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		<title>By: pam</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/cheating-chinese-gymnasts-bring-out-anti-us-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-104635</link>
		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Investigated for Cheating? Blame the USA! by pam Meister Why must everything be America&#039;s fault?http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/cheating-chinese-gymnasts-bring-out-anti-us-bias/Flood victims work to resume homing pigeon training - Chicago TribuneGibson and his wife, Pam, have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Investigated for Cheating? Blame the USA! by pam Meister Why must everything be America&#8217;s fault?http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/cheating-chinese-gymnasts-bring-out-anti-us-bias/Flood victims work to resume homing pigeon training &#8211; Chicago TribuneGibson and his wife, Pam, have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/cheating-chinese-gymnasts-bring-out-anti-us-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-103547</link>
		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Innocent till proven guilty&quot;

Yes, it&#039;s a great principle.  Too bad, so few Americans actually believe in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Innocent till proven guilty&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a great principle.  Too bad, so few Americans actually believe in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aerie</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/cheating-chinese-gymnasts-bring-out-anti-us-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-102109</link>
		<dc:creator>Aerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  I have to say it is very &quot;chinese&quot; to be deceptive to get what you want.  It&#039;s personally made me very uncomfortable, but it&#039;s part of the culture.  Friend in China, told her boss she was in the US visiting relatives so she could take a leave of absence, what she was really doing...hiding during her last two trimesters so she could have a 2nd baby.  She had me send her a bunch of American goods for &quot;gifts&quot; to 1)prove she was in the US 2)Bribe her boss to let her keep her job.

I&#039;ve even had to mail back &quot;gifts&quot; for me Dear In Laws so they could give &quot;gifts&quot; to their superiors to get a raise.  Though they didn&#039;t get the raise.  

What does this have to do with cheating.  Well, greasing the wheels to success is cultural.  You can send out a bribe, but you still may not get what you want.  But you have to try.  Sometimes it works well, sometimes you just lose out.  This is the chinese way.  You just never call it deceptive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  I have to say it is very &#8220;chinese&#8221; to be deceptive to get what you want.  It&#8217;s personally made me very uncomfortable, but it&#8217;s part of the culture.  Friend in China, told her boss she was in the US visiting relatives so she could take a leave of absence, what she was really doing&#8230;hiding during her last two trimesters so she could have a 2nd baby.  She had me send her a bunch of American goods for &#8220;gifts&#8221; to 1)prove she was in the US 2)Bribe her boss to let her keep her job.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even had to mail back &#8220;gifts&#8221; for me Dear In Laws so they could give &#8220;gifts&#8221; to their superiors to get a raise.  Though they didn&#8217;t get the raise.  </p>
<p>What does this have to do with cheating.  Well, greasing the wheels to success is cultural.  You can send out a bribe, but you still may not get what you want.  But you have to try.  Sometimes it works well, sometimes you just lose out.  This is the chinese way.  You just never call it deceptive.</p>
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		<title>By: please</title>
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		<dc:creator>please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those people allegedly from the UK and Canada can barely write in English and the one person who actually put a decent sentence together didn&#039;t even know that the current age rule came into effect in 1997.  I did my PhD in the UK and the entire time I was there did not encounter a single person that stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people allegedly from the UK and Canada can barely write in English and the one person who actually put a decent sentence together didn&#8217;t even know that the current age rule came into effect in 1997.  I did my PhD in the UK and the entire time I was there did not encounter a single person that stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: CarlsDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarlsDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real shame is what OTHER, underage athletes from other countries might me thinking about the medals they might have won if they had been allowed to compete. How many 13 and 14 year old gymnast could have won medals this year whereas they may not be able to when they are 17 or 18 in 2012? 
If the Chinese are not punished (assuming they are guilty of age fraud), what pressure might that lead for other countries to start changing the age of young gymnast today in order to make potential gymnast &quot;legal&quot; in 2012?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real shame is what OTHER, underage athletes from other countries might me thinking about the medals they might have won if they had been allowed to compete. How many 13 and 14 year old gymnast could have won medals this year whereas they may not be able to when they are 17 or 18 in 2012?<br />
If the Chinese are not punished (assuming they are guilty of age fraud), what pressure might that lead for other countries to start changing the age of young gymnast today in order to make potential gymnast &#8220;legal&#8221; in 2012?</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba Licious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubba Licious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who really gives a crap what the Euro-Trash or the Canadian Clubs think or say. The Chinese broke the rules. They cheated in order to win. I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;m ready to take Chinese athletes cheating to an invasion of Formosa but with China you can never be too sure. What I do know for sure is that when there is a natural disaster, a flood, typhoon, earthquake, tsunami, or a war that displaces thousands, who does the world call upon for help...I&#039;m waiting....the United States of America, of course, you idiots. If my country is such a horrible place as the Euro-Trash want you to believe why are thousands and thousands of people trying to get here?...Hmmmmmm?....cat got yer tongue?? Sheesh I just don&#039;t believe how dumb you Euro-Trash are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who really gives a crap what the Euro-Trash or the Canadian Clubs think or say. The Chinese broke the rules. They cheated in order to win. I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m ready to take Chinese athletes cheating to an invasion of Formosa but with China you can never be too sure. What I do know for sure is that when there is a natural disaster, a flood, typhoon, earthquake, tsunami, or a war that displaces thousands, who does the world call upon for help&#8230;I&#8217;m waiting&#8230;.the United States of America, of course, you idiots. If my country is such a horrible place as the Euro-Trash want you to believe why are thousands and thousands of people trying to get here?&#8230;Hmmmmmm?&#8230;.cat got yer tongue?? Sheesh I just don&#8217;t believe how dumb you Euro-Trash are.</p>
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		<title>By: Razorgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razorgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Hildy. And ....An honest silver trumps a cheated for gold every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Hildy. And &#8230;.An honest silver trumps a cheated for gold every time.</p>
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		<title>By: rocketeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocketeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>otpu - Yeah, i know it&#039;s the American way, and I wouldn&#039;t have it any other way either.  We are the greatest country on the planet at this point in history, and the rest of the world knows it and is jealous of it.  I&#039;m just tired of the America bashing that is the vogue thing around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>otpu &#8211; Yeah, i know it&#8217;s the American way, and I wouldn&#8217;t have it any other way either.  We are the greatest country on the planet at this point in history, and the rest of the world knows it and is jealous of it.  I&#8217;m just tired of the America bashing that is the vogue thing around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: gus3</title>
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		<dc:creator>gus3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice broad brush there, Northern &quot;Light&quot;.

Read up lately on Freudian projection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice broad brush there, Northern &#8220;Light&#8221;.</p>
<p>Read up lately on Freudian projection?</p>
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		<title>By: Hildy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hildy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the bottom line...I&#039;d rather be free with a bronze, than be under Chinese Communist rule with a Gold...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the bottom line&#8230;I&#8217;d rather be free with a bronze, than be under Chinese Communist rule with a Gold&#8230;</p>
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