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		<title>By: ep</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/britains-jihad-industry-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-179590</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am astounded and saddened by the views expressed here. 

Drew Brees: Islam is intrinsically extremist? I think you seriously misunderstand the concept of jihad - it is primarily about the inner struggle within the individual against the evil within their own mind and heart.

rvastar: &#039;Judeo-Christian morality&#039; is the answer? I suggest you go and read a Bible - not much morality in the Old Testament, that I can recognise as such.


I abhor Wahabist extremism, Zionist extremism, Radical Separatist feminist extremism, Fundamentalist Christian extremism, nationalist extremism, and Western-society-is-the-best-ever-and-we-have-the-right-and-duty-to-crush-everyone-else extremism, along with all other forms, but what is most important in countering and eliminating extremism and its effects is a real understanding of &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; people adopt extremist beliefs and views. 

Some of the young Muslim women and men born and raised in &#039;the West&#039; are drawn into Wahabist extremism. Why is that? They are not &#039;naturally&#039; more violent people, nor is Islam &#039;inherently&#039; more violent than any other religion. In order to stop the adoption of Wahabist extremism by these young people, we need to understand why those that adopt them do so, and to understand that, we need to understand their lives and experiences. We can&#039;t do that by dismissing them, or surrendering to our fear of the unfamiliar, however well-founded it feels.

ep

P.S. Paul T: Actually, we declared war against Germany when the German army invaded Poland; the treaty the UK had with Poland gave us the necessary, &lt;b&gt;legal&lt;/b&gt;, cause to go to war against the Nazis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astounded and saddened by the views expressed here. </p>
<p>Drew Brees: Islam is intrinsically extremist? I think you seriously misunderstand the concept of jihad &#8211; it is primarily about the inner struggle within the individual against the evil within their own mind and heart.</p>
<p>rvastar: &#8216;Judeo-Christian morality&#8217; is the answer? I suggest you go and read a Bible &#8211; not much morality in the Old Testament, that I can recognise as such.</p>
<p>I abhor Wahabist extremism, Zionist extremism, Radical Separatist feminist extremism, Fundamentalist Christian extremism, nationalist extremism, and Western-society-is-the-best-ever-and-we-have-the-right-and-duty-to-crush-everyone-else extremism, along with all other forms, but what is most important in countering and eliminating extremism and its effects is a real understanding of <i>why</i> people adopt extremist beliefs and views. </p>
<p>Some of the young Muslim women and men born and raised in &#8216;the West&#8217; are drawn into Wahabist extremism. Why is that? They are not &#8216;naturally&#8217; more violent people, nor is Islam &#8216;inherently&#8217; more violent than any other religion. In order to stop the adoption of Wahabist extremism by these young people, we need to understand why those that adopt them do so, and to understand that, we need to understand their lives and experiences. We can&#8217;t do that by dismissing them, or surrendering to our fear of the unfamiliar, however well-founded it feels.</p>
<p>ep</p>
<p>P.S. Paul T: Actually, we declared war against Germany when the German army invaded Poland; the treaty the UK had with Poland gave us the necessary, <b>legal</b>, cause to go to war against the Nazis.</p>
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		<title>By: Shocked!</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/britains-jihad-industry-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-110917</link>
		<dc:creator>Shocked!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee...am i ever confused. We have two opposite extremes dragging western societies to the Abyss. Radical feminism emasculating boys/men &amp; now male dominated radical muslim&#039;s waging Jihad in the western part of the world. Both groups well funded by same secretive elites. Does any wonder why our kids are deeply in drugs &amp; alcohol? I suppose to comprehend the mental thinking our leaders experience when sober. Maybe i should indulge on the toxic stuff.

Nah...i think to have the answer while still sober. To break-down western traditional culture&#039;s &amp; economies in preparation for a NWO. These are instruments of powerful hidden forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee&#8230;am i ever confused. We have two opposite extremes dragging western societies to the Abyss. Radical feminism emasculating boys/men &amp; now male dominated radical muslim&#8217;s waging Jihad in the western part of the world. Both groups well funded by same secretive elites. Does any wonder why our kids are deeply in drugs &amp; alcohol? I suppose to comprehend the mental thinking our leaders experience when sober. Maybe i should indulge on the toxic stuff.</p>
<p>Nah&#8230;i think to have the answer while still sober. To break-down western traditional culture&#8217;s &amp; economies in preparation for a NWO. These are instruments of powerful hidden forces.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharia Courts Operational In Britain : The Sudanese Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharia Courts Operational In Britain : The Sudanese Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what is wrong with you Brits? It doesn&#8217;t look to me like you&#8217;re doing enough.  ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what is wrong with you Brits? It doesn&#8217;t look to me like you&#8217;re doing enough.  ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thegr8 1</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/britains-jihad-industry-exposed/comment-page-1/#comment-110519</link>
		<dc:creator>thegr8 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great posts up there. The radicals here and elsewhere, nazis, communists, radical Muslims, etc all want the same thing. To collapse the West&#039;s financial, economic, and political syatems into something more to their liking.
 The Marriott bombing in Pakistan is tragic.
 Every event like that that happens between now and Election Day will only help McCain. Let&#039;s see Friday night at the Presidential foreign policy debate if Obama still wants to negotiate with these subhumans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great posts up there. The radicals here and elsewhere, nazis, communists, radical Muslims, etc all want the same thing. To collapse the West&#8217;s financial, economic, and political syatems into something more to their liking.<br />
 The Marriott bombing in Pakistan is tragic.<br />
 Every event like that that happens between now and Election Day will only help McCain. Let&#8217;s see Friday night at the Presidential foreign policy debate if Obama still wants to negotiate with these subhumans.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main point in the latest edition of Despatches, was not the hatred, supremacism and violence promoted by the speakers. It was the attendance. 

That mosque was packed with enthusiasts. And there were many sessions, each lasting for a full 8 hour day, every Saturday and Sunday. It went on over several weeks.

If all those folk knew what to expect (and it seems they did- no objections were raised), and knew the venue and dates, the mosque committee had to have known.

And what of the congregation? Are we expected to believe that a &quot;tiny minority&quot; of extremists can fill a mosque every weekend for a festival of bloodlust, and none of them ever alerted the police?

Funny that....

There is a lot going on under the surface in Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main point in the latest edition of Despatches, was not the hatred, supremacism and violence promoted by the speakers. It was the attendance. </p>
<p>That mosque was packed with enthusiasts. And there were many sessions, each lasting for a full 8 hour day, every Saturday and Sunday. It went on over several weeks.</p>
<p>If all those folk knew what to expect (and it seems they did- no objections were raised), and knew the venue and dates, the mosque committee had to have known.</p>
<p>And what of the congregation? Are we expected to believe that a &#8220;tiny minority&#8221; of extremists can fill a mosque every weekend for a festival of bloodlust, and none of them ever alerted the police?</p>
<p>Funny that&#8230;.</p>
<p>There is a lot going on under the surface in Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: voyeur</title>
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		<dc:creator>voyeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The UK’s fucked. The loony left won’t stand up to the moslems.&quot;

The next couple of years are going to be interesting:-

1. &#039;the loony left&#039; have only a limited time in power. There are politicians who are capable of &#039;standing up&#039; to the muslims, just that theyre not in power at the moment. Votes will have to put them there.

2. The recent wave of muslim immigration is largely dependant on welfare [including benefits for multiple wives]. Free NHS healthcare, housing benefit etc are the reason these people are migrating from the 3rd world. There are no jobs. The loony left allow them in because they vote for the loony left.

3. Recessions lead to social upheval of one sort or another. This one seems likely to be deeper than most, so the implications will also be deeper.

All this goes for the US, Canada and to a certain extent Australia also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The UK’s fucked. The loony left won’t stand up to the moslems.&#8221;</p>
<p>The next couple of years are going to be interesting:-</p>
<p>1. &#8216;the loony left&#8217; have only a limited time in power. There are politicians who are capable of &#8217;standing up&#8217; to the muslims, just that theyre not in power at the moment. Votes will have to put them there.</p>
<p>2. The recent wave of muslim immigration is largely dependant on welfare [including benefits for multiple wives]. Free NHS healthcare, housing benefit etc are the reason these people are migrating from the 3rd world. There are no jobs. The loony left allow them in because they vote for the loony left.</p>
<p>3. Recessions lead to social upheval of one sort or another. This one seems likely to be deeper than most, so the implications will also be deeper.</p>
<p>All this goes for the US, Canada and to a certain extent Australia also.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK&#039;s fucked. The loony left won&#039;t stand up to the moslems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK&#8217;s fucked. The loony left won&#8217;t stand up to the moslems.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy, NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy, NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the brits have always been strange. it is their quirky nature, their odd class system, even their royal airs, that endear them to americans. and, their humor, their wit, makes us laugh. as they do not approve of getting overwrought, brits ignore much of what goes on around them. what else could have caused chamberlain to take his umbrella to germany and sit down with a monstrous creature like hitler and think he had a deal. now, as then, we are drowning in ignorance and denial. the difference is, we have no leaders anymore. greatness could save us, but there is none. we can, though, at the very least install those who are clear about what they stand against. anything else, signals our demise. if we go down, so do we all, the brits and the West. it is not hyperbole. the muslims are everywhere in europe, and in america, and they want to see western democracy dead, wherever it exists. muslim fanatics are in our schools, our universities, our government, our media. their money supply is endless and bottomless, and if we follow the money that supports mr. obama, i do not think we will like where it leads. it is especially worriesome with an economy in chaos, and with the chinese waffling on their american investments. vigilance won&#039;t mean much when the horse has already left. islamists can buy us and rule. with obama in the presidency and the support of leftists, it is more likely. mccain-palin, while not economists, might put a lid on this urge to rule. perhaps trying to overtake us might not be such  a good idea if you pay for it with your hair on fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the brits have always been strange. it is their quirky nature, their odd class system, even their royal airs, that endear them to americans. and, their humor, their wit, makes us laugh. as they do not approve of getting overwrought, brits ignore much of what goes on around them. what else could have caused chamberlain to take his umbrella to germany and sit down with a monstrous creature like hitler and think he had a deal. now, as then, we are drowning in ignorance and denial. the difference is, we have no leaders anymore. greatness could save us, but there is none. we can, though, at the very least install those who are clear about what they stand against. anything else, signals our demise. if we go down, so do we all, the brits and the West. it is not hyperbole. the muslims are everywhere in europe, and in america, and they want to see western democracy dead, wherever it exists. muslim fanatics are in our schools, our universities, our government, our media. their money supply is endless and bottomless, and if we follow the money that supports mr. obama, i do not think we will like where it leads. it is especially worriesome with an economy in chaos, and with the chinese waffling on their american investments. vigilance won&#8217;t mean much when the horse has already left. islamists can buy us and rule. with obama in the presidency and the support of leftists, it is more likely. mccain-palin, while not economists, might put a lid on this urge to rule. perhaps trying to overtake us might not be such  a good idea if you pay for it with your hair on fire.</p>
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		<title>By: morlock watch</title>
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		<dc:creator>morlock watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there is some hope.  Go to AP article:

Arabs denounce cleric&#039;s fatwa on &#039;immoral&#039; TV

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j9GxI_-gsB4_jGd7uSqQSjMZwNCQD939L27O0

Read about &quot;killing Mickey Mouse.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there is some hope.  Go to AP article:</p>
<p>Arabs denounce cleric&#8217;s fatwa on &#8216;immoral&#8217; TV</p>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j9GxI_-gsB4_jGd7uSqQSjMZwNCQD939L27O0" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j9GxI_-gsB4_jGd7uSqQSjMZwNCQD939L27O0</a></p>
<p>Read about &#8220;killing Mickey Mouse.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Brits didn&#039;t think Germany was a problem until they marched thru France. 
 You better wake up and cut the crap or go purchase a prayer rug. 

From an Americian Patriot....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Brits didn&#8217;t think Germany was a problem until they marched thru France.<br />
 You better wake up and cut the crap or go purchase a prayer rug. </p>
<p>From an Americian Patriot&#8230;.</p>
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