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CNN’s Pallywood Gaffe
Did the network stage a heartrending scene in a Gaza hospital?
So the question is: were they re-enacting the resuscitation scene by repeating their actions on a corpse because the child had died earlier? It’s likely that the answer is no and that child is still alive and just an actor pretending to be a child who was killed.
Why do I say that? Because the big guy in the white coat — if he’s really a doctor, nurse, nurse’s aid, EMT, or any sort of health care provider at all — would be entirely aware that tickling the boy’s sternum doesn’t really look like actual chest compressions. If the boy were dead, the man would have done a more convincing job of compressing the chest. The taps on the chest that he’s doing are the sort of thing you see in bad TV dramas, when you don’t want to make the poor actor playing the victim uncomfortable by really pushing on his chest. I think the man in the white coat knows this child is actually alive and is making the simulated chest compressions gentle so as not to hurt the child. My guess is that he assumed the videographer, like those on better TV shows, would have been smart enough not to film as far down as the man’s hands on the chest.
CNN has now taken down the video but left the story up. England’s Channel 4 has a similar story, also emphasizing the pathos of the affair:
Despite his own family tragedy Ashraf Mashharawi managed to send us the images surrounding his brother’s death and the impact on his family.
The family were keen that the story of what happened to them today should be told.
This incident deserves close attention. Like the Gaza Beach tragedy, which the Palestinians turned into a Pallywood extravaganza by blaming Israel for a Palestinian “mistake,” this one has many of the usual suspects:
- The Palestinian child who plays a part in the tragedy “for the camera.”
- The Palestinian cameraman who “with his little camera has a humanitarian message for the whole world” — his excuse for exploiting grief and making propaganda out of tragedy.
- The Western “volunteer” there to help the beleaguered Palestinian people. Then it was “military expert Mark Garlasco.” Here it’s Norwegian radical and occasional doctor, Mads Gilbert. Gilbert is a radical Marxist (there still are some!) who thinks the U.S. deserved 9/11 and who has spent many hours telling reporters what a disgusting people the Israelis are.
- The Western media, ever eager to have its heart-rending story of Israeli cruelty and Palestinian suffering. When caught making an error, it quietly removes the problem without admitting the error.
If indeed this is a false story (and that remains to be seen despite the strong argument that it is) it tells us, above all, about how radically unreliable our information is from Gaza. Here we have a European doctor engaged in staging a scene for the camera. As with the scenes from Netzarim Junction on September 30, 2000, we’re dealing with a public secret: staging is permissible.
All of our statistics and stories about what’s happening in Gaza come from Palestinian sources and NGOs/UN personnel. Many who might discount Palestinian sources nonetheless credit the UN spokespeople and NGOs. In my viewing of the coverage, I’m struck by the Pallywood-style editing we are presented: no long shots, almost every sequence is less than three seconds, and it’s impossible to see whether the person is genuinely injured (e.g., many with no sign of blood). I am not denying that there are dead and wounded, but it may be that the numbers are significantly less that we are told.
Some have argued that it’s a good thing that the MSM has not made it into Gaza. I’m not so sure. Although I think the Western media is exceptionally badly behaved — an Augean Stables of bad habits — it’s not as wretched as the full-bodied weaponized mode of the Palestinian and Arab media. There is a difference between dupes and demopaths. I think had they been there, it’s very likely that a fair amount of the open faking that goes on might not happen so openly. Perhaps some among the swarm of Western reporters would have the courage to say “this is loony.”
And loony it is: the Western news media serve as the major battalion for Hamas in their battle with an Israel they cannot hope to defeat militarily. Alas, they serve a master who desires their destruction every bit as much as they desire the destruction of the Jews.
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Richard Landes is a Professor of History at Boston University. He blogs at The Augean Stables, and maintains The Second Draft as an archival site for all matters pertaining to Pallywood and al Durah. The Second Draft has recently been reorganized and relaunched with new features.
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1. Dave:On television, the “wounded children” I have seen being rushed hither, thither and yon, did
not appear to be injured more often than not.
And in a you tube video of “mass casualties”
the wounds appeared commensurate with the rubber and plastic devices that used to be used in
military training excercises.
Are there innocents being hurt and killed in Gaza? Of course. Are there very many of them.
Jan 9, 2009 - 1:15 am 2. Lenny:I seriously doubt it.
Richard,
The modus operandi in the MSM (as you know better than most),is to fan a contentious story and let the Israelis play catch up.
I have just heard a BBC world service report that Israeli forces shelled a house and killed 30 innocent civilians huddled there for protection. Channel 10 TV news in Israel responded that this allegation is baseless. Yet the BBC continues to report the item with the added caveat that the Israeli government has no comment. The BBC and their ilk’s waves may well yet grow into a Tsunami.
Keep up the good work lad! Always a joy to read and hear you, especially here in Berkeley!!!!!
Jan 9, 2009 - 1:27 am 3. suztours:I’m a licensed Israeli tour guide and as such, have been trained in basic CPR. When I saw the footage of the boy on the hospital bed, I said (out loud to myself), “that doctor is NOT performing CPR – I’ll bet that child is not even injured… THIS is for Western media consumption!”
Glad to know that the doctor in your article believes the same. “Pallywood” productions have been a problem for a while – finally, maybe, some in the west are waking up to it!
Jan 9, 2009 - 2:43 am 4. Ken Besig:As a Jewish Israeli I am happy and relieved that the
Jan 9, 2009 - 3:40 am 5. Little Banana:international news media has been denied access to the Israeli
incursion into the Gaza Strip. The longer we keep these lying,
biased, anti Israel journalistic clowns out of the fighting, the
better chance we have of winning this battle and saving both Israeli
and Palestinian lives.
For far too long the international and even some American media
have been driven by an anti Israel and even an anti American
ideology, indeed, some of these reporters are so supportive of the
Palestinian terrorists, that they will even deliberately act as
human shields to protect terrorists who are actively firing on and
trying to kill Israelis. Worse, many of their so called reports are
nothing more that the rote repetition of anti Israel lies and
propaganda provided by Palestinian terrorists. Moreover, in many
cases even the photographs these faux journalists use to accompany
their false and tendentious reports are either doctored to make the
Israeli Army seem to be committing war crimes, or are taken in such
a way as to show only Israeli military acts, and leave out the
terrorist attacks which prompted them.
I am sorry , but the international media can no longer
be trusted to provide an honest or objective news service regarding
Israel, and increasingly, your country America. Thus if Israel
wishes to protect her citizens, and by the way, protect Palestinians
from their own terrorist leadership’s excesses, then the best thing
to do is restrict media coverage of Israeli military events against
Hamas until they are successfully concluded.
However, I am happy to tell you that of all the networks
covering the fighting in the Gaza Strip, I believe that Fox News and
Sky News have done the most professional reporting of all the news
outlets. I have watched CNN and read the other’s reports on the
internet and their stories are not just biased against Israel and in
support of Hamas, their coverage of Israel is basically hostile and
is often either untruthful or incomplete, while their coverage of
the Hamas terrorists is fawning and unquestioning, no matter how
amazing or incredible the lies the terrorists are telling them.
“I have just heard a BBC world service report that Israeli forces shelled a house and killed 30 innocent civilians huddled there for protection”
Lenny – the Irish radio news was reporting this morning (7:30 am my time) that Israeli forces first advised the civilians to go into the house for protection and then starting shelling.
I did not believe this. Sadly I doubt many of my country-people would think like me.
Jan 9, 2009 - 4:33 am 6. mk:Fake, fake, fake.
As a nurse, I laughed when I saw the video because it’s so obviously staged. The best part: The “bing, bing, bing” of the heart monitor. That’s the warning noise it makes when the leads aren’t hooked up properly or at all. And no IV fluids.
The CPR was just lame.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:18 am 7. Jörg:CNN re-broadcasted the piece and a phone interview with the big brother/cameraman multiple times after they had removed the video. You should have it if you are recording CNN.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:21 am 8. History repeats:That’s the warning noise it makes when the leads aren’t hooked up properly or at all. And no IV fluids- The CPR was just lame.
We know that,
and we know the media knows it.
But half a billion Islamic still believe every little “bing, bing, bing”.
So many of them are living in the 17th century.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:42 am 9. Tom:People, this video has already been debunked. It is a fraud.
Let CNN know what idiots they are and how unprofessional they are. And better yet, stop watching CNN. I had to stop years ago it got so bad. Same with the BBC. Pure rubbish.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:50 am 10. Mike:They have no honor.
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:39 am 11. tino:Imagine that!
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:46 am 12. LynnS:It is my understanding that CNN has done a multitude of dubious reporting in order to keep their affiliates satisfied, and be given media access to areas that other media outlets are denied. The only time I trust them is when they have no time to spin the news which is a rare occurrence. I occasionally watch them to see what they are up to, since unfortunately they have much influence and connections world-wide. I credit them with keeping us on our toes, forcing us to check the facts, be observant and always question. It’s a shame.
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:52 am 13. Bart:I have been trained in CPR and certified. After watching the “staged” chest pumping by the so-called technician, it was obvious without reading any of the comments this entire episode was staged. The hands were not correctly positioned and when performing CPR on a child, you use a different technique than you do with an adult. The next obvious question is why allow a camera into an emergency/operating room setting where sanitary conditions prevail? Even with the European doctor working the emergency room, certain protocol should be followed.
CNN is the most anti-Israeli and anti-American news organization enabler in this country, rivaling the BBC. I haven’t watched CNN in years and won’t.
Jan 9, 2009 - 8:13 am 14. TexEd:Dick – You are wrong. The MSM is more wretched and biased than the Palley media!
Jan 9, 2009 - 8:29 am 15. bread:Proof? Just wait until Obama starts trying to talk to them. “Our” MSM will leak, fabricate and lie about everything. Why? Because Obama is so inept that he can not accomplish a thing, a fact that the MSM can not report. Israel will be accused of rejecting key issues that were never raised or discussed (think McCain and the female lobbyist).
CNN had better fake stories when Sadaam’s Miniter of Information, Bagdad Bob, was writing their scripts.
Jan 9, 2009 - 8:30 am 16. rocketeer:Isn’t there anything that can be done to censure CNN? These people should have to answer to someone for continuously foisting these fakes on us. CNN International is even worse then the domestic version.
Joseph Gerbles would be proud of these people. Tell a big lie, tell it often enough, and then it becomes accepted as the truth.
Shameful.
Jan 9, 2009 - 9:14 am 17. Martge:Did anyone remember seeing video and news reports about the constant rocket hits and the death of Israel children, senior citizens and innocent civilians that were killed with those months and months of rocket attacks. Well I didn’t see any.
Jan 9, 2009 - 9:28 am 18. Sandy Salt:The MSM will not show anything of the rockets inbound to Israel because it will not fulfill their agenda of making Israel the bad guy in this conflict. This is a war between two states with elected governments. If the rockets were falling in the US or any other country (except for Israel), it would be more than okay to kill the enemy until they could not fire another one.
We, Westeners, were more than okay killing hundreds of thousands of Germans, Japanese, and Iraqis when we waged wars with them. Israel has every right to destroy the war making capability of Hamas in the Gaza Strip because they started the war with their rockets. Unconditional surrender has been our motto in our wars, so we should afford Israel the same respect.
Jan 9, 2009 - 10:04 am 19. Michael Smith:What I found hillarious was the news anchor warning that the video is “disturbing”! I wonder if he even watched it.
Jan 9, 2009 - 10:31 am 20. Tex Taylor:Brought to you by the same fine Jew hatin’ network that employs the equally feckless and Jew baiting Christiane Amanpour.
Being in the medical profession, I laughed out loud at the CPR being facilitated. The force administered wouldn’t have circulate blood through a lab rat.
Probably produced by the same crew that brings the Hamas Mickey Mouse knockoff Martyr Mouse; excellent propaganda for the small children to produce next batch of jihadists.
Jan 9, 2009 - 11:49 am 21. Eran:Here are General Sherman’s thoughts on journalists:
I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast.
Jan 9, 2009 - 1:49 pm 22. Peter the Sub Guy:— William Tecumseh Sherman
18. Sandy Salt wrote:
If the rockets were falling in the US or any other country (except for Israel), it would be more than okay to kill the enemy until they could not fire another one.
Peter replies: Sadly, this is not true. I can remember shortly after the 9/11 attacks how the loony lefties were calling for restaint and then blaming the US as evil for launching a war against poor, backward Muslims who probably had nothing to do with the attack on us. (And yes, they were referring to al Qaeda.)
Jan 9, 2009 - 2:13 pm 23. Jörg:The Mads Gilbert CNN video still on the CNN server:
http://ht.cdn.turner.com/cnn/big/world/2009/01/07/holmes.gaza.boy.cnn_576×324_dl.flv
Jan 9, 2009 - 4:54 pm 24. Subh:Live in denial. Cheer on a massacre.
Kill children. Put on your skull caps and rejoice in doing God’s work. How are you people any different from the ‘terrorists’ you so despise?
Hate. Wallow in it.
Jan 9, 2009 - 5:38 pm 25. thegre8_1:Ken great post you would do Israel a favor and let Joe the Plumber into Gaza in addition to Fox News of you really want to piss off the media. In today’s Financial Times there is a big picture of a frightened girl in Gaza by her house near where a bomb hit. There is no picture anyplace of anywhere in Israel that has been hit by those cowards rockets. They have to hide behind women and children Hamas and Hezbollah can’t fight like real men.
Jan 9, 2009 - 5:51 pm 26. Gia212:Ummm, how about some TRUTH:
-Israel is bombing Gaza CHILDREN & CIVILIANS and wiping out entire families with f-16’s & cluster bombs, using depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous.
-Israel is also using twisted psychological warfare – calling Palestinian citizens all times of the day and night with urgent messages to Palestinian people that Hamas has abandoned them and to give up, their homes will be dropped and dropping millions of flyers, inviting Palestinians to call or email the Israeli army to collaborate with them.
-Israel trying to blackmail the desperately sick by witholding access to medical care unless they collaborate.
-Israelis are killing & MURDERING with sick attacks on Palestinians and Gaza under the guise of ‘retaliatiating’ against launched rockets.
ISRAEL HAS PLANNED THIS INVASION 8-9MONTHS.
The Jews are always complaining & sqwawking about how they were treated in the HOLOCAUST and they themselves are as sick as the Nazi’s.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:27 pm 27. Gia212:Do You Morons have your head up your a$$es believing the bullsh*t that Hamas is hiding behind people in Gaza?
That is a convenient LIE so the Israeli’s can try to justify bombing Civilians & children.
WAKE UP!!!!
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:30 pm 28. goolskg:Um, so we’re supposed to believe that those displaying love and concern during the aftermath are the same ones that would have said, “Sure kids, go play on the roof”? They’re either inept or disingenuous.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:33 pm 29. NOT JEWISH!!:As we all know, Israel already has a system in place where people all over the world. Who are usually Jewish, and zionists, attempt to discredit everything that comes out of the media to benefit their cause. You are people in denial. Just in case this ONE video is fake, lets not forget that Israel already holds a huge advantage on media. Oh, and the 700 mostly civilian deaths are real. Israel has learned nothing from the Holocaust, they only use it to further their own cause as a political issue. Makes you think if Ahmadinejad was right?
As for how the media is biased against the Palestinians… WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiyyp9cZdY0
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:34 pm 30. Gia212:Israel tried to pull the same bullsh*t in Lebanon in ‘06 but COULD NOT PUL IT OFF..and rightly so they got their asses kicked out of Lebanon.
They were trying to do THE EXACT SAME THING–WAR ON CIVILIANS…
But, the terrain in Southern Lebanon is much different & Hezbollah was prepared and resisted and fought back well.
Israel sufferng a humiliating FAILED attempt in Lebanon, Israel planned this attack on Gaza…8-9 Months ago. In Gaza, there are tons of people packed in a small space and they along with Hamas are not prepared.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:37 pm 31. History repeats:Fake but Accurate!
Dan Rather.
Jan 9, 2009 - 6:54 pm 32. Peter the Sub Guy:26. Gia212 wrote:
Ummm, how about some TRUTH:
Peter responds: Okay, Gia, here is some truth. After three years of tolerating a bunch of murderous madmen haphazardly flinging rockets, missiles and morters into their country, killing and maiming innocent civilians who only want to live their life in peace, the sovereign state of Israel has decided enough is enough and is DEFENDING their nation, thier citizens and their way of life!
More than can be said for the idiotic madmen who supposedly ‘govern’ Gaza or the idiotic people who elected them with full knowledge that their only intent was to continue to attack Israel until it was gone with no intention of supporting or protecting their own so-called citizens. If the so-called leaders had put their mind to it and decided to build a properous nation, they could be one of the richest territories in the whole of the Med region, and that is without any oil like the other Arab lands contain. But instead they chose death and destruction and the neglect of their own people as well as hiding weapons and fighters in and among the so-called innocent, a double war-crime.
Israel has not passed a law allowing execution by crucifixion. Hamas has. Isreal is providing food, fuel, medicine, medical care and humanitarian aid to the civilian residents of Gaza. Hamas is smuggling in more rockets and weapons.
Nice truth, huh?
Go ahead, try and refute the facts. I dare you!
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:15 pm 33. subreen:Well, it’s confirmed by CNN. The video of the boy’s injuries and death is genuine. I guess Israelis just need to accept that the world is on to them.
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:15 pm 34. Peter the Sub Guy:27. Gia212 wrote:
Do You Morons have your head up your a$$es believing the bullsh*t that Hamas is hiding behind people in Gaza?
Peter asks: Is it even possible that you DON’T believe it? Have you even READ the Hamas Charter? Don’t post your unbelievable opinions until you do.
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:17 pm 35. Peter the Sub Guy:30. Gia212 wrote:
Israel tried to pull the same bullsh*t in Lebanon in ‘06 but COULD NOT PUL IT OFF..and rightly so they got their asses kicked out of Lebanon.
Peter responds: Uh, hello? Israel WITHDREW from Lebanon. It wasn’t kicked out. And the leader of Hezbola in Lebanon even admitted in the aftermath of the short war that his provocation of Israel was a mistake, because he did not think Israel would have the spine to attack like they did.
Israel needs to keep fighting in Gaza until Hamas is smashed beyond all recovery.
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:20 pm 36. Peter the Sub Guy:Oh, and Gia, if you think Hamas and Hezbola are so wonderful, may I respectfully request that you go move to where they are. I’m sure you would enjoy it immensely. Walking around in the desert in head to toe black clothing. Unable to go anywhere without a male family member to escort you. Unable to attend school or hold a job. Sounds like it might just be your paradise!
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:22 pm 37. Peter the Sub Guy:In first interview after Lebanon war to Lebanese station NTV, Hizbullah chief says he would not have kidnapped IDF soldiers had he known Israel would respond the way it did.
Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah said Monday that had he believed, even one percent, that a war would break out following the kidnapping of two IDF soldiers, the operation would never have been launched.
In an interview granted to Lebanese news network New TV, Nasrallah said in an almost apologetic tone that “we did not believe, even by one percent, that the captive operation would result in such a wide-scale war, as such a war did not take place in the history of wars. Had we known that the captive operation would result in such a war we would not have carried it out at all.”
In his first interview since the ceasefire, Nasrallah at times assumed an apologetic stance, unlike the boastful stance taken immediately after the operation.
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:27 pm 38. You GottaBKidding:“Responding to accusations that the resuscitation efforts of Mashharawi’s brother appeared inauthentic, Martin said that, based on his years of reporting from Gaza, doctors often go through such efforts even with little hope that a patient can be saved.”
Jan 9, 2009 - 7:28 pm 39. Sadly:Key word: “efforts”. No effort was exerted in the pretend CPR. Now let’s examine the lack of injury in a boy supposedly suffering multiple shrapnel injuries. Not a single wound visible. One small, watery “blood” stain on the sheet. As his family holds his “lifeless” body, his color is as good as any healthy boy his age. Any healthcare professional can tell you that the color leaves a person who dies–even the unit secretaries. I have many years experience in emergency medicine. The boy in the video was not injured. The theatrics of the “actors” was pitiful. Even hollywood does their homework before filming an E.R. scene. Millions of physicians, nurses, and paramedics are laughing themselves silly right now. CNN has sunk to an all-time low.
“I have many years experience in emergency medicine. The boy in the video was not injured. The theatrics of the “actors” was pitiful. ”
Keep telling yourself this if it makes you feel better. Whatever gets you through the day, I guess.
Jan 9, 2009 - 9:00 pm 40. Alex:I don’t really have an opinion on if the video was staged or not, but I do think that it shows the need of the IDF to allow independent journalists into Gaza, in accordance with a ruling by their supreme court. You can’t constantly attack CNN when they are using what they can get, which may be less credible because the only sources are the people directly affected.
Jan 9, 2009 - 9:43 pm 41. Rubicon:I am also willing to believe the UN as a credible institution when they say how many Palestinian civilians have been killed. It’s hard to call them biased considering that it was a UN resolution that created Israel.
As a side note, Hamas has tempered their stance and have been saying that they would stop the rocket attacks in exchange for the crippling economic blockade put in after they won the elections supported by Israel and the US. Unfortunately Israel seems to think that a peace deal is something where they get whatever they want and can continue the status quo in others.
Too many of the video’s coming out of Gaza, Lebanon, & the West Bank have been shown to be fakes or contrived. If Israel is as bad as they are supposed to be, why are they ever allowing anything into Gaza? If Hamas is so wonderful, why haven’t the rest of the Muslim world come to aid them? The Muslim world tires of the Palestinian victimhood thing & they fear Iran is using Palestinians for the sake of regional control. That is why other Muslim nations issue condemnations, but do NOT send troops.
Jan 9, 2009 - 10:21 pm 42. Jacques:Unfortunately, the public around the world has finally come to realize much of the video sent out has been “produced” and its content is pathetic. I expect the Palestinians & their enablers to get much better at this as their current video looks like bad 1950’s horror film stuff. The “media” is being kept out of Gaza because all they do is promote & facilitate all of the fake victimhood propaganda the Palestinians & their sympathizers keep feeding to all who are unsuspecting enough to not ask questions.
When I hear CNN, I cannot help but recall Ted Burdett’s reporting from Bagdad after the Iraqis were chased out of Kuwait.
Jan 9, 2009 - 10:46 pm 43. Battlecat:The reports were staged; full of outright lies trying to make Saddam look like a social worker while he was slaughtering his people. This Network is complicit to genocide! I have been boycotting CNN since; it’s time for the rest of the world to do the same!
I’d like to point out just a few (of many) anti-Israel media tactics:
1. Names. Dead Palestinians are given names, so as to be innocent civilians. Dead Israelis are simply called “soldiers.”
2. Ages. When Palestinians are killed or injured, their ages are always listed if they are children or teenagers. Yet, the ages of Israelis are almost never given.
3. Injuries. Palestinians who are not killed are either hospitalized or severely injured, but Israelis are only “lightly injured.”
Look for it in every article.
Jan 10, 2009 - 1:44 am 44. Peter the Sub Guy:39. Sadly wrote:
Keep telling yourself this if it makes you feel better. Whatever gets you through the day, I guess.
Peter asks: You have any proof otherwise? because I have heard dozens of people in the medical field telling me all day that the video is staged and fake. And the terrorists are famous for faking scenes like this for propaganda purposes. So if you have any proof beyond your own delusional opinion, please present it.
Jan 10, 2009 - 5:58 am 45. Peter the Sub Guy:40. Alex wrote:
…but I do think that it shows the need of the IDF to allow independent journalists into Gaza…
Peter writes: And as soon as you find some unbiased, independant, objective journalists, Alex, be sure to let us all know.
Jan 10, 2009 - 5:59 am 46. Mike:CNN stage the news?? Come on now people, we all know that that bunch of honest news brokers wouldn’t do that…..or would they?
Jan 10, 2009 - 6:03 am 47. Mike:————————————-
You liberals need to pay lots of taxes cause someone needs to pay for all the free stuff Obama promised me!
Besides the obvious fakery on the CPR, the “damage” on the rooftop was obviously faked as well. A couple of broken cinder blocks that look to have been smashed with a hammer. The laundry was still on the line and furniture undisturbed. Yet we are to believe a missile struck the house. Must have been a bottle rocket.
Jan 10, 2009 - 6:12 am 48. Thomas:#29 Not Jewish:
Robert Jensen whom you are referring to is a hardcore, Anti-American radical propagandist: This is what he wrote (Wiki):
“Jensen wrote that the Al Qaeda attack on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon “was no more despicable than the massive acts of terrorism…that the U.S. government has committed during my lifetime.”
Even his peers rejected his views:
“University of Texas President Larry Faulkner also disavowed the articles, calling Jensen “a fountain of undiluted foolishness on issues of public policy.” (Wiki.)
Advice: a quick search on the net revealed where your sympathy lies- you would feel more at home on DailyKos or or other Islamofascist supporting blogs.
Jan 10, 2009 - 7:08 am 49. Danny:#40, exactly what UN resolution “created” Israel? Israel fought a long hard war against the arabs in 1948. The partition plan was rejected and the UN didn’t lift a finger to implement it rather they tried to prevent Israel coming into existence. If you can’t that basic bit of history right are we supposed to take you seriously elsewhere?
For the UN, if they can’t rape it, steal it or smuggle it they have no interest.
Jan 10, 2009 - 11:27 am 50. YetAgain:My comment about the bunch of thugs known as the Israeli State were removed once again. How brave!
But then what do you expect from a website that has of ‘Joe-The-Plumber’ as its USP!!!
Jan 10, 2009 - 1:35 pm 51. ILikeIke:“If indeed this is a false story…”
It amuses me whenever PJM contributors complain about the “biased agenda-driven media” and they write stories like this.
If indeed this is a false story?????? You mean you don’t know???? You’re just speculating?
Why should I trust you people over CNN again?
Jan 10, 2009 - 4:33 pm 52. Gary Rosen:“Why should I trust you people over CNN again?”
Because CNN has already admitted they slant the news to keep their Arab “sources”, therefore any and all of their reporting from the Middle East is certifiably worthless.
Jan 10, 2009 - 10:22 pm 53. m:Hamas control every picture and video that gets out of Gaza. And yes, some of the children are actually Hamas members/Shahids.
After they kill a bunch of their fellow Palestinians/force them to be human shields, they give the dead bodies a whole parade and a photoshoot. And that’s not the sickest thing, unfortunately.
Later,They cut up the dead bodies. They cut their arms, decapitate babies’ heads, and do many other disgusting things to them. And of course, they blame the Israelis for doing that, because they can. Anyone who actually has common sense should get that the IAF can’t actually decapitate with a bomb, but the MSM loves to spread all these lies.
Jan 11, 2009 - 6:07 am 54. ILikeIke:Gary Rosen, by that logic, everything on PJM is certifiably worthless due to their pro-conservative leanings. Oh wait, I forgot. The only real bias is liberal bias….
Fools.
Did any of you people stop to think that maybe this guy was just really bad at CPR? No, just went straight to the “CNN is in the tank for Hamas” bull. Typical.
Someone’s got a bias problem and it’s not CNN.
Jan 11, 2009 - 9:03 am 55. Peter the Sub Guy:51. ILikeIke wrote:
If indeed this is a false story?????? You mean you don’t know???? You’re just speculating?
Peter responds: Well since none of us were actually in the room when this incident occurred, all we CAN do is speculate. At least we’re not being CNN and stating our opinion as fact when they were not actually present either.
Jan 11, 2009 - 10:26 am 56. Peter the Sub Guy:54. ILikeIke wote:
Gary Rosen, by that logic, everything on PJM is certifiably worthless due to their pro-conservative leanings. Oh wait, I forgot. The only real bias is liberal bias….
Peter responds: Glad to see you are finally admitting the truth, Ike. Conservatives are open to discussion given two opposing viewpoints. Liberals only shut down discussion through shouting and threats when other people disagree with their ‘world view.’ Why do you think only Liberals are aiming to get the so-called ‘Fairness Doctrine’ imposed again?
Jan 11, 2009 - 10:29 am 57. Peter the Sub Guy:54. ILikeIke wrote:
Fools.
Did any of you people stop to think that maybe this guy was just really bad at CPR? No, just went straight to the “CNN is in the tank for Hamas” bull. Typical.
Someone’s got a bias problem and it’s not CNN.
Peter responds: Ike read the story and then calls US fool? The so-called victim is supposedly the brother of the cameraman, who just HAPPENS to be in the hospital when his ‘brother’ dies. And you’re trying to claim a trained hospital orderly doesn’t know enough to be able to perform CPR? I was trained as a First Responder, never worked a single day in a hospital, but even I have the training to properly perform CPR. I would think even the lowliest janitor in a hospital would be properly trained to perform proper CPR just because in that work environment it would be needed and likely required.
Now think about what YOU said, FOOL.
Jan 11, 2009 - 10:32 am 58. Sahar Charara:u can forget about CNN and tune to other channels.. are they all lying? are all the footages fake?
Jan 11, 2009 - 12:08 pm 59. Peter the Sub Guy:what about the numbers? so far, it’s
“In 16 days: 888 Palestinians killed in Gaza (284 children and 100 women) and 4080 injured”
are these also untrue?
these are human beings 4 God’s sake!
… are you?
58. Sahar Charara wrote:
these are human beings 4 God’s sake!
… are you?
Peter responds: Yes, I am very much a human being, which is why I am just as concerned about all the innocent Israelis that, for the last three years, lived in fear or were killed horribly when Palistinian rockets were launched against them as acts of terror, and why I fully support a sovereign nation defending itself against terror.
Is that you, Rekha, because it sounds just like her again. Oh, the poor poor terrorists are dying. Maybe if they don’t launch unprovoked attacks on innocent civilians or allow the hiding of weapons among their homes and schools, they wouldn’t be dying now.
Jan 11, 2009 - 12:50 pm 60. gnubi:The resolution of the whole conflict is completely in Hamas’ control. Formally recognize Israel’s right to exist and stop launching rockets. Who could support IDF actions against Gaza after that?
The fact that Hamas won’t back off must mean this situation is intentional. The root cause is probably money. Hamas leaders and gang members make a lot of it from skimming foreign aid, smuggling, and extortion. How can it not be in their interests to want this to continue and to use every opportunity to continue to produce and export stories of their own grief?
After 3 generations of this conflict, it should be fairly obvious to the Palestinians that the current approach is not working.
Jan 11, 2009 - 3:01 pm 61. Starling:Shouldn’t Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent and future(?) US Surgeon General have weighed in on this matter by now? CNN’s reputation is at stake, after all.
Jan 12, 2009 - 4:39 am 62. Peter the Sub Guy:Dr. Gupta is also the medical correspondent for one of my local TV stations (WBZ in Boston), and they annoucned that he would not be presenting any reports, particularly those that might effect Obama health policy, between now (at the time last Friday) and when the next Surgeon General is confirmed.
Perhaps CNN has a similar policy and they believe commenting on an obviously faked medical procedure could be seen as an interpretation of Obama’s foreign policy?
Jan 12, 2009 - 8:35 am 63. Scottie:It’s interesting to note – laying aside whether or not the video is fake – that so much lather is being generated over the supposed killing of a Palestinian child by a supposed Israeli rocket attack
vs.
the coverage of Israeli children being killed by a Palestinian rocket attack.
Obviously from the degree of coverage, the fate of the Palestinian child seems to be the object of greater sentiment in the news media than similar fates of Israeli children.
Jan 12, 2009 - 10:34 am 64. Peter the Sub Guy:This just in…!
MSM up to the same old tricks…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479485,00.html
In a report maintaining people are starving in Gaza, Mizrahi said, France 2 showed a Gaza resident in a food store saying: “Apparently, there is nothing, as you can see. There are no natural products for the kids. There is no milk. There is nothing here.”
But, upon closer inspection, shelves filled with food can be seen in the reflection of a refrigerator door.
Film at 11…
Jan 12, 2009 - 1:09 pm 65. Liora:No big shock here – CNN is on the same level as the BBC these days with the Israel hatred. We can only expect more of this crap to come. It seems that more than 50% of American people have a taste for the liberal side of things these days. Lets hope Israel can make it thru the next 4 years.
Jan 12, 2009 - 3:13 pm 66. Sharkibark:I came across another France 2 report of the civiliam casualties in Gaza – this one showing what appears to be three dead infants being placed in a row.
I don’t speak french (I’d followed the link from another article) and wasn’t going to watch the whole thing…. then something struck me as really weird.
About 17 seconds into this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KspriAl5dno
a very familiar blanket appears – it seems to be the same one that was partially covering the body of this particular “victim.”
I noticed the blanket from the original video – because I found it a strange thing for the doctors to leave. Even if the family brought the victim to the hospital wrapped in the blanket – the doctors would have quickly disposed of it to see the extent and nature of the injuries. They would also remove it for sanitary reasons.
Perhaps it’s a common pattern and colouring for blankets in Palestine? But perhaps someone with better computer skills than I can compare patterns or something.
It kinda LOOKS the same, at least? And adds another straw of doubt to an already incredulous video.
Jan 12, 2009 - 3:53 pm 67. subreen:Wow! Some people are horribly cruel to think this video is a fake. well, i guess we can assume the holocaust was a fake or at the very least it was six thousand not six millions jews that died. Saying six million jews died under Hitler regime have tended to benefit them very much to have a free pass to break UN resolutions.
Jan 12, 2009 - 4:33 pm 68. Peter the Sub Guy:Hey subreen;
Perhaps you missed this earlier…
This just in…!
MSM up to the same old tricks…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479485,00.html
In a report maintaining people are starving in Gaza, Mizrahi said, France 2 showed a Gaza resident in a food store saying: “Apparently, there is nothing, as you can see. There are no natural products for the kids. There is no milk. There is nothing here.”
But, upon closer inspection, shelves filled with food can be seen in the reflection of a refrigerator door.
Film at 11…
Jan 12, 2009 - 6:02 pm