Don’t Hate Sarah Palin Because She’s Beautiful
Female pundits like Maureen Dowd sound more like mean girls than serious political analysts. (Also read Victor David Hanson: ( Sarah Palin and Her Critics)
Remember those old Pantene shampoo ads with ’80s modeling sensation Kelly LeBrock? “Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful.”
Apparently women like Maureen Dowd and Liz Trotta didn’t get the memo. (Perhaps Keith Olbermann fits into this category as well.) They’re still hounding Sarah Palin — Dowd with her recycled “Caribou Barbie” shtick that passes for humor in the sourly elite pages of the New York Times, and Trotta’s contention that Palin is “inarticulate and undereducated,” hadn’t accomplished anything, “brought the attacks on herself,” is “wacky and nutty,” and only got ahead because of her looks. Oh, and Trotta thinks Dowd is funny and witty. So do I — when compared to having a root canal. Actually, I think the root canal is preferable (yes, I have had one).
What Trotta finds amusing is Dowd’s latest snark against Palin, which is chock full of her usual tired repartee: we are treated to phrases like “girlish bubbling” and “Sarah’s country music melodramas,” which is code for white trash. And we all know how liberals feel about white trash, a.k.a. average Americans who don’t read the New York Times — they’re beneath contempt until it’s time to ask them for either their votes or their money. Or both, depending on who’s doing the asking.
Meanwhile, the woman who criticized Palin’s “girlish bubbling” did some bubbling of her own back in 2005 when she was pushing her book Are Men Necessary? (Answer: yes, they are, except for those who can’t seem to get one of their own.) Myrna Blyth wrote about Dowd’s behavior during the publicity blitz at the time:
We know from that adoring cover story in New York magazine a few weeks back that Maureen favors green cowboy boots, a pink Burberry — and lots of lame. That story also confided that Maureen is just such a “fox,” an assertion that was somewhat belied by the photos, both old and current, accompanying the feature. The truth is that she is now a woman in her 50s who looks like an attractive woman in her 50s. Except for her forehead, which is age 27 and so smooth (I wonder, how come?) that it seems she wouldn’t be able to frown even if Gloria Steinem hit her over the head with a frying pan.
But it isn’t only that this 53-year-old mutton is shopping in the wrong boutiques; what’s really striking is that Maureen acts so lamb-like in these interviews, gamboling and simpering, giggling and flirting and telling everyone she is “such a ditz.” To the New York magazine reporter, she admitted that she is always losing cell phones and laptops — just the kind of behavior a mother would find intolerable in any child older than 16.
Wow, Dowd is a ditz? Who knew?
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1. ic:They hate her not only because she is beautiful. They hate her because they are catty, they can’t stand women who are more successful, more powerful than them. Proof: they hated Hillary almost as much.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:10 am 2. WhyamInotsurprised?:What gnaws at these ladies is that in the deepest recesses of their heart of hearts, they know that the price of your heels, dresses, hair do, or makeup do not make for “class.” Palin has the class they can only dream of having. The only thing they have is a podium from which to use their sharpened tongues to attack those who they, they envy.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:15 am 3. Marie Claude:one would say that there nothing new under the conservative skies that their MSM still want to promote Sarah Palin ?
if none would talk of her, she wouldn’t be the object of the MSM insanities too !
so, cé l’arroseur arrosé !
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:29 am 4. David Thomson:Sarah Palin also makes these secular women feel guilty. They almost certainly would have aborted a medically defective baby—especially if they were already over 40 years of age. Palin’s pro-life values especially anger the secularists. As matter of fact, they may be the primary reason why she is so hated. Please note that a high number of these women like Maureen Down never gave birth to even one child. The odds are that many of them have had at least one abortion.
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:29 am 5. Marc Malone:Looking at it from this perspective, I would interpret that they hate her because men LOVE her. I know some men are vulgar about it, but most men know a real woman when they see one. The universal reaction is that Todd Palin is a very lucky man. This, of course, is intolerable.
If Sarah were one of them, a liberal, she would be Queen Bee, but she hangs out with the guys. Hunting, fishing, snowmachine riding… has she no shame.
I have a sister just like Sarah. She’s beautiful, smart, and good at her work. The other women hate her, and the men love her. She can’t hold a job because of it. The women all work to drive her out. She suffers the whispering campaigns and the outright smears. They absolutely cannot tolerate her.
Now, where have I seen that behavior pattern before…?
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:30 am 6. Glass:Pleasant, secure and attractive seem to be traits that are missing in a large percentage of the left’s female ranks so it’s no wonder they gravitate to those they feel more comfortable with.
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:25 am 7. Formwiz:Hard to figure out who’s the monkey and who’s the organ grinder in Dowd’s case.
Liz Trotta really disappointed me in her shots at Mrs. Palin, particularly castigating her for being a beauty contestant. Waht does that have to do with ability? Even worse, when she asked, “What would William F. Buckley say about her”, I could only think, “The same thing he said about Ronald Reagan”.
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:29 am 8. The Skizzerd of Waz:Those liberal double baggers would lose a beauty contest to Danny DeVito for crying out loud!
You rock Sarah!
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:35 am 9. Sassenach:The “enlightening article” about women in the workplace strikes me as being more about the perils of awful leadership than about women, per se. I’ve been in the workforce for 25 years, leading both men and women. While there are certainly gender differences, both are effective in workplaces that are well-managed. The author of the article admits her own low expectations and failure to act in the face of inappropriate behavior. When a woman sticks her hand down her blouse and tweaks her nipples in a conference room, that’s grounds for immediate dismissal — not writing a policy manual about respecting others.
Similarly, while Palin has been attacked on the basis of her gender, let’s not trivialize this as merely a “mean girls” problem. The left will dehumanize whomever dares to disagree with them and will attack on the basis of whatever pressure point they can find, be it gender, class, religious faith, age, or skin color.
Where the hell are all the grown-ups?
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:04 am 10. JR:Step back and take a look at what all of these people are saying and how they are saying it. What they are revealing is their not only their very own character as they talk about others, but are essentially talking about themselves and their values.
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:15 am 11. DANIEL:They hate her because she is beautiful and they have to face a mirror every morning and most men and I mean men not girly men love her.
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:16 am 12. maurice:All you need do is run photos of Palin and Dowd side-by-side and the answer comes clear.
Dowd’s visage is proof positive of what was said about the English king many years ago: at 50, one has the face one deserves.
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:27 am 13. David S:Whether Sarah Palin is beautiful or not is a matter for debate, but it certainly is not the reason that she is so disliked by so many.
Of course, given her weakness in every other area, it is no shock that the only aspect of Palin that can be vigorously defended is her physical appearance.
It’s quite entertaining to watch as the PJM echo chamber rolls on, oblivious to the larger world. It’s not a crime to keep pretending that Palin is ready for prime time, but it is foolish to claim that it’s her “beauty” that people object to.
No matter her appearance, her words and actions are more than ugly enough to compensate.
Peace.
DS
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:33 am 14. Fred P:Why should it matter to Palin or anyone here what Dowd says?
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:34 am 15. elvis:A strong, confident, smart, beautiful woman. Nothing like it.
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:42 am 16. Mike2:I am beginning to realize that it is envy and jealousy that make the world go around. Dowd and Company have the affliction in spades.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:03 am 17. Marie Claude:as a matter of foreign affairs, we don’t care how she manages her household, but how she will handle the foreign policies, so far, it was a fiasco !
don’t say that we are jealous, because she is beautiful, may-be it’s an exception in your country but not by ours
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:19 am 18. Middleman:So this is how the argument devolves? I’m sure they must hate her for her freedoms as well, just like those pesky Muslims and commies.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:21 am 19. hBG:don’t feed the troll
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:22 am 20. Tommyd:#4 Marc Malone
Marc speaks the truth as far as most men are concerned.
“most men know a real woman when they see one”
And there is not a damn thing the Dowd’s of the world can do about it. You either have it or your don’t and women like Dowd are just pissed because they know they don’t have it and they can’t buy it at Sack’s or from their favorite plastic surgeon.
If you want to call Todd a lucky man yes he probably is but by looking at the Palin family there was more than luck involved there.
I would say that both he & Sarah have worked very hard to build the family they have and everyone knows that is no easy task.
Of course how would you expect Dowd to respect the effort the Palin’s put forth in having their family as she has nothing in her life to compare it to.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:25 am 21. bill:Dowd’s entire adult life has been nothing but writing for the New York Times.
Oh and don’t let those cute little (old) pictures on her columns fool you, she’s pushing 60…. (tell me why columnist persist in using 20 year old pictures in their headings? such vanity)
Dowd hates because that’s all she’s got.
David S.
Please draw a clear line of distinction between Dowd’s relentless comments about her looks, dress, etc., and the notion that it’s her lack of credentials that trouble her.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:35 am 22. Mike Murray:Dowd is truly unique in that she possesses both penis AND vagina envy.
Dowdy Miss Maureen can have any man (or woman) she pleases. Seems she just can’t please any.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:38 am 23. Fred Beloit:David S, someone has finally written a piece just for you:
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:43 am 24. J. Robertson:http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDE3MmE5MDVmMGM1YjQ2NmVhMjJkN2I2ZTcxMzhlNjU=
Touche’ !!!
Bravo !! Bravo !!
Jul 8, 2009 - 7:09 am 25. vicsmith:I think that the first comment is right on. It’s about the power and strength Palin and Clinton have shown in leading and daring to compete with men. With Palin they use her beauty against her, but it’s not what really drives them nuts. And many women side with men against powerful women to puff themselves up, seem less threatening, and in their minds, more desirable.
Jul 8, 2009 - 7:18 am 26. Terry:I don’t think I ever read Kahane before, but that article was brilliant!
Link it again:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDE3MmE5MDVmMGM1YjQ2NmVhMjJkN2I2ZTcxMzhlNjU=&w=MA==
Jul 8, 2009 - 7:36 am 27. Oldguy:I think these feminists have a physical fear of Palin, much like little dogs yapping at the big dog. She has the ability to do physical things they are incapable of while looking good doing these things.
Jul 8, 2009 - 7:46 am 28. Paul -Indiana:As a politician, Palin can’t sue for libel. As a private citizen she can.
Jul 8, 2009 - 7:52 am 29. Mike W.:Please. The Quitter-in-Chief couldn’t name a single Supreme Court decision beyond Roe v. Wade, couldn’t name a single publication she reads, and couldn’t even give a somewhat coherent resignation speech. I don’t give a crap how beautiful she is – she’s still not qualified for office.
Jul 8, 2009 - 7:57 am 30. Dan Smith:How about this? They are lazy and they know they can write an anti-Palin column by coloring between the lines for fifteen minutes. The editors and their fans don’t really care. A lot of people just phone it in during the summer. Why should Dowd et al be any different?
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:03 am 31. seven:Envy. Envy is a monster. Dowd can’t improve her personal looks a single bit by trying to tell us Gov Palin is ugly or undesirable. Dowd is limited to working with what she sees in the mirror. Much of the hate is a reaction to what surrounds Gov Palin. She has a masculine husband. She has strong and healthy children. She lives in fresh air. She is not a gossip and busy with what other women are doing.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:07 am 32. Banned by Huffpo:Dowd has the Tonya harding syndrome.
They hate her because she’s so stupid, unlike Joe Biden, who’s . . . er, um, ah, well, never mind!
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:08 am 33. Pat J:Yeah. Sarah Palin’s quite beautiful. But I don’t need the likes of Maureen Dowd and Liz Trotta to let me know she’s an idiot.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:12 am 34. Mary Mary:4. David Thomson:
“Sarah Palin also makes these secular women feel guilty. They almost certainly would have aborted a medically defective baby—especially if they were already over 40 years of age.”
On a slightly more serious note:
A 44-year old woman should have known that she is gambling with the health of her unborn child if she gets pregnant.
Preeclampsia, hypertension, fetal growth restriction, diabetes and preterm labor, Down’s Syndrome, and chromosomal abnormalities in general are a lot more likely to happen at that age.
Abstinence or some form of birth control for women older than 40 is a good idea in general.
Gambling with an unborn child’s health is not.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:16 am 35. elvis:#13
No matter her appearance, her words and actions are more than ugly enough to compensate.
Yes loving life , freedom and independence…. that is ugly to you and your ilk!
#17
as a matter of foreign affairs, we don’t care how she manages her household, but how she will handle the foreign policies, so far, it was a fiasco !
hahahaha…. and your country has been a pathetic fiasco since we saved you from Hitler!
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:18 am 36. Sandra:There is nothing more vicious and cruel than a teenager girl. The liberal left’s mentality in most cases is barely that of a spoiled untaught teenager roaming the street.
Case made.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:20 am 37. trangbang68:The echo chamber of Big Media and the political class are like King George’s court and Louis the 14th and Marie Antoinette. They are corrupt aristocrats sneering at the hoi polloi. Palin is a dynamic, attractive voice of the people not cowed by her alleged betters.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:23 am 38. independent:Our founding fathers saw in the legislature common people voicing their concerns and sensibly making statutes. Instead, today we have entrenched mediocrities like Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, etc.
and the court jesters in the media pliable tools for the permanent government. Sarah Palin is a face on the wide and growing popular disdain for our venal, stupid elites. Hopefully we can solve this peaceably without seeing our own Dantons and Robespierres come to the fore.
OMG!!! the Republicans are weak..weak…weak…
Just face it…the Repubs need to grow some steel balls and quit acting like they have to handle the Dems with gloves…B.S. ASK HILLARY!! she might have an extra pair to loan the softies on the right.
Mc Cain made me sick. Honestly such a namby pamby little white guy..oohhh, we mustn’t answer back, ooohhhh we can’t say anything out of line..BULL!!! I dont’ care what he was or what he did back then…it’s now that counts!!!
He should have stood up for Palin. All the right does is allow people like Dowd to exist on their blood.
Palin makes those left babes look at their life and go ..”oh crap, it’s passed my by”…
If you think Palin does not have a lot of backers…more so now than before..then you are living under a mushroom and posting on these sites too much.
We’re Idenpendents and like Palin a lot. She has moral and ethics, something the Republicans need a loLOTLOTLOt more of, and something the Dems lost COMPLETELY a few years ago.
they all say “we want the best for America”, and I say “B.S.”
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:23 am 39. jharp:“Don’t Hate Sarah Palin Because She’s Beautiful”
I don’t hate anybody. And what someone looks like has nothing to do with whether I like them or not.
Now you don’t go loving her because she’s good looking and as ignorant as a sack of hammers.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:27 am 40. sheesh:28. Paul -Indiana: . . . “As a politician, Palin can’t sue for libel. As a private citizen she can.”
Wrong. She’s still a public figure, which means less protection than private citizen.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:28 am 41. sheesh:Her looks are the only thing I like about her.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:30 am 42. seeker:Dowd, Trotter etc, are has beens and they know it, sorta like Joan rivers type people.
When God said “want some meanness?”, they thought he said “want some penis?” they all said “yes, a lot”…now they’re angry and take it out on people like Palin…because they lost out all the way around…
they’re just a symptom of what’s going on in our country. The people of America need to take a stand against such peoople, but we wont’, it would be too much trouble.. we have become apathetic, period. It’s totally disgusting.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:36 am 43. Sapwolf:Beauty is on the outside is skin deep and Palin’s got it.
Beauty on the inside is gold and Palin’s got that too Maureen.
Eat your heart out.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:39 am 44. bill:jharp,
Please clarify your remarks. Joseph Biden is the biggest ignoramus in government; his gaffes astound. What exactly makes Sarah Palin “ignorant as a sack of hammers”? And please use only valid examples. She never said the earth is 4000 years old, so let that one go.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:40 am 45. Sapwolf:That abortion is eating at her soul too.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:41 am 46. jharp:Paul -Indiana:
“As a politician, Palin can’t sue for libel. As a private citizen she can.”
Palin most certainly can sue for libel as a politician. The difference is the threshhold is much higher for a public figure. Much, much higher.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:42 am 47. Sapwolf:Dowd realizes her entire life was wasted trying to live up to the far left feminist vision of what a woman should be.
How did that go honey?
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:46 am 48. Middleman:It’s just so funny to me that they think Palin is such a threat. The venom isn’t there because she’s the new breed of dynamic woman, it’s there because the majority at large are insulted by the Republicans taking a backwater Stepford wife and posing her as being a saavy political darkhorse.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:56 am 49. sheesh:Why all the fuss about Maureen Dowd? It’s obvious. You’re scared to death of her.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:01 am 50. Blarty Blarckleblart:Um, Ms. Meister? The only people who read Maureen Dowd are conservatives looking for their outrage fix. But I’ll give ol’ Mo this: she’s got y’all hooked bad.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:04 am 51. Mike W.:Beauty fades, but stupid is forever.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:06 am 52. mariecurie:#34 Mary Mary: “A 44-year old woman should have known that she is gambling with the health of her unborn child if she gets pregnant . . . Abstinence or some form of birth control for women older than 40 is a good idea in general . . . Gambling with an unborn child’s health is not.”
Oh, this is just peachy. Liberal women are the first to claim their abortion rights and to advocate for “choice.” Yet they are also the first to criticize the choice of a woman who chooses to have a baby at a later stage in life. Sorry, but your concern over “gambling with an unborn child’s health” rings terribly hollow.
I know several children with Down’s who were born to women in their 20s. I also know many women in their 40s who have had healthy pregnancies. Some women don’t marry until they are in their late 30s. Many forms of birth control are not advised for the over 35/40 crowd. Some women have health and or/religious issues with birth control. So, let’s see, what is a woman supposed to tell her husband? “Sorry, honey. We can’t have sex for the next decade because it’s not safe to get pregnant in my 40s.” Yeah, right.
In the past month, I have heard more women than I can count criticize Palin for getting pregnant in her 40s. I’m really outraged.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:17 am 53. bill:Blarty Blarcklebart,
Can you please provide statistics on the claim that Dowd’s readership consists of Conservatives?
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:18 am 54. 100% american!!:#44 about jharp, I think you are mistaken abut his comment…
“ignorant as a sack of hammers” seems to be his family name, not merely a comment. He never offers anything constructive, like Sheesh. they’re on here, and practically every other site I’ve seen, to yank your chain nothing more. they live in mom’s basement. Gotta cut ‘em some slack.
Trotter etc are not people that I pay attention to. Losers. Learn to ignore them, don’t read the columns..
It’s like YOU KNOW there’s a pile of poop right outside your door, you could step over it or clean it up, but you choose to step in it and then you complain, ….so, ignore them.
Yeah, we are “scared” of Maureen…have you seen that woman, heard her talk???? jeeesss!! and Dowd!! obviously any beauty they had, and they had that “only a face a mother could love” look, has faded and the
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:32 am 55. shau-jan:STUPID is stuck on them.
i think there are going to be alot of sarah palins popping out of the wood work,people are simply digusted with the status quo.why do you think they have all the lickspittles churning away fulltime? she’s even getting it from repubs,they sure as hell do not want anyone in their party with power they cannot control.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:33 am 56. Marie Claude:elvis but your ignorance is well known, and your happy end, a fiasco ! LMAO
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:33 am 57. Commuter:There is a tale in the timing of these 3 posts.
49. sheesh:
Why all the fuss about Maureen Dowd? It’s obvious. You’re scared to death of her.
Jul 8, 2009 – 9:01 am
50. Blarty Blarckleblart:
Um, Ms. Meister? The only people who read Maureen Dowd are conservatives looking for their outrage fix. But I’ll give ol’ Mo this: she’s got y’all hooked bad.
Jul 8, 2009 – 9:04 am
51. Mike W.:
Beauty fades, but stupid is forever.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:34 am 58. Blarty Blarckleblart:Jul 8, 2009 – 9:06 am
Can you please provide statistics on the claim that Dowd’s readership consists of Conservatives?
Sure.
The mean Dowd reader is Pat Buchanan. David Brooks and Attila the Hun represent two standard deviations from the mean.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:38 am 59. elvis:Marie Claude you are a clod!
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:46 am 60. IlikeIke:Learn some English will ya?
Do you know what ignorant means?
I can only speak for myself, but I don’t hate Sarah Palin for anything…
But I have yet to forgive her for that “real Americans” remark.
Don’t want to be a myth-buster here, but folks living in American cities (even coastal, liberal ones) are just as authentically American as the country folk living out in the rural areas. To suggest otherwise is, well, un-American and offensive.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:58 am 61. elvis:Actually #60…. she was talking about people that work as real Americans.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:02 am 62. Strawman:Most of these liberals cities need to be propped up by those that work. So, like Palin, we don’t consider those as real Americans. If you’re one of them, then get a job and then we won’t think so poorly of you!
Now now, Marie. Elvis is having a beer now with Michael Jackson and Jimmy Hoffa and JFK and Hitler. If only you knew where they all really are…
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:03 am 63. tjproudamerican:Sarah Palin may be many things, but “classy” is not one of them.
Her children will have less education than their grandparents. Her daughter got pregnant in High School and quit (A Family Tradition) and her son lost his College Scholarship because he was undisciplined and joined “the Service” to “straighten his head out”.
Ms. Palin’s family is an American phenomena of the “Downwardly Mobile”. Before you emulate her, make sure you have “Contractor Buddies” to build you a Million Dollar Estate, and a fool to pluck you from obscurity where a worshipful mob will kiss your behnd and feel sorry for themselves because other people do not worship you.
This is all too much, as in too stupid for even Right Wingers to believe. I suppose that saying that is anything is too stupid for Right Wingers to believe leaves me open to a lawsuit by Palin’s crack Alaskan Hillbilly attorneys, Jethro, One-Eye, Lefty, and Firefly.
Absolutly pathetic bunch of losers on the Right……
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:08 am 64. tjproudamerican:Pam….I looked your picture up and I will admit that Sarah Palin is way sexier and more attractive than you
Is Sarah Palin the Queen Bee to your ‘homely c@$! blocker’?
Talk about projection! Many women are better looking than you. Sorry!
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:11 am 65. Geoff:@54
““ignorant as a sack of hammers” seems to be his family name, not merely a comment. He never offers anything constructive, like Sheesh. they’re on here, and practically every other site I’ve seen, to yank your chain nothing
more. they live in mom’s basement. Gotta cut ‘em some slack.”
A couple weeks ago jharp responded to a comment directed at sheesh. I guess Mr. Sack of Hammers forgot to switch his handle over because he was in such a rush to post another one of his brilliant, informative points. I’d say loser is a fairly decent label for someone who creates multiple handles for themselves so that they can agree with each other.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:28 am 66. BCK:Afraid of Dowd? That is a joke, right?
Anyone who is so intent on character attacks like Dowd does consistently, is the one who is full of fear. It is a shame that she and the MSM and along with the Hollyweirdies, talk show hosts, etc. have wasted any (so called) talent they have on assisting TOTUS with the destruction of our great country.
Sarah is not stupid, if you insist on saying she is, please back up your comments with facts.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:34 am 67. elvis:It is easier to come up with facts (valid) about TOTUS & the VP being stupid than it is Palin.
JMHO
tjproudamerican….#63, #64
sounds like you’re talking about Obama’s MAMA #63. She actually was a teen age hussy.
And then Obama himself…. what was that about Obama the druggie when he talked of “straightening his head out” in one of his narcissistic autobiographies ?
As far as education where did Obama go to school? no one can seem to find his records… and why can’t he talk unless he has a tele prompter???
Gee you voted for what you so bitterly criticized…an ignoramus. Good for you tj.
at least Palin’s kids are trying to straighten out instead of writing phony autobiographies.
You lefties are so dumb you don’t even know what you don’t know.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:37 am 68. Marie Claude:strawman, I bet they are haunting our fellah’s attic
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:41 am 69. WhyamInotsurprised?:Marie Claude – you say ” …may-be it’s an exception in your country but not by ours.”
What do you mean by “ours?” Do you mean you can tell behind the hijab of the muslim women who now dominate France as well as other European countries?
I know you mean to say that French women are more beautiful. I would agree they are beautiful but so are women from all countries. Your nationalistic pride is apparent. When can we see your pic?
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:42 am 70. David W. Lincoln:As long as it is culturally verboten by those who want to perpetuate the upper middle class going berserk in the 1960s, then they will be the reactionaries.
Lets face it, is their conduct something to aspire to?
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:43 am 71. David Thomson:“…they live in mom’s basement. Gotta cut ‘em some slack.”
The odds are at least 50/50 this individual is being paid by a George Soros outfit to raise hell on center-right websites. It has been reported that a number of bloggers who nobody hardly ever visits are paid roughly $1,500 monthly. We should never forget how much money is available to leftists via large non-profits.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:43 am 72. Marie Claude:tjproudamerican
I wouldn’t call you a smart American,
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:45 am 73. elvis:#64
and tj it’s obvious you are not a civil person, or have even a modicum of manners, or an ounce of grace. You are a coward and a bully.
We conservatives are going after you and those tactics.
Palin actually changed the rules on your cowardly attacks.She has stymied the fraudulent media. They are besides themselves with soiling themselves like you seem to be. You and they know it.
Most of us have had it with this destruction of human beings
You morons will wither because none of you can take it. You can’t take an insult or debate.
If you had insulted my wife like you did Pam Meister I would have wiped the floor with you.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:48 am 74. Mary Mary:That is what is going to start happening to you little liberal wimps!
52. mariecurie:
“I know several children with Down’s who were born to women in their 20s. I also know many women in their 40s who have had healthy pregnancies. Some women don’t marry until they are in their late 30s. Many forms of birth control are not advised for the over 35/40 crowd. Some women have health and or/religious issues with birth control.”
I’m just stating the facts.
The older a woman gets, the more likely it is that her child will have genetic defects and other diseases.
It’s true that every pregnancy is a gamble for a woman, but it gets worse as she gets older.
“So, let’s see, what is a woman supposed to tell her husband? “Sorry, honey. We can’t have sex for the next decade because it’s not safe to get pregnant in my 40s.” Yeah, right.”
Abstinence is a big thing nowadays.
So is getting the man to use a condom.
Or she could use her mouth.
Remember, your mouth can’t get pregnant.
“In the past month, I have heard more women than I can count criticize Palin for getting pregnant in her 40s. I’m really outraged.”
I’m against abortion and I support her choice wholeheartedly.
But let’s not kid ourselves.
She should have been more careful when having intercourse.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:52 am 75. Marie Claude:A child’s life is not to be played with just for brief carnal pleasure.
the dilemn is, guis say SP is hated by the women because she is sexy
but I read that the guis say that SP is “hot”, so I’m not wondering why she got their support.
In Political world a woman has to be lookable, otherwise –> Exit door !
Have you ever think about Sarko’s strategy ? most of the women in his government are from betiful to lookable, it’s because media images prevail nowadays, no matter how a political woman open her mouth, their appearance is scenarised ; some concils with media gurus and opinionists work on the legend
Also for Palin, she doesn’t make the exception
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:53 am 76. Marie Claude:beautiful to lookable
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:55 am 77. IlikeIke:“61. elvis:
Actually #60…. she was talking about people that work as real Americans. Most of these liberals cities need to be propped up by those that work.”
Bull. A garbage collector in Boise, ID is no more “real” or “American” than a garbage collector in San Francisco. Period.
Period.
PS. It would be nice for Palin and similar-minded folks to acknowledge just once that this is a great country, from sea to shining sea (liberal coastal cities included), and that it’s citizens –whether you’re a guy named Juan from El Paso, a girl named Sheniqua from Compton, or a good old boy from Ohio named Joe the Plumber — are all REAL.
Jul 8, 2009 - 10:57 am 78. elvis:#75
You make no sense.
Most big cities are in decline because they are run by democrats and produce nothing but contributing to the growing welfare state.
NYC is always in the red….. Check out the whole state of CALIF.
Sarah Palin, along with many of us, are constantly acknowledge how great the USA is. We’re just trying to stop the wholesale selling out and destroying the greatest country in the world. You on the other hand seem to be missing that point.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:10 am 79. elvis:and by the way…. have you heard the lordgod almighty OBAMA say anything positive about America EVER? Or his angry bitter wife?
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:15 am 80. Marie Claude:How about most of the democratic party?
The party of doom and gloom and how bad America is….
Please ILIKEIKE #77… take care of yourself and the people you are trying to apologize for first!
WhyamInotsurprised?:
I’m not a candidate to any political position
and we are goin to ban burkas, while I understoold for you it would benouncing to your constition, freedom of enlaving (gniarc
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:20 am 81. Marie Claude:freedom of enslaving
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:20 am 82. Marie Claude:renouncing
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:21 am 83. David Thomson:“There is a tale in the timing of these 3 posts.
49. sheesh:
Why all the fuss about Maureen Dowd? It’s obvious. You’re scared to death of her.
Jul 8, 2009 – 9:01 am
50. Blarty Blarckleblart:
Um, Ms. Meister? The only people who read Maureen Dowd are conservatives looking for their outrage fix. But I’ll give ol’ Mo this: she’s got y’all hooked bad.
Jul 8, 2009 – 9:04 am
51. Mike W.:
Beauty fades, but stupid is forever.
Jul 8, 2009 – 9:06 am
Jul 8, 2009 – 9:34 am”
There is a good possibility that all three posts are written by the same person. If this is indeed the case, the individual is merely engaging in harassment and not dialogue. They should be banned.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:22 am 84. Mike W.:61. elvis: “Actually #60…. she was talking about people that work as real Americans.
Most of these liberals cities need to be propped up by those that work. So, like Palin, we don’t consider those as real Americans. If you’re one of them, then get a job and then we won’t think so poorly of you.”
You’re a moron. Firstly, she wasn’t talking about “people that work as real Americans”, you’re just making that up because apparently you need to lie in order to make your pont of view. Secondly, liberal states, have to dole out millions of dollars of their money every year to pay the bill for the southern red states. Case in point, liberal states New York and California send out 3 times as much in tax dollars to the Feds, then they receive back. right-wing Mississippi on the other hand, receives 4 times as much federal dollars than they generate in federal taxes. Palin’s own welfare state of Alaska gets back $1.87 back in services for every dollar they pay in Federal Taxes. That’s a 187 percent return on the investment. Or, you could just call it welfare, because that’s what it is – another red state that leaches money from other states.
Next time, get a clue before typing.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:23 am 85. David Thomson:“A couple weeks ago jharp responded to a comment directed at sheesh. I guess Mr. Sack of Hammers forgot to switch his handle over because he was in such a rush to post another one of his brilliant, informative points. I’d say loser is a fairly decent label for someone who creates multiple handles for themselves so that they can agree with each other.”
This is most interesting—and troubling. And if you are right—this poster must be banned.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:24 am 86. Commuter:‘Don’t want to be a myth-buster here, but folks living in American cities (even coastal, liberal ones) are just as authentically American as the country folk living out in the rural areas. To suggest otherwise is, well, un-American and offensive.’
Palin wasn’t suggesting otherwise. She was playing to a crowd in a rural area back in mid October or so using terms that politicians always have and always will. It’s the whole Jeffersonian thing and plays well in rural areas. She also apologized for any suggestion that her remarks meant to imply that non-rural people were not real americans. You might not accept the apology, but it was made.
You set up your strawman and opine on how nice it would be for Palin and similar-minded folks to acknowledge the homogeneous greatness of the country and citizenry. You might consider how the local trolling crew using terms like red necks, hillbillies, white trash and so on that reflects the same prevailing sick disdain that Dowd shows to Palin and similar-minded folks before indulging. That elitist disdain has been around a lot longer than mid-october.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:28 am 87. JFM:Mike W said: Beauty fades, but stupid is forever.
Stupid like talking about freedom of religion in Al Andalus during the inquisition (Obama)? Or discloding the location of where President and Vice-President would go in a crisis (Biden)? Or stupid like voting for such morons?
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:38 am 88. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:Touchy, touchy. It sucks having to drive that thing up those steep hills, don’t it?
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:40 am 89. maak:A question: Why do Liberals seem to get away with dissing Palin’s Alaskan home state when Obama comes from Indonesia and Hawaii? Do they think he just materialized as a grown-up at Occidental College in LA, then continued his education and life in big cities from there?
I think the “stupid” tag for Bush seemed to work OK for the Liberals so they’re using the same technique with Palin. Bush is not stupid, of course, but he/we didn’t do enough to counteract the myth. We can’t let them get away with it this time.
http://www.whatifthiswasw.com/
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:41 am 90. Strawman:And the reason you chose to keep doing that is precisely what?
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:41 am 91. IlikeIke:Elvis, funny then, that you wrote this: “Sarah Palin, along with many of us, are constantly acknowledge how great the USA is.”
after you wrote this: “Most big cities are in decline because they are run by democrats and produce nothing but contributing to the growing welfare state.”
Ummmm….is that your idea of “acknowledging how great the USA is?” First you claim, contrary to any evidence, that “most big cities are in decline” (not true) and then you claim they “produce nothing.”
“We’re just trying to stop the wholesale selling out and destroying the greatest country in the world. You on the other hand seem to be missing that point.”
No, you’re not, Elvis. You’re trying to separate “the greatest country in the world” into parts you like and parts you don’t like. Small towns, good. Big cities, bad.
I, for one, am tired of such fair-weather patriots. Love it or leave it, buddy. It’s not just a bumper sticker.
As for this: “and by the way…. have you heard the lordgod almighty OBAMA say anything positive about America EVER?”
Consider this, Elvis:
While Sarah Palin was talking about the “real Americans” holding it down as the liberal elites try to destroy this country, Barack Obama was saying, “there’s no red states or blue states. There’s only the United States.”
This obviously doesn’t jibe with your political loyalties, but one of those is a positive statement about America and one is not…
You pick which is which.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:45 am 92. therealist:Dowd is a “poison pen” columnist, just someone who revels in others misery and does whatever she can to brig it about and or prolong it. The fact that NYT employs her tells you a lot about the paper and I’m sure the egg her on to go after certain targets. You’ll never find an actual intelligent thought in her columns.
Palin has two problems, neither of which should matter to anyone. She’s pretty, and she’s not very articulate. But what she does have is passion and principle. There are a lot of parallels to Bush, of course, who was hated by the left and considered a dumb “frat boy”, something like a male bimbo I guess. But when something needed to be said, he said it, he meant it, and he did it. I don’t know if Palin is my first choice to be President in 2008 because I have a soft spot for Newt, hopefully the next comeback kid. However, I would be happier with her over just about any other Democrat or Republican I’ve seen.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:52 am 93. IlikeIke:86. Commuter: “Palin wasn’t suggesting otherwise.”
Thank you for clarifying that Sarah Palin didn’t mean what she said. As for her apology, I’ll tell her the same thing my parents told me as a youngster when I thought an apology washed away my sins: “Sorry doesn’t cut it.”
“You might consider how the local trolling crew using terms like red necks, hillbillies, white trash and so on that reflects the same prevailing sick disdain that Dowd shows to Palin and similar-minded folks before indulging.”
Um…I think my message applies to “the local trolling crew,” too. In case you missed that nuance, let me spell it out clearly:
“A garbage collector in Boise, ID is no more “real” or “American” than a garbage collector in San Francisco. Period.
A garbage collector in San Francisco, is no more “real” or “American” than a garbage collector in Boise, ID. Period.”
Boise and San Francisco are both equally American and real! Crazy, I know!!!!
Try and think beyond simplistic “I know you are, but what am I?” type thinking.
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:56 am 94. elvis:ok Mike W how does a bankrupt state like Calif that can’t pay it’s own bills send to red states. And show me the spread sheet of NY sending money to any state.
You say…
Case in point, liberal states New York and California send out 3 times as much in tax dollars to the Feds
ok, they have more people then right wing Miss. you’re “facts” are convoluted. Nice try.
that says nothing to my point that blue states are in decline because of how they run everything into the ground and keep growing the welfare state.
And actually I’m not lying MIke W… WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SHE MEANS BY REAL AMERICANS…. you just don’t like the fact that you aren’t one.
As far as me being a moron… I’ll match my IQ, degrees, resume, and accomplishments with you anytime!
Jul 8, 2009 - 11:57 am 95. jharp:“There is a good possibility that all three posts are written by the same person. If this is indeed the case, the individual is merely engaging in harassment and not dialogue. They should be banned.”
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it quite simple to check the IP address of each poster?
I see sheesh’s posts and they do a nice job of exposing the frauds. I’m not sure who the other poster you refer to is.
And someone is right, I did respond to a question posed to Sheesh. I just felt I had a good answer.
And the truth must be getting to you guys. Always falls back on baseless accusations, when the truth can be easily discovered, and whine about banning the ones who expose you as frauds.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:00 pm 96. blotto:MikeW: I really do like refuting your inane posts. You are talking about federal receipts from which the states with the highest incomes pay more than those states who do not have as high an income. So apples and oranges.
What you are trying to deflect is that those “blue” states in fact are liberal dominated; and those “blue” states have the biggest cities whose populations are dominated by poor blacks and legal/illegal Hispanics who live off the government dole. Take any major metro city: Houston, NYC, Detroit, LA all are in the red because they are largely dominated by those who live off welfare. Now in “red” states like in the Mid West, the states and major cities are not as dominated by the poor and therefore do not have as many, by percentage, on welfare. These people work for a living. Everybody knows this to be true.
Ms. Palin’s comments were about those of us who work and pay taxes versus those who do not work nor pay taxes. Which happens to break down along party lines and beliefs in America. We believe in one America and you in some mischaracterization of America.
If, because of your ideology, you cannot see that it is the “welfare state,” that is ruining cities and states, then you are everything you project toward us conservatives. Your faux righteous indignation is all too transparent.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:02 pm 97. Ms. Attitude:I see some commentors on here have been brainwashed by the media. A lot of people really think the quotes on SNL were real! The media didn’t even question Obama as hard as they questioned Palin. Even to this day Obama has the questions read before the interviews!! Palin made some errors with the MSM but Obama comes off as a rambling idiot without the teleprompter and Biden, well, duh!
I was fortunate enough to hear Mrs. Palin speak in public, there weren’t any teleprompters and she did an outstanding job; very coherent and made a great deal of sense. Why didn’t the MSM (Obama propaganda machine) air any of these speeches? Why didn’t they air the ones where Obama’s teleprompter gave out and he stuttered like an idiot?
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:12 pm 98. Strawman:The spittle is getting kinda deep here. Yuk. Troll spittle. Ew.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:22 pm 99. CopperheadCountry:Palin has it goin’ on! If she were a lib she would be queen by now! No bias out there>> nothing to see, move along, move along! I think a part of the problem is the left has a lot of mommy’s basement cyberwarriors that just have all day to surf and blog and can’t turn off the hate.And lots of attorneys on someone’s payroll… Just sayin’…
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:25 pm 100. Ms. Attitude:77. IlikeIke:
Will you please remind Obama of that fact. He seems to have forgotten “fly-over country” America. Most liberals think that the people that don’t live in big cities don’t exist and don’t matter. You don’t like Palin because of her statement, “real-Americans” yet you support Obama who, through his actions, doesn’t recognize these same Americans.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:26 pm 101. Mike W.:96. blotto: “If, because of your ideology, you cannot see that it is the “welfare state,” that is ruining cities and states, then you are everything you project toward us conservatives. Your faux righteous indignation is all too transparent.”
Oh, no, to the contrary, I do understand that the “welfare state,” is ruining cities and states. You apparently don’t seem to understand what a “welfare state” is.
These below are “welfare” states:
Mississippi $2.02(received per every dollar of taxes paid)
Alaska $1.84
Louisiana $1.78
West Virginia $1.76
North Dakota $1.68
Alabama $1.66
South Dakota $1.53
Kentucky $1.51
Virginia $1.51
And here are the blue states that foot the bill for Red state welfare:
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:28 pm 102. Marc Malone:New York $0.79 (received per every dollar of taxes paid)
California $0.78
Delaware $0.77
New Hampshire $0.71
Connecticut $0.69
Random notes on the comments.
Leave Marie Claude alone. She is French, but she’s on our side. Every now and then, her nationalistic pride causes her to say things we find a bit objectionable, but I think this is a good thing. People should feel that way. God knows, we should. Anyway, do not make fun of her English, as it is probably better than your second language.
Real Americans. Get over it. It wasn’t about you. If you’re a salt of the earth kind of guy, then you know what she was trying to communicate, and it doesn’t bother you. You know it’s about those preening in their ivory sinecures looking down their noses at the lesser mortals.
Tax dollars going to Red States. The Red States have open spaces… a lot of them. If we want room to expand in the future, we need to invest in infrastructure, like roads. Some of it is, however, pure pork… the Pubs selling out to get themselves re-elected.
Furthermore, try looking back at some old electoral maps and compare them to current maps. The deep-Blue States around the Great Lakes have been shedding population for decades. Whither away? Why, to the well-run Red States, of course. First the Pubs flee the Dem policies. Then, others begin to flee the disaster that is Dem policy.
Over the last few decades: WI is -1; MI is -4; IL is -6; IN is -2 (A Red State turning Blue); OH is -5; PA is -6: NY is -10! Not conincidentally, this is where the unions are strongest. They support the Dems unwaveringly, and help ruin business thereby. The jobs go elsewhere.
The Dems/Socialists are like a pestilence upon the land. They descend like locusts and despoil the land. Once the land is on its way to ruin, they begin to move on to other lands.
The amazingly stupid thing is, when they move to other States, they never change their thinking. It never occurs to them that the reason they had to uproot and move to a Red State is because of their voting habits. They continue to vote Dem, while taking advantage of the fruitfulness of the Red States. Slowly, Red States turn Blue, like CO, VA, NM, NV, IN. The despoiling commences.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:33 pm 103. Blarty Blarckleblart:Lotta hatred for Maureen Dowd on here. Is it because she has a real job?
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:35 pm 104. tjproudamerican:“Elvis”, not the great Elvis Presley, is everyone’s idea of a clown. He exhibits impotent rage, silly generalizations, pointless threats, and flat out bias.
It is no wonder that President Obama is a lock to win again in 2012: his enemies are idiots.
I bet Kathleen Lopez will not link to this column. It is silly to accuse people of being jealous of Sarah Palin’s looks if you want Sarah Palin to be taken seriously. If being at war with gravity, as we all are, causes Sarah Palin’s face to start sinking, it happens!, will you Palinista’s run away?
Not so-called “Elvis”. Not since the Lion in Wizaed of Oz has our Nation produced such a manly man.
((P.s., “Elvis”? VIAGRA! It will help you with your internet frends. Sorry, we liberals all have a lover who wasn’t downloaded, so we don’t understand your valor and deep courage….
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:36 pm 105. Fairbanks99:#13, David S, you’ve been at the Kool-Aid again! What weaknesses? Where has Sarah Palin failed? In fighting corruption in her own party – Frank Murkowski? In getting the gasline approved in Alaska after her predecessors trying for 30 years to do so? Sarah Palin as Mayor of Wasilla was more fit for President than the Supreme Teleprompter is today, Hell, my cat is more fit than Obama.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:38 pm 106. shau-jan:jack.”And the truth must be getting to you guys.”
you are here to talk smack,the ‘truth’ is an abstact notion to you.btw,nobody wants to ban that crackpot or any of the other assorted kooks,idiots,euroweenies,obamatrons and neo-gramscians.we could do without the mediocre,tasteless,back benchers who bring nothing to the conversation and only excel in wasting bandwith though.(hint,hint)
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:47 pm 107. elvis:#101and here is $4.00 for a beer Mike W … get yourself a beer. You sound like some of my colleagues at the college I teach at.
NYC is destroying the state of NY… everyone knows that except you!
thanks blotto for making some sense!
#102 Actually my second and third languages are pretty good!
If Marie Claude is on our side then I do apologize.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:49 pm 108. Ms. Attitude:101. Mike W.:
FYI: 2005 data is outdated.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:52 pm 109. IlikeIke:100. Ms. Attitude:
“Will you please remind Obama of that fact. He seems to have forgotten “fly-over country” America.”
I have no objections to this. This seems to be a perfectly reasonable view.
But then you write this:
“Most liberals think that the people that don’t live in big cities don’t exist and don’t matter.”
Um, that should have struck you as false as soon as you wrote it. Liberals live out in the country, too. (And, by the same token, conservatives are allowed to live in cities…and many do!)
What I am trying to explain is this:
This whole urban liberals versus rural conservatives formulation is false.
The “Real America” consists of white people from Alabama, black people from Georgia, Hispanic people from Texas, liberals in Harlem, free-market industrialists on Wall Street, Michael Moore and Jack Bauer.
The fairweather patriots can say they love this country with all of their heart, but when they start complaining about the urban liberals, you know their heart really isn’t in it.
Jul 8, 2009 - 12:57 pm 110. elvis:#91While Sarah Palin was talking about the “real Americans” holding it down as the liberal elites try to destroy this country, Barack Obama was saying, “there’s no red states or blue states. There’s only the United States.”
Yes the one he is trying to be tyrannical l KING of! And the two most useless words are “BARACK said”. So who cares what he said… it is who he is and what he is doing!
And my point about how great this country is .. is obvious. While it is great we are trying to stop the demise of it as maybe better expressed by #102
#104 tj…. you’re very funny… you say what you are. I have no rage and i don’t give idle threats.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:01 pm 111. john from cinncinatti:just because she (SP) isn’t as articulate as everyone here with an advanced degree, doesn’t mean she doesn’t have clarity of thought. it isn’t merit based is it? its about credentials. mine piles higher and deeper. i always heard that shit rolls down hill so i always thought, someone at the top must really be full of shit.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:11 pm 112. IlikeIke:110. elvis:
You are completely unhinged. (That’s not intended as an insult, but simple observation.)
“Yes the one he is trying to be tyrannical l KING of!”
Obama is, for better or worse — regardless of your opinion of the man– the legally elected President of the United States. But he’s trying to be a tyrannical king, huh?
Might want to look up the definition to “tyrannical” and “king.”
Although, you’re onto something here: “maybe better expressed by #102″
Yes, better expressed by my dog or a lump of coal or a crack in the sidewalk, too, since all you seem to offer is fact-free sputtering.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:17 pm 113. Strawman:Journalist is a “real job”? Put the bong down, NOW.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:23 pm 114. Ms. Attitude:109. IlikeIke:
Let me rephrase that: Most liberal POLITICIANS seem to forget flyover America.
I have friends who currently live in Boston and Hartford. One calls herself a socialist but not a liberal and the other could care less about politics. I live in a medium size southern town and grew up military. I lived in Illinois as an adult and experienced first hand the Chicago machine that ran the state and didn’t care one iota about the rest of the state. Even now the mayor of Chicago wants to build a new airport right in the middle of America’s bread basket.
If you look at an 2008 election map broken out by counties, Obama is right, there aren’t red and blue states. There is red country and blue cities.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/election/uscounties.html
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:26 pm 115. Blarty Blarckleblart:Journalist is a “real job”? Put the bong down, NOW.
Um, yeah. “Journalist” is a real job. It pays money, and they have schools for it and everything. Maureen Dowd has been successful at it for years. She’s not my taste, but apparently she satisfies her audience.
Sarah Palin, on the other hand, has failed or quit everything she’s ever tried. Which is fine, that’s her prerogative, but being a quitter hardly seems like an admirable trait.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:37 pm 116. heidi:Great article, THANKS!! Weird comments tho, has Obama let everyone out of the asylum? Or is it just paid dailykos trollers?
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:40 pm 117. Marie Claude:Marc Malone, I dub you as my Chevalier Servant sans peur et sans reproche
no need to belong to a radical or any party to have strong convictions and or to be patriotic.
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:43 pm 118. Marc Malone:#117 Marie Claude – Grande Madame, vous donnez moi une grande honneur. Je suis a votre service. Now, I just need a token, s’il vous plait. One of your dainties will do.
Jul 8, 2009 - 2:07 pm 119. Amelia:Palin definitely has the “it” factor. But when you look beyond the surface, you find a whited sepulcher. Andrew Sullivan has a list of 32 documented lies. That’s quite a few for someone who has been on the political scene such a short amount of time. It makes you wonder how many undocumented lies there are. Or about her lack of intelligence in allowing so many lies to be documented in the first place.
Another issue I have is her lack of judgement. Look into the story of Trig’s birth as told in her own words. Basically, she first ignored standard medical wisdom and flew from Alaska to Texas while in her 8th month. Then, while in Texas, she starts leaking amniotic fluid. Does she have a doctor examine her and make sure her baby is ok? No – first she attends a conference, gives a speech at the luncheon, flies back to Alaska, and then drives past 2 hospitals equipped with NICUs to have the baby at a small local hospital with no such facilities. Basically, she waited almost 24 hours after first leaking fluid before receiving medical attention. When I called my doctor to let him know I was leaking amniotic fluid, he had me come to the office immediately. Fortunately, everything turned out ok and the baby suffered no ill consequences. But things could have gone horribly wrong on that plane. This is not the type of person I want to trust with the nuclear security codes.
Jul 8, 2009 - 2:11 pm 120. elvis:ok ilikeike
i’m unhinged.
I have looked up king and tyrant.
Obama thinks he’s a king and thus far has acted like a tyrant(taking over the car industry…telling people how much they can make….etc.)
…. that is why is numbers are dipping everyday.
Legally elected? I’d like to see his birth certificate.
I’d also like to see the numbers on the real voter fraud in every major city in this country with Acorns help… etc.
I don’t think you can prove that he was “legally” elected.
But if you think Obama doesn’t think he’s a king because you can’t see the facts…. good for you.
As far as sputtering … you’re pretty good at it too
Jul 8, 2009 - 2:24 pm 121. Geoff:“Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it quite simple to check the IP address of each poster?”
Yes, if you’re the administrator.
“And someone is right, I did respond to a question posed to Sheesh. I just felt I had a good answer.”
I’ll bet. I mean, it’s not like trolls have ever taken advantage of a board with no registration requirements by creating a number of alter-egos to support each others postings and make their point of view seem more prevalent than it is, am I right?
“And the truth must be getting to you guys. Always falls back on baseless accusations, when the truth can be easily discovered, and whine about banning the ones who expose you as frauds.”
Let’s see, same writing voice, same nonsensical lowercase handle type, and a clear motive to engage in asshattery revealed within the content of the posts. Yep, it’s a big ol’ conspiracy to frame you. I know that this concept is foreign to a KosKiddie like you, but some website administrators like to have an open forum and not ban people for their ideologies, no matter how idiotic they might be. If the lack of censorship is bothering you, you could always head over to Kos and troll there, oh wait, Kos is an echo chamber that tolerates no dissent. My mistake.
Jul 8, 2009 - 2:50 pm 122. Kelly:I wonder how many people criticizing Ms. Palin have had the success of becoming a Mayor and then a Governor and then a V.P. candidate, not to mention a small business co-owner and at the same time a mom to a large family and a dedicated volunteer, and a great spokesperson for pro-life and many other causes (rather or not one agrees, is irrelevant), and a person strong enough to stand up and speak her mind in spite of what other people think…the list goes on.
Those criticizing her are quite simply – Losers.
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:01 pm 123. LivefromEPTexas:Man! as long as you all are in a circle…can you at least share the Tissue paper? Or wipe up with a mop? Sheesh!
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:06 pm 124. Strawman:Racist!!!
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:11 pm 125. sheesh:119. Amelia: . . . “Palin definitely has the “it” factor.”
You forgot a couple of letters.
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:18 pm 126. Pinch:Dowd’s twat is lined with razorblades
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:32 pm 127. ILikeIke:120. elvis:
I suspected you were a birther, Elvis. It’s only the birthers who pound this tyrant nonsense. Obama didn’t take over “the car industry.” He bailed out GM and fired the dude who brought them to the brink of bankruptcy. One can argue that this was a bad idea…but one cannot argue that this constitutes “taking over the car industry.”
As for telling people how much they can make, again, not happening. Oh, you mean putting caps on compensation for the CEOs of bailed out companies? Well cry me a river. If these failures want to make their millions, don’t come begging for handouts from Joe Q. Taxpayer. Do it the old fashioned way: earn it.
As for this: “I’d also like to see the numbers on the real voter fraud in every major city in this country with Acorns help…”
No you wouldn’t. You wouldn’t believe them if you did. In fact, you’d probably say that not only are the numbers fake, but they’re the product of a liberal media conspiracy (financed by George Soros no doubt) to turn this country into a socialist paradise.
You’re a birther, dude, and that’s what birthers do: Reject evidence, spin theories, and when the game is lost, don’t put the cards down and walk away…oh no, now is the time to double down.
Unhinged? Sorry…that was too kind.
Jul 8, 2009 - 3:37 pm 128. Amarissa:This is sooooo good! You really nailed Dowd!
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:04 pm 129. SusieQ:Thank you! You made my day!
My sisters and I post on several sites with different views on all. One thing we all agree on is we like Palin. We are tired of seeing her degraded in the press and by do nothing bloggers. Go talk about the men that have children with women they aren’t married to, run around on their wives, yet they represent our country.
There is an election in 2010. Maybe we will see the sleeping Americans wake up , go to a voting booth and actually vote.
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:06 pm 130. Tom:Hopefully, if Dowd touched a derringer, she would shoot herself with it, thus sparring us from her ditzy & bitchy complaints about Sarah Palin.
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:08 pm 131. ate mely:It seems to me that all the male Kennedys are psychopaths. To label them as good at all, is the opinion of a psychopath.
PJM use to be a conservative site. Not anymore. Too many leftists, libs trolls probably banned in other conservative sites. Even PJM articles are degenerating. Jeeeeeeez.
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:16 pm 132. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:Thanks for the report from the front. Going off to some R&R in Afghanistan, now?
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:17 pm 133. masha:The Cobra doesn’t need a shotgun to shoot women. She uses her pen (or computer if she can find it)
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:19 pm 134. tjproudamerican:So called “elvis”, a threat made over the internet is an idle threat.
You are impotent and rage-filled, and you cannot beat anyone up. period.
The fact that you threaten to do so, shows that you are an impotent idiot, by definition. I feel sorry for your students, but my guess is that you teach shop. So you probably have broken many a show student made lamp in your distinguished career.
Threats threats threats = impotence. It is simple, little guy. Not since the Cowardly Lion have I seen such silliness and obvious inability to follow through. I hope you don’t threaten Toto, as Dorothy wields a mean slap.
If you have a so-called “wife”, I bet she is like your internet name, made up and inappropriate.
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:33 pm 135. Sunglasses on a cloudy day:115. one of my own.
At least Obama’s no quitter,
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:48 pm 136. elvis:just ask his pack of smokes.
#127 hahahaha
i like how you make up who i am… but since you want to play that game…
i suspect you’re a socialist or worse. keep supporting the tyrant then.
You are my enemy, that I know.If that makes me unhinged.. so be it!
Thankfully some of America is waking up from the damage of the media and George Soros as evidenced by Obams tumbling approval numbers.
Go Palin!
Jul 8, 2009 - 4:57 pm 137. abi:the same people, over and over again..all day long it seems.
Do you have any jobs other than with Soros?
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:26 pm 138. Middleman:Marc,
Jul 8, 2009 - 5:46 pm 139. Kabud:Well run red-states?! hahahaha! I have lived in this red-state for 20 years(it USE to be a blue state BTW). We have three of the fastest growing cities in the US within our metropolitan area, and let me tell you, it’s far from well run. Its a damn mess, just like every other state. The migration of business and population south has more to do with cheap land and room to build more than some mythical well-oiled red state machine. The Red States luxury is sparse populations and open space. When they lure people in, they’ll end up having the same problems Blue states have because population has needs and growing infrastructures need to be maintained.
Well of course Sarah IS NOT FAT. And for many females it is a CRIME!!!
but putting jokes aside:
Major reason for hating Sarah is of course the fact that The Center of subversion SAID SO very early in the game and the agents of influence took the order for execution:
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russiatoday.com ^ | 05 September, 2008 | russiatoday.com
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:41:31 PM by Kabud
THIS VERY STRANGE REPORT WAS PUBLISHED BY KGB CONTROLLED RUSSIAN SOURCE. IT IS DISTURBING TO THE CORE
McCain’s running mate lays into Russia
05 September, 2008, 08:26
Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin has wasted no time in casting a cloud over Russia. In her keynote speech to the party convention in Minnesota, the Alaskan Governor accused Moscow of using energy as a weapon in its disagreements with the West.
PALIN:
“With Russia wanting to control a vital pipeline in the Caucasus, and to divide and intimidate our European allies by using energy as a weapon, we cannot leave ourselves at the mercy of foreign suppliers,” Palin told supporters in St Paul.
The speech was crucial to the relatively unknown Republican, and her way of finally introducing herself to U.S. voters.
The pro-life, social conservative, received a thunderous reception from convention goers. But out on the streets, voters were quick to reject her credibility and social conservative views.
Thousands of opponents of the Republicans took their message to the streets this week. Repeated clashes between police and demonstrators led to hundreds of arrests, which critics say were unjustified.
Showing solidarity, activists set up a 24-hour vigil outside the jailhouse where civilians, journalists and medical personal were kept behind bars.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:06 pm 140. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:This might almost be worth card check, to see Soros have to deal with a union. Can you imagine one of the trolls filing a grievance because one of us nasty neocon rednecks said something that wasn’t nice? I’d be more than happy to create a hostile work environment.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:21 pm 141. Umm...no:Beautiful? Um. NO. WELL-PRESERVED for her AGE? Definitely. Come on people– just because I’m Republican doesn’t mean I have to fawn all over anything that is presented to me in the liberal media as “beautiful.” Give me a break.
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:22 pm 142. elvis:# 134 you can think all you want tj proud american????? but you just go on and on with tedious descriptions about yourself. You really work to hard, you have said nothing but throw insults at everyone. Which is typical for the liberal rage.
All your posts proved my first point, which seems to put you in the running for the regional David Letterman award. You’re not funny, you’re always in bad taste,show signs of perversion and you have no manners. Your intellect is wanting by your choice of stories that appeal to an adolescent view.(another sign of an immature liberal) Which again you have said nothing.
#73 As for what you call a threat… I said, if you said anything like that to my wife I would wipe the floor up with you. That’s just a fact. Not a threat. Because I’m a gentleman and you aren’t… and everyone on this thread knows you’re not.
#104 BTW since you stated all you liberals have lovers that aren’t downloaded…we conservatives have heard you find them in Barney Franks basement… tell me that’s not true TJ, please.
BTW… does Palin run a prostitution ring out of her basement and pretend not to know?
just askin’…. good night TJ… seet dreams!
Jul 8, 2009 - 6:24 pm 143. tjproudamerican:dear little Elvis,
Everyone in this thread knows you are a tongue-tied, impotent, rage-filled idiot who makes pointless threats.
I assume you have taught many a man a lesson for insulting your wife, well, a. I doubt it, and b. that does not say much for your wife. Do pepole often insult her?
Also, where do you live, Serbia?
Do you often beat people? There was Serial Killer who was just shot dead who shared your passion for terror, although, again, I think you are a shut-in who emulates and envies people who beat others when they are losing arguments.
I would feel sorry for you, but I know you believe ACORN and George Soris are out to get you.
Idiot idiot idiot and impotent, for certain.
You teach supposedly in college (kollege?). Do you beat your students?
Do you beat your wife if she insults herself.
What a joke you are. BTW, if you get sent to prison, you probably believe in Prison Rape, so why not eleminate the middle man and embrace your fate?
You are a supreme example of the Right Wing, pointlessly violent, enraged, impotent, and full of threats like the Cowardly Lion.
You remind me of St. Francis, the Sissy.
I assume you knuckle people all the time, so tel us how you stay out of jail?
You cannot win any argument with an empty head. I guess you are Tin Man, Cowardly Lion, and I know it is an insult to call you The Scarecrow, because The Scarecrow actually DID know how to think.
May your dreams be filled with insults to your “wife” and you comically beating people “Because you are a gentleman.” No wonder you think Palin quit because she is not a quitter.
It is too easy to show what a jackass mentality infects the so-called Republican Party.
I don’t believe for a minute the Eunuch Army of shut-ins represents real conservatives any more than I think Palin is a leader.
Jul 8, 2009 - 7:59 pm 144. davidt:If there really are paid trolls then:
1. They probably get paid according to the number of responses they get. Don’t feed the trolls.
2. They would probably be more the astro-turfing moby type rather than the demented flamethrower type. Be vigilent.
Most of the demented flamethrowers are just seeking attention, ie responses. Don’t feed the trolls.
In the event a troll says something that must be responded to, comment ABOUT it, never TO it. Never directly address the troll with the responses it craves. This drives them even more nuts than they already are. Don’t feed the trolls.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:52 pm 145. Marc Malone:#138 Middleman – Red state which used to be Blue? Pre-Carter, I guess. TX, maybe? Sounds about right. Wouldn’t be the Houston area, would it? Now, there’s a mess! Would it be run by Dems, then? The ten worst-off cities in the country are run by Dems. Uncoincidentally, they have huge minority populations.
I will correct myself. Well-run was a bad choice of words. There is no such thing as well-run government. Business-friendly Red States. Yeah, that’ll do.
Jul 8, 2009 - 8:57 pm 146. Marc Malone:I think that a better explanation of why Lib women hate Palin is that she has it all. She is the very model of the 60’s vision of feminism. She can have the family, a great hubby, and a great career.
The modern feminist is the spinster redux – lonely, man-hating, and miserable. Palin’s mere existence demonstrates the emptiness of THEIR existence. All their decisions to get to where they are, pursuing their career at the expense of husband and family, maybe an abortion or two, only to end up with a big, fat zero in happiness, are demonstrated to be foolishness.
“Who needs men?” is demonstrated to the whole nation to be a fraud. All the things they valued being – chic, sophisticated, urbane, high-maintenance – are demonstrated to be cheap copies of the real thing. Even if they have a man, he’s some cheap copy, too.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:11 pm 147. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:Thanks a lot for starting rumor #143. By tomorrow, that will be irrefutable fact.
Jul 8, 2009 - 9:20 pm 148. Sunglasses on a cloudy day:143. tjpoudcommunist.
Everyone in this thread knows you are a wind-bagging, self-centered, immoral, know-it-all idiot who makes pointless points.
I assume you have taught many a man a lesson for insulting your ideology, well, a. I doubt it, and b. that does not say much for your communism. Do people often insult it?
Also, where do you live, The Beltway?
Do you despise children? There was a baby who was just aborted who shared your passion for life, although, I don’t think it’s sane to put political ideology before life, but, I guess for Democrats, children cut into their “me” time.
I would feel sorry for you, but I know you believe ACORN and George Soros are going to help you.
Wait, wait, wait and nothing, what did you expect?
You went to kollege? Well, you’re good enough, you’re special enough, and, dog gone it, people like you. (note to Al Franken: Tom was funnier than you, but I guess you already knew that.)
Why are you so fixated on wife-beating?
God, did you ever write some twisted crap in this paragraph:
(written by 143 tjproudcomunist: What a joke you are. BTW, if you get sent to prison, you probably believe in Prison Rape, so why not eleminate the middle man and embrace your fate?)
You are a supreme example of the Communists, pointlessly envisioning prison rape scenes.
You are obsessed with worshipping the “strawman”.
And so fixated on jail.
That’s just creepy.
And fixated on wife beating?
It is too easy to see what a jackass mentality infects the so-called Democratic Party.
It’s sad that the trolls represent “real” democrats.
Jul 9, 2009 - 1:48 am 149. Fred Beloit:“Blarty Blarckleblart:
Lotta hatred for Maureen Dowd on here. Is it because she has a real job?”
What, you call typing insults about others a real job?
Jul 9, 2009 - 6:06 am 150. Emilio L:Oh, sorry, Blarty, that is YOUR job isn’t it?
The media’s hateful obsessive criticsm of Sarah Palin will only rally her supporters. This will ensure the success of her outsider strategy: http://stonezone.com/
Jul 9, 2009 - 7:43 am 151. Blarty Blarckleblart:What, you call typing insults about others a real job?
Oh, sorry, Blarty, that is YOUR job isn’t it?
Yep. Soros pays me in sweet, sweet Nazi gold.
Jul 9, 2009 - 7:55 am 152. Fred Beloit:Good for you, Blarty, gold will be useful when you return home to Zimbabwe.
Jul 9, 2009 - 8:39 am 153. Blarty Blarckleblart:Good for you, Blarty, gold will be useful when you return home to Zimbabwe.
It sure will. Elephants are only 5 SorosBux there.
Jul 9, 2009 - 8:50 am 154. AlexinCT:#101. Mike W.:
Mike, may I remind you that the reason those “blue” states end up having their money sent elsewhere is precisely the moronic collectivist ideology you subscribe to. Think of it as some more of that “social justice” the left so loves, you biggot. And at the rate things are going I have a feeling these “blue” states are all going to implode anyway.
Jul 9, 2009 - 10:54 am 155. rbell:They hate really you. They don’t hate Sarah Palin. She is just a stand in for people like yourself. She says things like “Betch ya” and winks. Do you think any of those dried up prunes have done either? What would you do if Maureen Dowd winked at you? Throw up? Me too.
She has sex appeal. They don’t. She appeals to real men, they don’t. She has accomplished something, they haven’t. Oh they are big in their fields but they are in fields that few of us ever venture into. You have to start out there to get there. They are in the DC cocktail party crowd where everyone does verbal fellatio on everyone else. Pretentious people void of any intellect feeling good about themselves. Thank God we are not like other people.
No they don’t like Sarah and they don’t like you. The fact that you all can vote is depressing to them. So they try to brow beat anyone who gets close to their hemisphere without the right credentials. A real working class woman with a real husband does not belong in their world an neither do you. That is why they become so unhinged, both Democrats and Republicans. Hey are you listening to me?
Jul 9, 2009 - 11:42 am 156. Blarty Blarckleblart:Oh they are big in their fields but they are in fields that few of us ever venture into.
Whereas most of us, at one time or another, run for governor and vice-president.
Jul 9, 2009 - 11:58 am 157. Old Sailor:I have managed large groups that were almost exclusively male and similar groups that were predominately female. There are different dynamics between the two groups.
Males tend to either excel or fail on their own and are chided by their peers if they don’t carry their load. Males want the boss’ approval but generally keep it to business.
Females tend to undercut other women rather than mentor them as I have seen males do. I have mentored several women and it almost inevitably results in sniping by the other women. Females seek the male boss’ approval almost as if he was their father. Things are done for the boss that no guy would do. They are not requested but do show up.
I have discussed this with my wife who works as a supervisor. She has elaborated on it and added some insight I didn’t have about jealousy between women and how they try to torpedo each other to get ahead with the boss. Between us, we have about seventy years in a supervisory capacity and have had hundreds of employees/subordinates.
That said; I have had to dismiss males more frequently than females for poor job performance. Male or female, I have counseled with people who weren’t performing up to par. Many males ignore the counseling while females seem more amenable to suggestions to improve their performance. In terms of work quality between the genders, I would say it is a wash. My evidence is only anecdotal rather than a scientific study but discussions with other managers both male and female tend to support my observations.
Men I have fired have occasionally thanked me later. That is surprising but some actually realized that they had a problem. I have never had a positive experience in a dismissal of a female. If we meet two decades later, there is animosity. I have felt animosity in the case of a dismissal on only one occasion and that was when the person involved was defrauding the organization willfully. Well, actually two occasions. There was a case of theft and I was annoyed but remained cool as I fired the culprit.
In any line of work, people need mentors. They can be a more experienced or older co-worker or even a supervisor. I have mentored both men and women but have seen few cases of women mentoring other women. That is just my observation and not a demonstrable scientific fact.
Jul 9, 2009 - 1:22 pm 158. tjproudamerican:dear Sunglasses
“Elvis” threatened to “mop the floor with me”. I tried to tell him that Assault, Battery, and Attempted Homicide are crimes.
I could not care less about George Soros, ACORN, or “communism”. Those are Right Wing Obsessions that most Americans are too busy living our lives to care about.
If “Elvis” went to prison for beating someone, “Mopping the floor with” that person would qualify as Atrocious Felonious Assault in my state and Attempted Homicide, plus there is no guarantee that the adversary you are “wiping the floor with” in administering a beating, he would be subject to prison rape, which Americans think is part of the Prison Experience.
As far as Al Franken, it is definitely a “Mega-ditto’s Rush” article of Right Wing Conformity (did you know President Obama uses a Teleprompter? did you know, that like President George W. Bush Obama calls it The Fourth of July) that “Franken is not funny.”
The Abortion claim is simply unintelligible, since I never said anything about Abortion.
If you want to know why Obama is a lock in 2012, look at your issues, Teleprompter, non-Hypocrisy, ACORN/Soros (two issues Americans could not care less about) and Sarah-Worship.
Please do not change or learn to speak to Americans! Thx
::hugs::
Jul 9, 2009 - 2:18 pm 159. Marc Malone:#157 Old Sailor – Your great life experience is worth more than any scientific study. There are things we process in our subconscious that eventually we can access. The conclusions drawn are usually spot on. They are part of your success. You and your spouse have not successfully managed for 70 years without gaining some superior insight into this subject of people.
Jul 9, 2009 - 2:30 pm 160. Middleman:145. Marc Malone,
Jul 9, 2009 - 2:37 pm 161. Marie Claude:Actually Dallas. Houston is just an armpit. Minorities or not, when you have an urban area with a large population, it’s going to end up blue because the more people, the more problems. Those people need to be policed, educated, travel to work, and be treated at hospitals. That being said, all our little red suburbs aren’t without their problems. The one I went to school in was deep red, but was the teen suicide and heroin capital.
umm, I have worked with both genders, had been mentored by a few women too, who were excellent because they were intelligent, though it’s true that the mainstream of women undercut each others. But men aren’t better, I found them more shooe-polishers and hypocrit. I didn’t mind whoever was the boss, but he/she had to be intelligent, otherwise I was some kind of rebel
Jul 9, 2009 - 3:01 pm 162. Sunglasses on a cloudy day:158. tjproudamerican
You really focus a lot of your attention on prison rape.
I guess that explains why you don’t have time to not care less about George Soros, ACORN, or “communism”.
Jul 9, 2009 - 6:46 pm 163. LiVon:The putdowns by liberals and particularly by women liberals of a viable woman candidate is one reason this country trails other nations in not having yet elected a woman president. The added fact that Palin is conservative and have traditional family values just goes against the liberal feminist image that Democrates & liberals want to put on a pedestal. As a result, having seen the media and more so the liberal media treatment of conservative women political figures mean that progress for attainment of higher political office is a long way away.
Jul 10, 2009 - 12:00 pm 164. Jim Baker:They hate Palin because she is a member of the Republican Party. They need no other reason. Republicans, in general, scare the hell out of them because, if elected, Republicans can actually slow down the leftist agenda. They should not fear Republicans, because Republicans will never reverse the growth of government. At their best, they can only temporarily arrest this cancerous political growth.
Jul 10, 2009 - 12:10 pm 165. Grace Farmer:I don’t like Sarah Palin because she presents herself in an unprofessional manner. Her speech continually sprinkled with ‘local jargon’ as well as her maddening habit of winking serve to discredit women in business. As a business owner, with a team of males I can assure you that they as my team and board members would not tolerate me behaving like ‘Sarah’.
Jul 10, 2009 - 1:10 pm 166. Banned by Huffpo:Good ‘ol Joe Biden during the debates:
• “John McCain voted against a Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty that every Republican has supported,” Biden stated. (Actually, in a 1999 vote in Congress, McCain sided with 50 other Republicans to kill the treaty. Only four joined the Democrats.)
• “Pakistan already has deployed nuclear weapons,” Biden said. “Pakistan’s weapons can already hit Israel and the Mediterranean.” (Pakistan has no known intercontinental missiles. The range of its weapons is thought to be 1,000 miles – halfway to Israel.)
• “When we kicked — along with France — we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t…Hezbollah will control it.’” Biden recalled. “Now what’s happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.” (Except that the U.S. never kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon or anywhere else. They’ve been entrenched in Lebanon since 1982. Actually, Hezbollah, insofar as it was responsible for the 1983 suicide bombing at the Marine barracks that killed 241 U.S. servicemen, kicked America out of Lebanon, not the other way around.)
• “The president…insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, ‘Big mistake. Hamas will win. You’ll legitimize them.’ What happened? Hamas won,” Biden said. (Only the last two words of Biden’s strange soliloquy are true. The rest are false. For one thing, Fatah controls the West Bank. Biden was thinking of Gaza. Secondly, neither Biden nor Obama predicted the 2006 victory for Hamas in Gaza’s legislative elections. Third, McCain and Obama – but not Biden — signed a letter urging the president to pressure Palestinians to require that candidates adhere to democratic principles before being allowed to run for office. Fourth, Biden served as an election observer and later wrote an article expressing high praise for Bush’s actions. To sum up: One factual error and three fibs in only 31 words. Pretty impressive, in its way.)
• “With Afghanistan, facts matter…we spend more money in three weeks on combat in Iraq than we spend on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan. Let me say that again…” (He did say it again, but that didn’t make it true. It’s wildly and weirdly off the mark. Yes, facts matter. The facts here were that at the time Biden was speaking, the U.S. had spent $172 billion in Afghanistan. The Iraq War consumes between $7 billion and $8 billion every three weeks. Biden’s math was off by 2,000 percent.)
• “Can I clarify this? This is simply not true about Barack Obama. He did not say (he’d) sit down with Ahmadinejad.” (He most certainly did. And among those who criticized him at the time for it was Joe Biden, who told Byron York of National Review that the idea of a president meeting with the likes of the Iranian president or Hugo Chavez was “naVve.”)
Those were alarming mistakes. To me Biden’s most discordant claims concerned his Animal House-like history lecture about the office of the vice president. It came while Biden was dressing down Dick Cheney, who was not present, for supposedly being unfamiliar with the Constitution. “The idea (that) he doesn’t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States – that’s the executive branch – he works in the executive branch,” Biden said. “He should understand that. Everyone should understand that. And the primary role of the vice president of the United States is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and, as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there’s a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit….He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he’s part of the legislative branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive, and look where it has gotten us.”
Lord, would Tina Fey have had fun with this jumble of misinformation – if only Palin had said it! Article I defines the legislative, not executive, branch. The vice president is, indeed, mentioned there. What Biden finds “explicit,” hasn’t been so to previous vice presidents or to most constitutional scholars. Prior to the 20th century, vice presidents didn’t even have offices at the White House compound – they were housed in the Capitol. The notion that a veep’s constitutional authority is to provide advice to a president springs from Biden’s brow; it certainly isn’t mentioned, or even contemplated, in the Constitution, which doesn’t even say whether the vice president should receive a salary.
Should Joe Biden have known this stuff? Since he chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee, you’d hope so. But even if he didn’t, you’d think it would be news when he unleashed a veritable fount of misinformation to impugn Palin’s knowledge of the federal system while attacking a sitting vice president. It barely rated a mention in the collective mainstream media.”
Thanks, Newsbusters!
Jul 10, 2009 - 1:19 pm 167. Marc Malone:#165 Grace Farmer – You’re right, it would not be tolerated in business… but, good heavens, she’s not in business! Try to think outside the box of your little world! There is a certain amount of the showbiz aspect in politics. Her folksiness and touch of flirtiness serve her well. It is part of her appeal to the common man.
(Btw, if a good-looking man winked at the crowd, he might be flirting, too, but that would be okay, wouldn’t it? You have been indoctrinated. Please wake up.)
At a time when the elite (who think like you, btw) are running our country into the ground, it may be time to think a little differently. Professionalism is the uniform YOU wear to work, but we wear different uniforms in different occupations.
There was a lot of noise about the clothes she wore during the campaign. The Pubs dressed her up. The media criticized her for it. However, if she continued to wear her thrift store clothes, they’d've sneered at her all the more. Which way is it for you, Ms. Farmer? You deride her for being folksy and flirty, but do you really want another cookie-cutter, same-old-same-old, no-integrity, self-serving politician?
Fact is, you like so many, are merely justifying your disdain for her background, instead of evaluating her character. I like her because she is someone who got where she is by bucking the system, not by going along and playing the game. I want someone who will buck the broken system. It’s the only way to reform it. She may not be as educated as I’d like, but she has the character we need at this time. At another time, I would not back her candidacy, but now, we need real reform. She’s about reform.
Jul 10, 2009 - 2:04 pm 168. Marc Malone:#160 Middleman – You are right about Houston, and about rural areas. Lots of idle hands becoming the Devil’s playthings.
It does not follow axiomatically that cities become Blue because of all the needs. The needs are all the same, just on a larger scale. Cities do, however attract people who are more marginal. They often become Dems. There are many Red cities, and they are more functional.
When NYC got fed up with all the Blue problems, they elected Giuliani. He cleaned up a lot of it. Was it all fixed? No, but it was better off. Louisiana went Red after Katrina. It is still a mess, but improving rapidly. Jindal may be dweeb-tastic, but he is a very competent dweeb… and a Conservative Republican.
Conservative principles work. Unfortunately, as soon as we fix things, people get the crazy idea that we can now afford to do this, that, and the other for the “underprivileged”. Then, the rot begins again. Rinse and repeat.
Carter messed things up badly. Reagan, a Conservative fixed it. Bush 41, a moderate, raised taxes and began the slide. Clinton continued it. Gingrich, a Conservative, took over Congress and fixed it. (Clinton took the credit.) Bush 43, a moderate/liberal, was mixed. When he cut taxes (Conservatism), the economy did well. When he spent (not Conservativism), things went badly. A bit simplistic, but the trend is clear.
So, did I get your State right, at least (TX)?
Jul 10, 2009 - 2:21 pm 169. Good News!r:Sarah Palin for RNC chair?!
Forbes has an interview with Shannyn Moore. Here’s the last question:
Forbes: There is talk that Sarah Palin may replace outgoing Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele. Do you know anything about this?
Moore: I’ve heard talk about it, but at this point it’s just a rumor.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/10/shannyn-moore-sarah-palin-business-media-moore.html
Howard Dean flamed out spectacularly in 2004 and came roaring back as the grassroots hero DNC Chair who flipped the House and Senate two short years later.
Just sayin’.
Jul 10, 2009 - 5:46 pm 170. KansasGirl:Red states problems begin when the bluers move in and infect us with their socialism. I wish libs would just stay put.
Jul 11, 2009 - 5:50 am 171. palin:palin is a racist
Jul 26, 2009 - 11:14 pm