - 2:20 pm 9. Michael:

I think it’s absolutely critical to have a variety opinions in a President’s White House. I love that Obama is about change. Thats why I like Obama. But if we have a President who is about change, then its even more important for the White House to be a place where issues are debated and delved into from all sides. Our current President was more about the statuse quo and he still made lots of mistakes. If Obama is going to make the right changes, then he can’t surround himself with people that will agree with him all the time. I think Biden is perfect for Obama because regardless of whether Obama agrees with Biden on every issue, I expect Obama will respect Biden’s opinion as much as some of his closest advisors on many issues. Personally, over the last few years, I’ve come to see Biden as a very smart and hardworking public servant, and I think thats the point really.

Aug 23, 2008 - 2:55 pm 10. E:

I am quite surprised at the choice of Biden. He doesn’t really help Biden get any demographics he doesn’t already have, has said all kinds of dumb stuff.

I would have thought an Obama/Kaine ticket would be difficult to beat. But it seems that Obama is shooting himself in his foot.

Aug 23, 2008 - 3:00 pm 11. Rachel Peepers:

Tonight, after dinner, I plan to sit down in front of the TV, turn on the news and watch the new and improved version of “The Odd Couple.”

Aug 23, 2008 - 3:19 pm 12. airbound dude:

He was given a choice: make a complete fresh start with the “Change Theme” or go with the “Experience theme”. The Saddleback incident has left Obama nervious since that type of situations are Obama’s greatest weakness. McCain is an expert at that type of thing and I would not be surpised if the choose Biden at the last second. I know that Biden can defend himself against any attack but Obama is aiming at the top position. The POTUS is the one guy who must defend himself and defend others.Not get defended by the VP. That would made him look weak. McCain can defend himself in and look convincing that he knows what he’s doing. We know where he stand and we know that he’ll defend this nation. For Obama, we don’t know where he stand and he constantly change his position on several issues ( gun control, abortion, etc, ) and that is why people are not convinced by him.

Aug 23, 2008 - 3:36 pm 13. airbound dude:

He was given a choice: make a complete fresh start with the “Change Theme” or go with the “Experience theme”. The Saddleback incident has left Obama nervious since that type of situations are Obama’s greatest weakness. McCain is an expert at that type of thing and I would not be surpised if the choose Biden at the last second. I know that Biden can defend himself against any attack but Obama is aiming at the top position. The POTUS is the one guy who must defend himself and defend others.Not get defended by the VP. That would made him look weak. McCain can defend himself in and look convincing that he knows what he’s doing. We know where he stand and we know that he’ll defend this nation. For Obama, we don’t know where he stand and he constantly change his position on several issues ( gun control, abortion, etc, ) and that is why people are not convinced by him. Change, his greatest weapon is his greatest weakness. The POTUS must be firm against our enemies and constantly commited to help our allies.

Aug 23, 2008 - 3:38 pm 14. Richard:

Biden’s a career POLITICIAN. Who specializes in spending Taxpayer money. Useless baggage hardworking American taxpayers are punished with.
Chaff.
These two are symptomatic of the broken Government.
Former hippie, former pothead, coke head.

Aug 23, 2008 - 4:30 pm 15. Ed Wallis:

What “airbound dude” rightly points out is that Biden highlights – whether desired or not – the utter inability, inexperience, and inanity of THE OBAMBOOZLER being considered for the position of President of the United States of America.

THE QUEER COUPLE is more like it.

Whouda thunk it?!

Beautiful weekend, everyone!

Aug 23, 2008 - 4:32 pm 16. bill-tb:

airbound dude:, you saying hopey changey is under the bus? That’s what it looks like to me. Not much change in a 35 year veteran Washington insider with zero real world experience.

Aug 23, 2008 - 5:18 pm 17. cedarford:

bill-tb:
Two Senators who have never done anything, and never held accountable for their failures. Perfect Democrat candidates.

Oh, Biden’s done a lot.

1. He invented Borking and poisoned partisan politics all the more by poisoning the judicial nomination process. Clarence Thomas would no doubt point out that Biden was the head of the high tech lynch mob. Mrs Alito losing it and walking out crying? It was while Biden was smearing her husband.
2. He was one of the last ones still in the Seante that pulled the rug out from S. Vietnam by cutting off military equipment aid and air support. Something that Republicans will likely refresh the memory of America’s million Vietnamese-Americans, 120,000 Cambodian, 100,000 Hmong – and 2.3 million Vietnam Vets and their 18 million relatives of Biden’s key involvement…
3. Voted against the Gulf War but for the Iraq war, voted against Reagan’s SDI and matching the Soviet nuclear buildup in Europe.
4. Reliably pro-abortion, anti-gun, anti-drilling, anti-nuclear. For tilting laws to favor women over men (family courts, Title IX, Violence Against Women Act). Pro Open Borders amd mass immigration.
5. Of Senators, none quite have the reputation of the two-faced person that Biden has. The “hearty hail thee well regular Joe, common man” superficial Biden, then the viper underneath that eagerly slimes others and works to kill careers of those he opposes. And who pretends to be open-minded when his votes are very predictable.
6. Flaws like using a Brit politicians material in 1988, or bloviating are minor. We almost elected a bloviator in 2004, and there are a dozen Senators with swollen egos more intoxicated with cameras and the sound of their own voices than Biden. Think of Byrd, Schumer, Kerry, McCain.. As for Neil Kinnock’s ripoff (which he said was flattering) – That was in 1988. By now we know like Jewish gagwriters, politicians and their hired writer-bitches steal from other politicians material and their speeches freely. Not like academic plagarism at all.
Arnold, Dubya rip off Regan regularly. Dems rip off JFK, MLK, and FDR mannerisms and phrases like clockwork. Obama has an even better excuse for ripping off the speech cadences of Wright and the phrases of Deval Patrick – he paid good money for both. 43K of his own money over the years direct + 390K in taxpayer money to Wright
over the years, and mega-bucks to the Team Axelrod speechwriters that churn out material suitable for their generic black politician from Mayors Washington, Streeter to Gov Patrick to The One Obamessiah Himself…plus whiteys that have to speak to blacks to convince them to support their real estate projects or spot in City Hall – like the Crown and Pritzker billionaires and Mayor Daley.

Biden has 36 years in the Senate, starting as an eager McGovernite. He is hardly the worst Senator, but his better half of 4 decades as a quintessential Washington insider has a plethora of “Oh, Shits!!” regarding his judgment.

The stuff I mentioned is just off the top of my head and no doubt is less than 10% of the stuff Biden did that could hurt him as VP. But 6-time Senators are not total bums. Biden has his strengths – or voters would have shitcanned him long ago.

Aug 23, 2008 - 6:00 pm 18. Tom W.:

I love that Obama is about change. Thats why I like Obama.

Obama says he’s about change, but even a perfunctory look at his meager record shows he’s actually a frozen-in-amber paleoliberal who never reaches across the aisle, awards contributors with legislation that enriches them, steers pork to those who’ve done him favors, dishonestly smears his political opponents, knows nothing about any issue, surrounds himself with crooked advisers, and gets involved in shady real-estate deals that benefit him personally.

The only way you could interpret Obama as an agent of change is if you mean he wants to abolish American economic exceptionalism and make the federal government a Marxist kleptocracy.

Aug 23, 2008 - 7:29 pm 19. Ed Wallis:

TOM W., Don’tcha just LOVE the CHANGE Obama talks about?!

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/black_guy_asks_nation_for_change

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:00 am 20. SAF:

First: Hillary never had any intention of being the VP nomination and so must have taken steps to ensure that she was not on the list. Doing so in a smart way insured she would not get blamed if Obama looses and then would be considered for the presidential nominee in 2012. This has played out perfectly for her. Her supporters are luke warm at best for Obama and now will fell slighted that she did not even get on the vetting list. all according to plan.

Hillary is for Hillary first and foremost. Doesn’t matter if she believes Obama would be better for the USA, Obama as president means she never gets the shot. The Clintons have gone a long way in sinking his chances to get elected.

We are in for turmoil. If Obama wins he will make things worse and if he isn’t elected all we will hear is about how racist the USA is and there will be riots.

Biden is a minor side show and in all likely hood a detriment to Obama.

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:09 am 21. RustyG:

Hillary was the only possibility that made me nervous. You have to give Barry a little credit for being smarter than that. If elected he would’ve had to triple his Secret Service, hire official food tasters and ride around in a Popemobile.

The 3 am phone call would have been “I’m sorry to inform you that President Obama died mysteriously in his sleep”. There would be Bill biting his lip at the funeral.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:38 am 22. AlexinCT:

I expect this ticket of Obama & Biden will make the Dukakis & Bentsen team of 1988 look good. Most Obama supporters still believe they are running against Bush because of BDS. Obama promised change and proves in action that what he promised is more of the same old marxism class/race/gender warfare that has become the Mo of the left. He purports to want to run a clean campaign, then opts for VP that is a dirty old time fighter that has spent almost 4 decades in DC and can’t help but stick his foot in his mouth.

Hillary will do her best to sink this ticket. She thinks she can win in 2012 once she tells the rest of the party apparatchiks “I told you so!”. This race is now McCain’s to lose. I can already hear the accusations that Obama lost because Americans are racist accompanied by screams and accusations of stolen elections. These retards will never look inwards and realize that as soon as the average uninterested American realizes what democrats really stand for, not the propaganda they spew to cover what they really believe, they are turned off. Enjoy the show!

Aug 24, 2008 - 8:10 am 23. usmcret:

What a perfect match!! An empty suit complemented with a stuffed shirt! A combination worthy of Brooks Brothers.

Sedmper Fi

Aug 24, 2008 - 10:40 am 24. AST:

This is a joke, right? Politics in this country just keep getting weirder and weirder.

The only reason I can think of for this choice is that Biden’s gaffes might draw some of the attention away from Obama’s own.

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:14 pm

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