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1. hdgreene:

After noting that one in five voters in the West Virginia Primary took race into consideration, Kenneth P. Vogel and Carrie Budoff Brown write in The Politico (Five things to watch in Kentucky):

And though Kentucky voters may also factor race into their votes, they also might be more reluctant to admit it to exit pollsters, said Laurie Rhodebeck, an associate political science professor at the University of Louisville.

“Voters get a little prickly here if you say race” drove their choice, she said. “They’ll say, ‘It’s more that we’re concerned about his church ties or his lack of military experience or that he seems so young and untested.’ Those may be socially acceptable ways of saying they’re uncomfortable with a black candidate.”

OK. And what are the Socially Acceptable ways of saying he’s unqualified? Let me think. I guess there are none. Silly me.

It is interesting to see what Liberals think of their own voters. Are you a racist hick Democrat? Or are you an elvan, Rivindale, temperate rain forest dwelling, Democrat? And where do you shop?

May 20, 2008 - 4:35 am 2. AJ:

If you don’t vote for the most unqualified, divisive, naive, radical candidate in US history, get ready to be called a raaaaacist!

May 20, 2008 - 6:40 am 3. Jake:

Lets face it, some of these states like W. Virginia, and Kentucky, are poor white folk that will be damned to see a black man become President. Poor uneducated white people, that don’t have the mental ability to see above race, they are not the type of people that i would want supporting me. It has been bread in them, some just can’t help it. Now why is it that educated white people tend to vote for Obama, maybe because they have the mental ability to see something other than skin color.
Why is HRC going to lose to a unqualified, divisive, naive, radical candidate, I would suggest to look at thier voting records and thier not that much different, Oh except one of them did vote for the war. Hillary thought she was entitled to this nomination, kind of thinking she is above everyone else, and now after she can see there is no hope, the white rich woman, now ….now is a fighter for the people. Where was this before, it was never there, this is just another politicians way of manipulating the people into thinking she is fighting for them, when really she just fighting to keep her family name powerful. If your a Democrat you will vote for Obama, because the two canidates have pretty much the same agenda for America, if you don’t, well I think its obvious why you wouldn’t for for Obama, A vote for McCain is not a vote for policy, it would be a vote for skin color.

May 20, 2008 - 7:19 am 4. john sperling:

What is Hillary still doing in the race? I really don’t get it. Clearly all elections in the recent past have been stolen…not won and by not seating the Florida and Michigan delegates this one will have been stolen too. I think about the impact of perception if she would have had those delegates all along…how that would have swayed public opinion. America only votes for the perceived winner. Hillary wrote the book “It takes a Village” and Bill wrote “Giving” both of these books skim the surface. If you really want a book that hits home look at Carlin’s “A Prescription For Peace.” I think McCain and Obama could really gain from a little reading.

May 20, 2008 - 8:05 am 5. nadine jennings:

This has nothing about color of his skin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all he goes on about change, but he has failed to mention what he is going to change. second of all I can’t stand a show off that thinks he is a super star and a show off. We already have a show off for president. One is enough for anyone. I don’t like show offs and men that think they are pretty!!!!!!!!!!

May 20, 2008 - 8:09 am 6. john:

Hillary knows she lost THE RACE AREADY! even if she wins the rest of the state and Florida she still will be behind OBAMA so WHY DOES SHE STILL WANT TO STAY IN THE RACE? I heard 2 reasons, one she might want a position as the top head honcho in the democratic party or she want to build as much negative against OBAMA , divide the party so when November comes OBAMA loses to McCain and she can look like a hero with the says ” I TOLD YOU SO” What about Michigan she won there too? Really? OBAMA was not even in the ticket, so how can she claimed she won. That’s like me playing golf with TIGER WOOD. He does not show up and I continue playing and say that I won. You will be looking at me like I’m crazy. What about Florida Obama was on the ticket and she won there too? Really? Florida broke the rules so Hillary and Obama didn’t campaign in Florida. That’s like The Lakers playing against Miami for the finals, the game is tide 100 to 100 in the 4th quarter with 10second to go and Miami do something that break the rules so the referee charge Miami with a technical stop the game but The Lakers continue playing and score and then say that they won the final. SUPERDELAGATES UNLESS YOU WANT THE REPUBLICAN AND MCCAIN TO WIN IN NOVEMBER HURRY PICK THE WINNER “OBAMA” MOST DELEGATES, MOST STATES, AND POPULAR VOTES BEFORE IS TOO LATE. The hardcore republicans is not going to change their mind they will vote for Gaddafi if he was running as a republican but the young people, independent and young republican will vote for OBAMA. What about white working class, I know Obama raised more than 100 MILLIONS! IN 4 MONTHS AND YOU KNOW ALL THAT MONEY DIDN’T COME FROM AFRICAN AMERICAN ONLY. COME ON LETS WIN TOGETHER BEFORE IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

May 20, 2008 - 8:22 am 7. Jeff:

So racism is “bread” into Southern whites ? Wow … liberals really are living on a different planet …

How did the Man from Hope manage to free himself from this breeding ?

Maybe voters don’t want to vote for a racists anti-American … or his nasty wife …

May 20, 2008 - 8:43 am 8. TJ:

So, in a post claiming that opposition to Obama comes from knuckle-dragging racists and that support for Obama comes from the well-educated voters who are able to assess the candidates on a higher level, we have this:

“It has been bread in them”

and

“I would suggest to look at thier voting records and thier not that much different”

Not to mention the near-incoherent syntax and punctuation.

Obama supporters: Smarter Than You!

Q.E.D.

May 20, 2008 - 9:00 am 9. AJ:

“Lets face it, some of these states like W. Virginia, and Kentucky, are poor white folk that will be damned to see a black man become President. Poor uneducated white people, that don’t have the mental ability to see above race, they are not the type of people that i would want supporting me…”

Hey, Jake, nice racist/elitist blast at the types of folks who fight wars so you can sit back and drink lattes.

I am from a coastal liberal family, but unlike you, I grew up, and know that those “poor white folk” are better people than you and the rich coastal liberals will ever be.

Such a despicable post. People like you are what ruins America.

May 20, 2008 - 9:04 am 10. Another Election Day | The Anchoress:

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May 20, 2008 - 9:05 am 11. AJ:

“If your a Democrat you will vote for Obama, because the two canidates have pretty much the same agenda for America…”

Nice spelling, Jake. Maybe check your own IQ before demeaning others.

And yes, those two do have the same agenda: see America lose the War on Terror and fall into a socialist state where we’re all miserable.

Grow up, man. You are the TRUE racist. Why would people choose Obama just because they have the same leftist agenda? Are they sexist?

May 20, 2008 - 9:07 am 12. GM Roper:

Dear Jake, Thank you for providing so much amusement for me. I’d like you to know a couple of things first. I’m a well educated, high IQ male who will not vote for Mr. Obama. In fact, I’ll not vote for any of the three current major candidates. I’m especially not going to vote for Mr. Obama precisely because I have an excellent education – multiple degrees, post grad study at a number of Universities, I’ve taught at one college and one university, both grad and undergrad and I fine your diatribe both racist and incomprehensible.

You note that “educated” folk will gravitate to Mr. Obama, but you must not be going to vote for him since you obviously don’t know the difference between “there” and “their” and when you do select “their” you spell it “thier” and of course you are inable to discern the difference between “bread” and “bred.”

Be sure and remove the log in your own eye before complaining about the mote in mine.

May 20, 2008 - 9:30 am 13. Justin:

@Jake

“Why is HRC going to lose to a unqualified”

Didn’t you mean to say “an”?

May 20, 2008 - 10:43 am 14. David P:

Oregon is a haven of misguided liberals so far removed from the mainstream that trends in pop culture often take years to reach the state, if at all. Obama should do well in the 2 largest cities, Eugene and Portland; Clinton in the Southern, Central, Eastern and Coastal parts.

May 20, 2008 - 11:59 am 15. Martin L:

I came to this blog via a link and it is my first time here. All else aside, if I were the blogger, I would be concerned about the lack of spelling and grammar skills of your readers. Or perhaps just the lack of typing skills?

Maybe the Commenters are just so blinded with rage that they can’t stop to review what they have written before they hit the “submit” button. Phew! I better go back and review my comments for spelling and grammar.

May 20, 2008 - 1:03 pm 16. Jake:

Hey AJ, Jeff, Justin, GM Roper, and the rest, i’m sorry for my bad punctuation, and misspelling, you see i’m new at this blogging stuff, so I appreciate your constructive criticism. For one thing I am a conservative Democrat, I served 10 years in the military and recieved a honorable discharched, my one brother has served 10 years in the Army, my other brother is getting ready to retire after 20 years of service in the Navy, and my brother-in-law has just retired from the service after 22 years. My uncle has died from agent-orange while serving as a medic in Vietnam, so my patriotism and love for this country should not be questioned. In my 10 years in the service I have lived in Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama, and Michigan. I have traveled around the world and have seen things that would make you cry, and I have seen things here in America that would make some be ashamed to be an American. I say things like racism being bred in them, because I have seen it first hand, I have been exposed to racism myself, being half white and half hispanic, I have been called names, turned down service at gas stations, not allowed into certain establishments because I looked like a wap, or a spic. Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, W. Virginia, you can’t tell me there would be much of a difference. Since I have fufilled my obligation to my country, I have experienced my plant closing, and now just recently laid off. I am voting for Mr. Obama in hope that America can move forward, and that people can change for the better…. I am sorry if I have upset anyone.
OBAMA 08

May 20, 2008 - 1:50 pm 17. politicalreacharound:

I can’t understand why conservatives have tried to make elite and educated bad words. Our country prospers by having educated people. You want to keep some middle east/asian foreigners out? Stop the need for importin H1-B visa workers. Education should be our goal. Elite is defined one way as: the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons. Why is elite a bad thing when it they are to be considered the best of us? Self made elites are the best America has to offer. Why settle with the undereducated slobs as the pinnacle of what it is to be American? btw- don’t buy into that republican crap that they want to help the poor youths who fight our wars. The republicans want to limit the money GIs get for education to make sure they don’t get over qualified and fail to re-up their service agreements (ie.McCain which is especially distateful considering his service).

May 20, 2008 - 1:50 pm 18. GM Roper:

Jake, As a conservative (but not a party member of any major party) and as a vet and third generation army brat I salute you and your family. My point was that not all whites are racist, though some obviously are, not all blacks are racist though some obviously are and certainly not all Hispanics, Asians, Inuit, etc. are though some are.

Your problem wasn’t what you were saying per se, it was that you painted everyone with a broad brush (apparently because of your own experience) when an extra fine brush would have done the job. Thus, you get the dander up of a lot of folks who are highly educated, high IQs, but conservative and liberal who would not vote for Mr. Obama because of the hollowness of his rhetoric, the empty suit that he seems to represent, the change he proposes while dodging every question that asks for specifics and because he himself plays the race card by “taking everything off of the table” in terms of what can be discussed.

If you are new at this keep it up, with practice, like at the range with an M-60 or M-16 practice, practice, practice.

May 20, 2008 - 3:53 pm 19. Night Owl:

politicalreacharound:

If I may offer my opinion: I don’t believe it is the elite per se that people have a problem with. Rather it is the unsettling arrogance of some of the elite.

There is a strong desire in traditional Americans to believe in the ideal of the equality of all people. Implied in that ideal is the recognition that all people are flawed, and that no one, no matter how talented or brilliant, is infallible.

Coupled with that view is the American tradition to revolt against the idea of an elite aristocracy that lords over them, thinks for them, and controls their lives. This tradition comes from our forefathers, who were themselves elite, but not elitist; and who designed a system which attempts to limit the power of any one group of inherently flawed people over others. They knew first hand about the tyranny of the elite. It can be just as ugly as mob rule.

I don’t believe any thinking American equates education with elitism. Most sensible people look to education as a way out of poverty, and a way to improve their standard of living. But thoughtful people also know that education, even an Ivy League one, does not equal wisdom.

Therefore, a politician who can exhibit the talent and drive one expects from one of the elite, tempered with enough humility to demonstrate that he knows that deep down he is another one of us flawed humans, will traditionally tend to be favored over one who gives off the “do you know who I am” vibe.

May 20, 2008 - 5:20 pm 20. Mike:

Just what the U.S. needs the “best” presidential candidate selected by the dummest and least educated people in the U.S. Hillary does so well in backwaters of America. But the reality is that Hillary has no more compassion for the poor in these backwaters than my garden slugs.

May 20, 2008 - 5:54 pm 21. Shooty:

“Recieved”? You whine real well for a semi-literate. Back to your neighborhood – the town of victim-hood. Poor baby…

May 20, 2008 - 6:08 pm 22. Fresh Air:

Now, here comes MIke talking about the “dummest” people in the U.S.

Is there some kind of infestation of stupid liberals on this board? Where did they come from? Must be a full moon tonight.

May 20, 2008 - 6:12 pm 23. dirigible:

It’s all codewords. “Educated” doesn’t mean quite what it says, it means “suitably indoctrinated by the PC professorate which infests American higher education.” As we would expect, such “educated” types swallow Obama’s snake oil by the gallon.

May 20, 2008 - 6:21 pm 24. tim jones:

I would like to see a pole on going back to super Tuesday.
Now that more of the country know who Obama is i would love to know how many people that original vote was for Hillary would have voted for Obama now that they now who he is and what he is about.

May 20, 2008 - 6:47 pm 25. Denny, Alaska:

Dems: you’re a hoot! Wresting defeat from the jaws of victory! What’s more important to your party? Nominating a running a candidate who’s not only unqualified, but unelectable, or putting up the candidate who 1) is qualified; 2) has shown she can win the states Dems need to take back the White House?

No, this is not a trick question. Who are you going to nominate? Sen. Obama (D-Carter’s Second Term) or Sen. Clinton (D-A Chance, Anyway).

May 20, 2008 - 7:27 pm 26. Misanthropicus:

Enlightened & superbly educated Jack and his shot at English…
The mighty literate Jack (who apparently was academically empowered at rev. Wright’s Lower Brain Learning Center) has a problem with poor and uneducated whiteys… let’s see…

Jack to the PJM nation:
“Lets face it, some of these states like W. Virginia, and Kentucky, are poor white folk that will be damned to see a black man become President” – [...] some of these states [...] are poor white folk that will be damned to see [...]” – Jack, great juxtaposition, I’m impressed.

“Poor uneducated white people, that don’t have the mental ability to see above race, they are not the type of people that i would want supporting me.” Great reasoning Jack, and I’ll use it to analyze Africa which has the most dysmal education record on the planet: Africans don’t have mental abilities because they don’t have eduction – Jack, you’re doing fine.

“It has been bread in them, some just can’t help it.” Jack, I am impressed by your grasp of English: It has been BRED, BRED, Jack (to breed, bred, bred) – Jack, you are good, home.

“Now why is it that educated white people tend to vote for Obama, maybe because they have the mental ability to see something other than skin color.” – Jack, “Now why is it that [...] tend to [...] maybe because [...]” – Jack, when it comes at a disjointed statements, you sure are the best.

“Why is HRC going to lose to a unqualified, divisive, naive, radical candidate, I would suggest to look at thier voting records and thier not that much different” – Jack, disjointed statements is your realm, buddy.

“Oh except one of them did vote for the war. Hillary thought she was entitled to this nomination, kind of thinking she is above everyone else, and now after she can see there is no hope, the white rich woman, now ….now is a fighter for the people.” – the above rating of your reasoning and stylistic abilities applies here again, Jack.

“Where was this before, it was never there, this is just another politicians way of manipulating the people into thinking she is fighting for them, when really she just fighting to keep her family name powerful.” – [...] it was never there” – I completely agree with your view; [...] this is just another politicians way [...]” – another politicIAN’S way, Jack.

“[...] If your a Democrat you will vote for Obama, because the two canidates have pretty much the same agenda for America, if you don’t, well I think its obvious why you wouldn’t for for Obama,[...]” – if YOU’RE a Democrat, Jack, if YOU’RE, YOU’RE…

Jack, great news now! You’re a finalist in reverend Wright Lower Brain Learning Center reasoning & riting contest! Still, stop worrying about those poor & uneducated racist white folks in Ky (and everywhere in US), and try to tend your garden first.

May 20, 2008 - 8:22 pm 27. Justin:

@ politicalreacharound:

Because the Elitists aren’t Elitists because they are educated they are that way because they think that anyone disagrees with them is by definition retarded and unworthy of an opinion. “Educated” is great except I have been subjected first hand to a professor in my first Western Humanities class who turned his entire class room into a semester long “Why Christianity is the Root of All Evil” course. Their is brain washing going on at the campuses. Also, “Educated” also refers to the way people, when they are old enough to have an opinion but young enough to have one based on raw emotions and a sense of superiority to the previous generation because they haven’t calmed down from their youth and experienced the real world first hand for any particular length of time.

That said, I am educated. I am working through my degree in Chemical Engineering. My Chemistry Teacher is educated to. We both despise Obama, and are going to vote Republican.

May 20, 2008 - 10:09 pm