143 Comments

1. BillJ:

MSM–flatlined!

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:00 am 2. Boris:

Can you please post a link to a news story that suggested that Palin’s son Trig was not hers, but her daughter’s.

Thanks.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:13 am 3. RE:

The media has become an agenda driven disgrace. They are long overdue for an intervention and a long rehab.

I feel no sympathy for this bunch of narcissists. I hope Gov. Palin bypasses them and speaks directly to the people – as Reagan also had to do.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:28 am 4. Master Cranky Hucklebubble:

Having read some comments over at HuffPo I can already tell that their strategy in regards to Gov. Palin will be more of the same until Nov.
The left-wing blogosphere and MSM was so over-the-top with this Bristol pregnancy thing that the backlash was inevitable: Those 40-million viewers who watched her speech at the RNC were either pre-disposed to be sympathetic or curious as to what the Blair Witch really looked like. I think that it is safe to say that everyone was impressed. If Chris Matthews got a thrill up his leg when listening to Mr. Obama’s purple prose; the only thing I can say after watching Ms. Palin’s speech is Shwing!

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:31 am 5. BackwardsBoy:

Would it be too much to hope for if the left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) finally got the smart slap to the face they’ve needed for years? Judging by the reactions, maybe not. The hypocrisy called “objective reporting” is in plain view and in full shriek. The Vapid One’s minions and collaborators are simply beside themselves, furious that their one-sided arguments are glaringly exposed as the leftist lunatic-fringe ravings they really are. No one really took them seriously before, they were merely tolerated. But after years of repeating those ravings, they began to think that the average American also believed them. Nothing could have been further from the truth.
Today, while liberal journalists (again, I repeat myself, sorry) whine and seethe at not being able to ruin a fine woman and a war hero, the rest of the country is laughing out loud at what once was an honest and respected profession now populated with partisan hacks. Soon, the laughter will subside, and the embarassment will set in, more newspapaer and magazine subscriptions will be canceled, and the left-wing smear machine will die the slow death it has deserved for years.
I will not mourn.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:35 am 6. k. pablo:

Vast amounts of gaseous CO2 was emitted by the mainstream press about how the election of Obama would send a message to the third world about the benefits of democracy in the U.S.A. simply because of who he is. The Arab Street was to have become docile and cuddly, Islamofascists were going to attend sensitivity training, etc.

I wonder whether Governor Palin as Vice President would send the same kind of message to the “better half” of the disaffected third world? Maybe it would be a better message, especially if attached to a Hellfire missile with the coordinates of Osama’s dialysis machine.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:45 am 7. Self-hating boomer:

This is hilarious watching the fourth estate/fifth column indignant that they’re not getting their due respect and deference. It reminds me of after the Oklahoma City bombing, when Connie Chung walked under the police barrier tape, and was stopped by a cop. She said “do you know who I am?”.

The press is collectively asking Sarah if she knows who they are, and she’s ignoring him. I think she learned long ago how to play hard-to-get. The press isn’t used to that. So now, they’re throwing things.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:50 am 8. jay:

I just read a story on cnn by the AP about the latest poll. The story was written in a way as to shows McCain/Palin in the worst possible light. I see this stuff all the time. Now she’s “dodging the press”, can you blame her? The BS in the MSM is amazing. I don’t have the link to the story because I don’t care if the libs believe me or not and I know the others here have seen it (the MSM bias) too.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:50 am 9. Jim Treacher:

Can you please post a link to a news story that suggested that Palin’s son Trig was not hers, but her daughter’s.

Well, if you go start here and work your way up, there are plenty of them. But when you click on the links, those references tend to have been deleted.

So I understand your confusion. You have to catch these things before they cover their tracks.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:55 am 10. Boris:

“Sarah Palin was in the national spotlight for all of three days before once-legitimate newspapers started running with demented Internet rumors that she’d faked her pregnancy…The press lost the right to use that argument when they ran with all these crazy slurs like it was the day before the election.”

Can anyone point me to any one of the once legitimate newspapers that ran with these internet rumors and crazy slurs?

Thanks.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:56 am 11. ex-democrat:

do your own damn research, boris.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:11 am 12. Boris:

Thanks, Jim.

Now, I didn’t see any MSM stories in there (Gay Socialites dot com notwithstanding). Do you actually have any evidence for your claim that newspapers ran with this story? I did a Lexis/Nexis search and found nothing.

Are you saying newspapers somehow deleted their articles?

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:11 am 13. Darrell:

Boris:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02palin.html?_r=1&scp=12&sq=palin&st=cse&oref=slogin

“Some claimed that Ms. Palin had not actually given birth to Trig, but that Bristol had, and that the family had covered it up. Various Web sites posted photographs of Ms. Palin in the months leading up to his birth this year, and debated whether her physique might have been too trim for her stage of pregnancy. The McCain campaign said Ms. Palin announced Bristol’s pregnancy to stop the swirl of rumors.”

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:17 am 14. Feingold:

Of course they delete their stories, you wimdit. It’s part of their last-ditch effort to stay credible with low-scorers such as yourself.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:25 am 15. schnargley:

I, for one, vehemently applaud the Fourth estate’s saturating, relentless, penetrating, brilliantly effective (they have forced her into hiding) investigative assault on this so-called “woman.” She is, as so many of our enlightened, progressive, Ivy-League educated blog writers and celebrities, as well as the vast bulk of our thinking Media and academic geniuses have said recently, “The Most Dangerous Woman in America.” She is dangerous because she is pretty and men, as we all know, are testosterone-laden unthinking beasts will vote just cause they like her boobs. Also the dumber ones like Todd too, who seems much more testosterone-laden than Obama. (Testosterone starts wars which is why we need someone more in touch with their femininity.) Women too, will vote indiscriminately for her because she APPEARS to be unassuming and normal and is a working mother who thinks like them. This is a deception. She is dangerous because she harkens vast numbers of bitter, religion-deluded Middle-America nitwits, instead of onward to a vision of a new thinking-man’s America of hope and change, back to some mythological fantasy of so-called self-sufficiency, civic and national pride apple-pie God crap. She is dangerous because whereas Obama is really the hip, cool candidate, she ruthlessly stole that from us and now even makes the crazed, geriatric war criminal look, somehow, unbelievably, like, cool. She is dangerous because, while before, the bourgousie was willing to sit blinkered and cow-like (nothing against cows) on their McDonald’s-laden duffs around their television sets and pathetic casserole dinners, and let we of the better-educated, progressive class inform, instruct, and lead the nation into a synergy of evolutionary advancement and enlightenment, she has somehow awoken these insipid creatures to what appears to be actual enthusiasm and resistence to our plans and ideas for a new world. This simply cannot be allowed.

The owner’s and producers of the Media outlets, the journalists and University presidents and professors, all have their point of view and it is their right and duty to present that point of view in print and on the airwaves and the classrooms. Any protest against this, like this crap piece, is an insult to free speech and our democratic principles.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:30 am 16. Libs R. Dunn:

So, she’s supposed to just show up for her journalistic pie in the face?

The Repubs don’t need the MSM. Their message is getting out. The MSM’s days as info gatekeepers are gone. This is a great time for schadenfreude and I intend to use it generously.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:32 am 17. daddyquatro:

Happy now, Boris?
Of course, the MSM didn’t “report” that Trig was Britol’s child. They reported that “various web site” (who shall remain nameless) claimed to have proof.
Just like they reported that the National Enquirer said that John Edwards had an affair… Oh wait.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:35 am 18. RW:

The transparency of the national media is pretty funny with the light shining so brightly on them and they being well so irritable about that light in their eyes.

But they shall not be dissuaded. From what I see they are just doubling down. Almost every cherished second of air time seems to be woven to bring any possible negative light to the Republican ticket or to downplay anything that might remotely create a positive impression.

It’s pretty blatant but well why should they care. They got a job to do. And they were feeling pretty good about getting the anointed one elected without so much as a one time vetting.

They are so interested in every aspect of Sarah Pallin, be it the jet put on ebay or her family. But they have no interest whatsoever on Obama’s Annenberb Challenge, the only executive experience he earned while doling out tens of millions nor that arms dealer billionaire Auchi who sent money to Rezko that was apparently used to help buy Obama’s house.

Has the media shown any interest on Obama’s position on Iraq and how that coincided with Auchi’s attempts at landing business there post Saddam?

Not a Larry King watcher but when flipping the dial he seems to only have room for feminists who are ultra angry with Sarah, (for apparently breathing and succeeding) and others who have bad things to say about her. He doesn’t even give one counter voice to it.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:36 am 19. Boris:

I hardly consider that “running with” a rumor or slur, Darrell. Should the media not have reported the stated reason that Palin revealed her daughter’s pregnancy?

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:36 am 20. Sandra M:

Ronald Reagan went over the heads of the no-free-press Soviet Union when he called theirs the “evil empire.” That penetrated the far reaches of the Gulag Archipelago slave labor camps and one prisoner, Natan Sharansky, later released expressed the joy they felt that an American President understood.

Sarah Palin has that same ability to speak over the heads of the press because she’s so quotable. When she turns her attention to Putin’s Russia, no press blackout will suffice.

In the meantime, I think she should appear on Fox News Sunday’s show first, then CBS’s FACE THE NATION as Bob Schieffer doesn’t seem to have engaged in this nonsense.

ABC. She should insist on Jake Tapper who has struck me as more evanhanded than Georgie Stephanopoulos.

NBC. They should insist that Joe Scarborough be allowed to guest host MEET THE PRESS. ( OK I’m in fantasy land here.)

When it comes to newspaper interviews: THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, THE NEW YORK POST, WASHINGTON TIMES, INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY,

Magazine Interviws: Bill Kristol’s THE WEEKLY STANDARD. Perhaps a roundtable interview there. NATIONAL REVIEW, THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR, THE AMERICAN THINKER, HUMAN EVENTS and then she can do TIME and NEWSWEEK interviews once interest in her has dwindled a bit.

She should NEVER do a NEW YORK TIMES interview. Why help them save their dying rag.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:49 am 21. Glen:

BackwardsBoy: In todays world.

“Journalistic objectivity is a fairy tale told to children and developmentally challenged adults.” The Torch blog 19/Aug/2008

Boris: Up in Canada our nationally supported TV/Radio network the CBC (much like your NPR but so left it makes Hillary look far right wing) picked up the story an ran with it at full speed in to a brick wall, only to have it’s BS called.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/09/04/jonathan-kay-let-the-cbc-know-how-you-feel-about-neil-mcdonald-s-appalling-smear-on-sarah-palin.aspx

Several British papers and BBC did the same, thus making the American MSM/nutrroot bloggers look stupid throughout the world.

Boris perhaps you should use that little thing called “Google” before you come over and insist people do your research.

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:49 am 22. Self-hating boomer:

Boris, you and Natasha had better go catch Bullwinkle Moose before Sarah shoots him. You wouldn’t want to disappoint Fearless Leader, now would you?

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:50 am 23. Dhael:

—
schnargley

I, for one, vehemently applaud the Fourth estate’s saturating, relentless, penetrating, brilliantly effective (they have forced her into hiding) investigative assault on this so-called “woman.” She is, as so many of our enlightened, progressive, Ivy-League educated blog writers and celebrities, as well as the vast bulk of our thinking Media and academic geniuses have said recently, “The Most Dangerous Woman in America.” She is dangerous because she is pretty and men, as we all know, are testosterone-laden unthinking beasts will vote just cause they like her boobs. Also the dumber ones like Todd too, who seems much more testosterone-laden than Obama. (Testosterone starts wars which is why we need someone more in touch with their femininity.) Women too, will vote indiscriminately for her because she APPEARS to be unassuming and normal and is a working mother who thinks like them. This is a deception. She is dangerous because she harkens vast numbers of bitter, religion-deluded Middle-America nitwits, instead of onward to a vision of a new thinking-man’s America of hope and change, back to some mythological fantasy of so-called self-sufficiency, civic and national pride apple-pie God crap. She is dangerous because whereas Obama is really the hip, cool candidate, she ruthlessly stole that from us and now even makes the crazed, geriatric war criminal look, somehow, unbelievably, like, cool. She is dangerous because, while before, the bourgousie was willing to sit blinkered and cow-like (nothing against cows) on their McDonald’s-laden duffs around their television sets and pathetic casserole dinners, and let we of the better-educated, progressive class inform, instruct, and lead the nation into a synergy of evolutionary advancement and enlightenment, she has somehow awoken these insipid creatures to what appears to be actual enthusiasm and resistence to our plans and ideas for a new world. This simply cannot be allowed.

The owner’s and producers of the Media outlets, the journalists and University presidents and professors, all have their point of view and it is their right and duty to present that point of view in print and on the airwaves and the classrooms. Any protest against this, like this crap piece, is an insult to free speech and our democratic principles.
—

Maybe I have been on this site long enough but, did you just propose an aristocratic dictatorship, schnargley? Please tell me you are joking. That you are being somehow sarcastic or ironic.

Because that is what this is
—
let we of the better-educated, progressive class inform, instruct, and lead the nation into a synergy of evolutionary advancement and enlightenment
—

Sep 8, 2008 - 11:55 am 24. Blue hen:

“I hardly consider that “running with” a rumor or slur, Darrell. Should the media not have reported the stated reason that Palin revealed her daughter’s pregnancy?”

sarcasm: “And in other news, ’some’ have reported that people whose names begin with the letter B, such as Boris, or maybe Barack are a dire threat to children and small animals. ”

See what I did genius? I didn’t ‘report’ anything. I did no research, no critical thinking, nor did I subject the assertion to a pluasibility test. Nor did I bother to actually approach the intended victim (whoops!) I mean subject for any sort of clarification. I regurgitated something that has a very negative implication for someone. And this is what passes for journalism. If the MSM should have learned anything from 2004, that is that attempting to throw an election (Rather and his precious ANG memo)is not well received. Basic journalistic skepticism and professionalism would have prevented that stupidity, as well as what we’re witnessing this week.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:00 pm 25. Boris:

“thus making the American MSM”

No one has linked to any American MSM story that ran with the internet rumors or treated them as anything other than rumors that were more than debunked by Palin’s announcement on labor day.

Excuse me for not knowing what the CBC or BBC are doing. The focus here is on American media.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:03 pm 26. Sandra M:

A comment about “class”. Todd and Sarah Palin have more in common with the British aristocracy than the so-called Manhattan/DC “elite” media who are legends in their own minds.

How do Dukes and Lords spend their time? They hunt, they fish, they play sports. Precisely, what the Palin family does. Todd Palin has the sophistication to host a sit-down lunch for spouses of politicians and he has. This very attractive couple can go anywhere, anytime and make us proud.

Right now, the Brits are green with envy that we have her and they don’t. But trust me, they’re looking.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:06 pm 27. Boris2:

I need some more kool-aid and maybe a bandage because the bitch slapping I received this weekend is really hurting.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:08 pm 28. always right:

This is media’s way of saying ONLY WE know the tough questions to put to the candidates. What would middle Americans know anything about Russian threat, or economy, etc.?

We all know Gov. Palin campaigning across America would never be asked embarrassing questions (embarrassing for Obama) like that from an 11 year-old’s “Why do you want to be the President?”

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:09 pm 29. BMoon:

Blue Hen,
And you think he/she was serious when they said this? > “…she is dangerous because she is pretty, and men, as we all know, are testosterone-laden unthinking beasts will vote just cause they like her boobs.”

I know, if you read too many quack sites like the HuffPo or DailyKos, or too much of the MSM it is difficult to distinguish real nutcases from parodies of them, but c’mon. Somebody had tongue-firmly-implanted-in-cheek.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:13 pm 30. Boris:

“See what I did genius?….Nor did I bother to actually approach the intended victim (whoops!) I mean subject for any sort of clarification.”

Palin (or a spokesperson) mentioned that there were internet rumors. Palin opened the door on that issue. Get your facts straight.

As far as I can tell, no newspaper published anything about the rumors until after Palin revealed her daughter’s pregnancy in order to, as she claimed, debunk the rumors. Prove me wrong.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:13 pm 31. BMoon:

OOPS…that was meant for the comment by Dhael.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:14 pm 32. rbenjamin:

Boris,

MSNBC had a female announcer who simply repeated the internet rumors on the air, as if they were the moral equivilent of the statement released by the McCain campaign. She seemed to enjoy rattling on with the gossip. You know the technique. “Some people say that Sarah Palin’s daughter is really…..

A Great moment in journalism, which will not be forgotten, along with many others.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:27 pm 33. Jim Treacher:

Shorter Boris: “No, YOU jump through MY hoops!”

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:29 pm 34. Militant-Infidel:

schnargley, thanks, I laughed my a$$ off. Unfortunately, it appears there is so much emotion tied up in this election that obvious sarcasm is mistaken for objectivity.

MI

(Nobody ever accused MSNBC of unbiased reporting.)

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:32 pm 35. Blue hen:

There is a difference between regurgitation and reporting. Instead of blandly repeating the existence of a rumor, attempt to disprove it. And who said that the media was compelled to run either the pregnancy announcement or the rumor? Did all of the editors at all of these outlets dissappear?
The LA Times refused to touch the John Edwards affair AFTER the National Enquirer started running the story, on the basis that it was unfounded, and they wouldn’t run that type of story. They even issued a directive to their blogs forbidding them from covering it. See a difference? No? Who cares?
Many others do. When people arrive at a rally and yell at media types who happen to be there, it’s kinda obvious that the preception of media bias exists and that it’s not staged. I wish the Republican party did have that ability. But it’s clear that they don’t.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:37 pm 36. Gekkobear:

Well maybe she could show up on CNN? They’ve never maligned her.

Sure they misreported the Alaska Budget and claimed an 11% increase was a 60% decrease.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1aRWM2xbhg

And yes, Ogunnaike claimed the bikini AK47 pic was real.
http://gawker.com/5046643/cnn-duped-by-palin-photoshop

Sure Ed Schultz called her a bad mother on CNN…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Ich6uyVUs

And yes, CNN did push the “Maybe Trig wasn’t hers, but was her daughter’s” rumor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW4QXol1f4U&

But hey, she doesn’t like the media… I wonder why?

And the US Weekly advert, is that a “real” enough news site, as I can understand if CNN pushing the rumor wasn’t enough…
Is a picture titled “where’s the bump” something that seems, well… unseemly?
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/08/whats-on-pages-4-5-of-us-weeklys-palin-bashing-issue/

Why would you willingly get into a debate with someone who is both willing to lie and use disinformation, and willing to claim to be non-partisan? And even worse, why would you have that debate on their turf on their terms, with their editors adjusting the final show?

And Boris… is reporting false information (as several of the CNN links above are) “running with a slur”? When you misreport facts it’s hard to claim you’re trying to get to the bottom of things.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:48 pm 37. Red Blooded American:

MSM bashers:

The NY Times uncritically printed every Bush administration justification for the invasion of Iraq and did nothing to advance the argument against it. Look it up if you don’t believe it. So you’re favorite whipping boy in the MSM aided and abetted one of the Republican administration’s most significant failures. So just how exactly is the NYT in the pocket of the libs?

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:49 pm 38. Glen:

Boris
Read them a weep. Granted some of my examples are second and third rate American MSM/repeat sites but if Reuters gets into the pile-on and the New York Post/MSNBC/AP has mentioned that a rebuttal was made to the rumors in there stories, it’s as if they have reported the lie themselves. Remember the old saying; “Guilt by association.”

I can only guess how the rest of the American MSM was lining up to “Break the Story of the Century” and would have if the Daily Kos kids had not pulled it down and stuffit into the rabbit hole.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2944356420080901?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008/news/nationalnews/palin_admits_her_17_year_old_daughter_is_127025.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26496189/

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIMJWupyWNmvU3UX2aGhICmZrQ_wD92U1TN00

http://www.236.com/news/2008/08/30/were_going_with_the_rumor_sara_1_8598.php

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-69834

http://showhype.com/story/proof_that_baby_trig_is_not_sarah_palin_s_son/

http://www.zimbio.com/Bristol+Palin/articles/306/Trig+Palin+Bristol+First+Child

And this was after 5 mins on Goolge

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:49 pm 39. Gekkobear:

Sorry for the size of that post, I was trying to be semi-thorough on CNN. I haven’t gotten all the slanders and misrepresentations from the press, but I’m assuming three page comments are frowned upon here. There are a couple other organizations that have been as bad, but that would get excessive quickly.

If you want more, be assured there is more; and will likely be another couple lies from the MSM about Palin by the end of the week.

The MSM doesn’t let mere facts get in the way of a good story; because Journalism is hard, but storytelling is fun I guess.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:51 pm 40. Boris:

“MSNBC had a female announcer”

Link?

“Shorter Boris: “No, YOU jump through MY hoops!” ”

Okay, Jim. If you don’t want to support your claims with evidence, that is your business. But don’t whine when someone calls you on it.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:51 pm 41. John Dubya:

Do the moderators of this site have the power to ban a lunatic?

If so,,, please look up the IP for Boris, and hit the “OFF” button.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:51 pm 42. trangbang68:

Schnargley,
Forgive for taking you to task before. I didn’t realize it was a parody. It was a parody, right?

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:03 pm 43. Boris:

“Do the moderators of this site have the power to ban a lunatic?”

Couldn’t find any evidence either?

Glen,

You are a little confused.

Jim claims that the MSM ran with the rumor. All your evidence is from after the McCain campaign issued a response to the rumor or is not from the MSM.

One example of the MSM reporting this rumor. Please.

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:11 pm 44. Sug:

Schnargley – I feel really sorry for you. You have so much anger at who knows what that you seem like a self-perpetuating hurricane inside. Perhaps instead of being so angry at Republicans you should ask yourself “what am I REALLY angry about. Bad parenting perhaps?

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:14 pm 45. Jim Treacher:

Okay, Jim.

Glad to hear it.

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:20 pm 46. AntoinRezko-Auchi-Khalidi-Ayers_Dohrn:

Boris you gadfly I hope one day for your own sake you manage to crawl out from your Mother’s basement and see the fresh light of day.

Whose payroll are you on? Soros?? Moveon?? CNN? MSNBC?? NBC?? PBS?? NPR?? BBC?? CBS?? NYT?? LAT?? BostonGl.?? Nat. Enquirer?? AP?? Reuters??

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:23 pm 47. Blue hen:

The NY Times uncritically printed every Bush administration justification for the invasion of Iraq and did nothing to advance the argument against it. Look it up if you don’t believe it. So you’re favorite whipping boy in the MSM aided and abetted one of the Republican administration’s most significant failures. So just how exactly is the NYT in the pocket of the libs?”

Gee, I dunno, those stories about abu Gharib were uncritical, hmmmm?
Howz about the outing of the tracking of terrorist funding, after the US government asked them not to?
or the ‘descent into civil war’?
Perhaps the canonization of Joe Wilson might ring some bells?
Or maybe the articles about the human shields who flocked (oh so briefly) to Iraq during the run up to Operation Iraqi Freedom?
Or the coverage of the ‘peace’ demonstrations before the war?

As to ‘looking it up’, you have logic turned on its head. If you believe that there was an argument touted by someone before Operation Iraqi Freedom commenced that was quashed by the eeeeeevil NYT, feel free to cite proof.

Oh yeah, one more thing; we’re winning in Iraq, and people have been able to vote and live without Baathist inspired fear. That’s not a failure. EIther deal with that, or get yourself a shovel, dig up your buddy Saddam, and stand in the middle of downtown Baghdad and demand that they take him back. Don’t forget to report results to the NYT.

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:32 pm 48. chicago:

Boris working really hard for the messiah. I hope he gets paid by the number of characters typed. LOL!

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:35 pm 49. HRPKathy:

Does anybody else get the feeling that you could link story after story and Boris would still ask for proof – picture temper tantrum, fingers in ears, humming. I doesn’t matter how many links to the slurs or links to all of the websites that have printed posts of the massive lists of Sarah slurs that have been already and easily debunked. No way are these people even checking before they accuse. They just hope nobody notices the retraction printed in Sect D, p. 8 for the lies on page one, if they bother to retract at all.

Here’s the thing, Boris, I think it’s great you are too willfully blind to see it. So far the backlash has driven people into the McCain/Palin col’n pretty successfully. Keep it up. Here’s a thought though, if there is anything out there that should be considered, who is going to believe the media when they bring it up? The boys in Obama’s choir? That ship has sailed.

So far nearly 20,000 subscribers have cancelled their subscriptions to US magazine in response to their front page hit piece on Sarah Palin that Boris says doesn’t exist.

OK. At what point do we just ignore Boris like he ignores the truth?

The people in Cedarberg, Wisconsin booed the press following the McCain campaign. Boris may not believe it exists, but Americans sure do.

It could also explain the shifts in the anchor chairs at MSNBC, the latest rearrangement of Titanic deck chairs.

Chris Wallace demanded that Rick Davis produce Sarah Palin for an interview yesterday on Fox to which Mr. Davis replied “After the way the media has treated her….. she will not do interviews until she can be treated with respect.”

Apparently that is too much to ask unless your name is Obama and you don’t want them to talk about your ears.

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:43 pm 50. Ed Wallis:

…did Olberman really say,

““Sarah Palin’s scared of the press! What’s she hiding?? Why isn’t she letting them do her a favor by interviewing her??? Mommy!!!!””

If so, I only ask why he still has a job.

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:46 pm 51. Larry J:

The MSM mentality is to demand Sarah appear on their shows and submit to interviews to show how important the reporters are. Their whinning is “It’s all about ME!!”

I thought the MSM hit an all time low with Dan Rather’s fraud about Bush in 2004. This year, the MSM has sank to an even lower depth. Polls are now showing McCain/Palin with a substancial lead on likely voters. What the MSM morons don’t realize is that their very attacks are driving people to McCain and Palin. They’re too stupid to realize that their claims of Palin being unqualified for the VP position only go to show that Obama has no qualifications for the presidency.

Some of it may be simply East Coast/Ivy League/Beltway snobbism. Sarah Palin has none of those “credentials”, so she must be destroyed. In the meantime, the very attacks on her by the MSM are driving me to do something I’ve never done before – donate money to a politician (McCain/Palin).

Sep 8, 2008 - 1:47 pm 52. FreedomLover:

Chris Wallace on FoxNews (9-07-08) was almost fussy when he was interviewing Rick Davis: How could Palin not be talking to the media? Doesn’t she know that they hold the key to the brains of all Americans? Gatekeepers, indeed!!

Perhaps one good thing to come of this trashing-by-the-media week is that normal Americans will realize anew that we do not need these biased elites to pre-chew our food for us. We know what we see in Palin, and what we see is intelligence, strength, compassion, and capability. We want her in Washington!

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:02 pm 53. Dr. Mark:

Keith Olbermann has been in need of a good laxative for a long time!!! He is one of the most sarcastic, pseudo-intellectuals of our time.
It seems obvious that his network will always be an orphan child in comparison to FOX news…with cretins like him in front of the camera, small wonder.

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:11 pm 54. Julie:

Wow, schnargley, good one–I was laughing my obama off! You hit it right on the head. Somewhere, the media has ASSumed that anyone who doesn’t worship at the feet of turner (cnn), zucker (nbc), and keller (ny times) must be idjets.
May they all stay up in the clouds on their pedestals and watch as us mere mortals vote McCain/Palin into history!

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:13 pm 55. Ed Wallis:

“Red Blooded American 12:49 – MSM bashers: The NY Times uncritically printed every Bush administration justification for the invasion of Iraq and did nothing to advance the argument against it. Look it up if you don’t believe it. So you’re favorite whipping boy in the MSM aided and abetted one of the Republican administration’s most significant failures. So just how exactly is the NYT in the pocket of the libs? – Sep 8, 2008 – 12:49 pm”

PRETTY EASILY ANSWERED, “RBA”: Though it may be unpleasant to remember it, many leading Democrats (incl. ex-Prez Clinton) at the time also supported the basis (i.e. Weapons of Mass Destruction, etc. etc.) for going to war then.

As long as THEY did, NYT was compliant. D-U-H.

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:20 pm 56. Tom Holsinger:

Your fake New York Times story was wonderful. Please invent one by Andrew Sullivan on Sarah Palin, and try to work her tatoo into it.

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:20 pm 57. John B:

@ Larry J;

“In the meantime, the very attacks on her by the MSM are driving me to do something I’ve never done before – donate money to a politician (McCain/Palin).”.

Larry, be careful,,, donating money to a politician is like feeding a stray dog. They will be yammering for more before the last morsel was swallowed. LMAO~!

But I understand your thoughts here. McCain is accepting public money, so your check probably isn’t necessary.

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:55 pm 58. Brian:

RE- Ah, but govt and the people can BOTH bypass the mainstream media thanks to blogs,youtube,and other media sharing utilities.I also have stepped up the pace of checking right and left wing blogs then compare it to facts.For anyone to say that the GOP isnt listening,well i got news for those people-they are listening.That means we will have direct say day by day how govt conducts itself in the future.This is why this election is a biggie.Politicians can no longer spin away facts or comments.

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:02 pm 59. William of Orange:

HPKathy writes:

“Does anybody else get the feeling that you could link story after story and Boris would still ask for proof – picture temper tantrum, fingers in ears, humming. I doesn’t matter how many links to the slurs or links to all of the websites that have printed posts of the massive lists of Sarah slurs that have been already and easily debunked.”

Kathy,

..someone somewhere (here or Town Hall, or Blogs for Victory) came up with the image of Ash, the android in Alien, head knocked askew, spinning, and the milky fluid squirting out. Personally, I think of Michael Keaton in Beetlejuice, where after he grabs his spinning kopf, says, “Don’t ya just hate it when it does that?”

Tangentially, regarding the discussion about polls and HRC’s votes coming over to McCain/Palin in the swing states: I wonder how many of those votes were instigated by Rush Limbaugh’s “Operation Chaos”?

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:07 pm 60. Dave ll:

Boris…let’s say we give you your point about NEWSPAPERS not being the ones to “spread” the INITIAL rumour of Sarah’s pregnancy. SO WHAT???

It was the DailyKoz site, but it GOT REPEATED in the NYTimes (oh…as “NEWS”, of course!) and other media WITHOUT any journalistic checking of facts whatsoever…

Again, the difference between this and John Edward’s affair is like NIGHT and DAY…WORLDS APART!!!!

…and THAT is the issue!

This year the media has TOTALLY taken off the mask of being fair and unbiased…and thrown caution to the wind! Unfortunately, when they spit into the wind, it came back to hit them in the face!

The beauty of this is the media’s IMPOTENCE to swing the election for the candidate they’ve promoted and revered for so long, and their inability to sway the voters from a candidate who has gone completely around and over them…straight to the hearts of the voters!

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:18 pm 61. Huan:

how is the MSM reporting a “rumour” as a “rumour” not in fact spreading the said “rumour”?

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:39 pm 62. SteveH:

Oh, come on. Elizabeth Bulmiller can’t write or think that well.

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:40 pm 63. Retired Dog Of War:

Hey Boris……

…you don’t get out much do ya?!!!!

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:45 pm 64. Clioman:

The Left–and that includes a substantial portion of the MSM as ‘agents of influence’ or fellow-travelers–hasn’t suffered this much sudden whiplash since the Hitler-Stalin Pact. Pass the popcorn!

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:46 pm 65. Seth Halpern:

I don’t agree that Palin would be less popular absent the smears. Less well known, undoubtedly. But her popularity among those who are acquainted with her is not based on pity, but on her own intrinsic qualities. What the smear campaign has done is to all but destroy what’s left of the credibility of much of the media.

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:48 pm 66. Fantom:

Boris = bitch slapped. Just as the MSM has been put in their place by a lady.

BARRACUDA ! Smile like the Sun, Plenty of Fun.

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:51 pm 67. M. Simon:

Ladies and gentlemen never argue or try to enlighten some one whose name starts with BO or who is fondly referred to as ∅. You lose IQ points big time. As many as one or two standard deviations worth.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:02 pm 68. Pelayo:

“In touch with their femininity . . .” by schnargley

I got in touch with my femininity once; now I have 25 pairs of shoes.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:06 pm 69. Anonymous:

Oh, THAT is a marvelous write! And that piece from Ms. Bumiller is so well done. Love IT! Watching those media dolts fuss/fizz/fume is priceless! Gloat-y to the max!

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:11 pm 70. Floyd R. Turbo:

That is a marvelous write! And the blog from Ms. Bumiller is sweet! Watching those media dolts stew in their own juices as they fuss/fizz/fume is PRICELESS! Gloat-y to the max, we are!

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:13 pm 71. Scott Thomas:

Today, we are getting this tactic on the teases and crawls if the cables, even Fox.

“We are sending a team to investigate the charge that Sarah shot her grandmother.”

Don’t folks normally prove the charge before they publish it?

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:17 pm 72. Matt, Esq.:

“Right Wing blogger Andrew Sullivan” had me laughing for about 30 seconds straight =)

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:18 pm 73. Vinny Vidivici:

Jim Treacher:

Thanks. I’ve been thinking the same thing all day. Why accept the premise that some sort of blessing is required from the same people who’ve spent much of the last two weeks trashing her and much of the last year and a half flacking on behalf of her opponent? For far too long they’ve held, unaccountable to the people they allegedly serve, ‘the power to ask questions and demand answers’, and have abused that power repeatedly. Guardians of the public’s right to know, my butt.

This is an extraordinary opportunity. It was once a truism that you didn’t get into arguments with people who buy ink by the barrel. But Reagan showed the way, by speaking to us directly over the heads of the gatekeepers at a time when it was far more difficult to do so than it is today.

I like Sandra M’s media schedule, and I’d add blogcasts and other forms of new media. Make the propagandists, yellow journalists and traffikers in agit-prop come to her.

Back in school, we used to feel sorry for folks behind the iron curtain, stuck with politically-compromised media organs operating on behalf of their politcal masters. Never thought I’d live to see the ‘free press’ of the West toss away what so many have suffered in silence without.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:20 pm 74. MarkJ:

“Baracky Fontane” commiserates with “Hillary Clintleone” about Sarah Palin and “gettin’ dissed” in general:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oof60kDFqAc

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:24 pm 75. Scrit:

I’ve been wanting to say this for a while.

The MSM has just finished tempering Gov. Palin’s reputation. As in kiln firing pottery. She survived it, and now, if they do find something bad about her, who will believe them?

It’s like the boy who cried wolf — if there really is something bad about Gov. Palin (I doubt it), what is the MSM gonna say?

“We like, totally, for sure, know that this time, what we’re telling you is, like, for real. Really!!!”

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:26 pm 76. Jeff K:

Also,I might add that it was reported today by two citizens of Wasilla Alaska that CNN,MSNBC,ABC,as well as CBS had reporters in town interviewing people about Palin.The catch is they are only talking to people who are not Palin supporters(liberals).Many long term friends,co-workers,and associates that knew her best had offered to be interviewed and they were turned away.Also,has anyone heard the MSM reporting on the big Biden embellishment(lie) that has come to light recently?He has for years and as recently as during his introduction as the VP nominee talked about how his first wife and child were killed by a drunk driver.I would like to know why & how he could take such a tragedy and lie and use it for political gain.The man he has slandered with this lie is no longer alive and his family are mortified at Biden’s total disregard for the truth.The investigators involved reported that quite possibly Biden’s wife had not looked both ways when entering the intersection.The man that Biden has untruthfully slandered was never able to celebrate Christmas after this tragedy since it happened around Christmas time.How can this man live with himself?What a moron.These two shouldn’t be trusted with a pack of matches let alone the United States Presidency!!!

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:38 pm 77. Jim Treacher:

I originally attributed that fake story to Howard Kurtz (I don’t recognize the name Elizabeth Bushmiller, actually), who has referred to Sullivan as a conservative blogger. I thought that was funny too.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:38 pm 78. Kevin Lockett:

You can’t campaign to lead the country and refuse to be question or examined about your positions on the issues people care about. Why shouldn’t she be held accountable for her words and actions? Why shouldn’t people know what she believes before they decide if they want to vote for her?

What if Obama or Biden refused to talk to the media?

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:38 pm 79. Mister Snitch!:

Treacher’s quite right: Palin’s by no means OBLIGED to cooperate with the media. Politicians usually do so because they need the media at least as much as the media needs them – and often, more. But there’s no law, nothing in the Constitution, saying that Palin has to give Olbermann or anyone else the time of day. And clearly, the worm in this case has turned.

Palin can be badly hurt by overexposure, and furthermore she would do well by leaving the news outlets clamoring for her. I certainly hope her handlers keep that in mind, and carefully control her exposure to those hounds and vultures. Despite their bloviating, they DON’T exist to bring ‘truth’ to the American people. They’re NOT the fourth estate, and they’re (mostly) not crusading investigators looking after the public good. They’re a business, looking for ratings and a payday. Almost without exception, those are the only results they’re concerned about.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:38 pm 80. Jim Treacher:

No wonder, it’s Bumiller, not Bushmiller.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:38 pm 81. The Media on Timeout « New Wars:

[...] Sarah Palin has the right to choose the time and place where she will be interviewed, according to Jim Treacher: Sarah Palin was in the national spotlight for all of three days before once-legitimate newspapers [...]

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:46 pm 82. schnarglyesque:

Methinks Dhael and Sug and others “missed” the second phrase in your last sentence.

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:16 pm 83. William Teach:

It used to be Ann Coulter in a cocktail dress that made the left degenerate in sexist insanity. Now it is an average mom of 5 with glasses.

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:18 pm 84. Good on Sarah:

Sarah should avoid giving the media any more time or attention than they deserve. Reagan was able to reach around the media even before Rush and the internet and I think they are enraged because they are remembering. He showed that America and her elected representatives can communicate without them just fine, thank you, and the media are frozen with fear that Palin is another Great Communicator.

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:30 pm 85. always right:

Shame on you, William Teach.

How can you say some one earned the nicknamed ‘Baracuda’, can shoot and field dress a moose, a hockey mom (pitbull with lipstick) of 5 “AVERAGE”?

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:44 pm 86. Matt:

I recall a couple of weeks ago when researching possible GOP VP candidates reading that an Alaskan newspaper that was overtly critical of Sarah Palin’s Governorship eventually went out of business because their readership dropped right off. I don’t know if the report was entirely accurate but if it is it definitely shows the dilemma that MSM has gotten themselves into by continuing this line of attack and undermining the public’s confidence in their ability to remain objective.

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:45 pm 87. Akatsukami:

“What if Obama or Biden refused to talk to the media?”

They might a chance of winning.

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:54 pm 88. jdwill:

The Democratic party and their surrogates in the media/entertainment gaggle have made this fundamental error:

They dissed Hillary, then Sarah. Somebody noticed.

There is going to be a tectonic shift. Women in the middle are going to kick their ass.

No fancy political theory, no mind numbing economic tax analysis, no magic gaffe, just gut populist feminism from the unaligned center with some Hillary defectors thrown in for good measure.

I was wondering earier today when Sunday’s Rasmussen and Gallup tracking polls showed that 5 of the 10 slack points had disappeared, in McCain/Palin’s favor. The article I just linked seems to clinch it.

I’m predicting McCain/Palin in 2008.

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:57 pm 89. Boris:

“how is the MSM reporting a “rumour” as a “rumour” not in fact spreading the said “rumour”?”

Apparently the critical thinking skills of the folks here are a little rusty. Let’s take it step by step.

1. Someone on kos posts the rumor. They are stupid–we all agree there. Moreover, they are scummy for bringing a 17 year old into politics.
2. Internet rumors grow.
3. The McCain campaign announces that Bristol is pregnant, saying that they want to stop the rumors.
4. The MSM reports that Bristol is pregnant and the reason that the McCiin campaign gave–the internet rumors.
5. Jim Treacher claims the MSM spread the rumor.

So Jim’s claim is false. He has no evidence. How many of your beliefs are based on such shoddy research, Jim? And the rest of you?

Sep 8, 2008 - 6:02 pm 90. Javelin:

Great Con-tard tactics, avoid the issues, policies any real tough questions and turn it into a protect the poor, virtuous, gun toting pit bull hockey mom from the evil press. Funny how all the people who condemn PC as Orwellian censorship should now re-incarnate themselves as anti-sexist feminists.

Sep 8, 2008 - 6:08 pm 91. Ex-fetus:

Here is an interesting slant on that WMD thingie;

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3328383/loftuswmdfinal

Here is a video record of the Democrats take on Saddam’s WMD’s while they were in power;

http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

Watch it and weep, Obamabots.

Sep 8, 2008 - 6:14 pm 92. jdwill:

Good. Keep it up until Nov. 4, you noble gatekeepers. Keep growing McCain’s lead and shrinking your own bottom line.

Agree, but they will not be able to stop attacking. She is a fundamental threat to their world view. She is a conservative, religious woman with wit, humor, and practicality.

They can’t understand why someone who is not a few bricks short can have her world view. It’s the “what’s wrong with Kansas” syndrome, but magnified because she is an attractive, magnetic personality.

The feminists hate her even more because their ‘choice’ seems narcissistic and even murderous compared to hers.

She is a existential threat to them and they will reach new depths in their fury.

Sep 8, 2008 - 6:16 pm 93. Michelle:

She hasn’t appeared on Meet the Press-gasp!! I must admit that I did enjoy Tim Russert and I miss him, but IMO, the press hopefully will not be the ones electing our next President and Vice President. Hopefully that duty will finally fall to the people of this country. McCain and Palin have both been talking to exactly who they need to-the people.

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:07 pm 94. TheComintern:

Yeah, enjoy it whilst you can, you Jabberwocky pig-monkey capitalists. After Obama and our minions take over this worthless country, Amerikkka, you won’t exactly get to have your say. Why would we allow such hate speech?

Just remember, Socialism is and has been the most successful economic system ever! And hey – just because we had to “break a few omelets” to bring peace and prosperity to about a hundred-fifty million…We’ve got room for a few more, you nut-job-wing-nutter-right wingers…You will be our quiche.

Yeah, enjoy it while you can.

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:10 pm 95. “The media’s on timeout”:

[...] Jim Treacher has some fun. [...]

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:20 pm 96. rrr:

“Palin opened the door on that issue. Get your facts straight.”

Link?

Or do we have to provide your evidence for your points as well? Or perhaps we’re supposed to take your word for it because, well, you’re you.

But hey, keep moving the goalposts. It helps remind you of how self-righteous you are.

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:28 pm 97. Huan:

Boris

read the post by Darrell at 11:17 am regarding the NYT article.
it reads:

Boris:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02palin.html?_r=1&scp=12&sq=palin&st=cse&oref=slogin

“Some claimed that Ms. Palin had not actually given birth to Trig, but that Bristol had, and that the family had covered it up. Various Web sites posted photographs of Ms. Palin in the months leading up to his birth this year, and debated whether her physique might have been too trim for her stage of pregnancy. The McCain campaign said Ms. Palin announced Bristol’s pregnancy to stop the swirl of rumors.”

“some claimed” is acknowledgement this is a rumor
and publishing a rumor is spreading it

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:42 pm 98. Another View:

Talking Head Hypocrites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP7Z0nMuPZ8

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:55 pm 99. Red Blooded American:

Blue hen:
You didn’t address the fact that the NY Times was basically a mouthpiece for the Bush administration in the run-up to the invasion. Does a newspaper have to back your side’s position 100% of the time in order for you to consider it unbiased. Talk about newspeak.

As to your point that we’re winning in Iraq. No, we’re not winning. Iraq as a nation may in fact be better off ultimately as a result of our actions there. However, we’ve poured more than a Trillion dollars of borrowed money into that rathole and are not any safer than we were before, while priorities that could make us safer go unattended. The debt load has sunk the dollar and played a large role in wrecking the financial system. Apparently you’re incapable of understanding that being against the war does not equate to idolizing Saddam, so I’ll ignore your cheap insults on that regard.

The correct policy would have been to continue to let the UN inspectors search for the WMDs, which they wanted to do. As we now know, they would not have found them. We would be a Trillion dollars less in debt and thousand of our soldiers would still be alive and tens of thousands of others would be whole of body. Saddam however would still be a problem. But how much of a problem? I don’t see the benefits having been worth the still-mounting costs. Ultimately this war has turned into “nation building”, something GWB explicitly promised not to do and said he did not believe in during the 2000 debates. The fact that his own party seems to be content to march along in lockstep with this about face is another example of mind-boggling newspeak.

Ed Wallis:

It is true that many Democrats did support the war. Saying that the NY Times did too as long as the Democrats did, and that therefore it is still just a liberal mouthpiece, is disingenuous though. The salient facts are that the Bush administration controlled the flow of information regarding the WMDs and the justifications for the war. They withheld whatever evidence did not support their foregone conclusion. There were many who did not buy the story however, and the NY Times was not one of those. The weapons inspectors for instance did not buy the arguments and it turns out they were right.

Of course It is natural for most politicians as well as major media organs to rally behind the commander in chief in times of crisis. Most everyone was giving Bush the benefit of the doubt at that point. But great leaders do not exploit crisis to advance an agenda. A bit more critical thinking all around would have served our interests bettert. Again, in a long-term sense Iraq may have a net benefit from our invasion and occupation. That is unless their society coughs up another dictator when we’re gone. What our net long-term benefit from having gone in is another matter altogether. If democracy spreads like wildfire and the Middle East becomes a solid and stable part of the world then I will be very happy and will admit that I’m wrong. In any case, this putative admission is numerous years in the future, and i suspect it is one I will not ultimately need to make.

A larger point about the styles of the right wing and the mainstream. The right wing seems to like to reason backwards, in the fashion of “I know what I know, the following is also obviously true, anyone who disagrees is a [fill in the blank with your preferred insults].” The mainstream media tends to take a more information gathering approach, followed by some kind of attempt at interpretation. This leads where it leads, and sloppy journalism can indeed produce biased results, and biased journalism will of course produced biased results. The right wing likes it’s own bias but calls it fact, and lashes out at any perceived threats to its version of reality. The mainstream doesn’t have the benefit of already “knowing” everything, so it’s at the disadvantage of needing to consider and weigh evidence, call things into question etc. So if you’re the party in power, the mainstream will inherently be digging into what you’re doing a lot more than it will be digging into what the party not in power is doing. I don’t expect any of you to change your mind based on any of these points, and I do expect all manner of attack and name-calling (I’m willing to be pleasantly surprised however) but if nothing else you might consider being more judicious in your attacks on the credibility of the MSM, as the sort of blanket attacks one reads here undermine any credibilty their authors might ever hope to have outside the narrow confines of the far right blogosphere.

Sep 8, 2008 - 8:05 pm 100. Terry Gain:

Red Blooded American:
MSM bashers:
“The NY Times uncritically printed every Bush administration justification for the invasion of Iraq and did nothing to advance the argument against it. Look it up if you don’t believe it. So you’re favorite whipping boy in the MSM aided and abetted one of the Republican administration’s most significant failures.” bs?
Sep 8, 2008 – 12:49 pm

But for Bush’s failure:
1. Sanctions would have ended and Saddam would, by now, have restarted his WMD programs, including his nuclear weapons program.
2. Iraq would not be a democracy.
3. Iraq would not be opposing Islamic terrorism.
4. Al Qaeda would not have been dealt a devastating defeat at the hands of Americans – and Iraqis.
5. al Qaeda’s reputation would not now be in the toilet in the Muslim world -as a result of their insane tactics of trying to drive the U.S. out of Iraq by slaughtering innocent Muslims.
6. Saddam would still be running terrroist training camps.
7. Saddam would still be financing terrorism.
8. Saddam would still be harboring terrorists.
9. Saddam would have made a joke out of the U.N. ceasefire-and the U.N.
10. The A.Q. Khan nuclear network would not have been exposed.
11. Libya would not have renounced its nuclear weapons program.
12. Al Qaeda would still regard the United States as a weak horse.
13. Saddam’s sons would be set to replace him.

And finally for those Democrats who claim they wanted to fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan, which al Qaeda fled in 2001/2002

14. Those al Qaeda soldiers diverted to Iraq to derail the fledgling democracy would have been killing NATO troops, including Americans, in Afghanistan.

Mistake? Think again.

Sep 8, 2008 - 8:17 pm 101. Roy Lofquist:

Dear Sir,

The campaign has announced that Palin will submit to an extensive interview with ABC – no ground rules – full access. The campaign staff was obviously concerned about whether she was up to the task. I appears that she is far more ready than they thought.

Regards,
Roy

Sep 8, 2008 - 8:17 pm 102. Rose Storey:

“This mother of five has put the entire mainstream media on timeout.” Absolutely the best line of the entire campaign! You go Ms Palin, we need people just like you and if you are elected more straight shooters will run for public office.
You have spoiled the party for the ranting, out-of-control, know it alls. Thank you.

Sep 8, 2008 - 8:51 pm 103. Marina:

New MSM strategy: now her RELIGION is SOOOOOO important for us. The founder of her church thought Israel is attacked by the pals because she didn’t converted to Christ. Wow. And this is importand for Sarah’s policy… O.K.

First of all, what can “overbeat” G-damn-America-20-years insanity?

Then, the YouTube is full of JEREMIAH WRIGHT’s sermons – if one listens carefully, the Black Liberation Theology doesn’t believe the Jews are “the jews of the bible = the Africans”, so “Israel” is actually the people from Africa (“Afro-Middle-Eastern”?), Jesus was black, his mother and the apostles were black, “Jews” were black, and the Romans were “rich white people”!!!!!!!!!!! (That’s what Obama believes in, if he doesn’t follow “his Muslim faith” of course). It means actually Obama doesn’t believe the Jews (the white ones) have the right to the land of Israel at all. What does he mean when he speaks about undevided Jerusalem for Israel?

There are videos on the Tube where unrev. Wright calls Israel a “DIRTY WORD” (“Oh, I said this dirty word again!” – tags are “Wright” & “Israel”). That’s OBAMA’S CHURCH, that’s what will determine Obama’s policy!

And now we see this “Simpsons-Republicans” (= “Mr. Burns”) again. The libs really believe that the main-stream Evangelicals will through Sarah under the bus just because her Church is not exactly the same as their ones. That’s what – they think – Mr. Burns would do. And the brave “Simpson-Democrats” (= “Lisa Simpson” = “Hillary Clinton” = “Nancy Pelosy” etc.) will come to save the day and reinstall the status quo. Great!

What the media do instead, is to show their own double standard: what the h.ll does CNN (especially this constantly crying Cooper!) want from a girl with an unusual religion? WTF? Oh, yeah, Blitzer is affraid of the fate of Olberman! (Oh no, Wolf, we won’t forget how you have ripped on Sarah because of her pregnant daughter! We won’t!) Now they send Cooper-the-Sencitive, to rip on Sarah because of her religion and pseudo-anti-Semitism. Christian Amanpour would be better, she is specialized in the anti-Semitism, just a professional anti-Semitic b… The whole attepmt is just pathetic, but they try and try and try. When they will engage “Larry King Still Alive” (Rush’s definition, I think) to destroy Sarah?

What do they expect? To turn off either Jews or Evangelicals? Neither of these groups is stupid. The reactions of the Churches on Bristol’s pregnancy spoke for itself. And the talkbacks in Jewish on-line newspapers in English (predominantly American Jews) say “we don’t trust Obama”. Whom do the MSM want to lie to?

Sep 8, 2008 - 8:56 pm 104. Marina:

The REAL POLLS

Axelrod was on the Fox. Wow. After all the boycotts and “I don’d do FoxNews”-stuff. Not only Obama, but now Axelrod too. In a couple of days we’ll see Soros! Just can’t wait!

But seriously, it means not only that Obama falls and falls and falls in the REAL POLLS, but the MSM do the same, unlike the Fox. Why do they all rush to the Fox? Because the REAL POLLS show it’s probably the only channel now still respected and watched by Americans. Congratulations, Fox!

Sep 8, 2008 - 9:03 pm 105. Kate:

If only Obama and Biden would refuse to talk to the media! Americans used to elect people before mass media and national newspapers existed.

Sep 8, 2008 - 10:14 pm 106. brian:

The Media is really upset about her!Good.Its about time the tables were turned.By attacking her family ,they lose all credibility.That goes to the Left and their liberal media lapdogs.What was that?About a week after Obama said family is off limits?Yeah ok.The Left shot themselves in the foot bigtime.Forget about socialism Lefties its never going to happen in North America.

Sep 9, 2008 - 12:00 am 107. Rachel Peepers:

Guys,

Sometimes, I like to think of this McCain/Obama Presidential race as if it’s a prize fight, one that lasts for months.

It’s Sarah and John, the good guys, versus Obama and the mainstream media. Them, not so good.

As the hot weeks of summer go by, McCain fights on gamely, but he’s feeling the heat.

That’s because John’s on the receiving end of too many punches being thrown by the Obama gang and the mainstream media’s predictible, participational double team.

When John can’t handle the houses question, he’s knocked back on the ropes, but, luckily, just as the Obama commercials hammering away at his verbal misstep start running, the bell sounds ending the round.

It’s convention time.

I see Obama’s convention speech as a series of rights and lefts to McCain’s head and body. As the rounds go by, McCain grows weaker and weaker. Remarks announcer, Don Dunphy, McCain’s behind on points on every scorecard.

Ding.

The bell sounds for the final round.

As the Republican convention begins, storm clouds gather.

As the fighters touch gloves, a ray of sunshine peeks through the clouds.

Suddenly, I realize this isn’t just a prize fight. It’s a special boxing match.

Rocky III. The one with Mr. T.

I hear the blood thirsty mainstream crowd chanting Obama, Obama, Obama, see McCain taking viscous blows, lefts, rights in combination. McCain’s out on his feet when all of a sudden, just when Mr. T is ready to finish him off with a right uppercut to the jaw, from a crouched position, Rocky rocks Obama with a tremendous Palinian left to the gut. Then I see a slow motion Palinian right to the T man’s head causing sweat droplets to fly like little bb’s in all directions.

Then these words ring out from between the lips of Sarah Palin.

Some men”[Obama] use change to promote their career, while others use [McCain] their life’s career to promote change.”

Coming off his stool, the crowd sees a man who’s gotten a second wind.

McCain’s Dirty Harry eyes stalk its prey. Barack glances at his seconds outside the ring for help.

A woman sitting in the second row, wearing a blue pants suit shrieks out, “John, finish him off.”

The metaphor ends.

One final thought.

Guys,

Obama and his henchmen are just that; products of gutter, dirty Chicago politics.

All the stuff about hope and unity and change. That’s like paint on the set of an old western town, where the buildings are only facades with nothing inside. No substance. For cosmetic purposes only.

It’s how I see the entire Obama campaign. As transparent as thin air. As solid as whipped cream. As sordid as John Edwards hiding from National Inquirer reporters in a hotel bathroom.

But what’s got them in panic attack mode is what Jim Treacher so eloquently writes about in his article, “Cheerful, Bespectacled Hockey Mom Drives Journalists Nuts”.

The corrupt left wing media has always been the Democratic Party’s ace in the hole. But you can go to the well once to often.

Suddenly, on the wrong end of a double digit lead in the polls for the first time in this campaign, the Obama boys are on a first name basis with major league panic.

I can hear their underarm tension sweatfilled meetings as sure as if I have a front row seat.

The Alaskan queen has them frozen into inaction. With every passing strategy meeting, more and more heads are nervously, self consciously staring down at the table. More and more sentences are starting with, “Maybe if we.”

After the politics of personal destruction, what is Plan B?

And that’s the rub. There’s no Paul Revere in the room. No patriots in the building. The only people who could have ridden to their rescue were frozen out of their inner circle.

What inbreading can do to dogs it’s done to this impotent Obama inner circle. There are no Plan B,C,D and E people to offer help and guidance.

Surely, not the mainstream media gang who’r just message disseminators. Not creators. The mainstream media is great for wrapping up the attacks in a nice readable package and even tieing them with a pretty bow.

But everything that’s in the package now is blowing up in their Obama campaign faces. All form and no content only takes you so far.

If the Obama campaign team were a horse, I’d say they’ve thrown a shoe. If they were a plane, I’d say they’d lost an engine. If they were a hiker, I’d say they’d lost their way. If they were a meteor, I’d say it was falling to earth.

Actually, though, I say they’re something else.

Second rate Chicago politicians who decided to take a big gamble on an unknown commodity.

Boys who couldn’t resist trying their hand at a high stakes game of poker.

Having The Presidency and all its trappings for the taking had their corrupt tongues hanging out. But what about possible attacks about people like Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko? The Obama people thought that the conspiratorial silence of the mainstream media would make that negative noise just go away.

So as they sit at the high stakes poker table, they sneak another look at their promising hand that’s now not so promising after all.

The sweat all of a sudden gets colder. The throat dryer. The palms wetter. The heart rate faster.

Who’s going to break the news to Obama that they didn’t break Sarah Palin.

Not only is she a survivor, but she’s a pretty mean dealer of seven card stud.

They thought they were going to pull off the deal of the century.

Thought they were going to hold more money and power than they knew what to do with.

But it does’t look likely. Not when you’re looking down at your cards, and you realize the four aces you were hoping for aren’t there.

There’s a name for this hand. “Dirty” is one.

Another is, “Aces and eights”.

Sep 9, 2008 - 2:03 am 108. logdon:

Has anyone noticed the descent of the level of debate amongst these pseudos? Legitimate questions on Obama’s past political affiliations derided as racist smear. Rev Wright, Tony Rezco, William Ayers as old buddies, anyone? Suggestions around his Muslim background, Islamophobia despite the fact that he attended a madrassa and is pictured in Islamic garb. He was born of a Muslim father so those questions are legitimate. He’s the prospective US President for God’s sake! Those are reasons to trouble any right minded American. However when they set the pit bulls on Palin it’s all personal. How, precisely does her daughters pregnancy affect her judgement? What has her future son in law got to do with a voter in Queens? It was so different during Clinton’s travails with Lewinski. They were up in arms about the ‘personal’ in those far off days. His sex life was his own business. But he lied. And arguably he was diverted in his political judgement over the African Embassy bombing and the Cole attack. His response, in my view, lead by joining the connecting dots, to 9/11 and the state we’re in right now. So yet again the nu-libs howl when it’s one of their’s, yet commit to blatant hypocrisy when it’s the derided right.

Sep 9, 2008 - 4:14 am 109. Media, Authenticity, Feminism and Election ‘08 | The Anchoress:

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Sep 9, 2008 - 4:17 am 110. Andrew Ian Dodge:

This is the latest bit of class from the BBC about Palin.

Why rednecks may rule the world Guess they don’t think Obama is a shoe-in anymore.

Sep 9, 2008 - 4:33 am 111. Dodgeblogium » Cheerful, Bespectacled Hockey Mom Drives Journalists Nuts:

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Sep 9, 2008 - 4:36 am 112. jay:

I like to have a coffee and danish in the morning while reading some PJM. Today I was able to thoroughly enjoy the post by Rachel Peepers

” Then I see a slow motion Palinian right to the T man’s head causing sweat droplets to fly like little bb’s in all directions”.

Thank you Rachel Peepers for the good breakfast reading material.

Sep 9, 2008 - 5:03 am 113. Ed Wallis:

“RBA,”

I’ll be a bit more at ease about the FlatLine Media when they start going into Obama’s ties with Ayers (see: Annenberg Files), Rezko and other parts of the Chicago “machine” as they have with their sudden Alaska obsession.

Sep 9, 2008 - 5:08 am 114. Boris:

“Link?

Or do we have to provide your evidence for your points as well? Or perhaps we’re supposed to take your word for it because, well, you’re you.”

I thought everyone knew the McCain campaign gave a reason for the revelation that Bristol was pregnant. Glad to educate you:

“McCain officials said the news of the daughter’s pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called “mud-slinging and lies” that have circulated on liberal blog sites.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2944356420080901

So now that you’ve seen the proof you admit that the media didn’t run with the rumor, right? Hello?

Sep 9, 2008 - 5:20 am 115. hp:

@jeff k — how sad.

@pjm — puhleeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaassssssssse

investigate?

Sep 9, 2008 - 5:40 am 116. Blue hen:

So Boris is back to the crap about the media being above the rumor? How sad. Did you bother to read any of the citations posted above? Do you seriously believe that quoting the McCain campaign’s declaratory policy amounts to carte blanc?

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:38 am 117. Blue hen:

As for ‘red-blooded american’ your attempt at hedging your bets with regards to iraq indicates a lack of integrity or knowledge of US history. Those who died in any of the wars that America waged did not have control of the short term, many disagreed with their leadership, and the beneficiaries often didn’t sign vows to run governments that those veterans would love. Think France, twice.

As for “cheap insults” that couldn’t be farther from the truth. Overthrowing Saddam and enabling Iraqis to put him in his grave was very costly; you said so yourself. What was your alternative? Distribute some ‘free Tibet’ bumper stickers? Or perhaps we could have enshrined the oil-for-dictators scheme that made Saddam, some companies (mostly European)and several UN execs very wealthy. Yeah, that’ll help. And you could leave the US and UK holding the bag enforcing the no-fly zone.

I’ll acknowledge the lack of new WMD once someone finds the WMD that was catalogued after Desert Storm. That crap is still unaccounted for.

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:47 am 118. Boris:

“So Boris is back to the crap about the media being above the rumor? How sad. Did you bother to read any of the citations posted above? Do you seriously believe that quoting the McCain campaign’s declaratory policy amounts to carte blanc?”

It’s called reporting. When McCain says that there were rumors, isn’t a reader entitled to know what the rumors were, especially when the rumors are debunked thoroughly with the information that Bristol is pregnant?

The “liberal blog sites” look bad for spreading the rumors. Palin and Bristol come off quite well–and no reasonable person would believe that the rumors were true. And you guys still complain that this is an example of bias? Quite pathetic, the games you play to prop up your myths.

Sep 9, 2008 - 9:58 am 119. AdrianS:

Here a link to an interview with Nancy Pelosi on women in government. It was given before our beloved moose hunter, Sarah Palin, came onto the scene to uncontrollable nationwide adoration.

Nancy Pelosi talks about the importance of having young women in politics…

http://feathersblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/nancy-pelosi-talks-about-importance-to.html

Down with Barack Obama. Long live America and American values!

Sep 9, 2008 - 10:03 am 120. Boris:

I made a mistake. You are right. The awful media were spreading this rumor. Here’s an example:

“John McCain’s newly named running mate confirmed the story after rumors circulated on the Internet that Palin’s 4-month-old son was actually her daughter Bristol’s child.”

Shameless, isn’t it? These liberal freaks. Out to get Palin and spread rumors.

Read the whole story at Fox News:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/palins-17-year-old-daughter-is-pregnant/

Boris wins yet another thread. Good game, jammies.

Sep 9, 2008 - 10:41 am 121. Jim Treacher:

Here’s your trophy.

Sep 9, 2008 - 10:58 am 122. Red Blooded American:

Terry Gain:
I think most of what you think are the benefits of the invasion are short-lived at best and illusory at worst. I still think it was a mistake and that the benefits such as they are have not been worth the cost. But I am willing to be proven wrong on that count and that is not hedging my bets. I hope I’m wrong in fact, since we are stuck with the problem at this point.

which brings me to Blue hen:

Equating a democratic France with third-world dictatorships with no record of democracy is disingenuous on your part in the extreme. You might not always like the results of French democracy, but it exists and is a very important part of the western alliance. You have no right to talk for the veterans of WWI and WWII in saying they would not approve of the democratic France that exists today. You are really talking about cultural preferences. Your own cultural preference against things French. That’s your right, but don’t assume everyone who doesn’t march in lockstep with you is somehow part of the evil empire. Yeah Yeah I know, according to you I “lack of integrity or knowledge of US history”. Same to you.

Ed Wallis: The Annenberg Files have been released and the MSM has reported on the fact, in case anyone is actually interested in facts in preference to empty rhetoric. Here’s the link: http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/dnc/1127918,ayers082608.article

Sep 9, 2008 - 11:01 am 123. Jim Treacher:

Seriously though, Boris: If it’s okay to report on ridiculous rumors, why were they so reluctant to even mention the John Edwards/Rielle Hunter story for so long? Aren’t their readers entitled to know what the rumors are?

Sep 9, 2008 - 11:01 am 124. boqueronman:

Let’s give boris some props here. The MSM has decided to utilize the “when did you stop beating your wife” reporting. “Some claim… Rumors are spreading..” Thus, they can excuse themselves by saying that THEY are not making any claim, just reporting what others have said. So on one level what they report is true. But, on the other hand, are they really acting as “seekers of the truth?”

Let’s compare the Palin “controversy” to what happened to the John Edwards. Was the MSM scrambling to report “some claim… rumors are spreading…” about John Edwards? Those with some capacity to gather information and draw conclusions might decide that the difference in the treatment of the two candidates came down to the political party which the overwhelming majority of reporters support, both financially and ideologically, vs the party of evil “neocons.”

But, hey, this is the way it has been since Rush Limbaugh arrived on the scene. More and more the true allegiance of the already largely leftist journalist class has been exposed BY THEIR OWN HANDS and the public is well aware of it (see polls). But what’s the problem? The MSM (broadcast and print) readership and revenues is collapsing across the board. So I say, boris, please help them to not see their own self-destruction and please encourage them to continue down the path to oblivion they are now on.

Sep 9, 2008 - 11:43 am 125. The Everlasting Phelps » Blog Archive » Tantrums:

[...] Cheerful, Bespectacled Hockey Mom Drives Journalists Nuts This mother of five has put the entire mainstream media on timeout. No wonder they’re crying. [...]

Sep 9, 2008 - 12:28 pm 126. Boris:

If Edwards had released a statement about the rumors, then the media would have reported it. One reason Edwards never did so is because the rumors were true. The difference is clear.

Sep 9, 2008 - 12:32 pm 127. Chesler Chronicles » Is Palin a Law and Order Candidate? This Veteran Feminist Sure Hopes So.:

[...] to teach “abstinence” to her seventeen-year-old pregnant daughter Bristol, etc. See Here and Here for some coverage of the media [...]

Sep 9, 2008 - 1:43 pm 128. Jim Treacher:

You have a very interesting mind.

Sep 9, 2008 - 1:58 pm 129. JEM:

Boris – I am glad you do not see the TV media as mainstream in asmuch as I heard them mention this rumor, without any reference to the McCain camp qualifier the NYT managed to include. The problem is that the rumor got so bad they were required to announce her daughter’s problem. You can attempt to parse words and evaluate who said what first, but the fact remains, the MSM are in the tank for Obama, and in the 24 hours after the announcement of Palin attempted to dredge up every possible wild story regarding her background in an effort to discredit her before she was even able to introduce herself to America. I will admit that I am unaware of any original reporting by the MSM into these rumors, merely a almost lockstep reaction to publich material that they would never have published if properly vetted. These had no business being published and the reporters on TV should have known better as well. The fact that MSNBC has demoted Mathews and Olberman should be proof enough the suits are aware of thier problem. I have no desire to note the exact date and time each successive report occurred. Obama to his credit realized where this was going and as they piled on after the annoucement of Palin’s daughter’s pregnency he asked everyone to lay off the kids of the candidates. Did the MSM listen? No. They couldn’t quit talking about it, in their editorials, on the talking head shows, etc. Hell a WP columnist wrote she questioned Palin’s judgement because she didn’t abort her downs baby! If you are truly an Obama supporter – and I hope you are – keep up the blinders – the strategy isn’t working. Obama is going down by around 6% on election day, and McCain will garner in excess of 300 electoral votes. The more you are acting in this manner, the more states will fall. Pennsylvania is now a toss up – as is Michigan. Wisconsin is getting ready to move to toss up. Ohio is moving towards McCain. It is over, absent a huge screw up by the McCain camp.

Sep 9, 2008 - 2:18 pm 130. Boris:

“You have a very interesting mind.”

Nice comeback.

Sep 9, 2008 - 3:01 pm 131. Jim Treacher:

“Nice comeback.”

True.

Sep 9, 2008 - 3:08 pm 132. DanG:

Hey Boris, try this one next: “I know you are but what am I?”

Sep 9, 2008 - 3:24 pm 133. Rubicon:

Master Cranky Hucklebubble… I had read through the article & comments posted & was thought I might prepare some sort of comment.

However, I simply could not get past Shwing!

I happen to agree wholeheartedly & believe there are few words that have not already been said.

So, I smile at the effect she has had, & I also……. Shwing!

To the ladies on the board, I apologize in advance. I am obviously an unrepentant male chauvinist pig.

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:04 pm 134. The Potency of Palin « Republican Party of Jefferson County, TN:

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Sep 9, 2008 - 8:03 pm 135. Bookman:

Boris: “Can you please post a link to a news story that suggested that Palin’s son Trig was not hers, but her daughter’s.”

I think that is pretty hard to find now. Dem scrubbers are sanitizing as much of the Internet as they can reach. The story started in the Daily KOS Diaries section, and the actual accusation was that the baby was born with birth defects because of incest – specifically, that Bristol had been knocked up by her brother (which is the reason he was going to Iraq). This got pulled by KOS after about a day and a half, but by then all the people still living in Mom’s Basement had taken it and run with it (often dropping the incest part).

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:20 am 136. “Palin represented an explosion of a brand new style of muscular American feminism.” « Republican Party of Jefferson County, TN:

[...] I’ve noted before that feminists are coming out in support of Palin.  Continued smears will just fan the flames.  The double-standards of the media - Yes. Some of the same media missing-in-action, lately. - probably aren’t sitting too well either.  I guess that’s just something else to drive the media nuts.  [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:37 pm 137. nick:

The press is one of our basic freedoms IT does not have to be “earned”

they are hiding her because she is unprepared, she lacks the skills and

is not qualified to be president.

nwerle at yahoo

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:49 pm 138. mik:

helloooo…..sleaze sells! how else do you explain paris hilton being famous for…nothing. how else do you explain mccain topping the polls now. his campaign was dead before she showed up. giving that excuse for not talking to the press is a good strategy. media- if she continues to ignore, then ignore her. it’s pretty simple. plus, I’m bored of the same old story of her already. she’s a nice fling, but not someone I’d marry. I wouldn’t waste a vote on a fling.

Sep 11, 2008 - 3:54 am 139. Ed Wallis:

“mik”, your opinion is worth every cent you paid to spread your foul mouth here.

Sep 12, 2008 - 1:41 am 140. Jeff:

Ed Wallis,

Can you please explain to Sarah Palin what the Bush Doctrine is.

Sep 12, 2008 - 10:31 pm 141. Ed Wallis:

“JEFF” as previously suggested,

STAY BY

http://www.highlights.com

Sep 13, 2008 - 1:02 pm 142. mik:

ed wallis – I wish I was paid!……hahahaha…..I’d comment all day long! too bad I have a job. btw, have you seen mccain/palin ads lately? wow, they’re just going to an all time low now with all that sleaziness. no shame in their game. the mccain campaign has even admitted to that and say they don’t care. even their buddy karl rove admits that. bunch of liars!

Sep 14, 2008 - 11:23 pm 143. bruce:

ask any fisherman if they know sara palin?we all do from her appearances i commercial fishing publications where she is a strong supporter fishing and developing our energy resoures. i believe she will be a great v.p.unlike that commie gas bag biden.as for the lame stream midea i haven’t believed anything say or print for the last 40ty yrs.the times is and always has been run by traitors by the name of shultsberg but they are realy rosenbergs.

Sep 26, 2008 - 1:32 pm