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		<title>By: Z-Lo</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/bin-laden-wants-my-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-32257</link>
		<dc:creator>Z-Lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems strange to argue that people should not be killed for speaking their minds. It is strange because this is an established point that does not need to be argued. But some are making this argument in response to terrorist threats.

The argument is not with terrorists themselves, though, because terrorists are presumably beyond the reach of ideological debate. So what is its purpose? And, perhaps more importantly, what are its consequences?

These are questions that a critically thinking public should have asked when European newspapers rallied around &#039;free speech&#039; and began republishing caricatures of the prophet Muhammad in 2006, incensing the Muslim world. But instead, a misguided debate about &#039;free speech&#039; and &#039;religious sensitivity&#039; emerged and continues today.

A key element of this argument is presenting &#039;freedom&#039; or &#039;free speech&#039; as in danger. These values, being perhaps the most central to Western society and even the individual&#039;s identity, elicit strong emotions in Westerners. They may be similar to the emotions that Muslims experience when the central symbol of Islamic society and identity was attacked by Western media and society at large. This comparison may help Westerners to consider the reactions of Muslims more calmly.

In both cases, it became difficult to think things through rationally. A threat to such basic elements of identity elicit fear. This should be recognized as dangerous. In the volatile circumstances that breed terrorism, war and social tension, it is precisely at junctures such as those faced in 2006 as well as today that we must be most careful.

Recently, Flemming Rose, the Danish editor who is behind the publications of caricatures of Muhammad that caused an uproar in 2006, responded to a tape recording of Osama Bin Laden, the man who is supposedly behind the 9/11 attacks and whose name is synonymous with &quot;terrorism.&quot; They are voices engaging one another on fiercely antagonistic ideological grounds in a time when their words have real consequence.

There is one point that they appear to agree on. Each seems convinced that the best way to address the tension between Islam and the West is through head-on confrontation.

Mr. Rose presents himself as if he is speaking for the West and challenging the ideology of &quot;terrorism&quot; or &quot;radical Islam&quot; or something. But I wish he would stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems strange to argue that people should not be killed for speaking their minds. It is strange because this is an established point that does not need to be argued. But some are making this argument in response to terrorist threats.</p>
<p>The argument is not with terrorists themselves, though, because terrorists are presumably beyond the reach of ideological debate. So what is its purpose? And, perhaps more importantly, what are its consequences?</p>
<p>These are questions that a critically thinking public should have asked when European newspapers rallied around &#8216;free speech&#8217; and began republishing caricatures of the prophet Muhammad in 2006, incensing the Muslim world. But instead, a misguided debate about &#8216;free speech&#8217; and &#8216;religious sensitivity&#8217; emerged and continues today.</p>
<p>A key element of this argument is presenting &#8216;freedom&#8217; or &#8216;free speech&#8217; as in danger. These values, being perhaps the most central to Western society and even the individual&#8217;s identity, elicit strong emotions in Westerners. They may be similar to the emotions that Muslims experience when the central symbol of Islamic society and identity was attacked by Western media and society at large. This comparison may help Westerners to consider the reactions of Muslims more calmly.</p>
<p>In both cases, it became difficult to think things through rationally. A threat to such basic elements of identity elicit fear. This should be recognized as dangerous. In the volatile circumstances that breed terrorism, war and social tension, it is precisely at junctures such as those faced in 2006 as well as today that we must be most careful.</p>
<p>Recently, Flemming Rose, the Danish editor who is behind the publications of caricatures of Muhammad that caused an uproar in 2006, responded to a tape recording of Osama Bin Laden, the man who is supposedly behind the 9/11 attacks and whose name is synonymous with &#8220;terrorism.&#8221; They are voices engaging one another on fiercely antagonistic ideological grounds in a time when their words have real consequence.</p>
<p>There is one point that they appear to agree on. Each seems convinced that the best way to address the tension between Islam and the West is through head-on confrontation.</p>
<p>Mr. Rose presents himself as if he is speaking for the West and challenging the ideology of &#8220;terrorism&#8221; or &#8220;radical Islam&#8221; or something. But I wish he would stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Tiger</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/bin-laden-wants-my-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-27115</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy that righteous blowhard sure loves the sound of his own voice. I kind of wish there was one united western voice to call him out for the multitude of contradictions in his numerous rants rather than the silence that always makes it seem like we&#039;re cowering in fear of his threats.

For starters, how come such western inventions as the computer, the internet, modern video production techniques, cel phones, cars, planes and weapons are okay for him and his followers to use in so-called defense of Islam? If you really reject the west, shouldn&#039;t these things also be rejected along with Coke and Hollywood movies?

And why doesn&#039;t anyone (Muslims included) ever really condemn him and his followers for the killing of innocent Muslim women and children in violent strikes as sloppy and random as public suicide explosions? 

And while I&#039;m at it, didn&#039;t Mohammed Atta and some of his uptight cohorts spend one of their last nights before 9/11 in a Florida strip club? Not exactly in line with the so called beliefs he died claiming to defend is it?

Sometimes I wonder how he can even be so sure of himself with the many inconsistencies in his rhetoric. But then again, he&#039;s got to be pretty polarized in his views by now, and that can lead to a lot of self delusion and righteousness.

In closing, to anyone who ever doodled the time away with cartoons in the margins of their school notebooks...HAIL, the power of the cartoon!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy that righteous blowhard sure loves the sound of his own voice. I kind of wish there was one united western voice to call him out for the multitude of contradictions in his numerous rants rather than the silence that always makes it seem like we&#8217;re cowering in fear of his threats.</p>
<p>For starters, how come such western inventions as the computer, the internet, modern video production techniques, cel phones, cars, planes and weapons are okay for him and his followers to use in so-called defense of Islam? If you really reject the west, shouldn&#8217;t these things also be rejected along with Coke and Hollywood movies?</p>
<p>And why doesn&#8217;t anyone (Muslims included) ever really condemn him and his followers for the killing of innocent Muslim women and children in violent strikes as sloppy and random as public suicide explosions? </p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m at it, didn&#8217;t Mohammed Atta and some of his uptight cohorts spend one of their last nights before 9/11 in a Florida strip club? Not exactly in line with the so called beliefs he died claiming to defend is it?</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder how he can even be so sure of himself with the many inconsistencies in his rhetoric. But then again, he&#8217;s got to be pretty polarized in his views by now, and that can lead to a lot of self delusion and righteousness.</p>
<p>In closing, to anyone who ever doodled the time away with cartoons in the margins of their school notebooks&#8230;HAIL, the power of the cartoon!!</p>
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		<title>By: brooklyn red</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/bin-laden-wants-my-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-26118</link>
		<dc:creator>brooklyn red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cry havoc...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cry havoc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Osama thinks the cartoons are bad, wait until my inflatable Mohammed hits the market.  Followed shorty after by Allah-on-a-rope for those really holy showers, and the plastic dashboard Allah (GPS optional).  I&#039;m trying to work out the tech for an Allah weathervane.  No matter which way the wind blows, it points to Mecca.  That will need a robust marketing campaign.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Osama thinks the cartoons are bad, wait until my inflatable Mohammed hits the market.  Followed shorty after by Allah-on-a-rope for those really holy showers, and the plastic dashboard Allah (GPS optional).  I&#8217;m trying to work out the tech for an Allah weathervane.  No matter which way the wind blows, it points to Mecca.  That will need a robust marketing campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pope Benedict just farted in &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080322/ap_on_re_eu/pope_muslim_convert&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Sammy&#039;s general direction. Viva Papa!&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pope Benedict just farted in <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080322/ap_on_re_eu/pope_muslim_convert" rel="nofollow"> Sammy&#8217;s general direction. Viva Papa!</a></p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/bin-laden-wants-my-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-26115</link>
		<dc:creator>John D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the worry about what the Muslims will do.



Haven&#039;t we been informed, ad nauseum, that Islam is a religion of peace and how the majority of Muslims do not hate us or wish us harm.



So why should we tip toe around Muslims? We don&#039;t worry when we insult Christian snakehandlers do we?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the worry about what the Muslims will do.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t we been informed, ad nauseum, that Islam is a religion of peace and how the majority of Muslims do not hate us or wish us harm.</p>
<p>So why should we tip toe around Muslims? We don&#8217;t worry when we insult Christian snakehandlers do we?</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if we talk about freedom is fine, but if talk a bout insulting other people, then there should be a solution for it.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve always marveled that the inimitable truth of Allah (as communicated through the Angel Gabriel and eventually winding up as the Koran) could possibly be subject to &quot;insult&quot;.

Or could need any kind of defense from mere mortals.

Especially from mortals who seem to  think &quot;insult&quot; to the Koran is a more significant crime than slaughtering their own women and children.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if we talk about freedom is fine, but if talk a bout insulting other people, then there should be a solution for it.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always marveled that the inimitable truth of Allah (as communicated through the Angel Gabriel and eventually winding up as the Koran) could possibly be subject to &#8220;insult&#8221;.</p>
<p>Or could need any kind of defense from mere mortals.</p>
<p>Especially from mortals who seem to  think &#8220;insult&#8221; to the Koran is a more significant crime than slaughtering their own women and children.</p>
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		<title>By: Bosch Fawstin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosch Fawstin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear Hear!

I have &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2008/03/steppin-in-it.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PIGMAN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, in all his pigskinned leather glory, showing OBL what he thinks of his latest rant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear Hear!</p>
<p>I have <strong><em><a href="http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2008/03/steppin-in-it.html" rel="nofollow">PIGMAN</a></em></strong>, in all his pigskinned leather glory, showing OBL what he thinks of his latest rant.</p>
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		<title>By: John the Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/bin-laden-wants-my-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-26112</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so laughable about this infantile and narcissistic zealot cult is that they continue to expose their weakness.  If they are offended by a cartoon, just think if we dropped a few bunker busters on Mecca.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so laughable about this infantile and narcissistic zealot cult is that they continue to expose their weakness.  If they are offended by a cartoon, just think if we dropped a few bunker busters on Mecca.</p>
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		<title>By: CBiggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>CBiggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that OBL doesn&#039;t grasp himself between the Rock and the Hard Place...  For if, by his words&#039; command, one single hair of a European head is harmed by anyone in the name of his prophet, the act VALIDATES the cartoon.  Perhaps if his PR folks outlined a policy to show us the other side of the Muslim faith (be there one?), that would destroy the cartoon!  Rock on, Freedom.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that OBL doesn&#8217;t grasp himself between the Rock and the Hard Place&#8230;  For if, by his words&#8217; command, one single hair of a European head is harmed by anyone in the name of his prophet, the act VALIDATES the cartoon.  Perhaps if his PR folks outlined a policy to show us the other side of the Muslim faith (be there one?), that would destroy the cartoon!  Rock on, Freedom.</p>
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