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1. Marc Malone:

The left are never going to institute any reforms, other than amnesties. More hispanics means more Democrats. Just buy their votes to keep yourself in power. The hispanics come from corrupt societies. They know how it works. See Clinton pardons for reference.

The Pubs will never see power again… and don’t even realize it. We are doomed to forever be the minority party… and possibly inconsequential, eventually. We are on our way to one-party rule.

Jan 18, 2009 - 1:57 am 2. David Thomson:

“Then some of them lost focus and veered off into more controversial territory by declaring English the national language, threatening to deny citizenship to the U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants, and targeting churches and social service agencies that aid illegal immigrants.”

And why is the attempt to make English the national language deemed “controversial?” This is an entirely sensible goal. I am convinced that the founding fathers never in their wildest imagination envisioned “anchor babies.” The very concept would have been considered bizarre in the late 18th Century. Ruben Naverrette also conveniently ignores the fact that many of these churches and social service agencies actively encourage illegal immigrants to break the law. They are not merely providing food and temporary shelter to desperate people.

“just as conservatives never miss a chance to weaken employer sanctions opposed by big business.”

The author is confusing country club Republicans with conservatives. The vast majority of GOP voters believe in employer sanctions and are enraged at efforts by some companies to weaken them.

Jan 18, 2009 - 3:45 am 3. paparay:

“Who is John Galt?”

Jan 18, 2009 - 4:56 am 4. Vaughn:

I say for each Hispanic we take in, one Muslim needs to be deported. The gangs may kill each other, and I’m OK with that, but the ‘towels’ want us all dead.

Jan 18, 2009 - 5:03 am 5. Carl D. Kaminer:

David Thomson…

You ask:
And why is the attempt to make English the national language deemed “controversial?”

The point of the article was that some proposals by the Republicans were politically divisive to the point that their chances of passage were doomed. ALL immigration proposals are controversial to a degree, but some will never receive widespread support. That is the political reality.

Personally, I’d like to see an immigration bill that truly strengthens border security. It’s quite possible that the next terrorist attack will come from terroists who have entered our country through it’s pourous borders. I don’t care if they speak Spanish, English, or Swahili; I only care that they managed to get inside our borders.

Jan 18, 2009 - 5:43 am 6. Benson:

It seems to me that Ruben revises his ideology each time he sits down at the keyboard. If memory serves — and it might not — this essay contrasts sharply with some of his earlier rants, which struck me at the time as downright goofy. He seems to be learning as he goes. Correct me if I’m wrong, please.

Jan 18, 2009 - 5:52 am 7. RW:

Don’t recall the English as national language issue ever being wrapped up with Shamnesty. But I remember calling Senators including my own and really taking it to them. In NJ one is the leader of the Shamnesty cause. The attempt to confuse, obfuscate and exploit the constituents was first and foremost. And anyone who saw how they tried to ram this down our throats without any debate any committee review knows that.

It was done repeatedly.

We must rise up, again. And again where necessary.

They are attempting to turn this country into Yugoslavia. And they don’t need to do much more to finish the job. Giving amnesty to 20+ million illegals and their “families” will absolutely destroy the Republic.

But of course it will get certain people re-elected and that’s all that matters right?

Jan 18, 2009 - 6:33 am 8. Ruben Botello:

Nuevo Plan de Aztlan

WHEREAS, We the Chicanas y Chicanos of the United States of America honor our Native American heritage with all our hearts and minds;

WHEREAS, We the Chicanas y Chicanos of the United States of America honor the sacred call of our Native American ancestors for peace and justice throughout our Americas; and

WHEREAS, We the Chicanas y Chicanos of the United States of America recognize La Raza has been struggling with a new wave of racial harassment, discrimination and persecution in our Americas since September 11, 2001.

NOW THEREFORE, We the Chicanos y Chicanos of the United States of America resolve as follows:

SECTION 1. TITLE

This resolution may be cited as Nuevo Plan de Aztlan.

SECTION 2. TERMINOLOGY

Nuevo Plan de Aztlan is based on the following terms:

a) Americanas y Americanos

Americanas y Americanos are ALL AMERICANS regardless of our races, colors, languages, cultures, nationalities, ethnicities, religions or creeds.

b) Aztlan

The concept of Aztlan is derived from the Nahua history of the Mexicas before their southern migration from Norte America into Centro Mexico during the 11th Century. Aztlan today is Indigenas of Mexican-American and(or) Mexican descent who consider ourselves Chicanas y Chicanos regardless of where we were born, live or die.

c) Carnalismo

Carnalismo is the love and compassion Chicanas y Chicanos have for each other as carnalas y carnales (sisters and brothers). Carnalismo is what unites and strengthens Chicanas y Chicanos as we work together for peace and justice.

d) Chicanas y Chicanos

Chicanas y Chicanos are Indigenas of Mexican-American and(or) Mexican descent who consider ourselves Chicanas y Chicanos based on our Native American heritage.

e) El Movimiento

El Movimiento is the Chicana y Chicano Movement for peace and justice. El Movimiento is comprised of numerous academic, athletic, artistic, business, commercial, cultural, educational, political, recreational, social, spiritual, wholistic and other Chicana y Chicano organizations and individuals working for peace and justice throughout Aztlan, our Americas and the world.

f) Heritage

Our Native American heritage includes our ancestral lands and freedoms; and all the histories, cultures, traditions and mores of our Native American ancestors.

g) Indigenas

Often called Native Americans or American Indians, Indigenas are all the indigenous peoples of our Americas including those of mixed-race heritage like La Raza.

h) La Causa

La Causa is for peace and justice, the eternal cause of Chicanas y Chicanos who recognize there can be no true peace without true justice, i.e., the abolition of poverty, racism, sexism and all other injusticias in our Americas.

i) La Raza

Chicanas y Chicanos can be Black, White, Brown, Red, Yellow and(or) any other “skin color” like the rest of La Raza and the human race. The concept of La Raza was derived from a 1925 essay published by Jose Vasconcelos, a Mexican educator who called the millions of mixed-race Indigenas with Latin-American and(or) Latin-European ancestors La Raza Cosmica.

La Raza is comprised of every race, color, nationality, ethnicity, culture, language, religion and creed in the world. This rich diversity is the unifying power, force and strength of Chicanas y Chicanos, and of all La Raza as we grow to know, understand and honor our great heritage.

j) Latinas y Latinos

Latinas y Latinos of our Americas are Indigenas with a Latin-American and(or) Latin-European heritage. Millions of Latinas y Latinos also have African, Asian and other Non-Latino ancestors.

k) Racism

·Racial categories are crude labels based on parentage, genetics and(or) physical traits, not religious or scientific proof of one’s superior or inferior nature like racists believe.

·Racism is the belief one or more “races” are inherently “superior” to one or more other races. [Example: Many Americans believe “White people” are inherently superior to “Non-White people” and that “Black people” are inherently inferior to all other people.]

·Racism includes the belief “mixed-race” people like La Raza are inferior to those with birth parents of the same race. “Race-mixing” is still condemned by racists today. · Indigenas were considered savages (less-than-human) when Europeans first invaded and occupied our Americas. “Christianized” and(or) otherwise assimilated Indigenas are still considered inferior by today’s racists.

·Racists are not just poor or poorly educated citizens, there are wealthy and highly educated racists throughout government and society who strive to protect and preserve their privileged status via institutional, industrial and commercial racism. Racists are not just White, either; there are Brown, Black, Red, Asian and other racists, too.

·The racist imposition of the colonial English language on Indigenas continues to cause horrendous problems for Chicanas y Chicanos in education, employment and virtually all other aspects of life in the U.S. Laws, rules and regulations are selectively enforced by local, state and federal institutions against La Raza, as English is used as a weapon to deprive Chicanas y Chicanos of liberty, equality and justice throughout our lives.

·Private industry (“free enterprise”) also causes havoc for Chicanas y Chicanos by perpetuating racist stereotypes and beliefs about La Raza for profit and gain. [Example: Mass media and the “entertainment” industries commercialize racist stereotypes and beliefs about Latinas y Latinos throughout the world, while pretending to be “spreading freedom and democracy” alongside the Pentagon.]

l) Terrorist(s)

A terrorist or terrorists are human beings who use unwarranted violence and(or) the threat of violence to kill, rob, rape, torture, imprison or otherwise impose their will over other human beings.

SECTION 3. STATEMENT OF PURPOSE

Nuevo Plan de Aztlan addresses the alarming attacks orchestrated against Indigenas throughout Norte America since September 11, 2001 (9/11). U.S. officials are using La Raza as a scapegoat or smokescreen to distract or divert attention away from their heinous war crimes in the Middle East.

According to their domestic propaganda, the “real problem” and therefore actual enemy or threat to national security is Mexicans and other Indigenas “invading” Norte America, not the Pentagon killing, torturing, maiming, imprisoning and destroying other indigenous peoples’ lives in faraway lands.

Thousands of racist media, vigilante, “homeland security” and other hostile actions have been executed against Indigenas since 9/11, as tens of thousands of these indigent men, women and children have been rounded up and herded out of Norte America like cattle.

SECTION 4. HISTORICAL ANALYSIS

Indigenas have suffered centuries of injusticias including genocide, rape, torture, mayhem, kidnapping, slavery, peonage, poverty, homelessness and groundless imprisonment at the hands of the original European invaders and occupiers of our Americas.

The offspring of these European terrorists expect Chicanas y Chicanos to ignore or forget this true account of their ancestors’ horrendous atrocities, as if these abominations against our Native American ancestors never occurred or mattered.

As English imperialism via the U.S. government seeks to conquer the entire world, La Raza is increasingly faced with discriminatory law enforcement, housing, education, employment, healthcare, mass media, entertainment and other racist industrial, commercial and institutional policies and practices, especially since 9/11.

The offspring of the European terrorists who originally stole our ancestral lands are guilty of receiving this stolen property. Receiving stolen property is no less a crime than stealing it. These aliens remain in denial as they continue to exploit, oppress and otherwise deprive us of our ancestral lands and freedoms from generation-to-generation much like their terrorist ancestors did against our ancestors for the past few centuries.

U.S. racists are now working to outlaw MEChA and other Movimiento organizations being blamed for “too many Mexicans” and other Indigenas in Norte America today. Local, state and federal government agencies have also made it extremely difficult for the Partido de La Raza Unida to rise politically against this institutionalized harassment, discrimination and persecution in any significant way.

These same racists oppose Chicana y Chicano Studies, affirmative action, financial aid, bilingual and multicultural education, ethnic studies, fair housing, equal employment opportunities and all other ways and means of attempting to create level playing fields for La Raza, as if the U.S. only belongs to Anglo-Americans and everyone else is a second-class citizen at best.

SECTION 5. MEXICO, CENTRO Y SUR AMERICA

The 21st Century campaign against Mexicans in the U.S.is also aimed at Chicanas y Chicanos since we are all familia. Chicanas y Chicanos have a natural, inherent or innate relationship with Mexicanas y Mexicanos because of our common Native American heritage that is everlasting.Other Indigenas throughout our Americas are suffering from these racist attacks too.

We are all being treated as a threat or potential threat to national security by the racist U.S. government at the local, state, federal and international level.

SECTION 6. GOALS AND OBJECTIVES

a) We the Chicanas y Chicanos of the United States of America must reach beyond nationalism to establish and(or) coalesce with parallel movements of other Indigenas united around our multilingual, multiracial and multicultural heritage throughout our Americas and on outlying islands.

b) El Movimiento’s mass communication, organization and mobilization initiatives call for Chicanas y Chicanos to join forces with all La Raza against our common exploiters and oppressors because we cannot be free unless and until all La Raza is free.

c) Economic justice cannot be achieved without social and political justice. La Raza must join together as an international union of Indigenas to work for this justicia as opposed to permitting the racists to continue to exploit and oppress La Raza via commercial, industrial and institutional racism from generation-to-generation.

d) This indigenous union must ensure liberty, equality and justice for all Americanas y Americanos so We can all live, work and travel freely in peace and justice throughout our Americas for so long as the rivers flow.

e) The first priority of our new union is to abolish poverty, racism and sexism throughout our Americas.

f) This union must ensure all workers in our Americas receive good jobs and compensation so that all Americanas y Americanos can have nice homes in safe and secure neighborhoods and communities. People unable to work will also have nice homes in these safe and secure neighborhoods and communities because no one will live in poverty or homelessness in our Americas except by her or his own choosing.

g) We the Chicanas y Chicanos of the United States of America must ensure our children learn about our indigenous ancestors, at home and in all the schools, colleges and universities of our Americas so they and future generations will know, understand and honor our Native American heritage.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, We the Chicanas y Chicanos of the United States of America will live our daily lives in accordance with Nuevo Plan de Aztlan to the best of our abilities.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, We the Chicanas y Chicanos of the United States of America will encourage Chicana y Chicano organizations everywhere to review, adopt and incorporate Nuevo Plan de Aztlan into their own missions, goals and objectives so all Indigenas can stand united against the new wave of racial harassment, discrimination and persecution La Raza faces in the 21st Century.

Copyright 2008 Internet Mecha. Nuevo Plan de Aztlan may be reproduced, republished and disseminated freely.

Jan 18, 2009 - 7:04 am 9. therealist:

From an interview with Mark Krikorian, author of the new case against immigration. While I personally am not opposed to legal immigration of high-skilled workers like graduate students, business owners, etc, I think he makes a good case:

“The punch line of my book is that what’s different about immigration today as opposed to a century ago is not the immigrants but us. Today’s immigrants obviously come from different countries, but they’re very similar is most relevant respects. It’s America has changed dramatically, in good ways and bad ways, but in any case in ways that make us a mature society and render our past experience with immigration irrelevant. We have a post-industrial, knowledge-based economy, a welfare state, advanced communications and transportation technology that complicate the issues of security and sovereignty, etc.

We have, in other words, outgrown mass immigration. It was an important phase of our national development, and played an important part in shaping who we are as a nation. But, like other phases we’ve passed through as a people — pioneers settling the frontier, for instance — it’s something we need to put behind us.”

Jan 18, 2009 - 7:16 am 10. Cybergeezer:

Apparently Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have a grand plan for Global Equal Opportunity. I can’t wait to see our Congress seated with incompetent, questionable resident status, non english speaking, “representatives”. The next terrorist attack against the U.S. might be from it’s own citizens, trying to get their country back.

Jan 18, 2009 - 7:20 am 11. Saltherring:

Mr. Navarrette’s text includes the NALACC quote, “failure by our federal policy makers to keep our immigration law in sync with today’s global labor market dynamics….”. This quote insinuates the majority of illegals came north to work. It would indeed be curious to ascertain how many of the “12 million” illegal aliens are engaged in meaningful employment and how many came here to engage in drug dealing/other criminal activity or to suck on the U.S. Government/State Government welfare teat?

Jan 18, 2009 - 7:35 am 12. ~Paules:

There is no border between Mexico and the United States and never has been. Indeed, the entire region has been a march-land between cultures since Coronado crossed the Rio Grande in 1540. We are witnessing a demographic migration of historic proportions. The U.S. can no more control the movement of migrating millions than Rome could control the Danube frontier against the Ostrogoths.

The “border” might be better managed, but it will never be controlled. We need better security against terrorism; that’s job one. Not a fence, but a cordon sanitaire on both sides of the “border” capable of detecting and picking up terrorists before they reach our populous cities. Such an effort would include cracking down on the drug gangs who have turned Mexican border cities to anarchy. We are currently facing a situation to our south not unlike the lawless frontier between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The migration of millions for economic reasons is far more complex. Most are not fence-jumpers. They arrive here legally and overstay their visas. We might better manage the situation with some sort of guest-worker program, but the trend is of such a scale as to be unstoppable.

The cultural implications of the situation will resolve themselves over time. Just as the Romans and Goths blended over centuries to become Italians, in a similar manner we can expect Anglo and Mexican culture to blend into something new. I live in a hybridized region where the process began with the opening of the Santa Fe Trail in 1821. The situation is manageable even where Hispanic traditions conflict with Anglo law. I am no multiculturalist, but I recognize the process of societal evolution staring me in the face.

We should endeavor to do what must be done for national security, manage better what might be done with the migrating millions, and be content to accept the historical forces we cannot change.

Jan 18, 2009 - 7:37 am 13. David Thomson:

“And why is the attempt to make English the national language deemed “controversial?”

The point of the article was that some proposals by the Republicans were politically divisive to the point that their chances of passage were doomed.”

What does making English the national language have to do with illegal immigration? There is no direct connection whatsoever. And once again why should a logical goal be deemed controversial and “politically divisive?” What explains this madness? Why should Democrats be against the concept?

Jan 18, 2009 - 8:00 am 14. john from cinncinatti:

Ruben Botello:colonial English language should be changed to colonial European language, because the last time i checked Spanish is also a white mans language. you want to eradicate racism by being a racist? the home countries have the responsibility of their own economies. you would be best suited by co opting the lingua franca as your own. if it means competing with everyone on a level playing field, you can’t ask or demand that Anglo Saxon/white people should slow down just because you can’t keep up. the bar is raised globally, we as Americans have to reach it or get left behind. go back to school and be a contributor to this great nation y dejate de chingaderas.

Jan 18, 2009 - 9:01 am 15. Fresh Air:

The author is confusing country club Republicans with conservatives. The vast majority of GOP voters believe in employer sanctions and are enraged at efforts by some companies to weaken them.

A common mistake made by liberals who don’t actually know any conservatives, only the caricatures they’ve read about in The Nation and books by Thomas Frank.

Jan 18, 2009 - 9:38 am 16. Jim Baker:

Ruben Botello,
Are you an American of any kind? Try to keep your diatribes a little shorter, or else give them some substance that makes them more readable. I am tired of this collectivist nonsense. The only place you can have liberty is a place that has free markets, and that does not include the place you are imagining. Sorry, no freedom for you.
The Democrats are about to screw up a lot more than immigration policy. What an Obamantion.

Jan 18, 2009 - 11:02 am 17. zeezil:

Amnesty would not only be a joke, it would be disastrous. Have we learned nothing in the 22 years since the last mass amnesty, The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986? Where did that get us? The immigration law enforcement and secure borders it promised have been essentially nonexistent. Twenty (20) million illegal aliens have jumped the border and reside here now and who know how many of their anchor babies in those 22 years have received de facto citizenship simply because their illegal alien parents had them on our soil (estimates state that 380,000 – 400,000 anchor babies are born each year. In fact, 10% of births in the U.S. are children (anchor babies) of illegal aliens).

Don’t for a minute think that the conditional phrase politicians use of “earned citizenship”, as stated by Congress in their amnesty proposals means anything. Background check? Yeah, right…we will have no real idea the criminal past of those foreign nationals illegally here because their either is no databases in their countries of origin or the databases are woefully inadequate. Besides, they usually “invent” new names or steal a citizen’s ID once here anyway. The last amnesty proposal proved what a joke the requirement “of no criminal past” as a condition of amnesty was. The bill stated that the FBI must provide evidence within 24 hours of the application for legalization being filed as to any reason to deny the application of the illegal for legal standing. How ridiculous is that? It’s beyond just reasonable to assume that the whole criminal background check provision for amnesty is a joke. Furthermore, membership in a gang (i.e., MS-13, SUR 13, Mexican Mafia, Latin Kings, etc.) was not grounds for denying legalization. An FBI and Justice Department report found that while Hispanics are three times more likely than white Americans to be convicted of serious crimes requiring incarceration, they are nineteen times more likely to belong to criminal street gangs. In addition, Asian youths are nine times more likely to belong to a criminal gang.

The provision to pay fines? A joke too. There were all kinds of waivers such as nothing up front, partial payment, delayed payment and even no payment if the illegal alien claimed hardship. Evenso, doesn’t this provision sound like Congress is putting up American citizenship for sale, even if you have illegally entered?

I don’t recall any provision in past amnesty bills that illegals would be screened for diseases before amnesty being granted. Malaria, polio, hepatitis, tuberculosis, measles, leprosy, venereal disease and such rarities of the Third World as dengue fever, Chagas disease, and leprosy have all increased significantly in the U.S. with the arrival of millions of illegals. Even bedbugs have invaded the U.S. for the first time in over 50 years with over 30 states reporting infestations. For 40 years only 900 cases of leprosy had been diagnosed in the U.S. But, from 2000-2003, 7000 leprosy cases were discovered. Significant increases in multi-drug resistant TB have occurred. In 2003, northern Virginia reported a 17% surge in tuberculosis cases; in Prince William Co. VA, the increase was 188%. In northern Virginia, foreign-born accounted for 92% of all cases. NOTE: Three countries, all of which send immigrants and illegal aliens to America, account for two-thirds of all TB cases: Mexico, Vietnam and the Philippines.
Since TB is transmittable through the air, an active carrier can infect 10, 20 or even more people (the time bomb effect). The incidence of TB is 10 times as high among immigrants as among our native born. Among immigrant children it is 100 times as high.

Fraud? Have I mentioned fraud in the application and assessment process? It will be pervasive and rampant. Our immigration system, even as it now exists, is riddled with fraud. The discussion of fraud in the immigration could take up a number of pages but just let me point out one recently discovered example. In November 2007 the State Department confirmed that massive immigration fraud has been perpetrated overwhelmingly by Africans claimed as close kin (parent, spouse, minor child) by legal residents who have already immigrated to the United States. Given that Somalis form the largest bloc of African immigrants to the United States, this becomes another story with Somalis playing a starring role. Evidence of “family” fakery came out in a very quietly released State Department fact sheet titled “Fraud in the Africa Priority Three (P-3) Program.” How massive was this fraud? After initiating a DNA testing program among “family” members claiming P-3 status in Africa — where 95 percent of the P-3 applications originate primarily among Somalis, Ethiopians and Liberians — the State Department learned that out of 3,500 refugees tested it could only confirm family matches “in fewer than 20 percent of cases.” The P-3 program has brought upward of 36,000 Africans into the United States just since 2003 (with another 400 arriving from the rest of the world). Just how comfortable are you that our government’s immigration system can handle the crush and rush to competently handle 20 million (or more) amnesty applications should our insane Congress pass such a measure?

Cost? How about the cost that illegal aliens here impose on us.

For education-medical-incarceration costs (all state studies by FAIR – Federation for American Immigration Reform):
North Carolina (2009 study): $1.2 billion dollars annually
Georgia (2008 study): $1.6 billion dollars annually
Colorado (2008 study): $1.1 billion dollars annually
Illinois (2007 study): $3.5 billion dollars annually
Tennessee (2007 study): $285 million annually
Iowa (2007 study): $240 million dollars annually
New York (2006 study): $5.1 billion dollars annually
Florida: (2006 study): $4.3 billion dollars annually
New Jersey (2006 study): $2.1 billion dollars annually
Texas (2005 study): $4.7 billion dollars annually
California (2004 study): $10.5 billion dollars annually
Arizona (2004 study): $1.3 billion dollars annually

All in all, the presence of illegal aliens in the U.S. is estimated to cost the country in excess of $100 billion dollars annually.

Keep in mind that the costs cited above includes only expenditures for education, emergency medical care and incarceration. The costs would be significantly higher if expenditures on other programs such as special English instruction, law enforcement/courts, translators, assistance for public housing, food stamps, welfare payments, etc. were included. Other factors not considered in the reports are job losses by citizens to illegal aliens and the depression of wages in the construction, landscaping, assembly, food processing and service sectors that most illegal aliens are employed in.

A word or two about crime should also be stated. California, Los Angeles in particular, are ground zero for total numbers of illegal aliens and their effect. For major cities, LA has the largest number of illegal aliens and estimates of at least 6 million illegals reside in the state of California. Heather MacDonald, a Manhattan Institute scholar revealed in 2004 that:
- In Los Angeles, 95% of all outstanding warrants for homicide, which total 1,200 to 1,500, target illegal aliens
- Two-thirds of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants in LA are for illegal aliens
- Some 12,000 of the 20,000 strong 18th Street Gang that operates across southern California are illegals.

Yet, Los Angeles and much of California, including a number of large cities in the nation are “sanctuary cities”. They have adopted “sanctuary” policies where local police are forbidden by orders to work with federal immigration (ICE) authorities on immigration violations. Amazingly, even when an officer (even the entire department) knows that a suspect or arrestee has been previously deported he cannot report them to ICE.

Between 2000 and 20004, 4.5 million illegal aliens had been caught sneaking into the U.S. (the Border Patrol catches about 20% of illegal entries). Among that 4.5 million there were more than 350,000 with criminal records. Therefore, one in twelve apprehended by the Border Patrol was already a criminal. That equates to 70,000 criminal felons apprehended each year. That means that well over 300,000 criminal illegal aliens succeeded in getting in during that period. How many Americans have been robbed, assaulted, raped or murdered because government failed in its duty to defend the borders and secure the safety of citizens by combating illegal immigration effectively?

FAIR reported in 2002 the magnitude of the exploding alien crime crisis:
“In 1980 our federal and state prisons housed fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens. By the end of 1999, these same prisons housed over 68,000 criminal aliens. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29% of prisoners in the Federal Bureau of Prison facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population.”

Aliens in the U.S. account for 12% of the population, but 30% of the federal prison population. The pool of legal immigrants is the sea in which the illegals and the criminals swim.

Two recent studies are of special note. The first released October 1, 2008, by the Center for Immigration Studies deals with gang activity: “Taking Back the Streets: ICE and Local Law Enforcement Target Immigrant Gangs” is the Center for Immigration Studies report that offers these highlights:

# Transnational immigrant gangs have been spreading rapidly and sprouting in suburban and rural areas where communities are not always equipped to deal with them.

# A very large share of immigrant gang members are illegal aliens and removable aliens. Federal sources estimate that 60 to 90 percent of the members of MS-13, the most notorious immigrant gang, are illegal aliens. In one jurisdiction studied, Northern Virginia, 30 to 40 percent of the gang task force case load were removable aliens.

# MS-13 activity was found in 48 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico.

# The immigrant gangsters arrested were a significant menace to the public. About 80 percent had committed serious crimes in addition to their immigration violations and 40 percent were violent criminals.

# While immigration law enforcement is a federal responsibility, ICE cannot do the job effectively without assistance from state and local law enforcement, particularly when it comes to immigrant gangs.

# Failure to adequately control the U.S.-Mexico border and to deter illegal settlement in general undermines the progress ICE and local law enforcement agencies have made in disrupting criminal immigrant street gangs.

The second, released October 3, 2008 by the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office in Phoenix, Arizona, details the percentage of crimes committed by border violators in the third largest county in the U.S. Maricopa County, Arizona is the best area in the country for reliable illegal alien crime statistics. The county sheriff, Joe Arpaio, has aggressively decided to combat illegal alien crime in his county. He has partnered with federal ICE through the 287 (g) program which trains local law enforcement personnel in determining, dealing with and deporting illegal aliens. He has a well staffed Triple I Unit (Illegal Immigrant Interdiction Unit).
The MCAO report from County Attorney Andrew Thomas features these startling numbers for prosecuted felony cases in Maricopa County, Arizona:

In 2007, illegal immigrants accounted for:

10% of sex crimes convictions
11% of murders convictions
13% of stolen cars convictions
13% of aggravated assaults convictions
17% of those sentenced for violent crimes
19% of those sentenced for property crimes
20% of those sentenced for felony DUI.
21% of crimes committed with weapons
34% of those sentenced for the manufacture, sale or transport of drugs
36% of those sentenced for kidnapping
44% of forgeries
50% of those sentenced for crimes related to “chop shops”
85% of false ID convictions
96% of smuggling convictions

Illegal immigrants make up 19 percent of those convicted of crimes in Maricopa County and 21 percent of those in county jails.

Illegal immigrants only make up an estimated 9 percent of the county’s population.

It is estimated that each violent crime cost citizens $20,000, and each property crime cost citizens $4363 per offense.

All the more a concern is research that finds the likelihood of an illegal immigrant being incarcerated grows with longer residence in the United States and that the U.S. born children (considered citizens) of illegal immigrants are dramatically more likely to be involved in crime than their illegal immigrant parents. For instance, native born Hispanic male high school dropouts are eleven times more likely to be incarcerated than their foreign born counterparts.

I suppose its well beyond time that I wrap up this long post. We must hold our federal government accountable and charge them with a dereliction of duty. The first duty of government is to protect its citizens. In that, it has failed miserably. Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government, and shall protect them against invasion.” Who can deny that we aren’t suffering an invasion, with 20 million illegal aliens massed here who arrive at the rate of approximately 2 million a year? Contrary to protecting citizens from invasion, the Federal Government has done just the contrary…facilitated the invasion. The feds require citizenship be automatic to children of illegal aliens born here, they require free (not to taxpayers) public education to illegal aliens, they require all hospitals provide “emergency” (which is essentially any) medical care to illegal aliens regardless of their ability to pay (and almost none do), the feds allow appeals almost ad finitum to deportation orders to prosecuted criminal illegals allowing them to remain circulating here with practical impunity, some states even allow illegal aliens to receive in-state tuition rates for college without extending the same privilege to citizens, the illegal alien family can receive food stamps and welfare payments if an anchor baby is involved (and many receive those benefits by having stolen a citizen’s ID or presenting fictitious ones), and illegal aliens can receive taxpayer funded public housing assistance. A perfect example is Barak Obama’s illegal alien aunt Zeituni Onyango, a Kenyan national, has been living on taxpayer assistance in Boston public housing for years. She is also an absconder as she has violated deportation orders. Besides being an illegal alien on public housing assistance another issue is how did she receive the assistance while at the same time violating deportation orders? She left the Boston area in late 2008 and moved to Cleveland, still not complying with her deportation orders. As an indication as to where we are headed with the 111th U.S. Congress under Democrat lockdown, they just passed in early January the SCHIP program which will also provide government paid for health insurance to illegal alien children. Obama is expected to sign the bill (after it cruises through the Senate) happily.

Our government and our politicians have failed us miserably, even criminally. The same goes for the faceless bureaucrats managing ineffective, ponderous, bloated agencies. They have demonstrated time and time again their inability, even their willfull disregard to protect the citizens of America from the Third World invasion. Don’t sit on your hands, get active and fight for your country. Unless the vast majority of citizens express their outrage, America as we’ve known her will be changed forever. Perhaps even destroyed.

Jan 18, 2009 - 11:06 am 18. Fishleg Murphy:

They are trying to erase our sense of nationality,and it has worked very well on our little ones.We are in the midst of a very sly overthrow of our sovereignty and it would seem that we are helpless to do anything about it.Millions upon millions of illegal aliens usurping our nation, an illegal alien usurping the Presidential Seat, traitors in Congress,both Democrat and Republican, alien religions usurping our Christian Identity(and a nation of “churches” that no longer teach the Holy Bible) and what are we left with? This is all Biblical and it makes me and people like me very bitter,for we hate satan and all these are satanic activities….it don’t take an old bluesman to tell ya that something has got to give.

Jan 18, 2009 - 12:51 pm 19. Bikerken:

The last immigration bill,(CIRB),was essentially an open borders bill. And it wasn’t just the right that defeated it. It was the collective voice of the American people, right and left. There were a lot of snakes in the CIRB oil that were being purposely hidden from the public. That’s why McCain and Kennedy tried to subvert the process and work around the normal committees and just vote on it up or down before anyone got a chance to read it. They were literally adding changes the night before the vote. They would not allow Americans or even the voting Congress to know what they were doing, that was what created so much anger. These two jerks were attempting to pass what would have amounted to the most significant legislation as far as its impact on America in the last twenty years and they didn’t want to debate one damned point of it. The fact is that whenever we start debating the illegal alien problem, rational minds quickly see that there are real problems created when one tries to legalize illegality.

The CIRB was not well thought out and it was probably impossible to actually implement it. It proposed having workers come out of the shadows and identify themselves. How do you confirm who they really are? What would stop someone, maybe a felon, who has been stealing identities for years from walking in and giving a false name? Now you have given a legal and legit false identity to someone who can go out and purchase a gun or do one of any number of things they couldn’t before. What would keep that person from walking in from the shadows and getting five new legit fake identities? Do you see what I’m getting at? You cannot have someone walk into an ICE office with nothing in their pocket but lint and give them a brand new American identity based on their word alone. What would stop a woman from getting nine or ten identities and getting social services on all of them? (hint: this has already been done). Then there were supposed to be background checks. If the background check was not completed within 24 hours, the work visa would be approved. 24 hours? We have a government organization called CIS, that conducts these checks. They get through about 30,000 a year. How many years would it take to do twelve million? (probably more than 24 hours). Other problems were these new guest workers would be eligible for drivers licenses, which because of motor voter laws, would automatically put them on the voters list. When challenged on this, McCain lied and said they wouldn’t be able to vote. Reality was another story. Another problem with the CIRB was “assumption of eligibility” clause which provided that any undocumented person would be considered eligible for the new guest worker program, so they would not be subject to deportation. This would mean that INS would not be able to pick up illegals anymore because technically, nobody would meet that status unless you could prove they were deported before. And when the Mexican authorities will give you a Consular Matricula card without you showing any proof of who you are, you could come up here with a different name every time. Also with the CIRB, the same people who endlessly rant about not being able to deport 12 million people claim that it would be no problem to cherry pick the two million with criminal records and send them back post haste. Does anybody really believe that? The CIRB was meant to create a law that was never going to be enforced, but the amnesty part of it would be in force.
Another CIRB secret was that these new guest workers would get union scale wages! Yes, that was in the law! Now we have a law mandating that they get paid MORE than most American citizens. I can actually see a positive side to this. The truth is that the only reason employers hire illegals now is that they get away with paying them a lot less money. If this law part of the law were to actually happen, and the old illegals demanded union scale, they would be let go and new illegals willing to work for less would take their jobs. Do you see where this would have lead us? You have to have legal standards that are adhered to in any free market in order for it to be a free market and that includes the labor market!

Through the years, Americans have fought for better pay, humane conditions and the result was the most prosperous working class on the planet. Even a non-high school graduate could get a good job, buy a house, and put their kids through college. What we are seeing now, is the reversal of that success. If Mexicans will live ten or twenty to a house in order to work for far less money, then they cut out Americans who need those jobs. What you are promoting is the idea that American workers should have to live at the same level of illegal immigrants or not work. Do you really want to go down that road? When Bank of America came out with this campaign a few years ago advertising that they wanted to give illegal aliens credit cards, they were embracing the anarchy. They had been giving home loans to them for years. I have many friends working in real estate out here who have told me that it was a bad idea to create the whole “No-Doc”loan program. A program that was specifically tailored to lend mortgage money to illegal aliens. This type of loan does not require you to show proof of your job or earnings. So what does an illegal have to lose? They took out these mortgages like crazy around here, they took out a home equity loan when the value went up in a year, then got HELOC’s and went crazy spending. When the bubble bursts, they’re walking away laughing whilst our politicians are trying to figure up a way for the American taxpayer to foot the bill! How stupid can you possibly be to give a credit card or a home loan to someone who you don’t even know for sure who they are?

I live in San Diego. The construction industry here is almost entirely Mexican labor. Contractors pick them up at street corners and pay them forty or fifty bucks and the end of the day and drop them off. They pay no taxes except sales taxes on what they buy. By the way, in SoCal, the “underground economy” is now just the economy. I have seen one U-haul after another get loaded up by friends of mine who were roofers, dry-wallers, painters, carpet layers, cabinet makers, plumbers, electricians, who had enough and had to pack up and leave the state because they couldn’t compete with contractors using illegal labor. Again, free markets are only free if they are law abiding.

Sanctuary policies only benefit gang members. Why? Because the idea that someone is going to turn in a gang-banger for any crime at all because they are not afraid of being deported is just plain stupid. The public is much more afraid of being killed by the gang than they are of the cops. The net result is the gangs control the neighborhoods with immunity. This is beside the fact that prosecutors openly declaring policies that they will not enforce laws they don’t like takes us further down that road of accepting individual anarchy in government.

The problem with illegal immigration in America is that there is such a large number of Mexicans ignoring our border and squatting in the US is that it is causing the merging of two very large, very different populations and cultures. Have any of you been to Mexico? It’s got some nice hotels and some decent places by the beach but all in all, it is a drug ridden, crime ridden, lawless craphole. Right now they are having a drug cartel war that makes Columbia look like rookies. They don’t speak the same language, have the same values, or even drive like we do. When they come up here, they don’t change. Mexico is open Anarchy and that’s why it is such an awful place to live. What our pro-illegal folks seem to be doing is embracing the anarchy lifestyle here in the US in some misguided sympathy to the Mexican illegals. If they really wanted to help them, they would send them all home and make them clean up their own mess at home. But they don’t want to go home. It’s easier to come here and bleed the system dry.

The next immigration reform bill will certainly be worse than the last one and when it is passed, most likely without anyone knowing what is in it, it will ring the dinner bell for millions of more third world charity cases to come here and sign up. China along wouldn’t mind dumping a couple hundred million here. Prepare for the next Mariel Boat lift and the dumping of poor people on the United States once again!

Jan 18, 2009 - 1:31 pm 20. rodguy911:

In regards to you estimate of 12 million illegals in the country, sorry but that’s way off.
James H. Walsh,former Fed. prosecutor and scholar, wrote in the book “The Social Contract:Counting the Uncountable” that the real number is closer to 38 millon than the 8-12 or 12-20 mill that we see bandied about by many of those who have not yet read his works.
He gets that number using a conservative annual rate of entry of “three ilegal aliens entering the US for each one apprehended.”
He takes the dept. of Homeland Security average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplies by 3 to 3.6 million X 10 for the period of 96-02 getting 36 million and then adds two million visa overstays.
So the problem is far worse than most realize.RG

Jan 18, 2009 - 1:32 pm 21. Saltherring:

Outstanding, zeezil. Thank you. Every American citizen should read your post. With your permission, I would like to send it to several friends and family members.

Jan 18, 2009 - 1:45 pm 22. Cybergeezer:

Wish I was doing my doctorate; This is a good place to post my dissertation.

Jan 18, 2009 - 2:10 pm 23. Eric:

Declaring English as the national language is supported by close to 90% of the population. Hardly “controversial”. What’s controversial, or ought ot be, is that we taxpayers are forced to pay to deliver government services in languages other than English. Proficiency in English is a requirement for citizenship Ruben.

Denying the US born children of illegals citizenship is likewise non-controversial and merely corrects an incorrect interpretation of an Amendment meant to confer citizenship to freed slaves. Denying citizenship to the children of illegals removes one of the magnets drawing people here.

“failure by our federal policy makers to keep our immigration law in sync with today’s global labor market dynamics and with the nation’s changing demographics.”

Translation – the white population of the US is getting old, Latin American countries can’t control their population growth and need to find a way to relieve themselves of their excess population, thus the US has a responsibility to import the poor, ignorant masses.

It is the decision of the American public alone what our immigration policies are to be. The goal of many of these people is quite simply to make the white majority just another minority. They believe that if they accomplish this that somehow all their problems will magically disappear.

Jan 18, 2009 - 4:56 pm 24. Eric:

Mass immigration will be the primary cause of the end of Europe and the US. Liberal white guilt is at the root of this madness.

Jan 18, 2009 - 5:02 pm 25. Valerie:

We need to separate criminals from desperate people who just want to work.

We need a guest worker program.

It’s not that damn hard to do, but we have to drop the assumption that every person who crosses our border illegally should ever be entitled to citizenship.

Jan 18, 2009 - 5:46 pm 26. josil:

As someone who is familiar with Navarrette’s opinion pieces,I’d have to say he is a “one trick pony” who endlessly tries to justify illegal immigration and all its discontents. Also, he has a tendency, like many of his followers, to attribute racism (or, the more fashionable term, nativism)to anyone who disagrees with him. If Pajamas wants to include someone for “balance” they can do a lot better than Navarrette–whose columns tend to have an agonizing similarity.

Jan 18, 2009 - 5:48 pm 27. Nancy Albert:

Hidden in the Amnesty bill was a fundamental change for the better in who was welcome into the U.S. This mattered more than all the nattering about amnesty because it restored standards on who we would allow into this country. Ted Kennedy ruined this country by bringing in all kinds of third world illiterates/future democrats.

And please, realize that our Social Security system has had a huge infusion of cash that will never be rebated to anybody, because the real worker was an illegal who has probably returned to Mexico by now. The SS system would be broke without Mexican workers who have no claim on their payments.

Jan 18, 2009 - 6:25 pm 28. myth buster:

If the Democrats cheat their way into power on a regular basis, they will make violent revolution and military rebellion both justified and inevitable.

Jan 18, 2009 - 6:43 pm 29. JB:

rodguy,
You are right about the #s being higher — especially for Mexican/Guat illegal squat. In fact, we have roughly 15-20% of Me-hicos population living here illegally right now… which means: Bad B.O. can annex Me-hico and then he can have his 57 states. Me-hico is an abject failure economically, politically and socially. That is their culture. On note about Aztecs and their culture: they glorified human sacrifice and performed it on such a high level that their civilization ceased. That is Aztlan culture.

Jan 18, 2009 - 8:03 pm 30. zeezil:

Saltherring:
Outstanding, zeezil. Thank you. Every American citizen should read your post. With your permission, I would like to send it to several friends and family members.
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Thanks for your compliment. Sure, distrribute my post if you’d like. I hope it can provide some information to others as to the extent of the illegal immigration problem.

Jan 18, 2009 - 9:21 pm 31. john from cinncinatti:

so much for our 2.8 kids per nuclear family. if you want to be an American there has to be a process to give citizen ship to immigrants, or shut the doors and breed more kids.

Jan 18, 2009 - 10:13 pm 32. paul_unalaska:

Nancy Albert, what you fail, or choose to accept is tens of billions of dollars made by the illegal alien here in the U.S. is sent to their homeland, respectively. Majority of these dollars going to Mexico, Central and South America, Cuba.

As I’m sure you realize, cost of living in Mexico is 100’s, 1,000’s in most instances, times cheaper than the U.S.

Most of these money is NOT going back into our economy. Suffice to say, many of these people sponge off our tax dollars stealing welfare, section 8 housing, food stamps, ‘free’ school lunches for their children, Ted Kennedy’s monstrous, ‘No Child Left Behind’ crapola, etc., etc.,

‘Probably returned to Mexico by now.’ Really? This being the case, perhaps California will get back some of the $40 billion in the hole it finds itself. Their public education system wouldn’t be ranked 47th in the country as well in the near future..

Prisons will be less crowded. Meth labs will be on the decrease. Who knows, myriad of Hispanic gangs will split now too.. woohoo!

California can also re coop money in providing college to out-of-state, more qualified candidates, more money for out-of-state tuition applicants. Instead of providing in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens.

Teen pregnancy, felony related crimes (dozens of instances), DUI arrests, uninsured motorists; accidents, out of work recent college graduates should be able to finally find a job and begin paying off their college loans.. alright!

FYI.. the SS system is broke, even when depending upon our illegal alien neighbors.

Jan 18, 2009 - 10:54 pm 33. Ann141:

One of the core issues re illegal immigration (and those who want to make it ok) is simply the question of whether or not we want to continue to have a nation based on law.

Until that is agreed on, all of the PC nonsense is tilted toward the nonAmerican groups.

Setting aside adherence to existing law is basic to the argument of the amnesty goofballs. They just aren’t honest enough to say they no longer value the United States of America as a nation.

Once again, I suppose, as the discussion reignites we are going to be treated to 24/7 MSM diatribes accusing us of being opposed to immigration. Trying to communicate with PC libs is like saying “no” to a three year old yelling for candy at Walmart.

It makes me sick that we are losing our nation.

Jan 19, 2009 - 7:02 am 34. rc:

This is my first visit to pajamasmedia — which I had thought was a conservative site. And, here I read this establishment republican, California latino, wet noodle, wishy washy article on immigration reform. Ending anchor baby citizenship is extreme? Uh no, it’s an obvious and necessary foundation to any reform.

It’ll be my last visit.

And, btw, I’m an independent. This article reflects what the republican party and labelled “conservatism” has become. We need a 3rd party and a new label.

Jan 19, 2009 - 7:40 am 35. Brian:

Both political parties have no desire to resolve this issue. Amnesty isnt the answer as it will be a never ending cycle of one amnesty after another. The fact is we have laws against crossing the borders illegally, and if we truely are a nation of laws then the laws must be enforced by whatever mean necessary. One of the main functions of the federal government is to enforce the borders of our lands and the have been unwilling to take on this constitutional requirement. Instead they spend their time debating issued which they are not required by the constitution to address. If it take placing the military on the border to enforce the laws then so be it! It is possible to control the border, it just takes the will to do so.
The vast majority of illegals in this country DO NOT pay into social security OR pay income tax. They are paid ‘under the table’ therefore what they take out of the government coffers in way of social programs and education FAR outweighs what they put it.

Jan 19, 2009 - 10:08 am 36. Lynn:

Ramos and Compean are free!!! President Bush commuted their sentences!! I just knew he would do it.

Jan 19, 2009 - 12:56 pm 37. Ann141:

31 John….

Uh…there IS a process to give “citizen ship” to IMMIGRANTS.

The reason the folks in question are called ILLEGAL immigrants is because they did not choose to follow that process.

Jan 19, 2009 - 7:23 pm 38. Markus:

David Thomson, I’ve been reading your posts for years. When are you going to wisen up and start taking seriuosly the paleoconservative thinkers who have written at length about the issues that you care about? On racial and immigration policy in paritcular, I think that you would be a lot more at home with them than with the neocons and the David Brooks’ of the world, who have taken over the Republican Party, and who have driven this nation into a ditch. And guess what, they don’t care!!!

Jan 19, 2009 - 11:46 pm 39. deguello:

I used to oppose immigration” reform”,as simply a stealthy way to turn the USA into a third world world nation of haves and haves nots, riven by class envy,fiscal corruption, demagoguic politics,and sweatshop exploitation. However, with the election of Obama,and the re-election of the democratic enablers of the wall street plutocracy that has destroyed the economy, the USA has proven that it is now a third world nation, ready to proudly stand with Chavez’ Venezuela, and the Argentina of the Perons,in the ranks of economically and socially dysfunctional nations. Let everyone come and join tjhe ranks of native born anglos: the entitled,politically uneducated boobs,who seek to trade their freedom for a government check.Let ‘em all in let ‘em all vote democrat,and, let the USA go to hell!

Jan 20, 2009 - 7:07 am 40. thirteen28:

Guys like Ruben never pass up a chance to push their anti-citizen/pro-illegal alien propaganda, do they?

Jan 20, 2009 - 2:41 pm 41. vivo:

* * * Does anyone know which country in the world has the BEST immigration policy?

Jan 21, 2009 - 4:20 am 42. whiskey:

Let’s be honest about Navarrette and the like pushing Amnesty. It’s an overt, anti-White push to make Whites a minority in their own country, as part of “justice” and really naked ethnic cleansing and dominance (on the part of Mexican immigrants and Mexican origin citizens). Allied with Blacks who also hate Whites, the whole idea is to replace American White workers with Mexican ones, at half or less the wages.

That policy was marginally acceptable during good times. During a recession? It’s like the Jessie Helms “Hands Ad” come to life — replacing workers with cheap, immigrant labor and guaranteeing that unemployed White workers never find a living wage, as the wages collapse and ethnic nepotism keeps non-Mexicans out of unions and jobs.

You can already see that in certain places, like the SEIU, or the Drywaller’s Union, which are so dominated by Mexicans that “No Whites Need Apply” is the rule of the day.

No, of course Democrats (being the anti-Working Class White guy party, think of the treatment by Dems, mostly Black, particularly officials, of Joe the Plumber for DARING to question the One) want this. They want in a Depression so they can replace Working Class Whites (and Middle Class ones) with reliably Democratic Mexican immigrants. And create the failed society of Mexico inside the US (where government monopolists like Carlos Slim get to be billionaires and politicos control all the Wealth).

That’s the whole point.

Jan 21, 2009 - 6:05 pm 43. zeezil:

At least 10 million Mexicans are here illegally. They broke the law to get in. They break it every day to stay here. This wholesale trampling on U.S. law and the constant lies illegals must tell to stay here and to stay employed engender a contempt for the law and the moral authority of the United States.

We have become Mexico’s safety valve. Mexico, a corrupt, innefective, government possesses the wealth to manage and care for its own people but it refuses. Too much corruption and elite control to spend its own dollars. Instead, they facilitate the invasion of its own into America for us to care for (and gleefully accept the $24 billion in remittances that flow back to them). If they don’t keep the invasion going, they face discontent and disruption from is disaffected populace. If the U.S. seals the border and the invasion is halted, Mexico stares revolution in the face.

Jan 22, 2009 - 5:50 am 44. deguello:

VIVO; The best immigration policy is Marxist Leninism.Look at Cuba and North Korea:policies. As typically criminal,dysfunctional marxist regimes, they have no economic prosperity to offer opportunity to would be immigrants. When the Obama regime does the same thing to the “U”sa,no one will want to come! Problem solved!

Jan 22, 2009 - 10:42 am 45. vivo:

44. deguello:

“* * * Does anyone know which country in the world has the BEST immigration policy?”

I meant this in a positive way. A country that accepts immigration, not one that rejects it.

Jan 22, 2009 - 3:59 pm 46. deguello:

Positive? Other than providing a new class of welfare-dependent democrat voters,sweatshop labor for the plut ocracy,and H1B skilled workers who depress american wages and living standards ,there’s very little that’s positive in continuing curent immigration levels.

Jan 23, 2009 - 6:02 am

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