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		<title>By: StillNoAnswers</title>
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		<dc:creator>StillNoAnswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why has this not been answered?  Why has the questioning stopped about this important issue?</description>
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		<title>By: suspicious</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/dissecting-obamas-school-record/comment-page-3/#comment-136725</link>
		<dc:creator>suspicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a retired peace officer and a life long registered Democrat. When I graduated from college I spent several hundred dollars getting dozens of certified copies of my birth certificate, college transcripts, and high school transcripts because along with every application I submitted for an entry level position with police/sheriff/probation departments that I applied to I was required to submit these documents along with copies of my diplomas. I also had to submit a list of all the addresses where I had lived since becoming an adult, and any trips I had made out of country. This information was used to conduct background investigations since I was applying for jobs that required a security clearance. Obama is applying for the highest office in the land and is refusing to produce these documents? Why bother fighting a case when it can be quashed by simply showing these documents to the judge if there isn&#039;t anything to hide?

I am two years younger than Obama and was born in Louisiana. I was born at home and the only people present were myself, and of course I have no recollection of the event, my father, who delivered me and is now deceased, and my mother. I looked over my birth certificate recently and went over the information on it. While I am certain there are records from the doctors my mother took me to shortly after my birth, the actual deed was not registered with the Office of Vital Records by my father until six months after my birth, at the time we were getting ready to move out of state. It clearly states on the document the address and Parish where I was born. Obama admits in his book that he has a copy of this document, so why is he refusing to produce it?

I also went over my college transcripts and there are fields on it that indicate what your citizenship is as well as what grants, scholarships, and financial aid you received during your education there.  I am sure that grad schools would have similar information on their transcripts as well.  Again, if there is nothing to hide, why not simply produce the documents and put the rumors to rest?

I think that the most important information in this case is that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981, which is admitted by his campaign, which was a no travel zone for US citizens at that time as Pakistan was under Marshall Law. On his way there Obama stopped in Indonesia to visit his sister at which point, in order to get into Pakistan, he would have had to get his Indonesian passport renewed in order to travel to Pakistan. The only way he could have renewed his Indonesian passport would be to declare himself an Indonesian citizen (his school records from Fransiskus Assisi show he was recognized as an Indonesian citizen as a minor, http://www.daylife.com/photo/01u33pL9Ns06D), because in 1981 Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship. This would mean that, AS AN ADULT, Obama gave up his US citizenship in order to get his Indonesian passport. If this is not the case, then Obama should not have any problems producing his US passport showing that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.  Records of this should also be maintained by the US State Department.  

While POTUS is a federal office, it is the responsibility of the Secretary of State to vet candidates.  My thought is that he has claimed his extensive travel and connections to other countries qualifies him to handle foreign affairs as President, so he should be required to produce documentation to support claims of where he has traveled (his passports), where he was born, as well as his college and grad school transcripts.  I will ask the SoS office tomorrow to properly vet Obama as a candidate and demand that Obama produce the documents requested or be removed from the ballot.  To be fair, I think that the same should be done for all other POTUS candidates, however I doubt that anyone else will have a problem producing the documentation.  Again, all he has to do is produce the documents to put an end to all the questions out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a retired peace officer and a life long registered Democrat. When I graduated from college I spent several hundred dollars getting dozens of certified copies of my birth certificate, college transcripts, and high school transcripts because along with every application I submitted for an entry level position with police/sheriff/probation departments that I applied to I was required to submit these documents along with copies of my diplomas. I also had to submit a list of all the addresses where I had lived since becoming an adult, and any trips I had made out of country. This information was used to conduct background investigations since I was applying for jobs that required a security clearance. Obama is applying for the highest office in the land and is refusing to produce these documents? Why bother fighting a case when it can be quashed by simply showing these documents to the judge if there isn&#8217;t anything to hide?</p>
<p>I am two years younger than Obama and was born in Louisiana. I was born at home and the only people present were myself, and of course I have no recollection of the event, my father, who delivered me and is now deceased, and my mother. I looked over my birth certificate recently and went over the information on it. While I am certain there are records from the doctors my mother took me to shortly after my birth, the actual deed was not registered with the Office of Vital Records by my father until six months after my birth, at the time we were getting ready to move out of state. It clearly states on the document the address and Parish where I was born. Obama admits in his book that he has a copy of this document, so why is he refusing to produce it?</p>
<p>I also went over my college transcripts and there are fields on it that indicate what your citizenship is as well as what grants, scholarships, and financial aid you received during your education there.  I am sure that grad schools would have similar information on their transcripts as well.  Again, if there is nothing to hide, why not simply produce the documents and put the rumors to rest?</p>
<p>I think that the most important information in this case is that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981, which is admitted by his campaign, which was a no travel zone for US citizens at that time as Pakistan was under Marshall Law. On his way there Obama stopped in Indonesia to visit his sister at which point, in order to get into Pakistan, he would have had to get his Indonesian passport renewed in order to travel to Pakistan. The only way he could have renewed his Indonesian passport would be to declare himself an Indonesian citizen (his school records from Fransiskus Assisi show he was recognized as an Indonesian citizen as a minor, <a href="http://www.daylife.com/photo/01u33pL9Ns06D)" rel="nofollow">http://www.daylife.com/photo/01u33pL9Ns06D)</a>, because in 1981 Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship. This would mean that, AS AN ADULT, Obama gave up his US citizenship in order to get his Indonesian passport. If this is not the case, then Obama should not have any problems producing his US passport showing that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.  Records of this should also be maintained by the US State Department.  </p>
<p>While POTUS is a federal office, it is the responsibility of the Secretary of State to vet candidates.  My thought is that he has claimed his extensive travel and connections to other countries qualifies him to handle foreign affairs as President, so he should be required to produce documentation to support claims of where he has traveled (his passports), where he was born, as well as his college and grad school transcripts.  I will ask the SoS office tomorrow to properly vet Obama as a candidate and demand that Obama produce the documents requested or be removed from the ballot.  To be fair, I think that the same should be done for all other POTUS candidates, however I doubt that anyone else will have a problem producing the documentation.  Again, all he has to do is produce the documents to put an end to all the questions out there.</p>
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		<title>By: abro915</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These insipid comments clearly reflect the real reasons McCain and Palin will lose. The Republican party has become infested with the illiterate, hateful, self serving and short sighted. Worse, these are the people McCain and the RNC has chosen to align with (I don&#039;t include Palin because she is, in fact, one of the infections). Thanks to them, the Republican has become diseased beyond cure. The intelligent, patriotic and visionary are quitting by the droves. You&#039;re too good for these pissants Bob. Let&#039;s revive the true essence of conservatism in the Independent Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These insipid comments clearly reflect the real reasons McCain and Palin will lose. The Republican party has become infested with the illiterate, hateful, self serving and short sighted. Worse, these are the people McCain and the RNC has chosen to align with (I don&#8217;t include Palin because she is, in fact, one of the infections). Thanks to them, the Republican has become diseased beyond cure. The intelligent, patriotic and visionary are quitting by the droves. You&#8217;re too good for these pissants Bob. Let&#8217;s revive the true essence of conservatism in the Independent Party.</p>
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		<title>By: YouShouldKnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>YouShouldKnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s hypocritical that no one questions why McCain doesn&#039;t make public his POW and military records. This has been a problem for families of missing POWs for years, yet, because he won&#039;t reveal these records, they cannot find out what happened to their loved ones. McCain was on the Senate Select Committee in the 70&#039;s. This committee was suppose to handle all the  MIA/POW affairs. When the Alliance of Families of MIA/POWs went before this committee, they were challenged cruelly by McCain because he felt that those records, tapes and transcripts (which included records of his POW detainment and records of other POWs, who were not accounted for) were best kept out of public view. Why wouldn&#039;t he want to help those families locate and retrieve (if possible) those who were left behind? Today, he is still sitting on those records and if there were POWs who were alive then, chances are they are not now. What would possess any man who has suffered in captivity to NOT want to release those records? If it it applies to Obama, then it applies to McCain. Why? Because his persona is built around his POW experience. I want to review those records because I understand that the vets who came back with him claimed that McCain gave important information to the enemy. Will you also petition to have those records released?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s hypocritical that no one questions why McCain doesn&#8217;t make public his POW and military records. This has been a problem for families of missing POWs for years, yet, because he won&#8217;t reveal these records, they cannot find out what happened to their loved ones. McCain was on the Senate Select Committee in the 70&#8217;s. This committee was suppose to handle all the  MIA/POW affairs. When the Alliance of Families of MIA/POWs went before this committee, they were challenged cruelly by McCain because he felt that those records, tapes and transcripts (which included records of his POW detainment and records of other POWs, who were not accounted for) were best kept out of public view. Why wouldn&#8217;t he want to help those families locate and retrieve (if possible) those who were left behind? Today, he is still sitting on those records and if there were POWs who were alive then, chances are they are not now. What would possess any man who has suffered in captivity to NOT want to release those records? If it it applies to Obama, then it applies to McCain. Why? Because his persona is built around his POW experience. I want to review those records because I understand that the vets who came back with him claimed that McCain gave important information to the enemy. Will you also petition to have those records released?</p>
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		<title>By: FactMeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>FactMeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BloodingtheEars:

These rumors will not hurt obama not no way not no how.

It is not about hurting &quot;obama&quot; [sic], it is about preserving the Republic.  Some people think the United States is a democracy.  Unfortunately they are still allowed to vote.  Well, no matter.  A lot of dead people will be voting for Obama, and maybe some cats and dogs, sheep and turkeys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BloodingtheEars:</p>
<p>These rumors will not hurt obama not no way not no how.</p>
<p>It is not about hurting &#8220;obama&#8221; [sic], it is about preserving the Republic.  Some people think the United States is a democracy.  Unfortunately they are still allowed to vote.  Well, no matter.  A lot of dead people will be voting for Obama, and maybe some cats and dogs, sheep and turkeys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sheridan bucket</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheridan bucket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bumped into that Pakistan Travel Link

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0DE2DA1338F937A25755C0A967948260&amp;sec=travel&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=all

So the reality is that he could have travelled to that country in 1981 on a US Passport. Still wish his campaign would authorize full disclosure on this and the other COLB issues to just put it to bed once and for all but for me this issue is dead unless someone proves something irrefutable.

While I am not going to vote for the guy based on the issues at hand I have posted the above link in fairness. 

As to all of the charges regarding COLB, citizenship etc., unless those records are opened up it is going to be virtually impossible to prove anything one way or the other. Somewhat unfortunate that the democrats have nominated an enigma but that was their right to do so and people can decline to vote for him if the lack of total disclosure leaves them uncomfortable. Without a legitimate bombshell the qualification issue probably has little sway in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bumped into that Pakistan Travel Link</p>
<p><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0DE2DA1338F937A25755C0A967948260&amp;sec=travel&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0DE2DA1338F937A25755C0A967948260&amp;sec=travel&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=all</a></p>
<p>So the reality is that he could have travelled to that country in 1981 on a US Passport. Still wish his campaign would authorize full disclosure on this and the other COLB issues to just put it to bed once and for all but for me this issue is dead unless someone proves something irrefutable.</p>
<p>While I am not going to vote for the guy based on the issues at hand I have posted the above link in fairness. </p>
<p>As to all of the charges regarding COLB, citizenship etc., unless those records are opened up it is going to be virtually impossible to prove anything one way or the other. Somewhat unfortunate that the democrats have nominated an enigma but that was their right to do so and people can decline to vote for him if the lack of total disclosure leaves them uncomfortable. Without a legitimate bombshell the qualification issue probably has little sway in November.</p>
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		<title>By: misanthropicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>misanthropicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: SE&#039;s credentials - mighty impressed buddy. Still, your hysterical flurry of 30 inconclusive/clogging posts in one day on this issue are clear evidence of a &quot;mental situation&quot;, if you get my drift. A freak even by going by the name of &quot;se&quot; is still a freak - crappy life you must have, man, if your only reprieve is yakking and typing on the web all day long (again, this under the reserve that you&#039;re not paid by piece by MoveOn.Org). 
Back to the issue - maestro Soetoro lost the election. So, get a ticket for y/self to Jonestown in Guyana then proceed - I don&#039;t think there is one who will regret a loon like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: SE&#8217;s credentials &#8211; mighty impressed buddy. Still, your hysterical flurry of 30 inconclusive/clogging posts in one day on this issue are clear evidence of a &#8220;mental situation&#8221;, if you get my drift. A freak even by going by the name of &#8220;se&#8221; is still a freak &#8211; crappy life you must have, man, if your only reprieve is yakking and typing on the web all day long (again, this under the reserve that you&#8217;re not paid by piece by MoveOn.Org).<br />
Back to the issue &#8211; maestro Soetoro lost the election. So, get a ticket for y/self to Jonestown in Guyana then proceed &#8211; I don&#8217;t think there is one who will regret a loon like you.</p>
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		<title>By: se</title>
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		<dc:creator>se</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Anyway…back to “Se”…&lt;/b&gt;

You can call me Steve if you&#039;d like.

&lt;b&gt;One quick question:&lt;/b&gt;

Sure.

&lt;b&gt;When these issues of his “former name/non- legal name change” and former Indonesian citizenship DO become a “mainstream” issue (and they WILL after the convention…mark my words!) and they ARE on everyone’s “radar”…do we THEN have a RIGHT TO KNOW since it’s on everyone’s mind including the media?&lt;/b&gt;

Well, as I&#039;ve said before, you have a right to ASK. But you don&#039;t have a right to KNOW.

You could only have a right to know if Obama had &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; right to &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; answer.

se</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Anyway…back to “Se”…</b></p>
<p>You can call me Steve if you&#8217;d like.</p>
<p><b>One quick question:</b></p>
<p>Sure.</p>
<p><b>When these issues of his “former name/non- legal name change” and former Indonesian citizenship DO become a “mainstream” issue (and they WILL after the convention…mark my words!) and they ARE on everyone’s “radar”…do we THEN have a RIGHT TO KNOW since it’s on everyone’s mind including the media?</b></p>
<p>Well, as I&#8217;ve said before, you have a right to ASK. But you don&#8217;t have a right to KNOW.</p>
<p>You could only have a right to know if Obama had <i>no</i> right to <i>not</i> answer.</p>
<p>se</p>
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		<title>By: Ambrose P. Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambrose P. Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Obama is not releasing his Birth Certificate because he wants his adversaries to use up &quot;resources?&quot;

C&#039;mon. What ridiculous reasoning.  He stands to lose ten of thousands of votes if people think he&#039;s not a natural born US citizen.  He has everything to gain by making public an authentic birth certificate. Especially given that so many people look askance at his Indonesian upbringing.

Maybe he&#039;s not releasing his Birth Certificate for the same reason that John F. Kerry refused to release ALL of his military records.

Again, he has much to gain by affirming his US birth.  And many votes to lose if he doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Obama is not releasing his Birth Certificate because he wants his adversaries to use up &#8220;resources?&#8221;</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon. What ridiculous reasoning.  He stands to lose ten of thousands of votes if people think he&#8217;s not a natural born US citizen.  He has everything to gain by making public an authentic birth certificate. Especially given that so many people look askance at his Indonesian upbringing.</p>
<p>Maybe he&#8217;s not releasing his Birth Certificate for the same reason that John F. Kerry refused to release ALL of his military records.</p>
<p>Again, he has much to gain by affirming his US birth.  And many votes to lose if he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: se</title>
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		<dc:creator>se</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;This ends for me if someone can describe the Pakistan trip in a way that excludes his use of documentation other than a US Passport to enter that country. Apparently non-muslims trying to enter at that point on US Passports would have had some difficulty, although being that it was 25 years ago this too is hard to confirm.&lt;/b&gt;

Actually someone found a write-up in the New York Times&#039; travel section on Pakistan from the same year and it gave absolutely no indication at all of such difficulties.

I know I reposted the link somewhere, but I can&#039;t find it offhand. I&#039;ll dig a little deeper later and if I find it I&#039;ll post it here.

se</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This ends for me if someone can describe the Pakistan trip in a way that excludes his use of documentation other than a US Passport to enter that country. Apparently non-muslims trying to enter at that point on US Passports would have had some difficulty, although being that it was 25 years ago this too is hard to confirm.</b></p>
<p>Actually someone found a write-up in the New York Times&#8217; travel section on Pakistan from the same year and it gave absolutely no indication at all of such difficulties.</p>
<p>I know I reposted the link somewhere, but I can&#8217;t find it offhand. I&#8217;ll dig a little deeper later and if I find it I&#8217;ll post it here.</p>
<p>se</p>
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