Drunkblogging ObamaCare
Stephen Green listened carefully to President Obama's press conference on health care — trying to determine whether care of his vodka-challenged liver will be covered. (Watch PJTV's virtual health care forum here.)
4:48PM I’m watching Fox News tonight, instead of the usual CNN. Why? Because DirecTV makes it easy to remember FNC (Channel 360, get it?), but CNN (Channel 2…something) not so much. We’re 12 minutes out, and I’m in desperate need of a second martini. Back momentarily.
4:48PM Oh, and all times Pacific, it seems.
4:49PM Also liveblogging, Dr. Melissa Clouthier. She tells me she might be drinking. Or wishes she was. Or something.
4:53PM Yes, you can already read the bulk of the President’s remarks online. But that’s cheating, and I won’t do it. But I will go pour that second martini now.
4:58PM Juan Williams says President Obama won’t “focus on the nitty gritty.” In other news, I won’t be focusing on club soda with a twist of lemon.
5:01PM OK, here’s one tiny little early preview for you: “It’s all Bush’s the Republicans’ Blue Dog Democrats’ Oops, can’t say that the Republicans’ fault.”
5:02PM The President is on.
5:03PM “We’ve saved jobs! We can’t count them, but trust us!”
5:04PM The US isn’t prepared to compete in the 21st Century? How many more industries do we need to nationalize before we’re ready to compete in the 19th?
5:05PM I still don’t get where this guy has the nerve to say that he’s going to save money on anything, and reduce the deficit by one thin dime. Has he not seen his own waste, fraud, and red ink?
5:05PM “How does my family benefit?” We’re working on it. Now sit down and shut up.
5:06PM Now as I understand it, the “public option” will dictate what the private options must offer, and how much they must charge. So how do I keep my existing coverage again?
5:06PM “Primarily for the richest Americans.” The word “primarily” is new, yes?
5:07PM Oh, so I benefit because I’ll get a crappy plan, but my neighbor up the hill in the better neighborhood will pay for it.
5:08PM Eliminate Medicare waste! That’s fine. So why not start there?
5:08PM When you hear a politician bemoaning the horse race aspect of politics, it’s because he’s losing the argument.
5:09PM “I have great coverage.” Fine, Mr. President. Then either YOU take OUR public option, or give US your coverage. Mmmkay?
5:10PM “We will pass reform that does four contradictory things.” Or at least that’s what I heard him say.
5:10PM Now, the press gets its turn.
5:11PM First question boiled down to: Where’s the leadership?
And then there was talk about premiums.
5:11PM Other advanced countries don’t eat quite so many Chee-Tohs, Mr. President.
5:12PM First impression: He’s talking details and numbers. This is lousy salesmanship. Health care ain’t double-pane windows, Mr. President.
5:14PM And, he’s still selling this as a tax-the-rich scheme. But the numbers don’t add up, even according to the CBO.
5:15PM “Waste in the system?” Dude, in government programs, that’s a feature, not a bug.
5:16PM “If we don’t change, we can’t expect a different result.” OK, fine. Since government has been driving up prices, let’s have less of that instead of more. Just sayin’.
5:17PM More bad salesmanship: Telling folks they won’t get “five different tests.” Most people want the damn tests.
5:18PM From Reuters: “Why the rush?… Will support collapse?”
5:18PM He’s rushed because he gets letters. Is anyone buying this?
5:19PM “The default position is inertia.” It’s Newtonian politics! Only without the math!
5:20PM “I’m not going to sign a bill that adds to the deficit.” Well, that would be a really nice change from the last six months.
5:22PM He keeps talking about “health care inflation.” But inflation is when the same dollars buy you less, or more dollars buy you the same stuff. Isn’t health care improving every year? If we dial back prices, won’t we be dialing back care?
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1. k. pablo:Maybe this will be the press conference where the press wakes up? Yes, I’ve had a few already…
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:01 pm 2. jharp:“Watch PJTV’s virtual health care forum here”
Is Joe The Plumber gonna be participating?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:01 pm 3. k. pablo:He always looks like he sucked down a blue popsicle.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:07 pm 4. frank martin:Did he just say ” and I mean it?”
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:08 pm 5. Brooks:I’m watching NBC and his eyes teeth and ears are glinting very shiney white. What’s that about?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:09 pm 6. Rachel:why is it on so early for pacific time and not recorded and shown later for them? I would think westerners would be too tired and cranky from work to hear him – even his biggest fans
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:10 pm 7. Garrett:Government. Efficiency.
Pick one.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:16 pm 8. Elroy Jetson:I can’t bear to watch him. Thank you, Stephen for watching for me.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:17 pm 9. Allston:Geez, Stephen, after reading that, I need a drink too.
wandering off in search of a neat Scotch…
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:17 pm 10. obknockious:they wouldn’t let him bump america’s got talent.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:19 pm 11. ER White:Was that a look of Adoration on the guy with the beard who asked the question on timeline?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:19 pm 12. Garrett:Am I a bad man if I long for the days of Bill Clinton. I’d even tolerate Hillary if we could erase the coming 3.5 years. Sob.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:21 pm 13. ER White:Check out the Debt clock… It will triple if we pass Obamacare
http://www.bloggybayou.com/2009/07/debt-clock.html
Also, Obama is filibustering…. less questions that way
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:21 pm 14. e:Got a chill down my spine when he said, “You’ll get the best healthcare, just not the most expensive healthcare.”
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:22 pm 15. PatAZ:Of course he is getting letters, saying don’t do it. That why there is a rush to pass this piece of baloney.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:22 pm 16. ER White:That was the most incoherent question I have ever heard…..
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:23 pm 17. Elroy Jetson:Who was the guy with the beard?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:24 pm 18. Garrett:Lol. How the heck did I end up in moderation? Uh Steve, FidoNet homie.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:24 pm 19. ER White:Foot amputation? Penis enlargement?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:25 pm 20. ER White:You blamed the republicans in your opening remarks…………
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:26 pm 21. ER White:RINO’S to the rescue!
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:26 pm 22. PatAZ:Susan Boyle is more attractive than O.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:26 pm 23. Rachel:Thanks for the answer, Mr. Green
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:27 pm 24. ER White:Every one whose eyes are glazing over from wonkiness say aye!
Aye….
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:28 pm 25. Garrett:Alternating between you and Arrested Development on Hulu. A double dose of biting satire! And I seriously like the Bluths better than this administration…
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:28 pm 26. ER White:It’s going to be free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Alfred E. Neuman approach: What, me Worry!!?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:29 pm 27. e:Because additional tests to ensure treatment is correct is bad?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:29 pm 28. Brooks:Paying for things that don’t make them healthier. Isn’t what what we do every time a democrat gets a vote?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:30 pm 29. k. pablo:Give the guy credit. Dems used to offer something for nothing. Now they offer everything for nothing!
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:30 pm 30. steeple:too bad you can’t call a timeout during a press conference when things aren’t going so well
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:34 pm 31. ER White:Not one word about tort reform… If you don’t first start with tort reform with health care reform, you are not serious about the subject….
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:36 pm 32. frank martin:Gee, What happened to his Mojo?
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:37 pm 33. ER White:Give it time, wait for stagflation…70’s on Steroids…..
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:42 pm 34. ER White:Obama reads a great speech… on his own, he sounds like a drunk or stoned sophmore… I know.. I was one once….
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:44 pm 35. frank martin:Im so glad he decided to become a lawyer and not a doctor of proctology
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:45 pm 36. k. pablo:So … taking the profit motive out is going to incentivize the private sector?? Huh???
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:48 pm 37. rbj:“Or with cloven-hooved animals.”
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:48 pm 38. ER White:Hey, hands off my wives!
A personal story on Nationalized healthcare
http://www.bloggybayou.com/2009/05/on-national-healthcare-personal-story.html
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:51 pm 39. tom:Meanwhile United Healthcare makes billions. Nice system.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:52 pm 40. ER White:And you’re about the gov’t deciding who gets what procedure? Ever dealt with Medicare compared to a private health insurance company? please.
He should not comment on this… Police are saying the professor resisted arrest…when a cop tells you to do something… you do it… Unless you want special treatment for some and not for others…
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:56 pm 41. Delia:That picture for this blog has me LMFAO!!!!!!!
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:56 pm 42. Walter Sobchak:re: “The Dude will ‘largely abide.’”
You mark that 8 and you are entering a world of pain… A World of Pain!
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:58 pm 43. Delia:P.S. Dude [can I call you that?], your effing drunk blog rawks!
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:58 pm 44. frank martin:I have this image of Dick Cheney sitting at home in Wyoming saying in his best mock Dr. Evil accent “Ive stolen your Mojo Austin Powers!”.
What the hell was that? That was staqggeringly bad.
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:58 pm 45. Habu:I noted there has been no question why the senators,congressmen and executive branch have the platinum health plans provided. If his health
Jul 22, 2009 - 5:59 pm 46. rbj:plan is so great it should surely include them to show their approval
“Juan Williams calls it “a lost opportunity” and doesn’t expect the August deadline to be met.
Or as we say on the internets: EPIC FAIL.”
Let us hope so.
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:00 pm 47. PatAZ:Thanks, Steve. This was so much better than actually having to watch and listen to teh won. I wouldn’t have anyway.
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:00 pm 48. ER White:Say goodnight Gracie…
Goodnight, Gracie….
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:01 pm 49. Strawman:If I swat a troll, will PETA make a stink?
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:01 pm 50. Delia:“Or as we say on the internets: EPIC FAIL.”
Dude, dude, dude, dude! *jumps up and down* It’s ‘internetz’.
Get ‘hip’ with the ‘kewl’ crowdz. lol
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:01 pm 51. Strawman:45, that was the “largely comply” thing. Translation: no.
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:03 pm 52. Delia:So help me, if that effer says ‘inherited’ one more time I’m going to hurl a shoe at my frickin’ television.
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:03 pm 53. Войска ПВО:Stephen, thanks for the tip om Dr Clouthier. She is definitely better looking than you are..
..and you both are smarter than I am, but I am more smasjhhed than both of you put together. And notw that I have put you two together, would you please pull yourself apart; you might get into trouble with your spouses.
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:03 pm 54. Strawman:So if 0bama loses an opportunity, and a crisis shouldn’t go to waste, does that mean we just averted a crisis?
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:04 pm 55. Войска ПВО:..oh, hell, smasjhhed == smashed and notw == not (!= for programmers?)..and does anyone have the number for the Ajax Liquor Store?
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:05 pm 56. Войска ПВО:47. rbj writes:
“Or as we say on the internets: EPIC FAIL.””
rbj, you must be more smashed than I am; I can only connect to one internet over here! I *am* jealous, bro!
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:07 pm 57. Войска ПВО:19. ER White writes:
“Foot amputation? Penis enlargement?”
If the government gets into the game, you’ll probably get a foot enlargement and a penis..
*shudder*
I don’t want to think about it!
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:11 pm 58. Delia:49. Strawman:
“If I swat a troll, will PETA make a stink?”
It’s ‘whack-a-troll’ and PETA can cry a GD river over my rare steak burgers.
Wahhhhhhhh
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
“Meat tastes like murder, and murder tastes pretty damned good.” –Dennis Leary
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:20 pm 59. Walter Sobchak:Enough with the whining about inheriting the deficit!! You wanted the job… you campaigned for the job… so man up and DO THE JOB!
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:21 pm 60. John:Susan Boyle should have done the press conference. It would have been better for Obama’s health care chances.
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:21 pm 61. Jason:>>…and does anyone have the number for the Ajax Liquor Store?
O my word – is that a quote from Bob & Ray? I didn’t know anybody still knew about them these days! Hilarious!
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:34 pm 62. Delia:59. Walter Sobchak:
“Enough with the whining about inheriting the deficit!! You wanted the job… you campaigned for the job… so man up and DO THE JOB!”
You said it, Walter! I’m so sick-n-tired of this mother effing PUSSY whining and complaining like he contracted a case of herpes on some drunken frat-boy night. Dude, you wanted it, USED it for your ‘win’, OWN IT, you spazzoid frickin’ tard!
~
60. John:
“Susan Boyle should have done the press conference. It would have been better for Obama’s health care chances.”
LMFAO!
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:35 pm 63. Crusader:Hammer Smashed Face. Jim Carrey butt conversation. You get the drift.
Jul 22, 2009 - 6:35 pm 64. Tri Geek:I don’t know what all you “wingnuts” are talking about. President Obama (Our Dear Leader) was so wonderful tonight I got a chill down my leg. Wait…I think I just peed on myself.
Jul 22, 2009 - 7:00 pm 65. frank martin:“Ajax liquor store” is from LA’s own Hudson and Landry from waaay back in the 1970’s, and I submit this copy to the court as exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGJyu5vQRvs&feature=related
Jul 22, 2009 - 7:07 pm 66. agent bedhead:Is this where the line for free cocktails starts?
Jul 22, 2009 - 7:21 pm 67. Delia:64. Tri Geek:
“President Obama (Our Dear Leader) was so wonderful tonight I got a chill down my leg. Wait…I think I just peed on myself.”
No, honey chile, what you felt, was a WMD running ‘UP’ your leg.
Jul 22, 2009 - 7:26 pm 68. Tri Geek:I am off to visit the Baskin & Robbins down the street where “Our Great Leader” used to scoop ice cream as a high schooler. By the way, he attended the most expensive and exclusive private school in Hawaii. What a harsh upbringing. And all that talk about what a great B-ball player he is…..he didn’t even start on a team made up of short Asian kids. I should have know he would throw a baseball like a ……… I won’t say it.
Jul 22, 2009 - 7:50 pm 69. tree hugging sister:“Epic fail”.
I hear poetry in the air…
Jul 22, 2009 - 8:00 pm 70. Jason:Thanks, frank martin – got my old time radio comedians mixed up. It WAS Hudson and Landry. That Ajax Liquor Store sketch was hilarious. As was the drunk airline pilot…
Jul 22, 2009 - 8:17 pm 71. David W. Lincoln:Hands up if anyone agrees with this: The Democrats are regretting 24/7/365 obstruction during Republican Presidencies, because the short comings of what they propose are being highlighted 24/7/365.
Jul 22, 2009 - 8:29 pm 72. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:Did Erkel just trip on his tighty half-whiteys?
Jul 22, 2009 - 8:32 pm 73. noreen:This guy takes the concept of being an imbecile to a new level. I have worked in medicine my whole life and our system works pretty darned well. We achieve positive results and help the sick everyday, all day. It is difficult and very complex. Even if the system were perfect it would not be cheap. This guy knows as much about health care as he does running the country. I would laugh if it were not so sad. Maybe I should start drinking again and then it would all make sense. His lack of knowlege and depth is becoming more glaring by the day. He knows zilch about medicine and the complexities of it. He must be stopped. He is insane and incompetent
Jul 22, 2009 - 8:36 pm 74. Lord Moonbatten:Did anyone else notice this line from Teh One’s speech?
“So let me be clear: This isn’t about me. I have great health insurance, and so does every Member of Congress.”
Considering all of the criticism of a health plan that POTUS and congress would be exempt from while it’s crammed down our collective throats, can you imagine a more tone-deaf statement delivered by a sitting President in a televised speech?
Am I missing something, or is this sheer political incompetence, to go along with the economic (and other) incompetence?
Jul 22, 2009 - 8:50 pm 75. fear obama:“This isn’t about me. I have great health insurance and so does every member of Congress,” he said…………………………
He has great health insurance and AIG administers their pensions.
Not hard to figure where the majority of our premiums will go.
This dude couldn’t sell liquor to drunk sailors.
Jul 22, 2009 - 9:02 pm 76. Войска ПВО:61. Jason writes re the Ajax Liguor Store:
“O my word – is that a quote from Bob & Ray? I didn’t know anybody still knew about them these days! Hilarious!”
..sorta close. It was a reference to Hudson and Landry’s “Ajax Liquor Store” which was a bit done back in the ’60s.
Like they said, “I was just working up the nerve to go to confession.”
Jul 22, 2009 - 9:10 pm 77. jvon:Thank you for your brave service, sir. Just reading your commentary makes me want a drink.
Jul 22, 2009 - 9:14 pm 78. Войска ПВО:..well, when I sober up, maybe I’ll re-read the entire thread and not post identical links.
“Two quarts of tequila.”
“..wadda we got so far?”
Jul 22, 2009 - 9:14 pm 79. Commuter:Given his total dependence up to now on his mile wide but inch deep rhetorical ability I didn’t expect much more than that this evening but this performance was awful. I’d be embarrassed for him except that it’s more than a bit disconcerting to see the POTUS, chief executive of the US with all that implies, showing such profound ignorance about the health care system on prime time TV.
We are not in good hands.
Jul 22, 2009 - 9:26 pm 80. Marc Malone:#73 noreen – He is already stopped. Don’t you recognize a drowning man when you see one? Flailing about… gasping for air… random movements… panic. He is done.
All he knows is how to campaign, so he reached again tonight in desperation for the only arrow in his quiver… and there was no arrow. End of Presidency. Impotence ensues. May as well retire to Camp David for the next 3.5 years. It only took six months this time for people to realize what a disaster Progressivism is.
EPIC FAIL, indeed.
Jul 22, 2009 - 9:30 pm 81. Camo:He said health care reform would not only improve the quality of care they receive at reduced cost but in the long run actually rein in spiraling deficits and debt.
…OK, let’s name ONE government program that contained costs, went on or under budget, and delivered what it promised. Just one, anybody? Anyone? Nope. Just look at the Medicare/Medicaid fiasco, with hundreds of billions of dollars in the red already.
Jul 22, 2009 - 11:20 pm 82. HawkWatcher:Dear President Obama,
I implore you to syudy this web page and the site it resides in. It will help you to pass a health care reform bill.
Thank you,
HawkWatcher
http://www.physiciansforreform.org/index.php?id=17
Jul 22, 2009 - 11:34 pm 83. KZ:Tell me again, who elected this guy?
Just how many retards do we have in America ayway?
Jul 22, 2009 - 11:59 pm 84. Mary:#73, Noreen
Yes, he is insane. Certifiable, in fact.
Jul 23, 2009 - 1:01 am 85. WhyamInotsurprised?:I keep my sanity by avoiding the teleprompter while in service. I get the summary right here on PJM or on FOX news. However, when things do get to me, I sip a little Makers Mark.
btw – good observation that it does look like Barry has just finished sucking on a blue popcicle. Funny color those lips of his when they are lying or when they are threatening.
Jul 23, 2009 - 3:05 am 86. LeighB:Let’s see…would I rather listen to Barack Obama or Douglas Elmendorf on health care reform? CBO all the way.
At least BHO could be more considerate and have his press love ins on Friday or Saturday night…then the necessary drink-along would not make for such a harsh commute.
Jul 23, 2009 - 3:42 am 87. kywrite:Please don’t use the words “retards” or “tards” when referring to Obama followers. The mentally challenged have a good excuse for being intellectually slow.
Those who voted for Obama, on the other hand, do NOT.
Jul 23, 2009 - 4:12 am 88. misanthropicus:Steve, you’re a martyr.
Jul 23, 2009 - 4:47 am 89. Meryl:Stephen Green–I don’t drink (for conscience and family history reasons) and I will NOT watch Bambi’s press conferences…so I thank yo from the bottom of my sober little heart for your sacrifice on my behalf. Seriously.
Thankyewthankyew.
Jul 23, 2009 - 5:27 am 90. DJP:Thank goodness I only watch the last ten minutes of the speech and that’s only because Wipeout was coming up next.
Did anyone else notice that The One accused all doctors of fraud? According to him, if you go to the doctor for a cough, they’re going to go straight away to a tonsilectomy (or however it’s spelled).
I can only imagine what the other 50 minutes held.
Jul 23, 2009 - 5:50 am 91. RobbieRob:This brings up a great idea for a drinking game to make El Uno’s (yes I still haven’t forgotten his now infamous Cinco De Quattro celebration) pressers all that much more interesting.
Every time he says “I inherited this…” DRINK
Every time he says ” ummmmmm….” DRINK
Every time he says “this will not increase the deficit” DRINK
Every time he says “this isn’t about me” DRINK
Oh the fun we could have
Jul 23, 2009 - 6:15 am 92. Realist:Here is the DIRECT link to the USA Debt Clock read it and weep Americans as you watch the Obamination instigated financial meltdown clock up your Chiildrens and your Childrens Childrens debt
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Jul 23, 2009 - 7:14 am 93. Silicon Valley Jim:This thread may be the best thing that I’ve ever read on the web. Well done, everybody.
Jul 23, 2009 - 7:53 am 94. Delia:How come my last post got edited out?
What’d I do?
What’d I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
*sniff*
Jul 23, 2009 - 8:16 am 95. Cindy Sue Causey:k. pablo He always looks like he sucked down a blue popsicle.
Vitriol, thou art now dubst…..
Blue Popsicle.
Jul 23, 2009 - 10:13 am 96. sallie:I sincerely hope he gets stopped .
He needs to answer the question of WHY all elected officials and government employees in general, will NOT be on the grand medical plan he envisions for America
Jul 23, 2009 - 12:00 pm 97. The Historian:PLAIN TALK: WHY OBAMACARE IS NOT THE ANSWER
This is just a rush to failure.
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/plain-talk-why-obamacare-is-not-answer.html
Jul 23, 2009 - 12:57 pm 98. NukemHill:Would’ve loved to have been a fly on the wall when Olberdouche and Thriller found out that Obama got bumped by the owners of their network.
Jul 23, 2009 - 2:45 pm 99. Linda Rivera:U.S. HEALTHCARE: CUT YOUR LIFE SHORT
Obama promised HOPE and CHANGE. The media never asked what frightening changes Obama planned for Americans.
WORLDNETDAILY.COM
July 22, 2009
Obamacare for old folks: Just ‘cut your life short’
Health plan provision demands ‘end-of-life’ counseling
By Bob Unruh
The version of President Obama’s universal health care plan pending in the U.S. House would require “end-of-life” counseling for senior citizens, and the former lieutenant governor for the state of New York is warning people to “protect their parents” from the measure.
At issue is section 1233 of the legislative proposal that deals with a government requirement for an “Advance Care Planning Consultation.”
Betsy McCaughey, the former New York state officer, told former president candidate Fred Thompson during an interview on his radio program the “consultation” is no more or less than an attempt to convince seniors to die.
“One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session,” she said. “They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner.”
McCaughey also said the Obama administration is suggesting that medical care be withheld from seniors based on the expected years they have left to live.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=104719
Obama’s Civilian National Security Force
Obama promised change. The End of America as we know it:
Obama: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
PRAVDA: America’s Descent into Marxism – Brief Video
Jul 24, 2009 - 9:54 amhttp://www.solutionsfromscience.com/