Comments on: California Considers Ditching Welfare

By: paul

paul — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:57:50 +0000

colony14 my wife has just started getting masive migrain headachs to the point she start puking, Just found out her brain was under devoloped at birth thus understanding why she gets headacks and is forgetting things cant focus on anything at all, she worked all her life but as of now has no way of keeping a job when shes puking her guts our cause of the stress and forgetting things after seeing 6 drs they have told her that she will never be able to work again. you might be thinking your cutting money from folks whom scam the system but what about folks whom were born with problems they couldnt help. and need our help, do we say forget u and throw um to the wolfes just a thought for your one sided comments

By: paul

paul — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:51:22 +0000

this is for blackwater If u ever get hurt or become disabled u will need the safety net and when its gone and your on the streets and have nothing u will say wow I was wrong, this very day folks whom were making six figures have lost everything and for the first time in there lifes are haveing to take what they can get thus getting food stamp and a very little bit of money just enough to keep roof over there heads, and you would have them put on the streets so crim would go up and hospitals bills would go up no insurence and all of us pay for that in the end, crime we pay for it thru our prison system. you want to cut money then stop prohibition on american folks leagle lise bud, make 1.3 then over crowded jails wich cost us 3.4 billion a year so far saves 4.7 billion dollors then add up police and lawers and judges theres another billion or so then add up all the farmers working and putting tax money back in the system not to mention green energy close and about 25000 othere uses for it, this would turn econimy around, ALSO I HURD CALIF. COULD USE ITS PROPERTIES AS COLATOROL FOR A STATE RUN BANKD ISSUING BANK CHECKS BACKED BY COLATOROL, THUS CALIF. BANKS COULD TAKE UP THE SLACK AND LOANS OTHER BANKS ARE NOT GIVEING. THUS MAKEING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLORS FOR CALIF. AND FIXING BUDGET WIN WIN FOR ALL DEM. AND REP. DONT HAVE TO BUDGE SAVES HEALTHCARE AND SAFETY NETS NO MORE TAX INCREASES MAYBE LESS TAXS, THUS CALIF. WOULD TURN THIS ECONIMY AROUND ON ITS OWN SO GOES CALIF. SO GOES THE COUNTRY SMART GOVERNMENT IS BESSED FOR US. WE CANT EXPECT A ACTOR TO FIX THE MESS LETS PUT SOMEONE IN THERE LIKE CALIF. SANFRNCISCO MAIR FOR GOVERNOR IN 2010 HES THE ONE WHOS GOING TO FIX THE MESS.

By: Colony14

Colony14 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:01:48 +0000

In California SSI pays an EXTRA Cash Check called SSP. It comes from the State of California, Tax Payers and goes to the General Fund where they drain it and give it to SSI Recipients along with their check each month.
In California ONLY, an SSI Individual get’s $907 and an SSI Couple get’s $1,569 per month.
You NEVER have to have worked a single day in your life to collect SSI/SSP.
California pays the HIGHEST to SSI/SSP recipients.
EVERYONE get’s qualified when their Case to get onto SSI/SSP goes to the ‘Administrative Law Judge’. And while they are qualifying for SSI/SSP, they get FREE LEGAL AID to do everything like their Appeals for them, FREE of Charge.
They ALWAYS get qualified by the Administrative Law Judge, that is only worried about, APPROVING their Claims and moving onto the next case.
When they get their Permenant SSI/SSP, they get a ‘WINDFALL Check’ from the Date they first Applied to the Date the Administrative Law Judge APPROVES them for LIFETIME Tax Free Checks.
It’s usually enough to buy a really nice car with CASH.
SSI/SSP’s can own a house of any size or any value whatsoever, even if it’s inherited paid for free and clear.
SSI/SSP pays ZERO taxes.
SSI/SSP is NOT SSDI, SSDI’s Worked and paid into the system and become disabled while they are still employed.
SSI/SSP’s don’t ever have to work, as a matter of FACT, most get onto SSI/SSP, straight off of CalWORKS because they don’t want to have to work, and they will be required to work just a tiny little bit to get their TANF checks, so they go to Social Security Offices instead to get approved and never have to work a day in their life.
The LARGEST Catagory of SSI/SSP recipients is the Catagory of MENTAL ‘Other’. This means, that recipients can say they are “Depressed” or have “Anxiety” from being a cronic Alcoholic, or a cronic Meth Addict, and they will Qualify and get paid for the rest of their lives to get high off TAX FREE Cash Checks!
California should CUT the SSP portion of the checks and turn them into EBT-Food Stamp Debit Cards and that way they could eat themselves into an early grave and make the world a better place without them being worthless and useless.

By: Michael C. Keehn

Michael C. Keehn — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:56:08 +0000

I speak from the viewpoint of an endangered (yet unprotected) rare occurrence of a native California conservative. With the State financial situation in arrears, and an already monumental tax burden, many of the affluent, whom shoulder the cost of the California government, are leaving the State as apparently gold can tarnish. My own family has made a progressive exodus. Recent events make me seriously question my decision to return to my home state following my military service. Should riots erupt, and the affluent are “punished” for our economic success following an elimination of welfare benefits, the camels back will break, and those with invested assets in the State will see that continued presence in the State is nothing more than a bottomless money pit. We will drive out the productive in droves, whom will cut losses and run, rather than wait for favorable positioning to move as they are now; The California economy will utterly collapse in the absence of enterprise and the highly productive. The alternative to raise taxes, is less severe, but still has the effect of hastening the exodus. That road eventually arrives at the same place albeit a few years further down the line. As much as it is near and dear to me because I live here, all should watch with interest; For how California goes, so goes the Nation. What we have done to ourselves is simply a few years ahead of the current National plan. Hopefully the rest of this great nation can learn from our mistakes, about the real dangers to society posed by large governments and wealth redistribution.

By: Coldwarrior57

Coldwarrior57 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:18:32 +0000

Good. The state needs to close down schools that are not producing, they need to turn OFF all services to any one that is not in the country legally.
We the people need to march on Sac, over run the capitol, toss out all the bumbs there, then turn to SF and tell the 9th circus to STAY OUT OF STATES right issues.

By: Habu

Habu — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:46:27 +0000

Was stationed in Santa Anna in the late fifties.
Was a great place and great people there. Had a excellent education system and population of smart and hard working people that contributed to what Cal. was. Returned to Oceanside in the late seventies and could see changes that weren’t for the better. Have been back to Cal. a couple of times in 04 and 07 and it it tragic what has been allowed to happen to that great
state through the policies of the politicians
and the liberals.

By: Tom Blumer

Tom Blumer — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:06:00 +0000

#49, CalWORKs is TANF in California, but you are right in that CA pays higher benefits than the Feds require, and does so out of its Treasury.

CA taxpayers are paying the supplements. US taxpayers are paying TANF. All are getting ripped off because hundreds of thousands are getting assistance who shouldn’t be getting it, based on other states’ experience.

By: whyyeseyec

whyyeseyec — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:08:48 +0000

California is not going to ditch welfare. In fact, I bet this is nothing more than a cynical attempt by the state to get pressure groups riled up to protest for another tax increase to save the `poor`.

California has so many Boards, Coalitions and Commissions it`s mind boggling. There are multi-millions that could be cut right there….

By: mobius2702

mobius2702 — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:06:43 +0000

All,
The bigger point here is that this will push MORE people onto the TANF Federal Assistance Program.
Correct me if I’m wrong (preferably nicely, but if you wanna be mean, g’head..) but isn’t CalWorks the state program? Is TANF separate from the state program in that TANF is federal?
The danger here (if I’m correct in my interpretation of Calworks vs TANF) is that as Californai eliminates Calworks, those who were using/abusing that system will instead flood TANF and use/abuse that system.

And then within 6 months, we’ll hear a public outcry over the TANF program, and start dumping more federal money into that.

Just something to keep an eye out for.

By: SoCalDem

SoCalDem — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:27:32 +0000

California already cut 10% of welfare payments, they cut Social Security Disability. The Federal government pays a part, but the part paid by the state has decreased to $179. The real problem in California is the fact that you have to be able to speak Spanish/English in order to get a job. Alot of jobs require you to be bilingual. Gee that sounds like discrimination doesn’t it. Americans are second class citizens in California.