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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Javelin:
nobody in their clear mind may call Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Sudan our allies

if we have such idiots in Dep of State- so look in the mirror: YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELF. AND WILL PAY.

Bush at least has an understanding that USA must remain in IRAQ for another decade or two - even better.

i hope he does. But it does not matter any more.

I think that ms Rice more likely works  for a foreign power in Moscow

May be not just her among the President&#039;s close advisers.

I payed a lot attention to EVERY WORD PUBLISHED by RICE, her speeches here and abroad, her doctorate, her past. I even found people who attended the same russian program in Leningrad that Rice went. I found things on them too.

I also know- and all of it by the way is in the public domain -
who pushed her in Dep of State and who were those people.

I would not be surprised from what i know about soviet methods to influence  important people - if Bush was or may be regularly is drugged by some very sophisticated mind-controlling chemical agents.

There were numerous instances when it was done.


Our enemy is not islamic fundamentalist- they are used against us because they are idiots and it is easy to find fanatics there
And because naive people like you are so easily fooled((

Well, politicians are no better((

It is all going to end very very bad for all of us, mark my words</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Javelin:<br />
nobody in their clear mind may call Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Sudan our allies</p>
<p>if we have such idiots in Dep of State- so look in the mirror: YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELF. AND WILL PAY.</p>
<p>Bush at least has an understanding that USA must remain in IRAQ for another decade or two &#8211; even better.</p>
<p>i hope he does. But it does not matter any more.</p>
<p>I think that ms Rice more likely works  for a foreign power in Moscow</p>
<p>May be not just her among the President&#8217;s close advisers.</p>
<p>I payed a lot attention to EVERY WORD PUBLISHED by RICE, her speeches here and abroad, her doctorate, her past. I even found people who attended the same russian program in Leningrad that Rice went. I found things on them too.</p>
<p>I also know- and all of it by the way is in the public domain -<br />
who pushed her in Dep of State and who were those people.</p>
<p>I would not be surprised from what i know about soviet methods to influence  important people &#8211; if Bush was or may be regularly is drugged by some very sophisticated mind-controlling chemical agents.</p>
<p>There were numerous instances when it was done.</p>
<p>Our enemy is not islamic fundamentalist- they are used against us because they are idiots and it is easy to find fanatics there<br />
And because naive people like you are so easily fooled((</p>
<p>Well, politicians are no better((</p>
<p>It is all going to end very very bad for all of us, mark my words</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yet Saddam was neither a jihadist as well as a counter weight to Iran. Good thinking, good strategy, so subtle!&quot;

Saddam was a major sponsor of terror activities both among his own people and Palestinian organizations. It was more than paying the families of  suicide murderers for the deeds. His successful dabbling with Biological and Chemical Weapons made him serious danger to the US and Israel and any who crossed the Islamists. 

The Iraqi insurgency displayed the plans of Saddam and the brutality of both the Baathists and Al Q. So whether or not you or I thought Saddam was a Jihadist, does not matter, the folks who followed him did and the folks who took his money for terror did not and the folks who would benefit from his slipping the bonds of UN Sanctions would not have worried if Saddam was a true jihadist or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yet Saddam was neither a jihadist as well as a counter weight to Iran. Good thinking, good strategy, so subtle!&#8221;</p>
<p>Saddam was a major sponsor of terror activities both among his own people and Palestinian organizations. It was more than paying the families of  suicide murderers for the deeds. His successful dabbling with Biological and Chemical Weapons made him serious danger to the US and Israel and any who crossed the Islamists. </p>
<p>The Iraqi insurgency displayed the plans of Saddam and the brutality of both the Baathists and Al Q. So whether or not you or I thought Saddam was a Jihadist, does not matter, the folks who followed him did and the folks who took his money for terror did not and the folks who would benefit from his slipping the bonds of UN Sanctions would not have worried if Saddam was a true jihadist or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Javelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kabud,
nice to see you stuck on those WMD&#039;s, maybe you can get OJ to help you find them after you both find his ex wife&#039;s killer? Since our enemy is Islamic fundamentalism, does it bother you that our allies are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and even good old Sudan? Yet Saddam was neither a jihadist as well as a counter weight to Iran. Good thinking, good strategy, so subtle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kabud,<br />
nice to see you stuck on those WMD&#8217;s, maybe you can get OJ to help you find them after you both find his ex wife&#8217;s killer? Since our enemy is Islamic fundamentalism, does it bother you that our allies are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and even good old Sudan? Yet Saddam was neither a jihadist as well as a counter weight to Iran. Good thinking, good strategy, so subtle!</p>
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		<title>By: Javelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering our main &quot;allies&quot; in the war on (Islamic) terorism are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and even good old Sudan, does this matter? With friends like them, who needs enemies? Or the wonderful Muslims we freed, and they are so grateful aren&#039;t they, in Afghanistan and Iraq now have a freedom hating shariah constitutions. Trouble with Bush, he has no coherence or vision, he wil lie in bed with any two bit satrap who even partially goes along with him instead of having the guts to confront the issue head on. But the right loves his simple minded, incoherent talk and thinking causes it matches their own. Well, at least the Right is willing to fight instead of the geeks on the left with the kumbaya routines. It would be like if after Ve and VJ Day there were two countries actively espousing Nazi and Bushido ideology with ties to occupied Germany and Japan, and those countries were out allies.

I was reading a good book about the North African campaign in WW ll, and even then, there was outrage over leaving Vichy collaborators like Admiral Darlan and others in charge of civil administration of the French colonies there, until a monarchist with Britsh SOE training did him in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering our main &#8220;allies&#8221; in the war on (Islamic) terorism are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and even good old Sudan, does this matter? With friends like them, who needs enemies? Or the wonderful Muslims we freed, and they are so grateful aren&#8217;t they, in Afghanistan and Iraq now have a freedom hating shariah constitutions. Trouble with Bush, he has no coherence or vision, he wil lie in bed with any two bit satrap who even partially goes along with him instead of having the guts to confront the issue head on. But the right loves his simple minded, incoherent talk and thinking causes it matches their own. Well, at least the Right is willing to fight instead of the geeks on the left with the kumbaya routines. It would be like if after Ve and VJ Day there were two countries actively espousing Nazi and Bushido ideology with ties to occupied Germany and Japan, and those countries were out allies.</p>
<p>I was reading a good book about the North African campaign in WW ll, and even then, there was outrage over leaving Vichy collaborators like Admiral Darlan and others in charge of civil administration of the French colonies there, until a monarchist with Britsh SOE training did him in.</p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so far this is the best material covering IRAQ current situation, John Loftus and Ryan Mauro are there as well

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=09F9FC90-1752-4965-8D02-D2EFD4FB112B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so far this is the best material covering IRAQ current situation, John Loftus and Ryan Mauro are there as well</p>
<p><a href="http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=09F9FC90-1752-4965-8D02-D2EFD4FB112B" rel="nofollow">http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=09F9FC90-1752-4965-8D02-D2EFD4FB112B</a></p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 05:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred:
yes, of course.

There are plenty of official proves to the facts WMD were there.

IN my view US foreign policy is a big total mistake either in its execution or in the explanation we get from Washington

When i read about Kissinger or listen to ms Rise- 
i cant help but notice that they are more like our enemy then public servants

It is a miracle that the President somehow manages to navigate our course with relative success</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fred:<br />
yes, of course.</p>
<p>There are plenty of official proves to the facts WMD were there.</p>
<p>IN my view US foreign policy is a big total mistake either in its execution or in the explanation we get from Washington</p>
<p>When i read about Kissinger or listen to ms Rise-<br />
i cant help but notice that they are more like our enemy then public servants</p>
<p>It is a miracle that the President somehow manages to navigate our course with relative success</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Stamford,

 Perhaps I am (too feeble minded). I did run my own search, looking for verifiable documentation, not rumor driven fluff. I found fluff and the 40 cases of rocket parts I was already aware of. I won&#039;t try to explain how or why. Thank you for taking the time to correct my flawed and faulty investigation. 

 Speculation and what I thought at the time was overly heavy emphasis on WMD, as presented to the UN by Sec Of State Colin Powell make precision and accuracy a must when dealing with the issue. The failure of the Survey Group to locate much upon the initial invasion was heartening news in a way, in that it may have been destroyed whether or not by us. 

 So right away, when reading the Loftus report link provided by Kabud, I got hooked on the 1/4 CW measure sent to Iran in 2002 (prior to invasion), I still find that a bit credulous, but I do know stranger things have occurred when dealing with an &quot;enemy of my enemy&quot; situation. Many of the links I checked (like most of the 1,240,000 entries you raised) have little in the way of verifiable fact, most contain opinion or non attributed quotes or worse the stories rely on other stories relying on other stories with no real starting point. Rumor control. I&#039;ve tracked too many of these stories to dead ends before to get too excited. Thank you. 
 
 So the question raised is whether or not the CW hauled in by the Jordanians originated with Saddam. The  sheer volume of it indicates it is highly probable. Other aspects of the story can be (and have been) argued from various POV by various &quot;experts&quot;.  The detail of the CNN story about the size, the intent, and the admixture of Chemicals and explosive potential of the bomb blasts can used to hide or screen the fact that so much material was in fact discovered. 

 I also feel frustrated by the way in which the MSM has handled the intelligence findings of the Clinton White house, and dismayed at the total lack of integrity on the part of many major &quot;news gathering&quot; organizations. Thank you, Mr. Samford, for you dedication to truth and accuracy. 

 BTW, CNN only rarely, is a friend of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Stamford,</p>
<p> Perhaps I am (too feeble minded). I did run my own search, looking for verifiable documentation, not rumor driven fluff. I found fluff and the 40 cases of rocket parts I was already aware of. I won&#8217;t try to explain how or why. Thank you for taking the time to correct my flawed and faulty investigation. </p>
<p> Speculation and what I thought at the time was overly heavy emphasis on WMD, as presented to the UN by Sec Of State Colin Powell make precision and accuracy a must when dealing with the issue. The failure of the Survey Group to locate much upon the initial invasion was heartening news in a way, in that it may have been destroyed whether or not by us. </p>
<p> So right away, when reading the Loftus report link provided by Kabud, I got hooked on the 1/4 CW measure sent to Iran in 2002 (prior to invasion), I still find that a bit credulous, but I do know stranger things have occurred when dealing with an &#8220;enemy of my enemy&#8221; situation. Many of the links I checked (like most of the 1,240,000 entries you raised) have little in the way of verifiable fact, most contain opinion or non attributed quotes or worse the stories rely on other stories relying on other stories with no real starting point. Rumor control. I&#8217;ve tracked too many of these stories to dead ends before to get too excited. Thank you. </p>
<p> So the question raised is whether or not the CW hauled in by the Jordanians originated with Saddam. The  sheer volume of it indicates it is highly probable. Other aspects of the story can be (and have been) argued from various POV by various &#8220;experts&#8221;.  The detail of the CNN story about the size, the intent, and the admixture of Chemicals and explosive potential of the bomb blasts can used to hide or screen the fact that so much material was in fact discovered. </p>
<p> I also feel frustrated by the way in which the MSM has handled the intelligence findings of the Clinton White house, and dismayed at the total lack of integrity on the part of many major &#8220;news gathering&#8221; organizations. Thank you, Mr. Samford, for you dedication to truth and accuracy. </p>
<p> BTW, CNN only rarely, is a friend of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kabud,

Are you, and others on this board, aware that there was a Russian Operation Sarindar executed during the months before the invasion of Iraq?

The Israelis got the goods on them.  There were also witnesses to the program, in Syria and in Iraq, who have provided information about what the Russians took out of Iraq and buried in Syria and Lebanon.

The official response of the United States government has been to go quiet about this and bite the bullet.  Doing so cost us plenty.  Most of the American public thinks the WMD&#039;s were made up shit by Bush and Cheney, but the truth of the matter would enrage them.  But President Bush, the CIA, and the State Department decided that, just in case Russia MIGHT be of help with Iran it would not do to piss the Russians off with a disclosure of the program.

Yet, the program happened.  We have the knowledge about it.  I wonder how a President Obonga is going to react to this information when he lays eyes on it after he gets in office.  It is an official state secret and he will have access to them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kabud,</p>
<p>Are you, and others on this board, aware that there was a Russian Operation Sarindar executed during the months before the invasion of Iraq?</p>
<p>The Israelis got the goods on them.  There were also witnesses to the program, in Syria and in Iraq, who have provided information about what the Russians took out of Iraq and buried in Syria and Lebanon.</p>
<p>The official response of the United States government has been to go quiet about this and bite the bullet.  Doing so cost us plenty.  Most of the American public thinks the WMD&#8217;s were made up shit by Bush and Cheney, but the truth of the matter would enrage them.  But President Bush, the CIA, and the State Department decided that, just in case Russia MIGHT be of help with Iran it would not do to piss the Russians off with a disclosure of the program.</p>
<p>Yet, the program happened.  We have the knowledge about it.  I wonder how a President Obonga is going to react to this information when he lays eyes on it after he gets in office.  It is an official state secret and he will have access to them all.</p>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/26/jordan.terror/index.html

From your fellow terrorist supporting buds at CNN.

There are non so blind as those that refuse to see.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3328383/loftuswmdfinal
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&amp;id=1047

Not sure at what point the evidence will pile up high enough to convience you.  Maybe never.

The search found 1,240,000 entries.  When is enough enough?  Are you too feeble mined to run your own google?
Here is an interesting search result;

http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2004/07/05/Opinion/Dems-Connected.Iraq.AlQaida-691466.shtml

It seems it was the Clinton administration that claimed there were ties between Al-Qaeda and Saddam, NOT the Bush administration.  Not the way the MSM painted that picture, is it?

http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/26/jordan.terror/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/26/jordan.terror/index.html</a></p>
<p>From your fellow terrorist supporting buds at CNN.</p>
<p>There are non so blind as those that refuse to see.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/3328383/loftuswmdfinal" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/3328383/loftuswmdfinal</a><br />
<a href="http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&amp;id=1047" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&amp;id=1047</a></p>
<p>Not sure at what point the evidence will pile up high enough to convience you.  Maybe never.</p>
<p>The search found 1,240,000 entries.  When is enough enough?  Are you too feeble mined to run your own google?<br />
Here is an interesting search result;</p>
<p><a href="http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2004/07/05/Opinion/Dems-Connected.Iraq.AlQaida-691466.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2004/07/05/Opinion/Dems-Connected.Iraq.AlQaida-691466.shtml</a></p>
<p>It seems it was the Clinton administration that claimed there were ties between Al-Qaeda and Saddam, NOT the Bush administration.  Not the way the MSM painted that picture, is it?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Involvement of Russian intelligence

According to high-ranking Russian SVR defector Tretyakov, the Oil-for-Food program was sabotaged by an undercover Russian intelligence officer Alexander Kramar who worked in the UN. Kramar set up the artificially low oil prices in 1998 to allow Saddam to use the oil vouchers as lucrative bribes. The difference between the market price and the artificial price (defined by Kramar) was pocketed by people who received the vouchers from Saddam. Among the bribed were top officials from Russia, France, and China [7]. The biggest part of vouchers (to buy 1,366 billion barrels (2.172×1011 m³) of oil) went to forty-six individuals or organizations in Russia, including Russian Orthodox Church. They pocketed $476 million [7]. Among Russians who received the money were Alexander Voloshin and Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Sergei Isakov, a buddy of Voloshin, carried bags with money from Moscow to Baghdad to return some of the &quot;earned&quot; money as kickbacks to Saddam [7].</description>
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<p>According to high-ranking Russian SVR defector Tretyakov, the Oil-for-Food program was sabotaged by an undercover Russian intelligence officer Alexander Kramar who worked in the UN. Kramar set up the artificially low oil prices in 1998 to allow Saddam to use the oil vouchers as lucrative bribes. The difference between the market price and the artificial price (defined by Kramar) was pocketed by people who received the vouchers from Saddam. Among the bribed were top officials from Russia, France, and China [7]. The biggest part of vouchers (to buy 1,366 billion barrels (2.172×1011 m³) of oil) went to forty-six individuals or organizations in Russia, including Russian Orthodox Church. They pocketed $476 million [7]. Among Russians who received the money were Alexander Voloshin and Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Sergei Isakov, a buddy of Voloshin, carried bags with money from Moscow to Baghdad to return some of the &#8220;earned&#8221; money as kickbacks to Saddam [7].</p>
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