Comments on: Curt Weldon: The Congressman Who Came In from the Cold http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/ Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:26:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: mrs panstreppvn@hotmail.com http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-62171 mrs panstreppvn@hotmail.com Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:14:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-62171 Weldon and his crony, John J. Gallagher, were doing business in Russia, period. In 11/06, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported that Weldon helped Gallagher land a DoE contract to re-train Russian nuclear scientists. The problem: Gallagher's company existed only on paper and Weldvn knew it. The original Able Danger team was spying on the president and the vice-president of the United States and were looking to link Clinton and Gore with Chinese money at Weldon's request. That's why the Pentagon shut the program down. No one seems to remember that Weldon spoke publicly about Able Danger finding links between Gore and Chinese government. When Weldon revived the Able Danger issue, he was probably working on behalf of a defense contractor looking for a data mining contract. I know he had recently met with Rand before he gave his Able Danger speech on the House floor. Weldon never did anything for anyone without a payoff. Weldon and his crony, John J. Gallagher, were doing business in Russia, period.

In 11/06, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported that Weldon helped Gallagher land a DoE contract to re-train Russian nuclear scientists. The problem: Gallagher’s company existed only on paper and Weldvn knew it.

The original Able Danger team was spying on the president and the vice-president of the United States and were looking to link Clinton and Gore with Chinese money at Weldon’s request. That’s why the Pentagon shut the program down.

No one seems to remember that Weldon spoke publicly about Able Danger finding links between Gore and Chinese government.

When Weldon revived the Able Danger issue, he was probably working on behalf of a defense contractor looking for a data mining contract. I know he had recently met with Rand before he gave his Able Danger speech on the House floor.

Weldon never did anything for anyone without a payoff.

]]> By: Rob http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-60679 Rob Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:46:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-60679 Able Danger always is worth another look. Able Danger appears to have identified some of the 9/11 plotters before hand. It appears that a very effective anti-terror program was shut down and that covered up by the DC establishment; Congress, media, CIA so on. This gives a glimpse of the hidden factions and power centers that we are not normally allowed to see. Walden exposed the wipe-out of the Able Danger program and then was thrown out of office by a sudden scandal just before the election. All this is a little too pat. Remember the Russians have the best spys in the world. Able Danger may have been the best tool for uncovering spys. Check out Able Danger and keep looking. Able Danger always is worth another look. Able Danger appears to have identified some of the 9/11 plotters before hand. It appears that a very effective anti-terror program was shut down and that covered up by the DC establishment; Congress, media, CIA so on. This gives a glimpse of the hidden factions and power centers that we are not normally allowed to see. Walden exposed the wipe-out of the Able Danger program and then was thrown out of office by a sudden scandal just before the election.

All this is a little too pat.

Remember the Russians have the best spys in the world. Able Danger may have been the best tool for uncovering spys.

Check out Able Danger and keep looking.

]]> By: Rationalitate http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-60467 Rationalitate Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:14:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-60467 While McCain might be the only candidate who understands Russia's depravity of leadership, his solutions are all wrong. Russia lately has pursued a savvy policy of funding Islamic terrorism (<a href="http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2008/04/mailbag-russia-and-911.html" rel="nofollow">Ayman al-Zawahiri</a>) and rogue regimes (<a href="http://rationalitate.blogspot.com/2008/05/price-of-oil-jumps-putin-grins.html" rel="nofollow">Venezuela</a> and Iran), all the while egging the US on (<a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/09/10/ar911.russia.putin/" rel="nofollow">in the broader war on terror</a>, and <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06/18/russia.warning/index.html" rel="nofollow">in the Iraq war</a>) in order to goad the US into stirring up trouble in oil- and gas-producing countries, so as to raise the price of energy commodities which Russia so desperately depends on. In this way, even though McCain might best understand how evil Putin and his cronies are, he will fall right into the trap and further Putin's goals better than any of the other candidates could. You're great at the investigative stuff, and you're witty, Kim, but your inability to conceive of a Russia that is heir to the most masterful spies in the world is troubling. Of course you say you understand, but you seriously underestimate the importance of Russia's role in global terror, and what it's trying to get out of it. It's provocation, and you – the best English-language blogger on Russia I know – are falling for it! While McCain might be the only candidate who understands Russia’s depravity of leadership, his solutions are all wrong. Russia lately has pursued a savvy policy of funding Islamic terrorism (Ayman al-Zawahiri) and rogue regimes (Venezuela and Iran), all the while egging the US on (in the broader war on terror, and in the Iraq war) in order to goad the US into stirring up trouble in oil- and gas-producing countries, so as to raise the price of energy commodities which Russia so desperately depends on. In this way, even though McCain might best understand how evil Putin and his cronies are, he will fall right into the trap and further Putin’s goals better than any of the other candidates could.

You’re great at the investigative stuff, and you’re witty, Kim, but your inability to conceive of a Russia that is heir to the most masterful spies in the world is troubling. Of course you say you understand, but you seriously underestimate the importance of Russia’s role in global terror, and what it’s trying to get out of it. It’s provocation, and you – the best English-language blogger on Russia I know – are falling for it!

]]> By: Kimterminator http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-60465 Kimterminator Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:38:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-60465 In the Stalin time in the USSR any contact of a Russian citizen with a foreign party could be a case for the charge in spying or treason. Kim Zigfeld, a notorious russophobic "writer", has that Stalin's KGB attitude towards anything that can be linked to Russia. What was wrong that Weldon exactly did? Tried to establish a better control over Russian WMD sites? Tried to secure WMD non-proliferation? He recieved money from Russians? For what? Was that for selling sensitive information about the USA or for doing business with Russian companies? Doing business, promoting business interests and even lobbying are not crimes. Walton remains under investigation, he has not yet been charged. He may come out a decent person, a good American. Do not rush into accusations. There is Innocence presume after all. In the Stalin time in the USSR any contact of a Russian citizen with a foreign party could be a case for the charge in spying or treason.

Kim Zigfeld, a notorious russophobic “writer”, has that Stalin’s KGB attitude towards anything that can be linked to Russia.

What was wrong that Weldon exactly did? Tried to establish a better control over Russian WMD sites? Tried to secure WMD non-proliferation? He recieved money from Russians? For what? Was that for selling sensitive information about the USA or for doing business with Russian companies? Doing business, promoting business interests and even lobbying are not crimes.

Walton remains under investigation, he has not yet been charged. He may come out a decent person, a good American.
Do not rush into accusations. There is Innocence presume after all.

]]> By: EdGi http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-60418 EdGi Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:55:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-60418 Weldon, whom I know from various good things, may have goofed on the Russian involvement, and I agree totally that he should have known that he cannot, in Delaware County, get away with the tricks Philly Democrats do, but indicting a jaywalker as a defacto capital offense criminal is self destructive in a democracy. Also, in fairness to Gorelich, she only combined then existing hodgepodge procedures. She did not write the bad laws involved. Able Danger went astray, apparently, by following the Chinese connections, for which they had no charter under the then existing intelligence laws, which forced the DOD, under the then existing laws, to destroy materials. Bashing Gorelich does not change dangerously bad laws. Weldon, whom I know from various good things, may have goofed on the Russian involvement, and I agree totally that he should have known that he cannot, in Delaware County, get away with the tricks Philly Democrats do, but indicting a jaywalker as a defacto capital offense criminal is self destructive in a democracy. Also, in fairness to Gorelich, she only combined then existing hodgepodge procedures. She did not write the bad laws involved. Able Danger went astray, apparently, by following the Chinese connections, for which they had no charter under the then existing intelligence laws, which forced the DOD, under the then existing laws, to destroy materials. Bashing Gorelich does not change dangerously bad laws.

]]> By: Rubicon http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-59889 Rubicon Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:40:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-59889 Sandra.. you are correct that Able Danger was a gold mine of info & its demise hurt America substantially. I cannot agree about PA voters as we continue to elect the likes of Specter & some others. Seems to me, some in the political arena have mastered the hide their own activities game, while gathering well placed allies to create the impressions of misdeeds among their political opponents. You guess who is best at dirty deeds! Sandra.. you are correct that Able Danger was a gold mine of info & its demise hurt America substantially. I cannot agree about PA voters as we continue to elect the likes of Specter & some others.
Seems to me, some in the political arena have mastered the hide their own activities game, while gathering well placed allies to create the impressions of misdeeds among their political opponents.
You guess who is best at dirty deeds!

]]> By: Sandra M http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-59371 Sandra M Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:00:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-59371 The 911 Commission, and certain elements in the FBI and CIA feared and hated Curt Weldon and conspired to bring him down. The CIA didn't want the ABLE DANGER data mining program to succeed because it would have "stolen their thunder". Look up ABLE DANGER, MOHAMMED ATTA, and Jamie Gorelick of the 9/11 Coimmission, the very person responsible for the FBI and CIA not sharing information (she was an assistant or deputy AG undere Clinton) then sitting in judgment on what went wrong on 9/11. What a mess! Good people's careers were ruined by CYA Democrats, RINOs and bureaucrats. Lt. Col. Shaffer, Philpott and others over Able Danger. Alas, Weldon saw most Democrats and even Republicans around him getting rich by funnelling earmark money to wives (Obama's million dollar earmark to a hospital tripled his wife's salary at that hospital) husbands, , et al and thought he could do the same for his daughter. But Republican voters, especially in Pennsylvania, won't put up with that kind of corruption. Alas, once he lost the election his website with priceless information and links on Able Danger has been taken down, but there is still a lot of information on Wikipedia and elsewhere (just google ABLE DANGER). As to Russia, they had been our friends through the 90's and it is thanks to Clinton's urging of a Forgive and Forget policy towards the communists that they have wrested control once more. Bush was naive towards Putin but so was the press and it remains so till this day. When Putin remained on vacation and allowed 100 or more submariners to die rather than allow Americans to rescue them, then I knew who and what he was. Weldon is a patriot and would never have willingly spied for the Russians.. The work he did against the Jihad was very effective, perhaps too much so (made others look bad ) and that was his downfall. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but having gained an insight into the CIA from the book CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR I noted that the CIA heroes responsible for winning that war, Gust Avrakotos and Michael Vickers were not promoted and left while others who came later got the promotions and the kudos. That's the way of bureaucracy way too often. This story needs further study. The 911 Commission, and certain elements in the FBI and CIA feared and hated Curt Weldon and conspired to bring him down. The CIA didn’t want the ABLE DANGER data mining program to succeed because it would have “stolen their thunder”.

Look up ABLE DANGER, MOHAMMED ATTA, and Jamie Gorelick of the 9/11 Coimmission, the very person responsible for the FBI and CIA not sharing information (she was an assistant or deputy AG undere Clinton) then sitting in judgment on what went wrong on 9/11.

What a mess!

Good people’s careers were ruined by CYA Democrats, RINOs and bureaucrats. Lt. Col. Shaffer, Philpott and others over Able Danger.

Alas, Weldon saw most Democrats and even Republicans around him getting rich by funnelling earmark money to wives (Obama’s million dollar earmark to a hospital tripled his wife’s salary at that hospital) husbands, , et al and thought he could do the same for his daughter. But Republican voters, especially in Pennsylvania, won’t put up with that kind of corruption.

Alas, once he lost the election his website with priceless information and links on Able Danger has been taken down, but there is still a lot of information on Wikipedia and elsewhere (just google ABLE DANGER).

As to Russia, they had been our friends through the 90’s and it is thanks to Clinton’s urging of a Forgive and Forget policy towards the communists that they have wrested control once more. Bush was naive towards Putin but so was the press and it remains so till this day. When Putin remained on vacation and allowed 100 or more submariners to die rather than allow Americans to rescue them, then I knew who and what he was.

Weldon is a patriot and would never have willingly spied for the Russians.. The work he did against the Jihad was very effective, perhaps too much so (made others look bad ) and that was his downfall.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but having gained an insight into the CIA from the book CHARLIE WILSON’S WAR I noted that the CIA heroes responsible for winning that war, Gust Avrakotos and Michael Vickers were not promoted and left while others who came later got the promotions and the kudos. That’s the way of bureaucracy way too often.

This story needs further study.

]]> By: Sandra M http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-59341 Sandra M Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:21:13 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-59341 I became a fervent Curt Weldon supporter because of his work on "Able Danger", (google it) a superb data mining program which was totally destroyed by stupid or possibly traitorous bureaucrats. Curt Weldon did what almost ALL democrats do and get away with (Obama (a million dollar earmark for the hospital his wife worked at tripled her salary) (Feinstein's husband's educational and then military supply businesses profited from her earmarks) (William Jefferson, ($90,000 in the freezer) because their constituencies don't care how much they steal so long as they get some crumbs from the table. Republican voters won't allow Republican representatives to get away with that kind of graft. Weldon should have known better. Weldon is no traitor. When he was doing business with the Russians they were still considered friends of ours. Google ABLE DANGER. Losing that program was a major blow to us in the war on terror. I became a fervent Curt Weldon supporter because of his work on “Able Danger”, (google it) a superb data mining program which was totally destroyed by stupid or possibly traitorous bureaucrats.

Curt Weldon did what almost ALL democrats do and get away with (Obama (a million dollar earmark for the hospital his wife worked at tripled her salary) (Feinstein’s husband’s educational and then military supply businesses profited from her earmarks) (William Jefferson, ($90,000 in the freezer) because their constituencies don’t care how much they steal so long as they get some crumbs from the table.

Republican voters won’t allow Republican representatives to get away with that kind of graft. Weldon should have known better.

Weldon is no traitor. When he was doing business with the Russians they were still considered friends of ours.

Google ABLE DANGER. Losing that program was a major blow to us in the war on terror.

]]> By: Curt Weldon: The Congressman Who Came In from the Cold http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-59158 Curt Weldon: The Congressman Who Came In from the Cold Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/curt-weldon-the-congressman-who-came-in-from-the-cold/#comment-59158 [...] Darren Murph wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptWas Pennsylvania’s former Congressman — knowingly or unknowingly — spying for the Kremlin? [...] [...] Darren Murph wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptWas Pennsylvania’s former Congressman — knowingly or unknowingly — spying for the Kremlin? [...]

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