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1. Rotwang:

I’m no fan of Code Pink, but God bless them for interrupting that monster’s speech and letting the world see dissent dragged out of the Republican Convention.

And God Bless that Vet with the “You Can’t Win an Occupation” sign.

As near as I can tell, those were the only two real human beings in a hall filled with soulless androids.

Sep 4, 2008 - 9:22 pm 2. DrWyrm:

You stay classy, Code Pink.

Sep 4, 2008 - 9:23 pm 3. romeobravo:

Hey Rot:

Just think what PRO Iraq victory soldiers would have been greeted with at the Democrat Convention if they stood up and spoke out during BO’s speech? Polite applause? No, not on your life. They would be denounced as “fascist monsters.” Dissent has a place on the streets of St. Paul, not in a private meeting. And look at the destruction caused by your lovely “dissenters” in the streets? LIke breaking windows at Macy’s. Can you tell me what kind of free speech that is?

Sep 4, 2008 - 10:13 pm 4. BobDog:

Rotwang:

When last I checked, we WERE winning the “occupation” (if you insist on calling the handover of hard won territory to an independent, democratic and sovereign nation “occupation”). I don’t know if you noticed but Anbar was just handed over to IA control (during the DNC convention no less).

I agree with you on one issue however: as long as Code Pink (& moveon.org, kos, etc.) continue to hijack the Democratic Party in plain sight, the less and less likely it is that this country will ever elect one of its candidates. So God Bless Code Pink indeed.

Sep 4, 2008 - 10:15 pm 5. Anthony (Los Angeles):

Rotwang, do you get a government subsidy for all that Kool-Aid you’re drinking?

Sep 4, 2008 - 10:57 pm 6. JD:

Both were idiots and I might add Rotwang I think I’d prefer the company of those soulless androids over a tool such as yourself.

Sep 4, 2008 - 11:28 pm 7. Evil Pundit:

How do they keep getting in? Is there no security at the convention?

Sep 4, 2008 - 11:39 pm 8. Rachel Peepers:

Rotgut,

Your egregious language speaks volumes about a personality type so warped, weird and hate-filled that your absent powers of critical thinking makes you a candidate for gold membership into the super secret Witless Protection Program.

I read profiles like yours every day.

In your disturbed, rational-challenged pathetic, paranoid, pathogenic-world, you sadly mistake Nazi, brown-shirt style anarchy for dissent.

Dollars to donuts, you think 9/11 was an inside job and have a harddrive full of pitiful pornographic literature.

It’s oxygen-starved-at-birth pukes like youself who, frankly, don’t deserve to live in a country where heroes die so worms can crawl out from under rocks and spew garbage from their Godless filthy mouths.

No, I’m not through with you yet.

Say this nation were attacked and at peril and needed your help to defend the freedoms you so obviously don’t understand.

I am 100% sure that the lily livered, venal, vacuous creature that you are wouldn’t fight to defend America even if your poor mother’s life depended on it.

What’ll you do when your boy, Obama, gets his butt kicked by the monsters you call Sarah Palin and John McCain?

In that case, your only hope might be a team of seven to ten brilliant Austrian psychiatrists
24/7 thinking only about you.

Sep 5, 2008 - 12:00 am 9. Kirk:

“”"…in a hall filled with soulless androids.”"”

The first thing leftist fascists do is dehumanize the opposition. Once done, you can do anything to them without an uproar. How many mass graves would they fill if they had complete power over their opposition?

Sep 5, 2008 - 12:06 am 10. Dave II:

Yep. Nothing like “static” from an Obama supporter to make the case for why we need McCain. And right there on national TV in front of tens of millions of viewers. Real smart.

And that goes for you too, Rotwang, on PJM.

Obama can be so proud of his supporters!

Sep 5, 2008 - 12:41 am 11. Don:

It’s very funny when people like Rotwang reveal themselves, of course they spout strictly party line commentary, since they have no thought , nor free will they have no comments of their own to espouse. What the Party, the Union, or their peer group tells them is fact is good enough (too much work to have to think or decide for oneself). There, there Rotwang, your betters will always make sure you don’t have to think, and if you fail at anything? It’s not your fault (and definitely not the Party’s) those bad Republicans, white people, christians, or cultural racists made it impossible for you.

And please, don’t work so hard, you make everybody else look bad!!

Sep 5, 2008 - 4:30 am 12. Barb:

Hmmmm Rotwang, why does that name say it all?

Sep 5, 2008 - 4:45 am 13. Wayne:

Kirk,
I hope that you realize that “leftist fascists” is redundant. Fascism is and has always been a political/economic philosophy of the left, derived from Marx. Other than that, I agree with your comment that fascists use dehumanization of their opposition as a means to justify any subsequent actions they want to undertake.

Sep 5, 2008 - 5:02 am 14. Bill Nance:

I’m an Obama supporter, and I thought the only thing the demonstrators “demonstrated” was their own idiocy.
I’ve written on this subject before and my opinion hasn’t changed.

These fools just want to get on TV and show Republicans people don’t like them. -as if the people at the speech weren’t aware the lunatic fringe of the left wasn’t in agreement with them. Ha!

It’s also bloody bad manners and only demonstrates the hypocrisy of of the far left, just as the Republican lack of drying about Bristol demonstrates the hypocrisy of the far right.the lunatic fringe on the left talks abotu free speech, then prevents it when it disagrees with them. The lunatic fringe on the right savages Democrats over “family values” and then acts as though Sarah Palin is some paragon of good motherhood BECAUSE her daughter is pregnant.

There is a middle in this country. That middle represents the vast majority of the population, and rejects both extremes of ideology if given an opportunity. It’s time for the rest of us to stand up and decry the tactics of the peacenik “war is bad ummkay” crowd AND the kind of rhetoric that paints anyone in disagreement with the RNC as unamerican, surrender monkeys or cowards, The polarization in this country reached the point of absurdity some years ago. The only ones who win with this nonsense are talk-radio hosts and political operators. The real losers are the American public, and we ALL deserve better.

Sep 5, 2008 - 5:59 am 15. deguello:

Rotwang: or is it rotbrain? The Code pink rabbledemonstrates that a liberal is just a stalinist in disguise.As for you,well,let’s just say it was a mistake to close the mental hospitals and let the inmates out .

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:16 am 16. T.M. Whitworth:

Yes, it is true Stalin wore pink!

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:29 am 17. ex-democrat:

bill nance - it says a lot that all an Obama supporter has to do is actually denounce its fascist wing for me to have the urge to say ‘thankyou.’
and what it says - upon further reflection - is that normal decent people are the exception on your side of the aisle.

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:35 am 18. L.Carlin:

Rachel: Bravo!

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:37 am 19. Larry J:

I’m an Obama supporter, and I thought the only thing the demonstrators “demonstrated” was their own idiocy.
I’ve written on this subject before and my opinion hasn’t changed.

These fools just want to get on TV and show Republicans people don’t like them. -as if the people at the speech weren’t aware the lunatic fringe of the left wasn’t in agreement with them. Ha!

I agree. I’ve heard sportscasters say they don’t show those idiots who run onto the field during games because they don’t want to encourage others to do the same stupid thing. Perhaps the news media should do the same thing to protestors - don’t show them.

Protestors have the same freedom of speech as anyone else. They don’t have the right to deny others their freedom of speech. It’s like the old saying (cliche), “Your right to swing your arm ends at my nose.”

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:49 am 20. jay:

I am so tire of the crap from Javelin, Rottonwanghead, Bill Bradely and some others that I just scroll past their posts because they are only here to provoke arguments. Their minds are closed to any ideas; they are blind to all things that do not fit into their way of thinking. To argue with them is like “casting pearls before swine”.

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:10 am 21. Ardsgaine:

“You can’t win an occupation.”

I’m glad Abraham Lincoln didn’t know that…

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:11 am 22. R Beckey:

Bill Nance, to be for Obama and then to compare youself to the “middle” is like being a Pat Bucannan supporter and calling yourself a middle of america American. While everyone has a right to their views they don’t have a right to disrupt other peoples peaceful organizations. Destroying property or treating others rudely etc. is not right any time.

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:12 am 23. Roy:

The Code Pink group always reminds me of a genetic experiment that has gone awry.

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:37 am 24. Saltherring:

Agreed, R Beckey, regarding Bill Nance’s support for Obama. Sen. Obama represents the extreme left of America, rendering anyone who supports him an extremist or a fool. Which are you?

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:47 am 25. dick:

Rotwang:

“You can’t win an occupation”?

First: history is full of examples of occupations being won. Since I’m English: let me cite the Roman occupation of Britain as an example. “Occupation” has been, alongside trade, the primary way that successive waves of civilization have spread across the world.

Second: the US presence in Iraq isn’t an occupation.

Apparently, in your world, “soulless android” denotes an ability to think, rather than to blather meaninglessly.

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:58 am 26. Kenny Cannon:

The more foolish they look (all of them) the better it is for us. Let them keep doing those things. Let them make fools out of themselves, because that’s what they are…FOOLS!

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:02 am 27. Bugs:

‘“You can’t win an occupation.”
I’m glad Abraham Lincoln didn’t know that…’

Ha! Or Eisenhower or MacArthur. Or Duke William of Normandy, if you want to go back that far.

Leftist cant aside, occupations are like any other military/political undertaking: sometimes they succeed, sometimes they fail. Unfortunately, most left/progressives are (as frequently noted) stuck in Vietnam. For them, the Vietnam war was THE war, and the so-called “lessons” of Vietnam apply to all wars everywhere. That they were proved “right” by that war’s outcome evidently leads them to believe they can never be wrong about any other war. Now, more than anything else, they want to be right about Iraq, too. For that to happen, the United States must lose the war.

But Code Pink itself is a sideshow.Tossing them out of conventions is what serious people do.

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:05 am 28. Bugs:

“You can’t win an occupation.”

On second thought, that slogan might be true if you apply it only to Russia.

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:08 am 29. Clyde:

I was hoping that McCain had a prepared response to the protesters. Surely they knew it was inevitable. If he would have said something like…”Isn’t this free country great. Many of us here tonight had family and friends die for her right to speak freely. If she were in Iran or China right now she would be off for “re-education” or to have her tongue cutout. People in Iraq and Afghanistan can now freely speak out like she just did without reprisals”.

I think that would have brought down the house!

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:32 am 30. ArcherB:

I remember reading how they had code pink types in the 1930’s. Except they didn’t wear pink, they wore BROWN SHIRTS!

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:40 am 31. schnargley:

Rotwang,
I am no Code Pink fan either, but, like dude, like they really rock with messing with these braindead, idiot facsist’ brains by speaking up for free speech and all. I mean like, when Adolph Bush and the Repukelicans deprive the Gitmo freedom fighters of their free speech and stuff, why can’t we deprive them of their free speech, so maybe they’ll learn a lesson and let the Gitmo freedom fighters go home so they can fight for freedom in their Arab countries? You go girls!(and you transgender members too!)Gosh, man, why is it that only people like you and me got brains, man?

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:52 am 32. JB:

I’d like to see an enterprising blogger track down their names, but more importantly their sponsors. What organization invited them? Were they aware of their purpose? How could they not be?

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:57 am 33. Cletus:

Shnargley, I gotta hand it to you man you are a damn good troll

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:44 am 34. Skyraider:

Rotwang wrote:

“..God bless them for interrupting that monster’s speech…”
Free speech is only for those you agree with, eh? Yours is a typical brownshirt attitude.

“And God Bless that Vet with the “You Can’t Win an Occupation” sign.

Yeah, tell that to the Germans and the Japanese.

Clueless, thy name is Rotwang.

schnargley, for all your the hue and cry are you willing to let one of those “freedom fighters” stay at your place while their appeals work their waty through the courts?

Have a nice day.

Sep 5, 2008 - 12:01 pm 35. W::

I mean seriously…do you ever see Republicans hiding out in the Demo convention to disrupt their speeches? No, they’d think it was rude, and disrespecttful. And it would be.

Code Pink and other weirdos do it because they don’t care about anyone else’s right to speak.

Sep 5, 2008 - 12:17 pm 36. Fred from Canuckistan . . .:

maybe some one should tell the code pink nutters to put their drawers on the right way round.

That way they wouldn’t have such a knickers twisted warped view on the world.

Must hurt to hate so much.

Sep 5, 2008 - 1:02 pm 37. Freedom's just another word..:

These people protesting the Republican (war and violence) are resorting to violence, the thing they supposedly stand against.

One of the news outlets interviewed some of the protest participants. The news outlet showed them some pictures of important politicians. The participants interviewed did not have a clue who the pictures were of. I think most of the protestors are just ignorant thugs who are looking for a “cause”, no matter what it is.

Obviosly, these are pro-Obama supporters. Obama is for peaceable resolutions to our foreign affairs. Yet, Obama has yet to just ask these protesters to stop their violence. While he is not “in control” of the protestors, he could be making a great point of the power of his word, and prove to all Americans that he can diffuse a violent situation.

Perhaps Obama’s silence with the protesters are like his “present” vote. Silent support.

Sep 5, 2008 - 2:12 pm 38. Rubicon:

It always amazes me how free speech is important, just as civil rights are important, when it comes to, “the left.”
BUT, if it means people “on the right,” or conservative, or Republican, or (dare I say it?) Christian, well that’s a horse of a different color.
Then, its perfectly OK to disrupt, condemn, curse, lie. and create an all around deflection to hide the agenda of those who supposedly champion free speech.
Democrats want to reimpose the so called
“Fairness Doctrine.” Yet anything about it has nothing to do with fairness. Even John Kennedy admitted he used it to silence his opposition.
The left wants us to embrace speech restrictions so we do not offend others. Yet they are as & more offensive than anyone I have heard from “the right.
Even Rush & O’Reilly use decent language & they do not attack people as liars, thieves cheats, etc.
Have you ever heard Olbermann? His vitriolic comments that reflect good ONLY on Democrats or the far left, are an example of the kind of world these people would create.
Code Pink thinks using violence to silence those who politically oppose them is appropriate. They seem to think those we are fighting will stand up for them if they were to ever win. Code Pink & much of “the left” would be the targets of the Islamic fascists who want to take over the world. And, I do not even want to think what they would do to women. Suffice it to say the feminists now attacking Sarah Palin will not look good in burqua’s. They will look even worse after the stoning’s!
Think I exaggerate? Ask Afghan women if they thought the Taliban would ever have been able to force onto Afghanistan what the Taliban did!
They all say, “we never really believed it would happen to us!”
Ever hear that one before folks? I have, and the results were NOT pretty!
The left has gone off the deep end because their hatred of anyone who does not totally agree with them, causes them to become irrational. Their methods are despicable & those who finance them are merely using useful idiots who they will discard once they have the power they seek! (Soros anyone??)

Sep 5, 2008 - 4:29 pm 39. Roderick Reilly:

So the guy with the sign was a vet?

Yeah, yeah. Here’s the pattern with the “vets” who oppose the war (whichever war): they’re the motor pool guys, not the front-line grunts.

Sep 5, 2008 - 4:39 pm 40. 888:

The rent-a-crowd (who couldn’t even identify famous politicians, including famous liberal pols) were paid off, just like that retired General who couldn’t defend Obama when grilled by Meghan of Fox News.

Sep 5, 2008 - 4:41 pm 41. RossA:

My wife and I were watching McCain’s speech on two different channels: NBC and FoxNews (don’t ask why) while listening to the NBC feed. My point is that while FoxNews avoided showing the Code Pink nutcases, NBC showed both of them.

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:27 pm 42. ThomasJ:

I decided to quit responding to those like rotwang. What’s the point of arguing with someone with a mental disorder?? Why waste your time??

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:35 pm 43. shandee:

Bill Nance I don’t understand why a person who believes and teaches family values can’t have a daughter who makes a mistake? Isn’t it just a guideline? You can only hope your kids will take the things you teach them into adulthood. Why is that so far right?

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:53 pm 44. Bill Nance:

Shandee: I have never condemned Bristol Palin, nor her mother on the pregnancy issue. What I condemn is the utter hypocrisy of the Christianist lunatics who are holding her out as a paragon of virtue because of her daughter’s pregnancy. For more specifics, read here and here.
I have a 21 year-old daughter. If she had become pregnant at 17 I’d be doing the same thing as Palin. Standing by my kid. My comment wasn’t about Palin, it was about hypocrisy. Honesty is calling it when you see it, not just when it’s done by the “other side.” Note my blasting the left-fringe wackos, which I’ve done repeatedly on my site, as well as calling BS on “liberal” bloggers.

It’s about integrity, not ideology.

Sep 5, 2008 - 10:34 pm 45. William of Orange:

I thought the polite indifference with which John McCain handled these wing nuts was marvelous. The affable smile and patient waiting for the events to run their course spoke volumes about the classiness of the guy (and by association) the assembled masses.

As I recall, it was the evil Karl Rove who came up with the idea of chanting “U.S.A.! U.S.A..!” during similar outbreaks in 2004 convention, was it not?

Now you want to talk troubling, I have an 80-year-old mother who lives in San Francisco, is a member of Code Pink, loves Obama, and went on a couple of those take-off-all-your-clothes-to-end-an-unjust-war demonstrations they held a couple of years ago..

..I have sought professional help and my therapist says I should be o.k., thank you for asking.

Sep 7, 2008 - 1:36 am 46. schnargley:

william of orange,
That is wonderful about your mother!! Does she appear on the reactionary Zombietime’s Hall of Fame list? Does she know the old guy with the scrotum-inflator? This is so exciting! Tell her hello from me and Pwoer To The People!!

You’re almost a celebrity!!!!

Sep 8, 2008 - 6:56 am 47. Ty 1984:

Like “good” Communists, they do not support the freedoms of those whose political philosophies vary from their own - democracy…for some. Their goal (whatever lunacy it might be) is to be achieved at any cost - whatever means to an end.

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:51 pm 48. Jeff:

To those of you who have family, friends, or relatives in the Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is imperative that I mention these facts below to you. I welcome you all to do your own research on this or Google it.

For a man to be an ex POW in Vietnam who has endured so much torture and punishment and who promotes “Country First” on his campaign, his history should lead him to do better for his fellow men and women in the Armed Forces but here are the FACTS below —

1) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of more spending for the protection of our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
2) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of deploying more armor and artillery for our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
3) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation and more medical benefits to our injured troops returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
4) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation to our veterans of all the past wars, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.

Please look over these FACTS and do your own research. For a man to promote character, wisdom, and the love for his country; the facts don’t coincide with this man.

This Election 2008 is a colorless election. It is about two human beings that want to lead our country, either in the right direction or in the wrong direction. We have lived the wrong direction for 8 years and have been in the wrong side of history throughout that time. Do we want to live it again?

Sep 12, 2008 - 9:50 pm 49. 888:

I see what you’re doing, Jeff — going on different blogs and saying the same thing over & over. Well, guess what? I’ll respond to your ill-informed non-sense that same way, too: The reason McCain did not/does not support the latest iteration of the GI Bill is because it allows for military members to get full scholarship and other benefits after only serving 3 years in the military. This version also allows for those 3 years to be in non-combat billets, meaning that a 3-year desk job in South Dakota or Virginia can get a serviceman or woman a full scholarship without even having been in combat. This Bill is not only costly, but it also encourages military members to get out after only 3 years service. It is a great inducement by the liberals in Congress to gain the favors of the young veterans, but it is an unfair proposal. My father served 20 years in the Navy, including on a patrol boat on the dangerous Mekong Delta during Vietnam. He’s 100% disabled from his service in the military and from having been sprayed all over his body with Agent Orange. He deserved his GI Bill, which he used to go to school after he retired. Webb’s GI Bill is not fair to those like my father and others who actually served, or are serving, in combat. That’s why McCain didn’t support the latest GI Bill. Get your facts straight before you try to discredit the honorable veteran.

Sep 13, 2008 - 5:58 am

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