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Britain’s Jihad Industry Exposed
Saudi Arabia trains extremist clerics to preach hate and violence in British mosques.
Whenever an article about Islamic extremism in the UK appears at Pajamas Media, American readers invariably post comments that range from the sympathetic to contemptuous, most of which include the observation that Britain is “screwed,” or words to that effect. We Brits tend to take issue with such remarks, arguing that reports of our incorporation into a re-established caliphate are greatly exaggerated.
But then along comes another of those documentaries featuring secretly-filmed footage of Muslim clerics in British mosques preaching hatred against the Christians, Jews, and the West, and exhorting their followers to take up jihad. We’re reminded then that we do indeed have a bit of a problem.
The latest such documentary is Undercover Mosque: The Return, part of Channel 4’s Dispatches series. The program was itself a follow-up to an investigation last year in which preachers in a number of British mosques were filmed making anti-Semitic and homophobic remarks, and extolling the virtues of terrorism.
The police were quick to respond to those allegations: spurred on by the “moderate” Muslim Council of Britain and other Islamic groups, the West Midlands force tried to prosecute the program makers for inciting religious hatred. However, no charges were brought, and a complaint about the program lodged by the force was dismissed by broadcasting regulators.
The new investigation focused on one of the mosques featured in the 2007 program, the Regent’s Park Mosque in central London. It found that, despite promises by the mosque authorities to take action against the extremists, nothing much had changed. An undercover reporter — herself a Muslim — filmed female preachers calling on worshippers to kill non-believers and Jews, and ordering them not to associate with people from other religions. The mosque’s bookshop, meanwhile, was continuing to sell DVDs featuring extremist clerics calling on Muslims to wage jihad. There’s more about the program here, and you can watch it here.
It’s one thing listening to male preachers spouting hatred — those raving madmen with their Rasputin beards, missing eyes, and hook hands have become as synonymous with Britain as warm beer and cricket matches. It’s something else to hear soft-spoken teenage girls with London accents debating whether a homosexual should simply be stoned to death, or be thrown off a cliff and then stoned to death. And, while I wouldn’t for one moment want to suggest that women aren’t every bit as capable of waging jihad as their male counterparts — seeing as how big the Islamists are on women’s lib and all — if this is what’s going on in the ladies’ wing, you have to wonder what the men are getting up to.
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1. Richard:While I’m sympathetic to the British plight, it appears they are indeed screwed. One way you can illicit a similar response from a citizen of Great Britain is to mention President Bush to a Labor member.
Sep 18, 2008 - 3:14 am 2. vb:I’ve travelled a bit in Britain. I particularly remember seeing the Magna Carta on a trip to Salisbury and feeling awed to be a part of a great and long tradition. I am also worried about the absurdity and dangers of the multicultural PC, but I don’t like the snarky comments of some Americans. We really do need to stand together in dangerous times to defend our common heritage.
Sep 18, 2008 - 4:20 am 3. Chris in Toronto:Loved the article.
Political Correctness IS the problem.
Its sole purpose is to shift the paradigm of day-to-day life by relabeling the participants. Thus, from the article, “…(although you’d think the news that three ASIAN men had been arrested for plotting to kill Brown, rather than simply usher him from office, might help to focus a few minds).” Are they Chinese? Japanese? Thai? Tibetan? What? Maybe, just maybe, if instead of “Asian” they were “middle eastern” or, heaven forbid, “whateveristani”, then those eyes that need to be opened would be opened.
My particular beef with PC started with the whole idea of “African-American”. Here’s why: I am (or have been) in personal acquaintance of many black people who are natives of the Caribbean islands. Not from Africa. Not for generations. Not brought by slave traders. So to call them African-American is wrong.
Furthermore, I have known a whole bunch of White South Africans. By all rights, they should also be called African-Americans.
And just yesterday, a beautiful young black woman in the elevator in my very multi-cultural apartment building was speaking flawless and perfectly-accented Russian (I have developed an ear for this, having lived seven years in my building). Now, she could have learned Russian (or, maybe, she’s from Cuba) in school (she was only about 20, and Toronto’s not so multi-cultural as to have Russian schools for long enough to produce her), but I doubt it, so, for the sake of argument I’m assuming she’s Russian. The point is to call her African-American, probably, is not right, either.
Bottom line: “African-American” is meant to replace “black”. But it simply doesn’t. I think it might be because the PC term is, well, political, whereas the non-pc and more descriptive term is physical. PC infects any discussion where the term is used as a descriptive, a euphemism for “black”, by injecting politics and history into what may or may not be a politico-historic discussion. Thus PC shifts the paradigm.
I could go on, but I must go to work. Let me just add that we have to fight the menace. Even the author of this article has seemingly gotten a “contact high” from the murky PC environment we navigate as evidenced by his “three Asian men” usage.
Sep 18, 2008 - 5:24 am 4. ozziepat:“the unwillingness of our government to act against barefaced extremism”
This kind of generalization is deadly. There are specific people, and policies, that enable the problems to continue and grow. The same is true here in the US, in Canada, France and no doubt other countries. Failure to specifically identify those people and policies, and provide practical remedies, allows them to remain hidden behind the generalities. They are, to borrow a metaphor, like termites in the structure of a home – out of sight and quietly continuing their destructive activities. Detection and elimination is the only cure.
Sep 18, 2008 - 5:38 am 5. Die Fledermaus:In his book “America Alone” Mark Steyn presents cogent arguments against Britain’s surviving its demographic trends and governmental/cultural inertia. These arguments are reinforced by near-daily stories about ceaseless encroachment into British life of forces that are completely inimical to the philosophy that forged the nation.
The commonalities in heritage to which you refer are in danger of disappearing altogether in Britain. They’re under assault in the U.S., to be sure, but are meeting much stauncher resistance and have made comparatively little progress.
If dismissing commentary about these trends as “snarky” satisfies you, it’s your prerogative to keep doing so. Reality, OTOH, will not be dismissed as readily. If Britain continues to do nothing effective to resist the forces that are bent on changing its nature, it will cease to exist as you know it. That is much more probable than you are evidently willing to perceive.
Sep 18, 2008 - 6:07 am 6. Lisa:I’ve never traveled to Britain though my husband has many many times. He tells me that parts of London are no longer safe to visit because of the Muslim population.
Why are they doing this to themselves?
Heck, why are we? Here in Michigan, we have large numbers of Muslims and another company with large numbers of Muslim employees is looking at my hometown schools to decide if they want to locate here. They are asking if Arabic will be allowed in the schools. Will my Jewish son be allowed in those schools?
Sep 18, 2008 - 6:22 am 7. Bill in New York:while we send our sons and daughters to foreign countries to fight them, we lack the will at home to shut them down… pathetic.
Sep 18, 2008 - 6:48 am 8. Drew Brees:This sort of preaching doesn’t just go on in Britain. It goes on in America too, as the Saudis own and operates 80 percent of the mosques here in America as well.
Further, in Islam that kind of preaching isn’t extremist or radical at all, it’s par for the course. I don’t know what some of you guys assume Islam is, but study Islam, study the Koran, study the principle of abrogation, study the Hadith, and study the Sira. ALL devout Muslims in reality are extremist because Islam intrinsically is extremist.
As a matter of fact, you can’t even criticize Islam without risking being charged with blasphemy, and once a Muslim always a Muslim, as apostasy just like blasphemy is an offense that is punishable by death.
What makes Islam so extreme? Its highest mandate, its raison d’etre is to make the world sovereign for Allah through the imposition of Sharia, and a Muslim can’t reject that mandate and be a Muslim at the same time!
Moreover, learn to understand jihad. Jihad doesn’t just consist of violence. It actually manifests itself in many different forms, such as demographic, cultural, disinformation, economic, financial, etc., etc., etc.
The fact of the matter is the form of jihad that involves violence and in which people blinded by PC multiculturalism mislabel as terrorism, is in fact for obvious reasons by far the least ubiquitous form of jihad that is practiced by devout Muslims. As most devout Muslims by far elect to participate in the many of the other non-violent forms of jihad that are available to them.
Hence, the reality is ALL devout Muslims are jihadists striving in the way of Muhammad for the sake of Allah. However, only a very small number of devout Muslims ever participate in the violent form of jihad.
Nevertheless, under the current paradigm any devout Muslim that isn’t publicly calling for jihad, yelling Allahu Ackbar, or has explosives visibly strapped to his or her body is considered a moderate.
This is one of the reasons why declaring and pursuing war on terrorism (a tactic) is so utterly absurd, because it targets only one form of jihad, while totally ignoring all the other forms of jihad that Islam employs to pursue its highest mandate. It’s like declaring war on the tip of the iceberg and ignoring the other 99 percent of it that lies below the water!
Sep 18, 2008 - 6:51 am 9. BMoon:What is so painfully disconcerting for many of us in the U.S. to watch is the abject lack of moral clarity in Europe (and the west in general) that permits not just tolerance to Islamic terrorism, but actual cooperation with it’s goals and activities. What else can you call attacking, intimidating and persecuting those that are giving the warning signals? (As is also being done in Canada and Australia.)
This question MUST be thought about and answered: What leads an entire civilization to commit suicide?
Sep 18, 2008 - 7:04 am 10. Nate:The belief that the rights and responsibilities of the individual can be abrogated to the state. The Monarchist paradigm provided an alternative bullwark against Islam, but bureaucracy cannot and postnationalist postmodernism can provide nothing else.
Sep 18, 2008 - 7:48 am 11. iconoclast:The West has lost its belief in the superiority of Western society. Equivocating multi-culturalists repeatedly state that there is no moral superiority of post-Enlightenment culture over primitive societies like Islam. As if a state religion created by a thieving, murdering pedophile could be considered anything more than a vicious cult.
Ann Coulter had it right when she said Western society had to kill their leaders (in Islam) and convert the rest to Christianity.
Sep 18, 2008 - 8:51 am 12. Myism:For those of you who don’t live in Britain – glimpse of life across the Pond….I’ve lived in a “multicultural” part of London for 30 years, experiencing successive waves of migrants from Ireland, the Carribbean, India and Africa – all of whom have assimilated as Londoners. In the past 5 years or so we have witnessed a swell of newcomers from Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bosnia and Albania…creating an “ummah” that is alienating long term residents. My High Street now largely comprises Islamic bookstores, Islamic clothes stores, Halal grocers, Arab cafes & shisha bars, a plethora of street stalls selling mobile phone cards and unlocking services (a scam here I’m sure), squalid internet cafes, and money-transfer bureaux (”Quaran Express – funding who knows what???) People on the street are dressed in Asian & Islamic dress – the hijab/niquab is worn by most Muslim women. Arabic is the most frequently heard language. Within half a mile of my home we have 5 mosques. Sharia law is being accepted into the British justice system….
This population makes absolutely no effort to integrate and I struggle with my liberal laissez faire beliefs when confronted with this demographic phenomenon. People should be able to dress and worship as they wish, yet I feel threatened by the emerging Muslim majority in London NW2. To me Islamic dress in London represents the wearer’s rejection of and antagonism towards the society they’ve joined. Should we legislate against public wearing of the veil? If so, should we also legislate against Haredi Jews wearing their traditional garb….or punks sporting mohican hairstyles….or black kids dressed as gangsta rappers?
The challenges are huge and answers aren’t simple, yet the UK government’s PC ideology and inept social policies are creating mega problems. Not Eurabia yet, but it’s starting. I plan to send my kids to US universities, hoping they’ll make future lives for themselves over there.
Sep 18, 2008 - 9:46 am 13. rvastar:We Americans – at least a sizeable portion – are standing up. Anytime the British (and other Westerners) are ready to stop calling us “warmongers” and do the same, they are more than welcome.
Political Correctness IS the problem…Its sole purpose is to shift the paradigm of day-to-day life by relabeling the participants.
Actually, it’s sole purpose is to help promulgate what Italian marxist Antonio Gramsci termed “the long march through the institutions [of the West]“.
Political correctness, multiculturalism, moral relativity: all are tools that the Left have developed, honed, and wielded with deadly precision in order to undermine the traditional values and institutions of Western Civilization – i.e. Judeo-Christian morality, traditional family structures, capitalism, and strong legal frameworks. To what end? Bluntly, to replace God with the state.
The problem is that in accomplishing their goals, they’ve created a civilization full of selfish, secular narcissists – filled with delusional women who think that Charlie’s Angels movies are real and with emotionally-stunted, emasculated men who’ll piss their pants if you yell at them too loudly. And none of whom have any deep-seated convictions, as they are mainly interested in providing for their own short-term pleasures and comforts. This is a lethal combination because it means that the only thing these people worship is the here-and-now, and they will prove to be no match for the Islamists in their midst who are willing to die for something that these secularized Europeans simply cannot comprehend.
These people – especially those in Europe – are in no way, shape, or form prepared for what is coming over the next 20-30 years. Reflecting on what he saw as the encroaching Islamization of Europe, gay Dutch author Oscar Van den Boogaard wrote “I am not a warrior, but who is? I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it.”
This sums up what the Left has done to Western Civilization, in the span of only 50 years. They have completely succeeded in Europe, where not even one of the native, national populations is meeting the minimum replacement rate in births. “Why have children? They’ll just keep me from doing what I want to do?”
And they are making more and more headway in the US – as is evidenced by the cult-like rise of an empty suit like Obama.
And do you want to know the most ironic part? It’s this: Europe won’t fall to the Muslims, but it is going to be engulfed in a bloody cultural war. And you know who’s going to come out on top? The far Right – the BNPs and the Front Nationals. Because these groups are the only ones who are going to have the will to violently resist a Muslim takeover. And once the masses of soft, pacifist Europeans feel the heat of the jihad, they will drop the Left like a wet towel. So, because they refuse to deal with the existential threat that Islam poses to Europe, the Left is actively advancing – albeit, unwittingly – a resurgence of far Right nationalism.
Believing in nothing…other than self-gratification.
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:08 am 14. rocketeer:Myism : “This population makes absolutely no effort to integrate and I struggle with my liberal laissez faire beliefs when confronted with this demographic phenomenon.” Don’t feel bad. This is a common problem among liberals, a failure to accept the reality of certain situations that there are bad people who want to do bad things to those that just want to get along.
We all know what the answer is, although very few of us are willing to admit it yet, but the time is coming when we won’t have any other choice. rvastar, you’re right on the money. I pray for Europe, because we’re not too far behind here in the States.
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Sep 19, 2008 - 3:21 am 16. Mary Jackson:Good piece.
Just to clarify, in the UK, “Asian” has generally meant people from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, rather than the Far East, as in the US.
“Asian” is now code for “Muslim”, and everyone knows that. But it annoys the hell out of Hindus and Sikhs, who have assimilated very well into our society.
Sep 19, 2008 - 5:19 am 17. Steynian 250 « Free Mark Steyn!:[...] BRITAIN’S JIHAD INDISTRY Exposed, by Mike McNally: “Saudi Arabia trains extremist clerics to preach hate and violence [...]
Sep 19, 2008 - 7:13 am 18. stephen beardsley:Tracing my heritage to the UK and Ireland it saddens me to see what England has come too. When I visited the Islands years ago the only person who would pick me up as a hitch hiking student was a muslim man going from Dublin to Galway. Everyone else was afraid too, as it was the day after the Hyde Park bombing by the IRA. My how things have changed. Watch the clip, I don’t Think Sin fean ever hated the english this much. PC will kill England eventually, already have an anesthetized archbishop of whatever comes next is good too. Just look at the Prince of Wales he never misses a chance to suck up to the Saudi Rasputins. I used to think the over the top pronoucements that England was soon to be Al Angliman were just the foder of right wing talk show hosts. More and more I begin to agree with radical American nationalist Michael Savage– soccer hoodlums– the last great hope for Britan. Like Rocketeer I fear we are not far behind. For more on what Drew Breeze writes, keep up to date @ Jihad watch.
Sep 19, 2008 - 11:11 am 19. zorro:muslims are the new century nazis
sieg heil allah !!!
Sep 19, 2008 - 7:08 pm 20. Patty:Sorry to point out the obvious but it sounds like you’re screwed.
Sep 19, 2008 - 8:18 pm 21. morlock watch:Hey, America, coming soon to a neighborhood near you …
unless we start doing something about it, like banning Islam all together in the US of A, and turning the mosques into rodeo palaces for Lilliputians.
Muslims are crazy. They’re beyond fanatical. They simply believe that they are correct to follow a murderer – Mohammed.
They recognize and respect Jesus as a prophet, but choose to not follow the second part of the greatest commandment: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” The paradox is, since they’re so bent on martyrdom in the name of Allah, it follows that they would want their neighbor to kill them. So, why not kill your neighbor, and treat him accordingly?
And, as long as they believe that, western civilization must rid itself of the plague they represent.
Sep 20, 2008 - 9:01 am 22. morlock watch:Sorry. I do not mean to say that all Muslims are crazies. But we’ve got quite a conundrum on our hands. Which of them are crazies, we don’t know – they don’t even know (and they’re all too willing to kill each other in the name of Allah knows what). Since there is no true way of telling, we are far better off to “require” that they all congregate in some far-away land, like Northern Africa and those parts of the Middle East not currently populated by Jews.
Oh, the poor Jews. What will become of them? Why they won’t abandon Israel and all come to the U.S., I don’t know. Suicide awaits them, if they stay there. While it would be the greatest pity for the Jews, and the West, to give up the Holy Land – and God might condemn me for saying this – to lose the Jews to a nuclear blast, and thus make the area uninhabitable for generations, would be far worse than allowing Muslims to overrun it. I vote for a new Diaspora.
Sep 20, 2008 - 9:44 am 23. Paul T.:You Brits didn’t think Germany was a problem until they marched thru France.
You better wake up and cut the crap or go purchase a prayer rug.
From an Americian Patriot….
Sep 20, 2008 - 9:49 am 24. morlock watch:Maybe there is some hope. Go to AP article:
Arabs denounce cleric’s fatwa on ‘immoral’ TV
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j9GxI_-gsB4_jGd7uSqQSjMZwNCQD939L27O0
Read about “killing Mickey Mouse.”
Sep 20, 2008 - 11:28 am 25. Judy, NYC:the brits have always been strange. it is their quirky nature, their odd class system, even their royal airs, that endear them to americans. and, their humor, their wit, makes us laugh. as they do not approve of getting overwrought, brits ignore much of what goes on around them. what else could have caused chamberlain to take his umbrella to germany and sit down with a monstrous creature like hitler and think he had a deal. now, as then, we are drowning in ignorance and denial. the difference is, we have no leaders anymore. greatness could save us, but there is none. we can, though, at the very least install those who are clear about what they stand against. anything else, signals our demise. if we go down, so do we all, the brits and the West. it is not hyperbole. the muslims are everywhere in europe, and in america, and they want to see western democracy dead, wherever it exists. muslim fanatics are in our schools, our universities, our government, our media. their money supply is endless and bottomless, and if we follow the money that supports mr. obama, i do not think we will like where it leads. it is especially worriesome with an economy in chaos, and with the chinese waffling on their american investments. vigilance won’t mean much when the horse has already left. islamists can buy us and rule. with obama in the presidency and the support of leftists, it is more likely. mccain-palin, while not economists, might put a lid on this urge to rule. perhaps trying to overtake us might not be such a good idea if you pay for it with your hair on fire.
Sep 20, 2008 - 2:32 pm 26. Michael T:The UK’s fucked. The loony left won’t stand up to the moslems.
Sep 20, 2008 - 11:22 pm 27. voyeur:“The UK’s fucked. The loony left won’t stand up to the moslems.”
The next couple of years are going to be interesting:-
1. ‘the loony left’ have only a limited time in power. There are politicians who are capable of ’standing up’ to the muslims, just that theyre not in power at the moment. Votes will have to put them there.
2. The recent wave of muslim immigration is largely dependant on welfare [including benefits for multiple wives]. Free NHS healthcare, housing benefit etc are the reason these people are migrating from the 3rd world. There are no jobs. The loony left allow them in because they vote for the loony left.
3. Recessions lead to social upheval of one sort or another. This one seems likely to be deeper than most, so the implications will also be deeper.
All this goes for the US, Canada and to a certain extent Australia also.
Sep 21, 2008 - 12:21 pm 28. Monty:The main point in the latest edition of Despatches, was not the hatred, supremacism and violence promoted by the speakers. It was the attendance.
That mosque was packed with enthusiasts. And there were many sessions, each lasting for a full 8 hour day, every Saturday and Sunday. It went on over several weeks.
If all those folk knew what to expect (and it seems they did- no objections were raised), and knew the venue and dates, the mosque committee had to have known.
And what of the congregation? Are we expected to believe that a “tiny minority” of extremists can fill a mosque every weekend for a festival of bloodlust, and none of them ever alerted the police?
Funny that….
There is a lot going on under the surface in Britain.
Sep 21, 2008 - 3:05 pm 29. thegr8 1:Some great posts up there. The radicals here and elsewhere, nazis, communists, radical Muslims, etc all want the same thing. To collapse the West’s financial, economic, and political syatems into something more to their liking.
Sep 21, 2008 - 3:54 pm 30. Sharia Courts Operational In Britain : The Sudanese Thinker:The Marriott bombing in Pakistan is tragic.
Every event like that that happens between now and Election Day will only help McCain. Let’s see Friday night at the Presidential foreign policy debate if Obama still wants to negotiate with these subhumans.
[...] what is wrong with you Brits? It doesn’t look to me like you’re doing enough. ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on [...]
Sep 22, 2008 - 3:54 am 31. Shocked!:Gee…am i ever confused. We have two opposite extremes dragging western societies to the Abyss. Radical feminism emasculating boys/men & now male dominated radical muslim’s waging Jihad in the western part of the world. Both groups well funded by same secretive elites. Does any wonder why our kids are deeply in drugs & alcohol? I suppose to comprehend the mental thinking our leaders experience when sober. Maybe i should indulge on the toxic stuff.
Nah…i think to have the answer while still sober. To break-down western traditional culture’s & economies in preparation for a NWO. These are instruments of powerful hidden forces.
Sep 22, 2008 - 12:32 pm 32. ep:I am astounded and saddened by the views expressed here.
Drew Brees: Islam is intrinsically extremist? I think you seriously misunderstand the concept of jihad – it is primarily about the inner struggle within the individual against the evil within their own mind and heart.
rvastar: ‘Judeo-Christian morality’ is the answer? I suggest you go and read a Bible – not much morality in the Old Testament, that I can recognise as such.
I abhor Wahabist extremism, Zionist extremism, Radical Separatist feminist extremism, Fundamentalist Christian extremism, nationalist extremism, and Western-society-is-the-best-ever-and-we-have-the-right-and-duty-to-crush-everyone-else extremism, along with all other forms, but what is most important in countering and eliminating extremism and its effects is a real understanding of why people adopt extremist beliefs and views.
Some of the young Muslim women and men born and raised in ‘the West’ are drawn into Wahabist extremism. Why is that? They are not ‘naturally’ more violent people, nor is Islam ‘inherently’ more violent than any other religion. In order to stop the adoption of Wahabist extremism by these young people, we need to understand why those that adopt them do so, and to understand that, we need to understand their lives and experiences. We can’t do that by dismissing them, or surrendering to our fear of the unfamiliar, however well-founded it feels.
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P.S. Paul T: Actually, we declared war against Germany when the German army invaded Poland; the treaty the UK had with Poland gave us the necessary, legal, cause to go to war against the Nazis.
Jan 6, 2009 - 3:54 pm