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		<title>By: SK</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/conservatives-beware-lest-you-drive-moderates-to-extremism/comment-page-2/#comment-321917</link>
		<dc:creator>SK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillarious. Especially the part about Rush Limbaugh (Fat,Fat,Fat/Drugs,Drugs,Drugs)</description>
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		<title>By: BringHomeThePoliticians</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/conservatives-beware-lest-you-drive-moderates-to-extremism/comment-page-2/#comment-286755</link>
		<dc:creator>BringHomeThePoliticians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderates vs. Conservatives is feud being fought for no good reason.

This is the solution to make both sides happy:

BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS!

Enough of saying &quot;Enough is Enough&quot; It&#039;s time to bring them home!

We, hereby, demand and will pursue the relocation of all US Representatives and Senators to spend no less than 75% of their time in elected office in our State Capitals to telecommute via secured phone, fax, email, and web conference with their federal counterparts.

On the Local level, State Representatives and Senators will be relocated to spend no less than 75% of their time in elected office in the City Halls or Court Houses of our Districts to likewise telecommute with their state counterparts.

This will essentially &quot;embed&quot; politicians among the people they&#039;re supposed to represent
allowing them to always be informed with our communities&#039; positions on each issue and
be within close reach to voice our opposition when necessary.

Restores Balance of Power - Citizens are put back in charge of this country.

Nonpartisan - This plan favors no political party since all need to be reigned in.

Anti-Lobbying - Lobbyists spend most of their budget on travel expenses.

Reduce Corruption - Citizens/Local Media resume their role as government watch dog.

Cost Effective - The cost of upgrading state and local facilities for this plan is dwarfed by the savings from stopping out of control government spending.

National Security - Any natural disaster or assault on DC would be far less catastrophic because it would be taking down only one server on a grid of 51.

If not now, then when? From this day forth when you hear someone
complaining about the government, tell them to:

&quot;BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS!&quot;

Here&#039;s the official site:

http://www.bringhomethepoliticians.com/

Petition site:

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/bringhomethep...

YouTube promo clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpJxRIh8hQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderates vs. Conservatives is feud being fought for no good reason.</p>
<p>This is the solution to make both sides happy:</p>
<p>BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS!</p>
<p>Enough of saying &#8220;Enough is Enough&#8221; It&#8217;s time to bring them home!</p>
<p>We, hereby, demand and will pursue the relocation of all US Representatives and Senators to spend no less than 75% of their time in elected office in our State Capitals to telecommute via secured phone, fax, email, and web conference with their federal counterparts.</p>
<p>On the Local level, State Representatives and Senators will be relocated to spend no less than 75% of their time in elected office in the City Halls or Court Houses of our Districts to likewise telecommute with their state counterparts.</p>
<p>This will essentially &#8220;embed&#8221; politicians among the people they&#8217;re supposed to represent<br />
allowing them to always be informed with our communities&#8217; positions on each issue and<br />
be within close reach to voice our opposition when necessary.</p>
<p>Restores Balance of Power &#8211; Citizens are put back in charge of this country.</p>
<p>Nonpartisan &#8211; This plan favors no political party since all need to be reigned in.</p>
<p>Anti-Lobbying &#8211; Lobbyists spend most of their budget on travel expenses.</p>
<p>Reduce Corruption &#8211; Citizens/Local Media resume their role as government watch dog.</p>
<p>Cost Effective &#8211; The cost of upgrading state and local facilities for this plan is dwarfed by the savings from stopping out of control government spending.</p>
<p>National Security &#8211; Any natural disaster or assault on DC would be far less catastrophic because it would be taking down only one server on a grid of 51.</p>
<p>If not now, then when? From this day forth when you hear someone<br />
complaining about the government, tell them to:</p>
<p>&#8220;BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS!&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the official site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bringhomethepoliticians.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bringhomethepoliticians.com/</a></p>
<p>Petition site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/bringhomethep.." rel="nofollow">http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/bringhomethep..</a>.</p>
<p>YouTube promo clip:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpJxRIh8hQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpJxRIh8hQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOLZ Dude you need to go read something on logically fallacious arguments.  You opened ad hominum for instance. If your argument is valid you should not have to resort to such tactics. If comedy was the point, Webster defined as a humorous discourse intended to amuse , you had an epic fail a&#039;la Ms. Sykes at the White House. Go watch your George Carlin tapes for a few days and try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOLZ Dude you need to go read something on logically fallacious arguments.  You opened ad hominum for instance. If your argument is valid you should not have to resort to such tactics. If comedy was the point, Webster defined as a humorous discourse intended to amuse , you had an epic fail a&#8217;la Ms. Sykes at the White House. Go watch your George Carlin tapes for a few days and try again.</p>
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		<title>By: sheesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>76 Ms Attitude . . . Aren&#039;t you supposed to be on vacation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>76 Ms Attitude . . . Aren&#8217;t you supposed to be on vacation?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Attitude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Attitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...sheesh, did you step in some sheesh?  You seem a little high strung there.  Lighten up before you go all liberal jihad on us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;sheesh, did you step in some sheesh?  You seem a little high strung there.  Lighten up before you go all liberal jihad on us!</p>
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		<title>By: Avitar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only the Republican conservatives weren&#039;t such Buzzkills! If the Republicans would just move a little more left it would open enough room on the right for the Libertians to start winning some elections.  It would also strengthen the Democrat Party&#039;s nstural extremely liberal facist constituancy. Their opposition would split along the Teddy Roocevelt/Taft country club line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only the Republican conservatives weren&#8217;t such Buzzkills! If the Republicans would just move a little more left it would open enough room on the right for the Libertians to start winning some elections.  It would also strengthen the Democrat Party&#8217;s nstural extremely liberal facist constituancy. Their opposition would split along the Teddy Roocevelt/Taft country club line.</p>
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		<title>By: Northern Light</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northern Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a final point about the Limbaugh/Powell question which is really a small part of the whole moderate/hardline question.

Sveral weeks ao I thought it would be a great idea to have Rush and Colin run for the GOP nomination for a senate seat in an important swing state. The Republicans need to be viable in the large swing states that seems to always decide presidential elections and having them compete head to head would help decide the question of whether the party should move to the center or the right. Of course, this is never going to happen. Neither man seems too interested in leaving the sidelines and actually getting into the game. It&#039;s a pity because I would find a contest like that to be very exciting.

So in lieu of Limbaugh and Powell, we have an interesting contest shaping up in Florida. Nobody can dispute the importance of a state like Florida for Republicans and although Rush and Colin aren&#039;t going to compete the contest is shaping up to be the showdown I was looking for. Instead of Limbaugh/Powell, the standard bearer&#039;s for the two factions are Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio. Crist has support from the usual party insiders and high RINO appeal. Rubio has support from key interest groups and a potetial army of dedicated conservatives. Crist will have large donors while Rubio will have an abundance of people willing to write $100 checks.

Personally I think Crist will win (poll numbers look pretty good for him), but this is really a double or nothing proposition. Whoever wins the nomination will have to prove themselves in the election itself. A Crist win in the primaries followed by defeat in the election will hurt the moderate cause. The same can be said for Rubio and conservatism. Although a Republican senate win won&#039;t be conclusive proof that one facction is better than the other, a loss will be a setback to whichever faction wins the primary. You can count on whoever loses the primary to say &quot;See I told you so&quot;. If  the winner can&#039;t carry the state.

I don&#039;t know much about which senate seats are up for grabs in 2010, but for the GOP what happens in Florida, win or lose, will be a major indicator of which direction the party should take. As someone who watches this sort of thing like many watch their favorite sport, I can&#039;t wait for this showdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a final point about the Limbaugh/Powell question which is really a small part of the whole moderate/hardline question.</p>
<p>Sveral weeks ao I thought it would be a great idea to have Rush and Colin run for the GOP nomination for a senate seat in an important swing state. The Republicans need to be viable in the large swing states that seems to always decide presidential elections and having them compete head to head would help decide the question of whether the party should move to the center or the right. Of course, this is never going to happen. Neither man seems too interested in leaving the sidelines and actually getting into the game. It&#8217;s a pity because I would find a contest like that to be very exciting.</p>
<p>So in lieu of Limbaugh and Powell, we have an interesting contest shaping up in Florida. Nobody can dispute the importance of a state like Florida for Republicans and although Rush and Colin aren&#8217;t going to compete the contest is shaping up to be the showdown I was looking for. Instead of Limbaugh/Powell, the standard bearer&#8217;s for the two factions are Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio. Crist has support from the usual party insiders and high RINO appeal. Rubio has support from key interest groups and a potetial army of dedicated conservatives. Crist will have large donors while Rubio will have an abundance of people willing to write $100 checks.</p>
<p>Personally I think Crist will win (poll numbers look pretty good for him), but this is really a double or nothing proposition. Whoever wins the nomination will have to prove themselves in the election itself. A Crist win in the primaries followed by defeat in the election will hurt the moderate cause. The same can be said for Rubio and conservatism. Although a Republican senate win won&#8217;t be conclusive proof that one facction is better than the other, a loss will be a setback to whichever faction wins the primary. You can count on whoever loses the primary to say &#8220;See I told you so&#8221;. If  the winner can&#8217;t carry the state.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about which senate seats are up for grabs in 2010, but for the GOP what happens in Florida, win or lose, will be a major indicator of which direction the party should take. As someone who watches this sort of thing like many watch their favorite sport, I can&#8217;t wait for this showdown.</p>
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		<title>By: Spurwing Plover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spurwing Plover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals blabber a lot about TOLERENCE but certianly dont ever practice it</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh! Sheesh,
YOU are such a buzzkill.  If you hate us so much why do you keep inviting yourself to our parties?  Nice projection though, all that drivel about principles and gurus and stuff, topped off by the gold standard of all lefty hypocrisy, thinking for yourself - - something no one could accuse you of. I read more than I comment and let me tell you, any unallied observer comparing your posts to Frank J for originality would find it laughably lopsided, not in your favor. 

True to Alinsky rule 12 you demonstrate without fail that you lack the capacity to join a conversation without insult or ridicule. This was evidenced today by the fact that, for no other apparent reason, you felt compelled to bring up race.  

Keep posting though.  It is reassuring to us diehard conservatives to have such a rich and accurate foil in our midst.  Your inability to discern Republicans from conservatives, and conservatives from the religious, keeps us from harboring the illussion that you might ever be open to the possibility that the principles binding those seprate strains is the superior of our competing ideologies.  Principles? Nothing too complicated, all pretty well spelled out in a 2700 + or - word document we call the constitution. 

Anyone deluded enough to catagorize George Bush as conservative, let alone actually believe Barack Obama was qualified enought to be President, is beyond hopeless and way out their league in this or any serious conservative dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh! Sheesh,<br />
YOU are such a buzzkill.  If you hate us so much why do you keep inviting yourself to our parties?  Nice projection though, all that drivel about principles and gurus and stuff, topped off by the gold standard of all lefty hypocrisy, thinking for yourself &#8211; - something no one could accuse you of. I read more than I comment and let me tell you, any unallied observer comparing your posts to Frank J for originality would find it laughably lopsided, not in your favor. </p>
<p>True to Alinsky rule 12 you demonstrate without fail that you lack the capacity to join a conversation without insult or ridicule. This was evidenced today by the fact that, for no other apparent reason, you felt compelled to bring up race.  </p>
<p>Keep posting though.  It is reassuring to us diehard conservatives to have such a rich and accurate foil in our midst.  Your inability to discern Republicans from conservatives, and conservatives from the religious, keeps us from harboring the illussion that you might ever be open to the possibility that the principles binding those seprate strains is the superior of our competing ideologies.  Principles? Nothing too complicated, all pretty well spelled out in a 2700 + or &#8211; word document we call the constitution. </p>
<p>Anyone deluded enough to catagorize George Bush as conservative, let alone actually believe Barack Obama was qualified enought to be President, is beyond hopeless and way out their league in this or any serious conservative dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always enjoy Sheesh.  He is such an great check for my moral compass.

Although always attributing things that the Democrats have been doing since 1980 to Repbulicans now is a little old.

As to the last paragraph I don&#039;t see anyone on either party.  I only see demigogues.  That is the sad fact.

That so many people hate the America of the 19th and 20th centuries and want any change they can possibly get no matter what it is is another sad fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy Sheesh.  He is such an great check for my moral compass.</p>
<p>Although always attributing things that the Democrats have been doing since 1980 to Repbulicans now is a little old.</p>
<p>As to the last paragraph I don&#8217;t see anyone on either party.  I only see demigogues.  That is the sad fact.</p>
<p>That so many people hate the America of the 19th and 20th centuries and want any change they can possibly get no matter what it is is another sad fact.</p>
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