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Can Obama Survive the Annenberg Cover-up?

If voters find out Obama was lying about his past, will it kill his chances in November?

August 24, 2008 - by Clarice Feldman

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Throughout the summer months, many voters supporting John McCain have been frustrated by his failure to respond forcefully to Obama’s charges against him. I felt his failure to swat about at each charge was because he was an old fighter pilot, taught to hold his fire and stay concealed as long as possible. If circumstances permitted, he would not budge until his opponent had made a potentially fatal move from which it was going to be exceedingly hard to extricate himself. Whether my assessment was right or not, it appears that the moment to strike has arrived, and like the old fighter pilot descending from the cloud cover, McCain has taken full advantage of Obama’s errors to place him in a position from which I can see no way out for him.

I’m talking about Obama’s role in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and his ill-conceived ad attacking McCain’s associations which opened the door for McCain to bring to public view something Obama has — with clear media connivance — lied about and tried to conceal: His close association with William Ayers in a program he botched.

The last thing Obama should want made public are his dubious associates. The public has had some exposure to his long time spiritual adviser, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, many have heard of the convicted Chicago fixer Tony Rezko, and some have just a bit of knowledge about William Ayers. As McCain said Wednesday: “[I]f Barack Obama wants to have a discussion about truly questionable associations, let’s start with his relationship with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, at whose home Obama’s political career was reportedly launched . Mr. Ayers was a leader of the Weather Underground, a terrorist group responsible for countless bombings against targets including the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon and numerous police stations, courthouses and banks. In recent years Mr. Ayers has stated, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs. … I feel we didn’t do enough.’”

The background of this matter has been hashed out for some months online at Slate, The American Thinker, Just One Minute and Global Labor. National Review Online joined in more recently. But if you missed the story or were unable to keep up with it, it began when Obama lied about the extent of his relationship with Ayers and the press gave him a pass. Obama gave varying accounts of this relationship:

“…a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received an official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from (sic) on a regular basis.”

“Now, Mr. Ayres is a 60 plus year old individual who lives in my neighborhood, who did something I deplore 40 years ago when I was six or seven years old. By the time I met him, he was a professor of education at the University of Illinois.”

So, the story was that Ayers was an old professor in Mr. Obama’s neighborhood who just happened to host a fundraiser for him in 1995 which launched his political career.

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Clarice Feldman is a retired litigation lawyer who lives in D.C. She's a news junkie addicted to the internet.

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113 Comments

1. Saltherring:

“This story is going to kill Obama at the polls.”

Let’s hope and pray that this is so. Obama is far beyond your average Democrat socialist, he is an anti-American criminal of the first degree. In its total failure to unmask this charlatan, is the mainstream media mesmerized, indoctrinated, foolish, complicit or all the above?

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:20 am 2. Rubicon:

This story, which I too feel will hurt Obama with many who want our education system to greatly improve, and especially since its performance over the past twenty years has been nothing more than abysmal, will never receive the coverage by the media it deserves to do it any real credit.
Few Americans realize the Bill Ayers that has been mentioned in the media, is “the” Bill Ayers who was involved in activities many classify as, sedition. While Vietnam was unpopular because the media pounded that perspective into the nations consciousness every day for years, the stateside activities of many opposed to the war, angered Americans who felt these opposition activities were doing more harm to us than even the enemy on the field.
Just how despicable these opposition groups were has never fully been revealed. Today, based on the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), & other historic information, Americans could be schooled in the extent of those activities and how dangerous the perpetrators were.
I predict that no matter how much information is revealed, the old establishment mainstream media will stall, gloss over, minimize, and trivialize every aspect while also evasively avoiding specific identification of those involved. Each individual will be “‘allegedly’ associated” with activities, while those associations will be portrayed as lose or distant & as yet unproven, so the least amount of mud will stick to anyone, and especially their Messiah, Obama!
The “Media Research Center” has just released a study on Obama, McCain, and stories about them and conservatives & liberals. That study, which was exhaustive, clearly shows that the media is not only biased in its reporting, it appears to me that the media have actually become partisan organized arms of the Democrat party.
Fox News will try to expose some of this, but even they will probably temper much of it. The Internet will make a valiant effort to expose each & every nasty detail, but how effectively the Internet can reach enough Americans will only be realized long after the elections.
At this point, all we can do is remain vigilant looking for every tidbit, morsel, and crumb that can be found. Once discovered we can try to communicate this to as many as possible with hope they too will pass the information along for others to read about.
Its up to “we the people” at this point to make sure America learns Obama’s allies and confidants, are actual Marxists and communists whose agenda is nothing less than the total destruction of this nation & the enslavement of the people into the best of the socialist traditions of oppression, poverty, and degradation.
Lets do our part patriots!

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:30 am 3. Harry Schell:

Obama lying about his past?

Like, this is not already proven?

The only question is how much he has been lying and about what.

A classic is claiming he didn’t understand what Wright was saying, while the woman he is married to clearly does. Having been married, I can guarentee this is inaccurate, to say the least and be polite.

Aug 24, 2008 - 8:20 am 4. Insufficiently Sensitive:

The public might become concerned about Obama’s fluffy job with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and his playing mega-Santa Claus to ‘educational improvement’ groups – if the MSM were to make any real effort to learn the details and present them to the public.

But read the goals and mission statements in the CAC incorporation – they say nothing specific at all, being vast noxious clouds of meaningless do-gooder statements. It’s the details we need of the organizations (and their leaders) supported or created by those lavish millions (over 110 of ‘em) , and some idea of what those organizations did beyond attempting to hijack Chicago education from its elected school boards. They did NOT improve performance of Chicago students. So, what else did they do?

I can’t help wondering if those millions didn’t do, for Ayers and Obama and their leftie friends, what the millions poured by the Soviet Union into the USA up into the 1980s did for the cause of Communism – that is, create furtive organizations with lavish public relations budgets to bollix, confuse and counteract the domestic democratic process in the US.

Judging by the kneejerk anti-Americanisms that pop up all too frequently in the MSM, it’s beyond belief that they’d dig very far into the doings of the CAC to determine what skulduggery was committed under its endless funding, under the direction of the Obama who prefers glittering generalities to any specific declaration of policies. Just like the CAC incorporation papers.

Oh, yeah, he’s FOR good and AGAINST evil. Thank God, I’d forgotten.

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Aug 24, 2008 - 9:19 am 6. Roy:

Unfortunately, the people who read the information presented here are in the minority. Most voters only know what they read or see in the MSM — and, unless the National Enquirer picks up the story few people will even know about this cover-up.

Obama = Carter+ A dismal thought.

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Aug 24, 2008 - 9:23 am 8. M. Simon:

It is not just Ayers.

Obama got his start as a community organizer in a neighborhood controlled by politically active gangs.

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:29 am 9. RJ:

Any farmer worth his salt will tell you that soil is very important to the seed.

Obama comes from a soil that suggests (to me) he has a very distorted and lopsided perspective of America.

I will not vote for him, nor for his party and all their candidates and issues. This does not mean I endorse the other parties and their issues and candidates.

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:35 am 10. rlmorel:

“…because he was an old fighter pilot…”

A distinction the author should know is that McCain was not a fighter pilot, he was an attack (bomber) pilot. He was my CO for a period of time, and my squadron (VA-46) that I was in was the same one he was in when he was on the USS Forrestal…

To people who pay attention to these things, it is not an insignificant error…:)

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:44 am 11. rlmorel:

…That said, I agree with the article.

As Richard Nixon once famously said about Alger Hiss: “If the American people understood the real character of Alger Hiss, they would boil him in oil.”

I do believe the majority of Americans would feel the same about Obama.

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:48 am 12. The Obama-Ayers Cover-up Continues | Americans Against Obama:

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Aug 24, 2008 - 9:48 am 13. pickled herring:

The media is going to bury this story, and all others like it. In fact, the media is going to work with Obama to turn the tables on McCain for trying to bring this to light.

Obama has twice, three times the money that McCain has, and he will use it to flood the airwaves, with support from the media who want that money, with everything they can muster to make McCain look bad.

Aug 24, 2008 - 10:25 am 14. Claire Solt:

I have long thought that Hannity should broaden his coverage of Ayers to feature his actual ideas of teaching socoialism. Sounds like this is just graft. The journalist Kuntz who foound out about these records is doing a very good job. He also did an analysis os writing my Obama and local papers when Obama was in state legislature.

Aug 24, 2008 - 10:30 am 15. L.:

GET THIS STORY OUT INTO THE MSM….WHATEVER IT TAKES…STOP THE MSM COVERUP FOR ‘THE ONE’!!!!

Aug 24, 2008 - 10:46 am 16. goy:

“We can’t have education without revolution. We have tried peace education for 1,900 years and it has failed. Let us try revolution and see what it will do now.”

Some of you may know who uttered these words in the months that led up to the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917. Those who don’t, take a guess. Lenin, you say? Trotsky? Stalin? Keep reading…

The above sentiment is important because it has become the fundamental tenet of curriculum “reform” in American Ed. schools. It’s the notion at the heart of constructivist ed. philosophy: the ‘outcome based’ education of John Dewey, where today “educators” have become “guides on the side” who run a daycare center where “learners” construct their own truths and their own knowledge in chaotic group-grope activities, where a few do all the work and the rest simply coast, but of course everyone – collectively – gets the credit.

And of course the credit is not based on actual grades – that might create self-esteem issues for the “learners” (God forbid they should instead develop a sense of individuality, independence and self-respect). And of course the credit can’t be based on testing because multiculturalism dictates that no test can be “fair” for all – especially if it’s written in English. And of course the “work” all revolves around “social justice”, “environmental sustainability”, “diversity”, “tolerance”, multiculturalism, and a critical, one-sided focus on the very worst of human history. Math? Science? Philosophy? The rest of History? Sorry… that’s an exercise left for the student. Except one can’t use the term “student” any more because the notion of “Teacher/Student” implies an actual responsibility for, you know… teaching. Instead, we have:

“Education is not preparation for life, but rather education is life itself, an active process in which everyone— students and teachers– participates as co-learners.”

Wonder why Johnny Can’t Read today? This is why. Because American Education, at its heart, has been co-opted by la Revolucion (Bolivariana!), and transmuted into a system only someone like the cynical, America-loathing Michelle Obama could have designed.

And just so. Because the “no education without revolution” sentiment was at the heart of the failed CAC effort. How do we know? Simple. Barack Obama’s close working associate, philosophical comrade and the motive force behind the CAC fiasco – Bill Ayers – quoted this line as recently as 2006 in a speech he and his son delivered to a forum for educational “reform” in Venezuela. Ayers began this speech with the following:

“President Hugo Chavez, Vice-President Vicente Rangel, Ministers Moncada and Isturiz, invited guests, comrades.”

“Comrades”. No shit.

Let’s be clear: people like Ayers are not “the fringe” of American Education reform – he and those who think like him are considered mainstream:

…I’ll be very frank, [Ayers] has been in the forefront of a lot of education issues and helping us in public schools and things like that.” – Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley

If you read Ayers’ screed, you will readily see where Ayers has taken the educational “reform” programs he’s pursued. This is a person who is still parroting the sentiment above, despite its blatant lack of validity. Why? Because this sentiment confirms Ayers’ idolatry of Marxism AND carries the weight of its author’s other outstanding achievements.

That author was Helen Keller. And she was dead wrong.

Keller’s premise – even then – was demonstrably false. Her irrational, reckless conclusion – “Let us try [Marxist] revolution and see what it will do…” – can be forgiven somewhat because of her naivete: she did not have the benefit of the historical record we enjoy today, almost 100 years (and 150,000,000 lost lives) later. That record, which people like Hugo Chavez, Bill Ayers – and Barack Obama – insist upon ignoring, informs us in every way necessary that Marxism has failed, utterly, in every venue where it’s ever been applied – with attendant violence, cultural devastation and loss of life in the millions.

By rights, what should really come out of this fiasco – aside from Obama’s ignominious defeat in November – is a laser focus on this issue.

So… how will the media spin this when they’re forced – as they were with the Edwards scandal – to finally cover it?

Will they turn on Obama the way they initially did on Edwards, pretending to be the public equivalent of ‘betrayed spouse’ so that they can deflect attention away from this much larger and much more important issue?

Will they try to make Ayers out to be a ‘true American hero’ who has worked ‘diligently’ to improve education for decades. And if so, one wonders how well his “Viva Presidente Chavez! Viva La Revolucion Bolivariana!” will play in Peoria (apparently it goes down just fine in Chi-town).

Will they try to portray Ayers as a ‘domestic insurgent’, and his WU activities as a fight against “the same kind of Needless War™ Bush started in Iraq (single-handedly, of course), and which McCain naturally wants to continue”?

Will they try to spin this as just part of Obama’s ‘experience-building’ – even though it’s the ONLY time Teh One has ever held an executive leadership position, and even though the CAC program only finished (exactly) 5 years ago?

Will they double down and start quoting Helen Keller’s irrational embrace of Communism?

It’s not obvious to the general public, but the party faithful know they could be on the ropes with this one. So anything’s possible.

Aug 24, 2008 - 10:59 am 17. BDP:

RL,
Thank you for your service.
We have one of your shipmates here in central PA, he is a producer at local radio station a wonderful man.
Ayers matters it all matters. PA did a fine job in primary it is very doable that it will go red in nov.

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:04 am 18. Jim:

Logically, this story (like many others) should kill off his candidacy, but it won’t. Conservatives seriously underestimate the damage Bush has done to their cause and their credibility. If you can’t catch him with a “dead girl or a live boy” as they say, it ain’t going to do the trick.

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:17 am 19. Cory:

Now that the paper’s “owner” and the university have had plenty of time to remove or scrub documents that would potentially harm Obama, I’m not sure their release on Tuesday will actually serve any purpose.

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:23 am 20. BB:

I believe we need change, but not at the expense of ideals, and future. What’s next “Civil War II”, The Divided States of America? Can we attempt to address ALL of the issues we have…at one time? That is Obama’s thinking, get in and change it all, good or bad…and let’s see how it plays out. Are we willing to accept the outcome of this strategy…whatever it may be? Not me!

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:23 am 21. RightwingCowboy:

What I’d like to know is why haven’t the “right” blogs and conservative talk shows glammed onto the lawsuit filed in the federal courts of eastern Pennsylvania against Obama accusing his campaign to offering two forged birth certificates saying he was born on US soil. From what I have been able to piece together he was born in Kenya to an 18 year old mother which barred him from being registered as an American citizen later in Hawaii. Then he was adopted by his Indonesian step-father, further negating American citizenship.
What? Are we going on intentions here too, instead of the laws of the United States?

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:35 am 22. JotheExDem:

Ayers is probably busy destroying records, re-writing assessments, distorting the project results, removing Obama’s name from meeting attendance lists, removing the names of felons from fund recipient lists and confusing the record of abject failure of the project. When his alterations are complete, they will release the files.

Aug 24, 2008 - 12:41 pm 23. Andy:

My sense is the MSM has already buried it and sees no reason to revive it. It’s going to be up to bloggers and Republican organizations to get the word through the media haze.

http://blog.topicaltopics.net/2008/08/who-is-bill-ayers-and-why-does-he-matter/

Aug 24, 2008 - 12:51 pm 24. Kathy P:

How do we get these stories prime time media coverage before it’s too late?? What can we, the average Joe (or Jill) do?

The lack of media coverage and control of the message being communicated is like USSR and today’s China. Scary.

Aug 24, 2008 - 12:52 pm 25. goy:

- Conservatives seriously underestimate the damage Bush has done to their cause and their credibility.

Oh please.

The damage you’re referring to was done almost solely through the lies, misdirection, misfeasance, malfeasance, misrepresentation, fauxtography and outright treason committed by the AP/CNN/Reuters/NYT media hierarchy.

Here’s the fantasy the media has projected 24/7, for the past eight years:

- We’re in the middle of The Second Great Depression where wealthy people pay no taxes and half the country is out of work.

- We’re wrongly allied with “aggressors” like Israel because she defends herself with “disproportionate” force; we’re wrongly attacking Islamist ‘insurgents’ who indiscriminately blow up their neighbors and wrongly criticizing countries like Russia for “reclaiming” their rightful territories.

- Blacks suffered and died needlessly in New Orleans because Bush didn’t keep the levies from overtopping and then delayed assistance on purpose.

- We’ve just lost World War IV – a Needless War™ Bush single-handedly started with lies about WMDs – which resulted in millions of civilian casualties and the “outing” of a covert CIA operative whose husband never lied about what he didn’t find in Africa.

The reality of EVERY aspect this narrative, and so much more, is exactly the opposite of the media’s ongoing fantasy – a fantasy with which they’ve been relentlessly beating the public ever since Al Gore failed to carry his own home state in the 2000 Election.

From the standpoint of actual leadership, Bush’s administration has been an abysmal. But he is not the one who has damaged conservative credibility.

Aug 24, 2008 - 1:04 pm 26. atruehuman:

After reading the comments of all these no doubt, caucasian supremacists, it really helps one to understand that nothing has really changed in America except age. the fear of losing this so called sense of white priviledge and supremacist dogma that caucasians have enjoyed for too damn long is prevalent in these blogs. Well stop worrying, your s@%! is still intact. Obama is not going to “change” your system or your crap, although it needs to be taken down and something more inclusive and humane in its place. How can he? You all have been doing this for centuries of centuries. He’s just one person with just as much caucasian blood as negroid. Don’t worry! Your time has not come—yet. All things unjust, oppressive, abusive, not right must end.

It is amazing that you all talk about this crap as if the evil that your folks has done, to all kinds of folk not like yourselfs, for more than centuries never happend or was “right.”

Go figure.

Aug 24, 2008 - 1:11 pm 27. POLITICS: Obama’s Annenberg Challenge Problem and His Deliberate Misleeds on Weatherman Bill Ayers | ...gettingpaidtowatch:

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Aug 24, 2008 - 1:20 pm 28. USPatriot:

These Annenberg files are supposed to be released by the University library on Tuesday for public consumption. If the files have not been scrubbed clean by Ayers and his University of Illinoise cronies, they will indeed by another very large nail in the proverbial coffin of the illigitimate candicacy of one Barack Obama. Spurious = Barack Obama.

Aug 24, 2008 - 1:39 pm 29. goy:

afauxhuman – still trying to make this all about ‘race’ and “your folks”, aren’t you.

Sorry, that dog’s been retired ‘cuz it won’t hunt.

Pay attention: no one who is criticizing Obama’s lack of integrity, lack of ethics, lack of wisdom, lack of experience and lack of credibility gives a flying fig what race(s) he is.

Aug 24, 2008 - 1:44 pm 30. mike:

You are out of your mind if you think this will make any difference. If it hasn’t at this point, why should it? Of all the problems we have to worry about, “Annenberg” isn’t one of them.

Aug 24, 2008 - 1:45 pm 31. Evil Pundit:

Interesting to note that Atrollhuman can’t actually refute any of the points that have been made, but is reduced to spewing racist hate.

Aug 24, 2008 - 1:56 pm 32. Sam Nobody:

You guys are bunch of morons, this is so out there.

Have you look into this about questionable association? These are facts.

Mortgage crisis 2008 any one?? Whinners!!!! So bring on the negatives.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2932mccain.html

On Oct. 15, 1982, President Ronald Reagan signed into law the Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act, otherwise known as “Garn-St Germain,” after the principal Congressional sponsors. As a direct result of this disastrous deregulation legislation, within the span of a decade, a small tightly organized network of financial pirates—many with close ties to the Meyer Lansky National Crime Syndicate—would pull off the biggest heist in American history. By the early 1990s, the U.S. savings and loan industry (S&Ls)—once the backbone of the home mortgage industry and the preferred safe depository of household savings—was wiped out. Many of America’s oldest industrial corporations were looted and left for dead, through hostile takeovers, engineered by junk bond financing. To untangle the S&L carnage, the Federal government created the Reconstruction Trust Corporation (RTC) and eventually shelled out $200-250 billion in taxpayers’ money, to avert an even deeper collapse of the U.S. real estate and banking sectors.

A handful of the crooks—including Ivan Boesky, Michael Milken, and Charles Keating—were imprisoned for their roles in the looting scheme. Briefly, a few members of Congress were spotlighted and slapped on the wrists for their own profiteering and coverup efforts. But the full extent of this criminal looting of America was barely known, and today is largely forgotten. The biggest political beneficiary of the public’s amnesia is John McCain. With the exception of Sen. Joseph Lieberman’s (D-Conn.) own ties to hedge fund bandit Michael Steinhardt, no American politician is as beholden to organized crime as the senior Senator from Arizona and would-be 2004 “Bull Moose” spoiler candidate for the Presidency.

Aug 24, 2008 - 2:03 pm 33. Donna:

atruehuman: Cut the kneejerk racism charge, fool. Nobody’s buying it.

And race has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Ayers isn’t black.

On second thought, though, I suppose racism does have something to do with this story. Poor minority kids in Chicago are stuck in failing schools and received no substantial help from the Annenberg Challenge at all. Obama, Ayers, and Co. frittered away $50 million and thanks to creative recordkeeping (that’s the Chicago Way!) we’ll never know what happened to it.

But that’s the Left – they primp and preen about their moral superiority while in the real world, they accomplish nothing of value for the people they pretend to care about so deeply.

Aug 24, 2008 - 2:08 pm 34. Evil Pundit:

Ooh, a Larouchie! I haven’t seen one of them for a while. Sam Nobody, please tell us about how Queen Elizabeth II runs the heroin trade. I’ve always liked that story.

One more desperate attempt to derail the thread by distracting attention from Obama’s close association with unrepentant terrorists. You can tell it’s a campaign-threatening issue because of the sheer frenzy of the trolls trying to cover it up.

Aug 24, 2008 - 2:39 pm 35. Dark Helmet:

sam nobody,

‘no American poitician is as beholden to organized crime’, would you be talking about…. jfk? You’re not a rational mind, are you?

Aug 24, 2008 - 2:44 pm 36. Riley:

I live live in the state of Illinois, I have followed the BUM ( OBAMA’S } so called politcal service in Illinois. What a total joke that was, his voteing record stinks to hell. { OBAMA } is nothing more the a lying CHI TOWN MOB pawn.

OBAMA 2008
HELL NO

Aug 24, 2008 - 2:44 pm 37. Wil:

atruehuman
Sorry , but your interpretation of more inclusive and more humane is analogous with the Soviet gulags , Nazi concentration camps , Khmer Rouge’s Killing Fields and Mao’s Cultural Revolution . For your info , other racial groups did the same thing like the white people did in terms of genocide . Ever heard of Tamerlane , how about Genghis Khan , how about Sultan Mehmed . Ever heard of the catastrophic Islamic invasions of India where millions of Hindus ,Buddhist and animists died . Contemporary western armies could not match that death toll inflicted by those muslim armies upon the Hindus . How the Africans , don’t you know that ancient africans had already had the practice of selling fellow africans as slaves ever since the Gaza pyramids was being built and the practice is still continued today in countries such as Sudan and Mauritania where slavery is the best kept or worse kept secret depending on who you ask . How about China , ask yourself this question , how many chinese died building the Great Wall of China for the Chinese emperors . How about India’s mythic Kurukshetra War where more than 3 million warriors died in 18 days . The battles of WWI paled in comparison to the blood letting of that ancient war.
Please , atruehuman . Your ignorance of history is appalling . All races and cultures are blood thirty if given a chance , the only reason why you attack white people for supposed crimes and ignoring others is that they were successful .

Aug 24, 2008 - 2:45 pm 38. Boris:

This is the best you guys can do?

“The truth is that the two men worked closely together for years, beginning several months before that 1995 fundraiser. The fund Obama chaired and which was supposed to improve public education in Chicago never met its stated purpose of improving public school pupils’ performance and, in fact, probably hindered it, despite having blown through $110 million in the process. And as chairman of this group Obama funneled this money to politically useful types including Fidelistas and Maoists who like Ayers (now vice-president elect of the American Education Research Association) are working to make our public schools indoctrination centers for the left .”

[x] no evidence
[x] right wing conspiratorial tone
[ ] story that will hurt Obama

Aug 24, 2008 - 3:04 pm 39. RMEOSES:

Seems to me that obama is the crook from way back and now he wants to be president to mingle with ben Laden and you obama fands will come to see he will sell America out .oh and where is obamas change seems as thought hes lied there as well taking biden for his vice wow crooks already at work making more changes .but you obama and ben Laden corrks well take care of you when your sold out .Vote john mccain a true American hero.

Aug 24, 2008 - 3:56 pm 40. goy:

Boris, just accept it: Obama tried to play the ‘unsavory associations’ game and lost. Further proof that he doesn’t have the experience to play politics with adults.

You want evidence? Just read CAC’s final report.

You want conspiracies? Sorry to disappoint you.

You want a story that will further destroy the “lead” the media has manufactured for Obama? Stay tuned.

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:05 pm 41. alease:

You all are crazy. You are a bunch of racist rightwing lunatics. You cannot really believe this crap, I don’t know how I clicked on to this thinking it was a reputable sight. you disgust me and if the realistic people left in America knew of this crap!! They would be ashamed to be a
Americans. may God hace mercy on your souls!!!!

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:20 pm 42. lynda silva:

What in the world are people thinking? Obama is not good for the country, in fact he is going to cause major problems. The Country should come first before the left or right. I feel that there is just to many questionable people in his past to trust him with leading our country. My mother always told me ” you are known by the company you keep.” Enough said!

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:22 pm 43. RMEOSES:

Obama has taken thousand or dollars and has campained with welfare dollars from the chicago children funds thanks to ayers who has laundered money with Tony Rozeko and you fools want this idiot in the white house ?no thanks I wont vote for no promising and with it all writing on the wall for no more crooks.and wheres his change by taking biden for his vice wow more lies coming out more and more every day These crooks will stop at nothing to get elected .well bring it on obama will not be president of america and he will be escorted out of America befor its over and take his ugly wife with him .aND aMERICAN IS ASHAMED OF HER AS WELL AND WILL NOT BE SOLD OUT BY THIS BUNCH OF CROOKS.vote John Mccain a true Amrican and a great American hero.

Aug 24, 2008 - 4:25 pm 44. fred:

Outstanding posts, goy. The interesting story is going to be how the MSM spins this, or covers it up, or applies language of denial and disclaimer.

As a veteran of the revisionist Marxist Left thirty years ago (I left the Left in 1987) I know how deeply the Marxists have burrowed into academia. It’s a lot worse than the public realizes. Plus nobody uses the words socialism/Marxism/Communism anymore to describe their ideological proclivities. They call themselves “progressives” and this is what gives them the cover to do what they do without a lot of suspicion.

I knew many people when I was on the Left who were either Socialists or Communists and they always insisted on being called “progressives.” Most of the recent college grads have been inoculated with soft-Marxism and do not even know it. Very few suspect it. Even fewer have studied the history of ideas at any depth.

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:07 pm 45. bill:

McCain is perfect for the republican party. Just a bunch a bitter people that will always find something wrong with the other party, be it democratic, independent, etc. No matter how you dance around it, it scares you to death that a black man could be president. By the way I am a former Republican, white and middle aged. I was a supporter of McCain until he become a whipping boy for the Bush group and the so called christians. For all you bigots out there Obama is half white you know.

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:34 pm 46. ice:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/21/ayers-in-2006-weather-underground-a-great-teaching-moment/

when this gets out it won’t be pretty

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:36 pm 47. Sunday Links : Stop The ACLU:

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Aug 24, 2008 - 5:37 pm 48. fred:

The hysterical remarks of foreigners like “alease” should serve to remind us all that it is a good thing that this is OUR election, not theirs. The foreign media largely are in the tank for Obama even more rabidly than our own MSM. We have enough of an alternative media that can investigate these matters, and you will not find this kind of investigative journalism overseas.

It’s proof positive that our political system is superior to theirs and what we stand to lose if we allow socialists to take over the country.

Trust me. I used to be one of those socialists. I would not trust any of my former comrades as far as I could spit.

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:50 pm 49. Don:

I would love for someone in the MSM to ask Obama what’s the difference between William Ayers and Tim McVey [ other than McVey was better at his work than Ayers ] It would be interesting to see what his answer would be. I wonder if he would have taken advise from McVey in his later years, oh I forgot he was executed.

Aug 24, 2008 - 5:51 pm 50. Lonzo Lucas II:

You Republicans are all the same claiming to be so self-righteous when your house is burning as well. Get a grip you harbor many more criminals amongst your rank than any other political party in the nation. Charlatans.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:07 pm 51. goy:

Thanks fred, much appreciated. One ‘Nana-J’ tried to foist the “progressives are not Marxists or Communists” canard onto the PJM audience a couple weeks back. Scroll down for responses.

Have you also noticed that the standard comeback from self-anointed “progressives” these days – when one expresses any sort of anti-Marxist sentiment – now typically involves sarcastic put-downs involving the “Red Scare” or accusations that one is some sort of paranoid, McCarthyite, right-wing conspiracy monger?

Conversely, it’s just so cool to be Che.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:08 pm 52. fred:

bill,

I would vote for a black man. No problem. Just not this black man. How about Dr. Thomas Sowell? Do you know who he is? I can think of other names of prominent black intellectuals and politicians who I would vote for. Without hesitation.

This is not about racism. That bogus word keeps getting slung around like a bunch of inexperienced gunslingers with poor muzzle control. Not one shot hits the target. There is no real target, just a straw man.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:31 pm 53. Javelin:

What exactly is being covered up? We all know he knows Ayers and there is only so much you can wring out of that. Is there a big scandal associated with this CAC? All I hear is more sleay guilt by association claims. Unless there is a major scandal that can be tied to Barack, where’s the beef? McCain was also involved with Keatings and the S&L scandals of the 1980’s but I don’t see that is getting much spin eithere.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:37 pm 54. Wil:

bill

Sorry , I’m Asian and I’m from Chicago and truth be told , I don’t want anybody that have the backing of Mayor Richard Daley , Governor Blagojevich and the entire Illinois Democratic party to become the President of the United States and it does not matter if Obama is white, half white , black , african black , yellow , green , rainbow or brown . And I don’t care that you are white and middle aged and a former Republican either . Tell me what Obama achieved in his first term as Senator , how about when he was serving as a state senator in Springfield , give me his achievements and the bills he crafted himself and are now part of Illinois law . How about his achievements as a community organizer . I will give you a painful hint , if not for Emil Jones , if not for the media helping him in the senatorial elections and sad to say , if he is as white as Hillary , the Democratic party would not even talk to him to become a presidential candidate because he lacks the essential necessities to become president . The only reason why he is the contender is because he is an articulate and well educated mixed race black who speaks to every craving of the Democratic Party’s Leftist members .

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:40 pm 55. albert:

Why don’t you guys get and life and a real job.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:49 pm 56. BigDaddy Left:

The thing about blogs and posts and online discussions is that the only people reading your stuff are the ones who already agree with you. Every story has a slant to it and this one definately slants Right. Somewhere the truth is out there but it’s easy to tell it is not coming from you guys.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:53 pm 57. BigDaddyleft:

The foriegn media is not as investigative? Have you watched the BBC? What an idiot. Our Media is so ridiculous that it’s a waste of time to read anything they put out. Get a clue and stop pretending to be a former socialist. It does not help lend credibility when your dumb.

Aug 24, 2008 - 6:57 pm 58. Burns:

It is great that people can express their opinions here. [ Well, as long as they agree with the common thread.] Keep up your hard work and add your comments here. Other sites should not get cluttered with this sort of editorial slander.

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:09 pm 59. Roger:

McCain better remember the skelton’s in his closet. Bush, Cheney, Keating, Abramoff et al. McCain has a lot more shady characters in his past (and who added to his bank account) than Obama ever would and on top of all of this he had them in his past WHEN they were doing their dirty dealing, not decades after when they were trying to do what was right by improving the lives of the working people. Oh, and wait until the ‘deals’ on the houses (I think we are up to either 8 or 10 now) he and Cindy got start being investigated.

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:29 pm 60. fred:

BigDaddyleft,

I used to listen to the BBC years ago, but no longer. High reputation for investigative reporting? Where was the BBC on the story about the deal 10 Downing Street cut with the al Sadr Mahdi Army, so that the British forces had to go into garrison in Basrah? Nowhere to be found. Where is the BBC on reporting about Obama’s Communist mentor in Hawai’i? Not a peep. It took a reporter out of New Zealand named Kincaid to break that story.

You’re just biased. If you weren’t, you would not be over here trying to cut down Clarice Feldman’s credibility and insulting us. You and people like you come here just to show the flag for whoever your candidate is. Bravo. You’re brave. At least you aren’t banned here and your comments deleted, as I’ve seen conservatives treated over at DailyKos and the Democrat Underground.

Ms. Feldman’s story scares the shit out of the Obama camp and his mainstream media supporters. You won’t see the foreign press jumping on this and running with it, because they are in the tank for Obama too.

I listened to the BBC during the eighties and nineties. I NEVER heard a report from them – not a peep – about the terrorism of the Baathist regimes in Iraq and Syria. And the BBC always shows its bias when reporting on the Arab attacks against Israel. You can count on it. They don’t call it al BiBiCeeyah for nothing.

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:32 pm 61. Unanswered Questions in Chicago « The View from Alexandria:

[...] documents that a potential political critic of Obama was interested in the documents. Meanwhile, Clarise Feldman argues that the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and cover-up are going to cost Obama [...]

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:32 pm 62. Obama hits bottom, keeps digging: Annenberg, Ayers, Obama | Atlas Shrugs:

[...] will bury Obama, if the story makes the light of day. Thomas Lifson writes: Clarice Feldman lays out the reasons why the William Ayers/Annenberg Challenge story will seriously damage the candidacy of The One. A [...]

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:43 pm 63. Wil:

Roger

The difference is this , Obama runs on a platform based on Change which for all intents and purposed implies that Barack Obama is a perfect candidate that has no flaws and mistakes . Unfortunately for Obama , his relationships with Wright , Rezko ,Ayers, the Daley political machine as well as his extremely short accomplishments not to mention his dependence of the tele-prompter reveal much about him than whatever McCain throws at him . And oh btw , true conservatives and libertarians and the grass roots Republicans would rather have anyone else than John McCain to run as President , someone like Fred Thompson for instance . So again , could somebody tell me the real accomplishments of Barack Obama other than being an editor of the Harvard Law Review . How was he as a lawyer , a professor , a community activist ,a state senator and an Illinois Senator ? Is that so much for those who supports Obama ?

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:47 pm 64. Insufficiently Sensitive:

McCain better remember the skelEton’s in his closet…, Keating, Abramoff et al

Roger, you forgot that John McCain helped Mr. Abramoff into his comfy little jail. And that it was Democrats who went into the slammer over the Keating mess.

Try again.

Aug 24, 2008 - 7:51 pm 65. LOL:

It’s great that you have a place to rant and get out your frustrations. I’m sure there is a similar blog for people who are voting for Obama to rant about the criminals and sleazes in McCain’s past and present. However, your are right about very few people seeing this or caring about it (except the choir) even if it comes out in the MSM. If this country can elect (or should I say appoint) a near illiterate dufus (I hear Goofy’s laugh) like Bush with all his family’s questionable associations, then no matter what comes out about Obama, it will just be perceived as tit for tat. Most people in this country are asleep about what really goes on in politics. Many voters are either incredibly rich and want to maintain the status quo or working their butts off trying to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. Most of the American voters are just plain tired of the lies and corruption of the past 8 years and want something different. Will it be more lies and corruption? Maybe. But the Ayers stuff won’t alter most American voters who want a change. However, you guys keep up the passionate ranting. It’s a hoot to read while watching TV. I hope you get your 15 minutes of fame eventually.

Aug 24, 2008 - 8:07 pm 66. JT23884:

Now the Demo’s are going to try and put the ecomony as the big prob in the US and it very may well be. At least in the top 3. However we should all check out this person:Penny Pritzker! Up to here eys in the sub prime issue. Do we really wont Obama running the ecomony of this nation?

Aug 24, 2008 - 8:17 pm 67. goy:

- All I hear is more sleay guilt by association claims.

No, Javelina, that’s just the only thing getting through the tin-foil, leftist, knee-jerk filter you have clamped on your head.

There are several interconnecting layers of issues involved here – all of which point to Obama’s unfitness to run for school board treasurer, let alone President of the United States. The complexity may be above your intellectual pay grade, but here’s a breakdown:

1. The scandal is the fact that documentation on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was initially to be made available to Stanley Kurtz for research purposes. Then, when it became apparent that the information might be embarrassing to Obama, the custodians of those documents suddenly did a one-eighty. Days have now passed during which no one can know for sure whether the documents have been preserved in their original state, given the high stakes involved. More to come on that score Tuesday. Remember: it’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up.

2. Obama and Ayers weren’t merely “associated”. They worked closely together on at least two publicly and privately funded projects, one of which was the CAC – developed by Ayers and Chaired by Obama. This close association demonstrates their like-minded sentiments regarding (at least) education “reform” (see below). Ayers’ unrepentant attitude regarding his terrorist activities in the 60s – expressed as recently as September 11, 2001 (while CAC was underway and Americans were dying at the hands of terrorists not unlike Ayers) – begs the question of what other sentiments the two share.

3. The CAC chaired by Obama was a flat failure, as clearly indicated in the project’s Final Report. Since this relatively small public project is the one and ONLY time Obama has ever held a position of executive authority, examination of that failure goes to his fitness to lead a nation of 300M+ people and the myriad, complex issues involved – both domestically and abroad. It’s clear from the CAC failure that Obama is not fit for the position of POTUS.

4. Tens of millions of dollars were distributed by CAC and no clear paper trail has been produced as yet to indicate how and to whom, by whom. As the program was a failure, this naturally raises the question of who received the money, and on whose authority. Obama, as Chair of the program, is the mostly likely individual to have directed or approved the distribution of these tens of millions of dollars.

5. Obama’s support of Ayers’ program is clear evidence that he supports Ayers’ philosophy on education, that is, that public education should NOT be a platform for teaching science, math, civics, literature, philosophy or history, but rather that it should be a medium for implementing Marxist revolutionary Change. Ayers has never made any effort to hide this firm belief. On the contrary – he has gone as far away as Venezuela to promote it as recently as 2006.

Marxist thug Che Guevara promised… “Change”. It’s no coincidence that this murdering scum is worshiped by Ayers (who named his son Chesa after him). It’s no coincidence that Obama’s campaign slogan is… “Change”.

Aug 24, 2008 - 8:52 pm 68. fred:

LOL,

So if all of this thread about this topic is a scream and you look down on us for reading it and contributing to it, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:06 pm 69. Sue:

We must not feed the animals guys. They get nasty and won’t go away. We can continue our discussion without responding to the ugliness the Uber Lefties post here. Ignoring is the best medicine to rid ourselves of this pestilence called The Left (or socialists) which ever suit your taste better. But, they are tinfoil hatted leftist loonies and we waste our time with any response!

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:37 pm 70. GCA:

All it takes is critical mass. Eventually, if the facts can be unearthed and they support the reasonable inferences posited to date, this story will become impossible for the legacy media to ignore. Keep on digging.

Aug 24, 2008 - 9:40 pm 71. sonoffar:

Sorry Albert but the line is “Get a haircut and get a real job!” Try it out see if it will allow a bit more fresh air and sunshine into that appendage you use to keep your hat off the ground.

Aug 24, 2008 - 10:47 pm 72. really?:

Do you have even a single source for this story? Seems to be speculation and opinion and nothing more.

I am not really an Obama fan, but I don’t think it’s fair to put out articles like this one which cite no sources at all while making rather large allegations. If these things are true, there should be evidence of it.

Additionally, I haven’t really heard Obama say anything about McCain’s associations. I personally found Obama’s comments to be a not-so-subtle jab at McCain’s age, claiming he couldn’t remember or something, when obviously there is a difference between homes you live in and properties you own.

I want to see McCain hit back POINT FOR POINT, with substance. McCain is such an honorable guy with a strong record, not to mention he’s a legitimate American hero. He should chew Obama up and spit him out without stooping to smears.

Aug 24, 2008 - 11:00 pm 73. AML:

really?

You want sources? Here you go: http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/08/obamaayers-update-annenberg-mystery.html

Aug 25, 2008 - 12:13 am 74. Al from NJ:

Will the media, please, blast this all over…it’s scary.

Aug 25, 2008 - 3:27 am 75. The Obama-Ayers-Annenberg Connection « Dirty Democrats:

[...] even though Ayers funded one of Obama’s first fundraisers. Asking Clarice Feldman to ask: If voters find out Obama was lying about his past, will it kill his chances in November? The truth is that the two men worked closely together for years, beginning several months before [...]

Aug 25, 2008 - 3:53 am 76. Sean Osborne:

A most excellent report Clarice, but you also need to update your sources on the origins of this story on the Obama-Ayres cnnection. It wasn’t Sean Hannity on his nationally syndicated radio program. It was Dr. Laurie Roth on her nationally syndicated radio program. Certain Hannity producers are definitely in a position verify this as fact. WHO BROKE THE STORY ON BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S CONNECTION TO TERRORISTS & DOES IT MATTER?

Aug 25, 2008 - 4:23 am 77. goy:

- …I haven’t really heard Obama say anything about McCain’s associations.

Then you’re being willfully oblivious, just like the gullible, clueless 9% of the American population who label themselves “very liberal”.

McCain’s campaign is doing precisely what you’ve suggested – responding point-by-point, with substance. The Reed allegation had no substance whatsoever, and it has backfired. Obama’s Ayers / Annenberg connection, however, demonstrates clearly that he is not fit to run for public office, let alone POTUS. But of course one must take the time to make one’s self aware of the facts.

Need spoon-feeding? Links to the pertinent documentation are in this thread and the other PJM article that covers this issue. Pretend you’re an informed voter for an hour and go read it all.

Aug 25, 2008 - 5:20 am 78. Larry:

Great article Clarice. Great post Goy and I’m stealing it.

Aug 25, 2008 - 7:00 am 79. mee:

yes Obama is no one who can lead…his dirty politics and not just “guilt by association”
Penny Pritzer (rich Hyatt family)failed her Superior bank in 2002and this cost taxpayers a BILLION$$$ (2002)yet she can donate $40,000 to Obama 2002-2004.Pritzer owes the FDIC 450million which she suppose to pay back within 15 yrs. She probably believes Obama will “forgive” her of this DEBT.Valerie Jarrett was VP of Habitat in charge of Chicago’s housing and the FEDS took these over in 2006 due to many code violations..maintence worker said they didn;t have enough $$$ to buy steel-wool to plug RAT HOLES..yet Ms.Jarrett can give $2.800 fund raising dinners in her nice home foe Obama???? she wants to be HUD secretary…her and Daley are wringing their slimy hands waiting for Obama’s AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND which gives $500 million a year to developers don’t forget Axlerod who got away with dumping nuclear waste in Chicago waters because his friend Obama DEFEATED a bill mandating water check-ups…yes on Judgement Obama ranks #1…

Aug 25, 2008 - 7:33 am 80. mee:

for anyone who wants proof of OBAMA AND AYERS go to wilkepedia and you see under “community activism” yes now we see what his community consisted of…Radicals likw himsef

Aug 25, 2008 - 7:42 am 81. Ange:

Never fails. Stupid comments from stupid people. What do you know about every you dealt with, friendships, jobs, purchases, etc. Hope you do a background check on your associates!!

If we did background checks on everyone in our companies we wouldn’t work for any of them, because believe me there are crooks and liars amongst them all. Look @ the housing crisis, which crook did you buy your property from?

Aug 25, 2008 - 8:30 am 82. Evil Pundit:

Well, Ange, I can tell you that I didn’t buy my house from convicted money launderer Tony Rezko.

But Obama did.

Aug 25, 2008 - 9:48 am 83. Squidly8:

rlmorel, The A4 is indeed an attack aircraft with its primary purpose as delivering ordanance against ground targets. The A4 also carries air to air missiles and is capable of engaging another fighter. Best tool for the job? Not at all, but it had the capability and as such, the pilots are trained in air to air combat – a fighter’s role.

The accurate statement would be more akin to “an attack/fighter aircraft pilot”. To call him a fighter pilot isn’t absolutely 100% factual but neither is classifying him as an attack pilot. To quibble over one or the other definition is ridiculous.

I was a submariner of which you could be either an attack boat sailor or a boomer sailor. I was on an attack boat but I identify myself as a submarine sailor without worrying about the nitpicking.

In the end, he went into combat as he was ordered, did his duty and unfortunately for him suffered shootdown/crash related injuries and even more horrific; torture (physical and psychological), confinement and near zero medical attention. He is a Naval Aviator, maybe that definition is good enough. It is to me.

Aug 25, 2008 - 10:06 am 84. Baltimoreguy:

To Texas Cowboy: A lawyer named Philip J. Berg has filed suit demanding records regarding citizenship of Barack Obama,aka: Barry Soetoro, etc. We shall see what judge kills the suit.

There are other reports that Senator Obama has traveled when he was above the age of eighteen to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. Indonesia doesn’t recognize dual citizenship and doesn’t issue passports to foreigners. (i.e. Americans)If this is true, it could be an embarrassment but the courts and press will silence it.

The lawsuit has been filed. No MSM source I know of has reported it. Wonder why?

Aug 25, 2008 - 10:22 am 85. cnu:

This is a bunch of right wing hype intended to harm the Obama campaign. But, it’s not gonna work. If there were a grain of truth to this article, the McCain camgaign would have jumped all over it with a vengence!!

Aug 25, 2008 - 10:37 am 86. Dark Helmet:

I love the Squids!

Aug 25, 2008 - 10:38 am 87. Evil Pundit:

Cnu, if you had actually read the article before spewing your bile, you would know that McCain has already brought up the issue.

I suspect his campaign has some interesting ads in the can for later on …

Aug 25, 2008 - 10:57 am 88. goy:

Baltimoreguy – we have the same media blackout on Paul vs. Clinton (yes – Bill and Hill’). Why? Because Peter Paul has audiovisual evidence proving fraud and election campaign finance law violations by Hillary. The case has been ongoing for some 8 years. Ever heard about it? Even once? I hadn’t.

Aug 25, 2008 - 11:12 am 89. Can Obama Survive the Annenberg Cover-up? « NObama - Not Now, Not Ever:

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Aug 25, 2008 - 11:32 am 90. PetRock235:

No Republican wants to shoot down Obama before he’s nominated.

Aug 25, 2008 - 11:36 am 91. Nathan Draper:

I have a friend who is somewhat conservative but was seriously planning to vote for Obama based on the rhetoric, the energy level, good looks, etc., as well as his dislike for McCain. When I told him about Ayres, though, he was speechless. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” actually consisted promoting socialism and of ripping off money meant for education. If just 20% of the middle-of-the-roaders who decide elections in this country can come to understand that, the Obama campaign will collapse.

Aug 25, 2008 - 3:26 pm 92. Lee:

FORGET ALL THE MEDIA SPIN …
You can truly judge a candidate by
who he’s attracted to …
and, who’s attracted to him …
For 20 years, Obama was attracted to
Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleiger, Rezko, Moss, Ayers, etc.
… and, those attracted to Obama include
Madonna, Ludacris, the Nation of Islam, the
black panthers, etc..
Also … Michelle Obama subjected
her two young children to anti-American racists
for years, at the black liberation church of
Jeremiah Wright.
Elect a true American in November,
Senator John McCain !!!

Aug 25, 2008 - 3:46 pm 93. Reverse Spin » Barack’s biggest problem:

[...] Obama has lots of political problems but none is as large as this ad and this issue. He has no good response. He won’t gain the trust of middle America once they [...]

Aug 25, 2008 - 6:31 pm 94. Red Blooded American:

You people are pretty worried about Obama winning, that much is clear. I haven’t heard more crackpot ideas in one thread in a long time. Let’s talk about the facts of political life a little. Obama inspires people. This is a political advantage. McCain bores people and can’t even inspire his own base. This is a political disadvantage. I don’t pretend to know which candidate will win, and suspect that either one would do an adequate job, certainly no worse than the current president. If the electorate voted based on dubious association and decades-old blunders, they certainly would no have voted for a guy who went awol from a cush National Guard posting obtained through nepotism, or a guy who ran several oil companies into the ground after being gifted them through nepotism, or a guy who was gifted 1/16 share in a pro baseball team, through nepotism, and parlayed the resulting profits and prominence into an undistinguished and short career as a governor in a state where the governor has little power, or reelected a guy president who thought that spending a month cogitating on his stem-cell research “policy” was more important than reading CIA briefings entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike inside U.S.” Get it? The electorate doesn’t vote based on facts. They vote based on who they think they like best at a gut level. Both Obama and McCain have serious negatives on that count, and it will be interesting to see which way the cards fall this time. Yeah, yeah, the Marxists are taking over the USA. You guys should lay off the Jim Beam.

Aug 26, 2008 - 12:21 am 95. Dan Collins:

Well a bomber is a person in your neighborhood
In your neighborhood, in your neighborhood
Oh a bomber is a person in your neighborhood,
A person you don’t consult with each day

Aug 26, 2008 - 4:00 am 96. The Real Issue:

The Real Issue is that the Republican attack machine should talk about the REAL ISSUES…the failed policies that Senator McCain voted for 95% of the time…The No Child Left Behind policy/ plenty of high school dropouts for Americans to take care of…The Katrina failed response/ plenty of bills for Americans to pay for–trailors not used–trailors that caused health problems…The spending in Iraq…problems winning the War/ the dollars spent on the Surge/ the rise in Oil prices and once the money was made by the Iraq government, they want a timeline….”Get out of our Country, America” says the Iraq government…/ The close to trillion dollar debt…jobs lost-jobs eliminated..few dollars to borrow for housing/ college. Enough Americans have been damaged by these failed policies and within the next 2 months they will say no more…no more to Republican tricks which will be reflected in the polls.

Aug 26, 2008 - 6:45 am 97. Evil Pundit:

The real issue is Obama’s association with the terrorist Ayers, the racist Wright and the criminal Rezko.

The fact that his supporters are desperately trying to change the subject shows that it’s important.

Aug 26, 2008 - 7:33 am 98. tanstaafl:

I don’t like this attempt at censorship on the part of the Obama camp Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

Aug 26, 2008 - 10:52 am 99. Robert Hurley:

I don’t know who is sicker – that author the article or many of the nuts who have responded. There is this thread that runs through the blievers in conspiracy theory that seems to be present here. It is like some sort of a hate virus that infects a lot of far right wingers.

Aug 26, 2008 - 10:52 am 100. Dark Helmet:

Change.

Change the subject
Change the history
Change the facts
Change the progress
Change America.

Call it whatever you want bobby hurley, you can’t ‘change’ what is going to happen to your cockroack of a retardocrat candidate when the light gets turned on him. This is just the tip of the iceberg, you backed the wrong pony, again. I just hope that more of you go down with the ship this time. It would raise the IQ level of our nation and set the commies back a hundred years. It would kick izslime in the nads too.

Aug 26, 2008 - 11:24 am 101. Dark Helmet:

red blooded American,

You are not a red blooded American You do sound a great deal like a red though.

Aug 26, 2008 - 12:13 pm 102. goy:

Hurley, how is it a “conspiracy” that one of Obama’s closest associates on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) turns out to be a Marxist socialist who is also an unrepentant domestic terrorist??

Did the “far right wingers” fantasize all this in your opinion? Do you think people are so stupid that they don’t realize Obama’s associates’ blatant Marxist policies reflect directly on him?

Virtually every aspect of Obama’s life and past has revealed some unsavory aspect that disqualifies him as a candidate – at least for anyone of sound mind. This is just one more:

- CAC Program: failure.
- Obama’s CAC Chairmanship: failure.
- CAC Expenditures: $50M wasted.
- CAC Co-founder: anti-American Marxist, unrepentant domestic terrorist and friend to dictator Hugo Chavez
- CAC Goals: “social and psychological outcomes”.

Obama dug this pit all by himself. There’s no “conspiracy” in any of it.

Aug 26, 2008 - 12:30 pm 103. Amy:

There is one thing missing. No one is talking about what happens if the files have been scrubbed of any reference that might be hurtful to Obama. It’s a likely possibility

Aug 26, 2008 - 4:31 pm 104. schnargley:

Oh! All this negative political noise!! I can’t stand it anymore. I am so tired of bad things being said. Why can’t we all say good things? It is too confusing trying to figure out who said what and who is speaking the truth. My head hurts.

I just like Obama and tyhe way he talks so I’m gonna vote for him along with millions of other youth like me.

Aug 26, 2008 - 4:33 pm 105. goy:

Amy, it’s a certainty that the documents have been “adjusted” in at least some way. The delay and associated shenanigans attest to that. But I’d contend that it doesn’t matter.

I suppose it would be satisfying for some to find evidence of some lawbreaking. And such a revelation wouldn’t surprise me in the least. But the facts as we know them are all damning enough if they were made clearly known to the millions of confused fence-sitters out there.

IMHO, pushing this issue in an effort to prove some criminal or ethical wrongdoing – essentially pursuing an impeachment hearing before the election – is going to appear as a witch hunt and backfire unless there’s something incontrovertible (like Peter Paul’s evidence of Hillary’s fraud and election law violations). Simply laying out the points above, which clearly indicate that Obama is simply not executive leadership material, is enough. Lots of quotes from Obama’s books laid side-by-side with Ayers’ hysterical ravings would dispel any notion that Mr. and Mrs. Obama are not closet Marxists.

Aug 26, 2008 - 5:49 pm 106. Rachel Peepers:

They used to say that only cockroaches would survive an all out nuclear war.

Lately, though, I’ve been hearing a slightly different survival comparison. Which goes something like this.

They used to say that Barack Obama could easily refute the findings of the Annenberg Report. Now, though, most analysts aren’t giving Barack Obama even odds for being able to survive the Annenberg report.

In fact, apparently now there is some real doubt whether anything but cockroaches will survive it. You see, cockroaches can’t talk, therefore they can’t color the truth.

The same can’t be said of politicians like Barack Obama who’s boxed himself in a corner saying he always had nothing but a very superficial relationshiop with Bill Ayers, the unrepentent bomber of everything from police stations to the Pentagon.

And make no mistake, there are politicians like Barack Obama. One, off the top of my head who reminds me of Obama is Bill Clinton.

Example: A few years back, Bill Clinton didn’t want a drama run on network TV that traced the times Clinton and the U.S.government had Osama Ben Ladin in their sights and we’re too afraid to pull the trigger. Which in all liklihood would have prevented 9/11 from ever happening, and saved countles lives.

To prevent the show from running on TV where people would see Clinton for the incompetent, self centered, lying-through-the-teeth pompous ass he really is and was, Bill and a team of lawyers threatened the network, not only to sue it, but the FCC.

Bill threatened a lot of bad things, but to little avail. The network pretty much ran the show the way they produced it in the first place because they knew legally Clinton couldn’t do anything. It was just a paper tiger making a lot of churlish noice.

Now, the comparison with Barack.

These days, Obama is fuming about a Republican commercial focusing in on Obama’s close, personal relationship with Bill Ayers. So he’s taking a page out of Bill Clinton’s dirty playbook threatening a bunch of TV stations so they won’t run the commercial.

As you may not know, the commercial standards and practices don’t apply to political commercials. Politicians don’t want it to. Allowing politicians to say most anything they want. Lie like drunken lobbyists, if you will.

In trying to get stations not to run the commercial, Barack, like Clinton, doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on. But he’s going through the motions like he does. Which makes life at the TV stations fairly uncomfortable.

With the trump card threat, of course, being, that, if Barack gets elected, he will see to it that the stations’ licenses aren’t renewed.

It’s the politics of hope and changed in action.

Aug 27, 2008 - 3:50 am 107. tanstaafl:

…if Barack gets elected, he will see to it that the stations’ licenses aren’t renewed…

While behind the scenes, Nancy Pelosi (and friends) are pushing hard for resurrection of the (anti) Fairness Doctrine.

What this means is that a yahoo (or yahoos) at the FCC would decide which holders of broadcast licenses presented… controversial issues of public importance…in a manner that was honest, equitable, and balanced and which didn’t.

Nancy recently said that God Himself has given us Barack Obama.

The cast of characters running the show at Democrat Central these days is truly bizarre. If they hold “power” of the sort they’d like to hold, they’re dangerous.

Aug 27, 2008 - 8:46 am 108. Rachel Peepers:

By the way, I love Barack’s dodge to rationalize his longstanding personal relationship with Bill Ayeres. “They (the bombings) happened when I was only eight.

Which would hypothetically justify Barack getting together for a Saturday afternoon barbecue with Aribert Heim, the Nazi “Butcher” at Mauthausen concentration camp.

If Barack were ever called on the carpet about it by the American people, Barack could say, “Hey, all that Nazi stuff happened before I was born. Why are you making a big deal out of this? It’s not about the pocketbook issues that matter to the American people.”

Guys, I’m just trying to expose the ludicrousness of Barack’s dodge about Bill Ayeres.

Can you imagine a sitting President having a close, friendly, personal relationship with an unrepentant terrorist?

FDR didn’t have one. Truman didn’t have one. Ike didn’t. Kennedy didn’t. LBJ didn’t. Nixon didn’t. Ford didn’t. Carter didn’t. Reagan didn’t. Dad Bush didn’t. Clinton didn’t. George W. didn’t.

Barack Obama, I guess, is just a new kind of animal.

Aug 27, 2008 - 11:59 am 109. tanstaafl:

The “I was 8 years old when Bill Ayers bombed stuff” argument was very dumb.

To be precise, Barack was 9 when Ayers likely participated in bombing NYC police headquarters, 10 when Ayers likely participated in bombing the Capitol Bldg. and 11 when the Ayers inspired Pentagon bombing took place.

To be even more precise, Barack was 34 years old when he first cozied up to the unrepentant terrorist’s Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an association he held until age 41.

Aug 27, 2008 - 3:21 pm 110. vharlow:

the real issue, understand that the CAC experience is a glowing example of some very badly “failed policies” and Obama was in charge. So, he’s not got any successful executive experience. He blew $100,000,000 of money he didn’t work for, and he will blow all the money you have worked for doing just the same sort of thing.

Aug 29, 2008 - 1:11 pm 111. Kathryn:

It’s Supposed to be my Party” Obama’s Woeful week by Kathryn
It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you

No one knows where my annointing has gone
But stardom left the same time
Why was she a beholden site in their eyes?
When I’m supposed to be Divine!!!?