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1. jay:

This is a bold move if true. She lacks experience though but that’s really the only thing that does concern me about her. Other than that she hits on all points and she’s not hard to look at either.

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:19 am 2. Jordan:

Newt Gingrich?

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:29 am 3. Dodgeblogium » Gov Palin for VP?:

[...] looks as if she is going to get the nod. She has chartered a flight to Dayton, Ohio to be with McCain. I am so pleased as I have been pushing [...]

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:31 am 4. Macgawd:

Jay,

Unlike Obama, McCain doesn’t need an experienced politician as a backup. What he does need is a smart, young, energetic leader who has a proven track record of leadership that is in line with McCain’s socio-political and economic ideology. Palin fits this bill very well, and more importantly, as McCain’s VP pick, she’d be able to almost certainly guarantee that many disaffected Hillary supporters move to support McCain, which would hurt Obama tremendously.

And no–it doesn’t hurt that she’s smokin’ hot.

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:49 am 5. RE:

I’ve absolutely nothing against Sarah Palin apart from the fact that her resume is so short, but it appears that the GOP is starting to play the identity politics game also. That’s not good. Based on track record and experience Kay Bailey Hutchinson probably would have been a better choice if the identity group game has to be played.

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:55 am 6. chsw:

First, let’s remember that the event is in Ohio, and that McCain also interviewed Kasich.

Second, CNN says it’s Palin because of a report saying that “a woman and two teenagers” got off of a private plane 30 miles from Dayton. Dayton has its own airport, and it’s not 30 miles away.

Third, a point for Palin - she Jewish (albeit nearly nonpracticing), and therefore may strip some Jewish voters from the Democrats. There are lots of Jews who are not thrilled with what the Democrats have become over the past eight years, especially the more politically conservative Jews under 45.

chsw

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:56 am 7. RE:

But I do like that she’s a female Teddy Roosevelt in her values and lifestyle (a lot)!

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:12 am 8. The Dude:

Wow! A Washington outsider, a principled person, supports drilling and she’s totally hot. The Dude Abides.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:17 am 9. jay:

Macgawd: I agree, but it is still a concern. There is much to like about her and her time as Governor definitely beats Obama’s time as Senator so I will keep an open mind but the more I read the more I like.

“And no–it doesn’t hurt that she’s smokin’ hot.”
No argument there.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:25 am 10. JamesT:

It’s official, it’s Palin.
Daaaaamn (as Will Smith says it), good move for McCain.
Obamessiah’s toast.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:36 am 11. Another View:

Sarah is a fine pick. But lets see you hypocrites tear her apart personally as you do the dems and there wives. Check for any association with radical Israeli groups, scrutinize her ambitions, oh yeah go through her college papers and make something out of nothing. And all that other trash you do. Because you all know nothing about her and you know it.

Although I wish her well.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:37 am 12. Amphipolis:

There is a certain symmetry here. Biden helps Obama clinch the critical swing state of Delaware for the Democrats, with all its electoral votes, and Palin helps McCain clinch Alaska.

But I am relieved he did not pick another senator.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:42 am 13. jay:

Another View:
Actually we will investigate her, unlike the democrats we don’t just pull the lever blindly.
Maybe you should wait till the news settles before throwing words like “hypocrites” around.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:45 am 14. L.Carlin:

Palin. Fantstic.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:48 am 15. Clyde:

We here at PJM were kicking around Palin pretty intensely about 3-weeks ago. It is a great strategic pick for a couple reasons. One, which is obvious and has been stated, she will pull-in may Hillary supporters and women in general. She is smart, successful and attractive (Not hot. Cheryl Ladd was hot. But she is attractive). Also, all we hear about is history. “The first black nominee” over and over. Well although she is not the first female VP-nominee, she may be the first female VP. A lot better chance then GF had with Dukakis, that’s for sure.

Kudos Mr. McCain!

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:53 am 16. Kevin:

Palin doesn’t guarantee victory of course. What she does do is make the job of the dems that much harder. When his Oneness picked Biden, he handed McCain a BIG gift. It allowed McCain to throw caution to the wind, so to speak, and pick anyone he so chose to. And by that I mean he wasn’t pigeon-holed into picking a known name, i.e. Romney, Ridge, etc. It allowed him to be incredibly daring. Obama also took age off the table as a knock on McCain, not too mention damage the “Change and Hope” theme. Biden is truly old school liberal establishment. Barry also pissed off plenty of Hillary supporters. Granted not like all 18 million will change vote, but any defection is one Barry can’t afford in such a close race. But picking Palin does a lot for piquing undecided women voters’ interest. Something Barry harmed by passing over Hillary. And yes I know, even said so myself, that he could never pick Hillary. But to not even have vetted her, if just for political appearances, big time dis. Oh, this is going to be a fun election year.

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:08 am 17. Clyde:

Sorry - Correction before I get corrected - GF was Mondale’s VP nominee. Not that it matters. Both were big loosers!

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:09 am 18. Kevin Tracy:

I owe you guys a thank you. I had a source confirm Palin was in Ohio and that she was the VP before NBC and I’m getting quite a bit of cred for breaking that. I doubt anyone would have noticed at that hour if you hadn’t linked to my post.

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:10 am 19. Clyde:

Correction…GF was Mondale’s VP, not Dukakis. I got my loosers mixted-up. Sorry.

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:12 am 20. Roark:

I agree with RE. This pick is nothing short of a political maneuver to get Hillary’s dis-affected supporters. Pathetic. When it comes to having to choose the second most powerful individual in the US it is the height of idiocy to choose a VP based on a game of political chess. Idea’s used to matter in the USA.-now the best the GOP can do is give us a RINO (republican in name only) and a Governor who doesn’t have much more experience than Obama!

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:26 am 21. ex-democrat:

no, roark, given a choice between only two possible winners, “the height of idiocy” is to support a spoiler candidate (barr) who cannot possibly win.

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:50 am 22. RE:

The more I think about it, the more I’m warming up to Sarah Palin. Her values are trumping her gender - she’s not an empty suit token candidate.

I don’t think she’s a RINO at all, just a little short on time in office - but it’s executive experience that counts for a whole lot more than all the other candidate’s non-executive experience, so it’s a minor issue. She’s a very strong pick given the political landscape.

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:51 am 23. Self-hating boomer:

Finally. Change we can believe in.

Aug 29, 2008 - 9:09 am 24. Olivia:

Roark it is not a ploy. She is a good choice for conservatives. Was Fred Thompson a Hillary voter. Give me a break. You are just sad because your lousy candidate is going down in flames

Aug 29, 2008 - 9:10 am 25. JimB:

I want to see Gov. Palin in full camo! Yes, I am a shallow minded voter who clings to his guns when he feels overwhelmed by the truly intelligent folk. McCain must remember, the media will be no help to him because a woman is on his ticket. They are Socialists, and so is Hillary. She may help him win a few female votes, but not many of the Hillary crowd will ever be anything but Socialists. Obama is an empty suited Socialist. Case closed.

Aug 29, 2008 - 9:30 am 26. ledeagenda.com » McCain Embraces “Drill Here/Drill Now” ANWR Movement:

[...] as she also is a mother of four, and as Pajamas Media puts it, “it doesn’t hurt she’s smoking hot”.  posted by Luke at 10:33:49 [...]

Aug 29, 2008 - 9:34 am 27. Kirk:

It will take a while to get educated about her. Some positive quick hits though : a volunteer son in the US Army, 5 kids, ethical behavior and spending disipline. I don’t like how young she is though; McCain is so old the vice president MAY actually have to break out of funeral duty. She has executive experience, a boost over Obama, and there is nothing indicating she attended a “white power” church compared to Obama and his family. Feels good, need more information though.

Aug 29, 2008 - 9:48 am 28. Minerva:

Tina Fey will open the SNL season as Sarah Palin!

Aug 29, 2008 - 10:02 am 29. Lilith:

I like his choice - and I particularly like that he has chosen a Jewish woman. Whether she practises Judaism is irrelevant to most of us. As my mother once said to me — you were born a Jew and you’ll die a Jew - and there isn’t a thing you can do about it!

And for heaven’s sake, people - McCain is not that old - not for the 21st century - our life spans have expanded somewhat from the Middle Ages - try and keep up with current events.

Death can happen to any of us, at any time.

Aug 29, 2008 - 10:29 am 30. Randy:

I am thrilled. She did a great job in Dayton. @Minerva - I TOTALLY thought the same thing.

Aug 29, 2008 - 10:30 am 31. John Samford:

I’ve absolutely nothing against Sarah Palin apart from the fact that her resume is so short.

It’s longer then Ohhhhhh……BAAMA’s. It is better then Biden’s. One reason why Senators have trouble getting elected President is that very few of them have Executive Experience.
Of the 4 candidates, Palin has the most executive experience. Senators DON’T decide things. They vote on other peoples decisions.

“Behind every argument is someone’s ignorance.”
Louis D. Brandeis
US jurist (1856 - 1941)

“Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.”
Vernon Sanders Law

Aug 29, 2008 - 10:33 am 32. Self-hating boomer:

Lilith, do you have a link? That’s the first time I’ve heard that.

Aug 29, 2008 - 10:48 am 33. Daria:

For the first time this election season, I am actually excited about voting for John McCain. And after listening to Sarah’s speech today, I am even more impressed. Now I will donate time and money with enthusiasm. McCain-Palin ‘08!

Aug 29, 2008 - 11:05 am 34. BackwardsBoy:

Wow! What a pick! This is so good that I don’t know where to begin. Shocked, surprised, relieved, energized… and I just ran across a picture of her leaning against a Harley, not a Sportster, but a full dresser. This is great for conservatives who thought McCain was about to abandon us. This is also baaaaad news for The Vapid One. Anything he says to deride her qualifications will automatically make him look like the hypocrite that he is. Her cojones are bigger than his, too.

Aug 29, 2008 - 11:17 am 35. Kurt:

I’d agree with RE’s reservations about McCain playing the identity politics game with this pick. I have nothing against Gov. Palin, but I feel like this is a risky pick since it does blunt his attacks on Obama’s inexperience a bit.

Aug 29, 2008 - 11:29 am 36. HRPKathy:

This does NOT blunt criticism of Obama’s experience - who as a Senator has done nothing. Palin has 14 years of EXECUTIVE experience, two years aa Governor trumps two years as a senator (spent campaigning).

This is not identity politics and as a woman that offends me. Palin is a known reformer at a time when republican corruption lost us seats in 2006. She is the ONLY credible reformer prominent in our party. Who else could he choose?

She made her career bucking the party establishment, cutting her own salary. Obama started his career using the most corrupt political machine in the country, and garnering his wife a tripled salary. Vast difference between the two and their ideas of service.

Palin isn’t the right woman - she is the right person.

Stop the sexist and identity politics now.

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Aug 29, 2008 - 11:47 am 38. BC:

Picking the governor of a remote rural state, who’s also an ex-beauty queen with a completely non-notable political career was strictly a marketing decision based on the fallout of the Obama-Clinton(s) drama. And the timing of the announcement was meant to draw attention immediately away from what happened at the DNC convention. Not that this may be a bad thing tactically in the short run, but you’re still left with a person at the #2 slot who is suppose to be ready to be President if need be.

The comparisons to Obama’s experience don’t wash — he was his own person when he took on Clinton, who was the prohibitive favorite just a year ago, and he and his people had to work and scrap very, very hard to pull out the nomination — he earned his way to the gold medal round. Palin’s opinions and policies seem more in keeping with that of a Republican housewife a little bit hazy about the big picture. Prior to her being picked by McCain, she was mostly known for some right wing positions including supporting drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, suing the federal government for putting polar bears on the Endangered Species list (she’s a “global warming skeptic,” aka “being willfully ignorant of science”), and getting involved in some sort of local scandal involving firings called “Wooten-gate.”

So she appears to be very lacking as a potential world leader, but the specifics of skills, integrity and wisdom are not the things that get reported and discussed much these days….

Aug 29, 2008 - 12:02 pm 39. Kevin:

But yet obama can’t gain more than one or two points on McCain. The dems should be able to beat any Republican even if they dusted off William Jennings Bryant’s bones and ran him. Could it be that the media was wrong about the mood of the country? If that is so, the dems are barking up the wrong tree and will face defeat. Or it could be that the more people see and hear about obama, the less they like him. That his lack of any real leadership experience in the number 1 slot of the democratic ticket is a problem that he has yet to fully address in the undecided’s eyes. In the end VP nominees don’t matter to the election results. They may bring a small amount of voters, but in the end it’s the presidential nominee that wins the voters over.

Aug 29, 2008 - 12:21 pm 40. HRPKathy:

BC - your ignorance about the accomplishments of Governor Sarah Palin could be easily remedied.

Rural state? How many ‘of the “57″ states are rural?’ - What a bigoted remark. Inner city corruption is not what America needs. Outsiders like Sarah Palin with a record for reform (look it up) will bury cynics and bigots who see only genitals and the color of one’s skin who are intent on spewing that ignorance on unsuspecting blog sites.

Obama has never been his own person. He’s owned by the corrupt Chicago Machine (convicted Rezko, most recently). He hasn’t even been a good senator - ‘finding himself’ in time to defeat a rerun of the Clinton Dramas is not a skill needed in the White House.

Aug 29, 2008 - 12:21 pm 41. penny:

“he was his own person when he took on Clinton”…..Hey, BC, or was Obama the invention of the MSM who annointed him early in the game? Obama’s roots are his being a political hack from the Dem’s infamous Chicago machine. And the majority of Americans want drilling, so it seems more mainstream than “rightwing” to me. Think you can run your car on Pepsi in the future? But, I guess you haven’t been noticing the ongoing polls on that issue. Oh, and, polar bears by the numbers aren’t endangered anymore.

One more thing, the GW agenda is woefully short of hard science, but, I guess you’ve never noticed that too.

Aug 29, 2008 - 1:06 pm 42. USAlovinMom:

As a woman, wife and mother, this is a an exciting day for all Americans. I can relate with Palin on so many levels. Palin has more experience running as the VP than Obama running for President. She’s beautiful, smart, tough and a wonderful mother. What a great day for America!!! Thanks John McCain!!

Aug 29, 2008 - 1:10 pm 43. shcnargley:

This is another slap in the face of real wymin everywhere…a cheap attempt to steal the Hillary constituency.

Palin has done nothing noteworthy but served as a breeder for a male. Yo, Palin, like ever heard of the greatest liberator of wymin - the abortion? And FIVE children? C’mon girl! Can you spell carbon footprints, overpopulation, or global warmin? Hello? Geesh!

And just look at her..all the neanderthals are sqwawking and drooling at how “hot” she is. No example she to our young wymin on how not to become a sexual object for men.

And to speak of examples to future feminists evrywhere… what kind of indelible image will it plant in the maleable minds of millions of girls to see s pretty woman bowing and scraping to another white old male? This is a travesty to the movement!

As wymin, our only option left is Obama-Biden. What a joy it will be to see an old, white male bowing and scraping, doing the bidding of a young, verile, progressive black male.

Aug 29, 2008 - 1:59 pm 44. Roy M:

President Palin?

Aug 29, 2008 - 2:11 pm 45. Self-hating boomer:

The women cheer and the wymin snarl. That’s all the evidence I need that this was a good choice.

Aug 29, 2008 - 2:31 pm 46. Dave ll:

Pity poor Obama. Gives a good speech and all the MSM will be talking about this Labor Day weekend is Sarah Palin.

McCain timed it perfectly and picked the perfect VP!

McCain/Palin ‘08

Aug 29, 2008 - 2:36 pm 47. penny:

“Wymin” pundit seems annoyed that he/she wasn’t aborted being the spawn of a subservient “breeder” mom him/herself and is now forced to lead a life as a self-loathiing carbon foot print sub-human. Sad.

Latent potty training issues? Wow. How does one evolve into such a bitter negative person?

Aug 29, 2008 - 3:30 pm 48. cmblake6:

shcnargley:. Yo, dayam girfren, are you representative of those who take your tack? With that, I’ll merely compliment McCains decision. Sarah Palin has true executive experience. First as a Mayor, then as Governor, and constantly fighting corruption within such sphere as she occupied. Conservative, NRA Life Member, hunter, fiscally responsible, excellent choice.

Aug 29, 2008 - 3:39 pm 49. BC:

To HRPKathy: Alaska is indeed an *extremely* rural state — Anchorage is Alaska’s largest city with only a population of about 260,000, yet that represents more than 40 percent of the entire state total. You put that in the context of the physical size of the state, and we’re talking rural rural.

As far as accomplishments go, she’s only been governor for two years and the mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla before then. She does have a rep for reform, but that seems mostly due to her Alaskan Republican opponents being such over the top, corrupt scoundrels. Her record does indicate a throwback to pre-neocon conservatism, when the emphasis was on small government and being pro competitive business. Still that doesn’t amount to that much. And you should probably Google her name with “Mike Wooten”.

Aug 29, 2008 - 3:40 pm 50. Dane:

Err, I’m pretty sure it was sarcasm.

Aug 29, 2008 - 3:48 pm 51. shmuel:

Sarah is far from Jewish, though she looks it a little bit

Aug 29, 2008 - 4:00 pm 52. kay:

Don’t forget, we here at PJM had her in a dead-heat with Romney as the best choice for VP in a poll 3 months ago….

Aug 29, 2008 - 4:02 pm 53. HRPKathy:

I know the story about Mike Wooten, do you?

I suppose you think it’s okay for a policeman to taze his eleven year old son? Really, it’s you and Mike Wooten, and democrats looking for just anything to hang their tiny wee hats on.

You want people like that carrying a GUN? Only a democrat would consider this corruption. Mothers everywhere are appalled.

Let’s compare the states of the VPs:
Alaska:
–Pop: 670,053
–Non-Hispanic White: 66.4%
–Largest City (Anchorage): 268,700

Delaware:
–Pop: 853,475
–Non-Hispanic White: 69.0%
–Largest City (Wilmington): 72,826

(source: U.S. Census Bureay, 2006)

And what has Obama done? Campaigned.

While she’s been passing ethics legislation and eliminating cronyism, Obama has been promoting his career. Whose life speaks to service, BC?

Whose life speaks to reform?

I live in a rural state, lots of us do. NM is a rural state, maybe the democrats don’t want their electoral votes.

Elitism at its finest. Yup that’s the argument. Way to go. It’s okay to come from a small state (Delaware) if you are a democrat.

Nail your other shoe to the floor, BC, your life is going in circles.

Aug 29, 2008 - 4:05 pm 54. kay:

In the immediate quip from the Dems, I forgot to mention they demeaned her as being a mayor of a ’small town’, before she was even officially chosen by McCain. It astounds me how many in this nation aim to have it run by an elite socialist party. Does any self-proclaimed common liberal understand that ‘liberal’ is referring to the LIBERAL USE OF GOVERNMENT? Sounds like a plan, sign me up!

I guess when a CHANGE bumper sticker can wow you like a foil gum wrapper wows a crow, you almost have to make an argument against modern medicine in favor of natural selection. Apparently roughly half this nation would of long ago chased a butterfly off a cliff or tried to pet a mountain lion if this were 10,000 BC. I wonder if helmets and seat belts really were inventions beneficial to humankind.

Aug 29, 2008 - 4:38 pm 55. penny:

“Her record does indicate a throwback to pre-neocon conservatism, when the emphasis was on small government and being pro competitive business. Still that doesn’t amount to that much.”

Hey, BC, except we are a nation of small business owners unlike Europe and the rest of the world. A little advice from Jefferson that many of us are still mindful of, “the government that governs less governs best”. Look no father than the Nanny State rot in the EU for an insight into how moribund socialists can make a society.

And Obama’s accomplishments other than as a political hack that has never had a real job, has an insipid Senate record basically aping Ted Kennedy’s lefty tired old sludge? He’s a nobody. Change his skin color and even the MSM would laugh at his nothingness.

Aug 29, 2008 - 4:39 pm 56. kay:

Penny, unfortunately some people in this nation believe they are incapable of taking care of themselves and wish rich elite politicians to make the decisions for them. It’s difficult to argue with someone who doesn’t even believe they can run their own lives or spend their own money and would much rather have Nancy Pelosi do it for them. Not to mention that being they can not handle it, then they assume that everyone else must feel the same way. So sold on this idea, they line up with a religious fervor for a candidate that says he will gladly take care of them, irregardless if he never says one single word detailing how he plans to do it.

Aug 29, 2008 - 5:40 pm 57. kay:

As far as how much melanin any given human’s skin may HAVE being a defining factor as to what kind of human they ARE, I’ll leave that to the racist elites of the liberal-socialist party to argue about, as to them it apparently means a lot-and reducing it’s meaning is completely against what the party stands for. Any logical person knows there is only the Human race.

Aug 29, 2008 - 5:48 pm 58. goy:

Sooo…

Who’s up for a Recreate ‘84 rally?

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:06 pm 59. Self-hating boomer:

I think this is shaping up more like ‘88. Complete with a donkey ticket with a weak, whimpy metrosexual uberliberal running for president, and an obnoxious loudmouth for vice president.

Aug 29, 2008 - 6:58 pm 60. Roark:

Earth to Olivia-I am not an Obama bin Laden supporter. I am voting for Barr. I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach when I heard Palin brag about how her husband was a proud union member.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:44 pm 61. Barbara:

Palin is a Christian. I noticed in her bio she belonged to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. I believe her denomination is Assemblies of God.

Aug 29, 2008 - 7:49 pm 62. John:

She has more Government Executive experience than McCain, Biden and Obama combined, with more than a decade in executive management. So lets be honest about experience, she wins hands down.

She will bring a good perspective of how Federal initiatives impact State and local Government and how these levels of Government can contribute and do things the FEDS can’t or should not. Ever hear of unfunded mandates??? I think Sarah will bring an awareness that the Federal Government is not the solution to all our problems as Obama seems to think it is.

She has run two succesful small businesses. She is the only one of the lot who has experience doing that, and that is where all the jobs are being created. She knows economic reality.

She took on special interests, and a corrupt leader from her own party while serving on a Governing Board and resigned when the Governor would do nothing about it. Wow someone with integrity!!!! The corrupt Board member was head of the State Republican Party and eventually was sacked for the ethics violations vindicating her. Then she ran against and beat that weak Governor in her party Primary and defeated a former Governor to be the first female and youngest Governor of Alaska. She is a true reformer, passing ethics reform as one of her first actions. One of the next things she did was to take tax money away from the Government and give it back to the people in Alaska. What a novel idea!

She also can take care of herself in the wilderness of Alaska, having been in commercial fishing which is no small thing if you have ever been in the bush up there. She is very a substantial human being.

I think you will find Sarah Palin has much more depth doing things than either Obama or Biden. I can admire Obama’s community organizing as it was an honorable and idealistic choice, but did it prepare him to lead a country? I think leading a small town and State probably has more relevant experience. Being a legislator is really not a responsible role like Mayor or Governor, as you are only one of many. Sarah is a leader.

I think you might be surprised how well she will do in this position. She has done well in all she has tried so far.

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:11 pm 63. Brendan:

I really don’t see any way out of this conundrum: McCain is either a hypocrite about the importance of foreign policy experience in fitness to serve as president, or he has just appointed someone as his vice-presidential candidate who he would not consider fit to be president.

Could someone please explain this to me in a fashion that does not include the Republican talking-points (ie, don’t use the words “commander of the national guard of Alaska,” because that’s just an embarrassingly empty argument).

There is something about Palin that I like, though. She just seems so…wholesome.

And yes, she’s easy on the eyes.

Aug 29, 2008 - 8:17 pm 64. Give it up:

This is an election for the presidency of the United States, not a Miss America pagent. How pathetic to end with the comment that “she’s easy on the eyes” or something else to that effect. What an insult to her and women everywhere. You are just falling into a typical chauvenistic role, valuing women for their looks. It’s also insulting to think that women or blacks would vote for someone based solely on their gender or skin color. Gee, you conservatives are quite a superficial group. Must be why when I hear you talk, I don’t hear anything but excuses and blame - never any issues of substance.

Aug 29, 2008 - 9:48 pm 65. The Jude Oracle:

Time to make hotel reservations right now for the inauguration.

YAHOO!!! LANDSLIDE!!!!! McCain- Palin!!!

Aug 29, 2008 - 10:08 pm 66. Brendan:

Hey “Give it up.” You clearly didn’t read my entire comment before jumping down my throat, as it was a substantive criticism of McCain’s choice.

And Palin IS easy on the eyes. So is Obama. McCain and Biden, not so much. Am I still sexist? Image is an important aspect of political campaigns, and looks are relevant to the image a politician creates. Perhaps they shouldn’t be, but that’s a separate discussion.

Also, I’m not a conservative. I’m a liberal and an Obama supporter. If the only liberals who come on to this site to comment are people like you who don’t even bother to read an entire comment before launching a specific attack against it, it’s no wonder the conservatives here have an unfavorable view of liberals. Please, do me, yourself, and our candidate a favor and adopt a less combative tone so that an actual discussion on the issues might actually take place.

Aug 29, 2008 - 10:27 pm 67. ic:

McCain is not that old - not for the 21st century

Recent well known deaths: Tim Russert, Tony Snow.

Give it up, I’m glad you have. Just list Obama’s accomplishments to dispel the insinuations that he is there solely because of his skin color.

Aug 29, 2008 - 11:35 pm 68. mtd:

So very interesting to see all the comments regarding Sara Palin’s experience. Compared to the “experience” of Obama, there’s not much comparison at all. She’s been a Gov. of a state and prior to that a mayor. So, what “experience” are people looking for? I know she doesn’t fit the “DC insider” specifications like Biden but, I do believe, her “experience” will be a big plus for this country. Not only that but her standards, her beliefs, and her willingness to go against the established ” same way as always ” crowd. Not only did McCain hit a homerun in this choice, it’s more like a grand slam and libs can’t stand being out smarted. ‘course that’s not difficult at all, out smarting a lib that is…

Aug 29, 2008 - 11:39 pm 69. TomP:

The shrill rantings,against Sarah, from the Dims shows how frightened they are of a young woman who can dominate future politics in the US for years. She actually more qualified at this moment than Obama.

Aug 30, 2008 - 5:08 am 70. Lilith:

Sorry - may have been misinformed about her being Jewish - will check.

Aug 30, 2008 - 7:50 am 71. Charlie (Colorado):

Could someone please explain this to me in a fashion that does not include the Republican talking-points (ie, don’t use the words “commander of the national guard of Alaska,” because that’s just an embarrassingly empty argument).

Yes. Palin is better qualified to be Vice President than Obama is to be President.

Or, Jonah Goldberg: “I would rather have John McCain in office for two years with Palin going to school on the job than have Barack Obama in there from day one.”

“I think the bottom line on Palin is pretty simple. If she does a good job at the convention and survives about three weeks of serious media scrutiny — no horrible gaffes, no unforgivable I-don’t-knows to gotchya questions (fair and unfair), no botched hostile interviews — she will emerge as the single most inspired VP pick in modern memory and she will give the Democrats migraines for a long time to come, assuming there are no terrible skeletons we don’t know about.”

Or an emailer at NRO: “Does Barack Obama have the experience to take over, if – God forbid – something happens to Joe Biden?”

Or, Victor Davis Hanson: “We are supposed to believe that a first- term Alaskan governor is less qualified for the second spot than a first-term Illinois Senator is for the Presidency….”

Aug 30, 2008 - 12:23 pm 72. mike shelton:

Contrary to the hardheads, his choice of Palin was brillant. Do you want to know what experience matters to the American people rather than the egotistical intelligensia? 1) She knows energy as evidenced by the respect others hold her knowledge of oil and gas. 2) She knows gas and groceries. 3) She’s raised children, loves hunting, believes and God and gun ownership. 4)Has a real man for a husband. 5) Expresses herself clearly without nuance. 6)Has used elective office to clean corruption, spend where wise and cut where deserved. 7)Being pro-life doesn’t hurt in many quarters. Living it by not aborting a down syndrome baby counts for something. A spirit of public service rather than entitlement.

As for foreign policy, its not what you know, but what perceptions are brought to the table. As governor of Alaska she has to deal with Canada and the Pacific Rim countries on trade, tourism, and border issues. Major military installations are in Alaska and she’d have to interact with those.
You can whine about her time in elective office as a qualification. There are more important factors to consider. I believe the qualities revealed thus far carry greater weight than how well she knows Saudi royalty or Putin’s soul.
John McCain, much to my surprise, has made an unexpectedly outstanding choice.

Aug 30, 2008 - 4:16 pm 73. The Jude Oracle:

Palin has executive experience successfully running the largest State in the USA, sharing international boundaries with Canada and in close proximity with Russia. Her international bona fides include negotiating with British, Canadian, Russian and other government, military and trade representatives, as well as dealing with international/multinational business enterprises.

Oh, and by the way, Palin and her husband have run a ‘real’ business, being responsible for making a ‘real’ payroll after creating ‘real’ jobs for others.

Seems experienced enough for me.

Aug 30, 2008 - 5:06 pm 74. Believer:

“There is something that I like about Palin, though. She just seems so…wholesome.”

Yes, Brandon. What I think you see is a woman of integrity. And a woman of faith. There is something that radiates — a goodness — and a sense that this is someone you can trust.

Her actions are consistent with her words. In her, there is no guile.

She’s strong in character and has shown good judgment. She is, quite simply, able to lead. I hope you continue to be drawn to her. Our country needs more Sarah Palins.

Aug 30, 2008 - 5:23 pm 75. Believer:

Sorry, Brendan, to get your name wrong.

Aug 30, 2008 - 5:27 pm 76. BC:

TO HRPKathy: Perhaps you can’t read or are math and/or geography impaired — I mentioned the population of Alaska relative to its size. Also Delaware is physically the smallest state next to Rhode Island, and Alaska is about 280 times than it. You factor in how Delaware’s population is still larger that Alaska and how it’s location on the East Coast south of New Jersey makes it part of the densely populated North East, and there is no valid comparison between the demographics of very, very rural Alaska and Delaware. It’s not exactly being elitist to point out when someone is from a very rural state. I didn’t say “hick” (although it’s tempting to do so whenever I read posts like yours.)

As far as what Obama has done, Google is your friend (as long as you avoid fact-free and hyperventing right wing websites like, um, well, this one…), and it might help you find something like this for instance:
http://scottpaeth.typepad.com/main/2008/02/obamas-accompli.html

And bear in mind that Republicans were in control of the Senate up until the 2006 elections, which meant any and all attempts at real reform and things to make the country better were constantly stymied (Republicans should *always* be the minority party — they become major, corrupt screw-ups when they are in control.)

And your version of the Mike Wooten issue is just Republican spin: Wooten went through a messy divorce with Sarah Palin’s sister, Molly McCann.
The Palin family accused Wooten of drinking beer while in his patrol car, illegal hunting, firing a Taser at his 11-year-old stepson, and threatening to kill Sarah Palin’s father. But messy divorces are “messy” because charges come pouring out like Republicans from a building whenever someone starts talking about science or ethics.

Aug 30, 2008 - 11:02 pm 77. Brendan:

Thanks for your response (again!) Charlie Colorado.

I just think it’s strange that there’s all this talk about on-the-job training in the vice-presidency, when even Senator McCain has said that the most important quality in a vice-president is the capacity to take over as president.

It’s not a trivial concern, especially taking into account Senator McCain’s age and health record. Has McCain appointed someone he REALLY thinks is ready to be president, or is it just a political ploy to capture a portion of the electorate that his campaign thinks is suddenly up for grabs?

If McCain has picked a VP who isn’t ready to be President–according to McCain’s OWN standards–then what does that say about his judgment?

Aug 31, 2008 - 2:14 am 78. chae s. sone:

A petition to Bishop Jeremiah J. Park to recover misused Church money

Dear Bishop Jeremiah J. Park:

Current and earlier events need the attention of your office because they will test the meaning of Christian values and of honor among Koreans.

Recently, you advocated, “No torture”, and with other religious luminaries you have marched to the United Nations to protest against the torture and abuse of suspected terrorists held at U.S. facilities in Guantanamo, Iraq, and Afghanistan. However, why have you not condemn the torture and abuse of the innocent members within your church?

Unwittingly it seems to appear the double standard of morality in the episcopacy as you overlooked the torture agony within a Methodist church.

In any event, the church should not be let alone in a Mafia image under your jurisdiction.

More specifically, Mr. Steve Park, and other church officers, had deliberately and consistently tortured and abused my family for many years while the church remained silent. He and his church underlings used the church’s name and trust fund to malign my family and me in order to rid of us from the church. It was to cover up the looting of the church money.

For instance, for one of the three frivoouls lawsuits, Mr. Park falsely accused my son and me that we planned to kill him, his family, his attorney, and other church members in one of his court depositions:

12 A “He said watch out, you asshole,
13 Specifically said you asshole, you watch out, if
14 You don’t watch your step; I’m going to kill you.
…
5 A “I’m going to kill your whole family.”
6 Q That’s what Dr. Sone said to you?
7 A “Yes.”
P. 62; 9-17, 21-23.
9 Q You’re claiming that Dr. Sone
10 threatened to kill you and your whole family?
11 A “Yes.”

Furthermore, he substantiated his assertion that more than 10 persons had witnessed our threats to murder. His witnesses included Reverend Wontae Cha, Y. S. Kim, K. D. Shin, Y. H. Lee, Y. J. Kim, D. J. Chun, Paul Choi, Y. J. Kwon, and I. C. Lee.

Rev. Cha is a good colleague of yours according to information.

Because of his false allegations, my son and I were on trial at the New York State Supreme Court in Nassau County. He used the church’s funds to finance his lawsuit against us. In his lawsuit, Mr. Park also demanded $4,000,000 in damages, while pushing us into the jail as felons.

His lawsuit had nothing to do with the church and was simply a personal vendetta against us. My only offense against Rev. Cha, Mr. Park and others was to strictly observe my fiduciary duty as the chairman of the Board to protect the church’s Building Fund. Nevertheless, according to the court records, officials from the church hierarchy and Steven Park had deceived the judge as if the case was a church-related during an ex-parte conference.

Now, Bishop Jeremiah J. Park must be responsible to identify the persons who were at the secretive meeting with the judge. He must investigate all and any conspiracy against the church and its members. The bishop’s actions matter much with the prestige of the episcopacy.

The year 2008 is the 87th anniversary of the Korean United Methoidst Church and Institute. Bishop Jeremiah J. Park, Reverend Won Tae Cha, Steven Park, Young So Kim and other such characters one day must come to the church and faithfully explain to the worshippers for the justification of the looting for either personal gain or criminal racketeering against the innocent loyal members.

The cowardly leadership owes an explanation to the fellow church members about the mismanagement of church finances: For example, an $180,000 building renovation contract lost for nothing. It only enriched the related parties. Or, another example when the chairman of the board of trustees embezzled $70,000 he is awarded with church money to pay for his legal fees and for part of his embezzlement. Also his faction paid the fines for the sanctions and the contempt of court with the trust fund although they had to pay. Another irony is Methoidst Mission Fund donated $50,000 to the trust as if an incentive to the looting

The judge and NYS Attorney General advised to recover the funds from the abusers. But, why anyone in the church leadership has done anything about these malfeasances?

Now, the time has come to your office to clarify the ultimate moral issues. On July 15, 2007, the church decided to hire a certified public accountant (excluding Korean CPA) to audit the church finances starting from year 2000. The audit is to determine if any fraud has occurred. But, since then, Reverend Chang, the current pastor, who is a friend of yours according to information, has not yet started it.

The church must recover the stolen funds from Mr. Park and the embezzlers. Perhaps, the church may file an insurance claim for the stolen funds so that the insurance company can compensate them. But, you, the bishop, must enforce church rules and order to help this church recover financially as well as morally. Otherwise, the church has no standing as “a light house” to the dark world.

Now, remember that any decent mind cannot allow our historic church to be built on the foundation of the age-old scandals, but on “the rock”. Most of all, the church should be liberated from evil capitulation still in power. If Mr. Park and others like him have succeeded to scapegoat the church scandals on an innocent family, then they would have said, “Halleluiah!!” The church should be maintained as a house of prayer, but a “den of robbers.” (Matthew 21; 13)

Without any further delay, you must recognize that the Korean United Methodist Church and Institute has been under the control of the spiritually-dead clergies and criminals who are filled with demons, falsehoods, hatreds, and deception. It does appear to be a moral crisis of the Korean Church, the NY Annual Conference, and, perhaps, the United Methodist denomination.

I am praying for your spiritual victory in good faith and for the renewal of our historic church. The Book of Discipline guarantees open meetings and free speech. Why can’t we have an open debate for the renewal at the church or a public media? The congregation wants your spiritual leadership as the bishop of the NY Annual Conference as well as the top church leader of the Korean immigrant Christian community.

Please let me remind your office that it is my duty and mission to continuously protect the church’s common interests, according to the church’s rules and the Christian teachings. That is my only way to seek justice and to restore our family name as I have learned from the church throughout my life.
Alas! The church is spiritually, morally broken as it is now.

Sincerely yours in Christ,

Chae S. Sone and family

Please forward the e-mail petition to:
Reverend Jeremiah J. Park, Bishop
New York Annual Conference
White Plains, New York
e-mail address: Bishop@nyac.com

Reverend Chul Woo Chang
e-mail address: chang.kumci@gmail.com

Forward to our distinctuished spiritual leaders:

Media@RickWarrenNews.com
UMC: newsdesk@umcom.org.
NCC

Grassley, Chuck (R)
chuck_grassley@grassley.senate.gov
Charles Schumer (D)
senator@schumer.senate.gov
Hillary Clinton (D)
senator@clinton.senate.gov
democraticparty@democrats.org democraticparty@democrats.org Obamainfo@friendsofmccain.com

Let us pray for the Bishop to do His will accordingly. Especially it is a wakeup call for Korean Christian community – It is a cyber age.

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Aug 31, 2008 - 8:59 pm 79. Believer:

Uncle Jimbo at

http://www.blackfive.net

offers another take on Palin’s national security knowledge…

Aug 31, 2008 - 10:03 pm 80. chae s. sone:

The corrective majors are long over due or just ignored by the leaders.

From:Revgommer@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:22 PM
To: Bishop@nyac.com;chang.kmci@gmail.com. csone@optonline.net
Subject: Building Funds Questions – Korean Church

Dear Bishop:

This all sounds as though the leadership of our church has handled a “difficult situation” in a poor way. Are these matters of injustice in the claims of those who cry out about the fraudulent use of building funds and trust funds of the Korean Church in New York? Real leaders not only do things right… but in the critical points of decision making…do the right thing. What is the “right thing” in his matter? It is an embarrassment to the whole community of faith.

Chuck Gummer
Former District Superintendent
Former Wyoming Conference Executive
Wyoming Confeence
‘revgommer@aol.com’

Dear Brother in Christ Bishop Jeremiah J. Park,
I have received this petition which is addressed to you and only calls for an investigation and justice. If the accusations are true, the situation deserves a resolution. No one should be victimized - especially not by their own church. I don’t know the situation, do not know if any of the accusations are remotely true, but have witnessed similar cases. An impartial investigation could bring interesting unknown facts to your attention.
GOD bless you!
Rev. Dr. Alexander Hast

Sep 30, 2008 - 2:33 pm

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