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1. James:

A Republican talking about voting corruption?!?!?!?! You guys are getting more desperate – and hilarious! – by the moment!

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:05 am 2. Marc Malone:

The Obama campaign has a computerized system trackin every voter. They plan to go around and round up any Dem who hasn’t yet voted and take them to a polling place. Sounds like admirable efficiency, right? Sounds scary. Acorn thugs showing up at your door….

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:18 am 3. vivo:

According to this article, are American voters so DISHONEST?

Elections should be totally restructured. Campaigns shouldn’t run longer than six months. What a waste of money. Eliminate the bipartisan system. Include all candidates in debates. You’ll be surprised. Vote American Idol style. Electronically certified, of course (usernames, passwords, etc.).

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:09 am 4. C Smith:

A few of your points have some merit.
However, my company is sending me on business next week rather unexpectedly, and it was very convenient, albeit slow, to take a couple of hours yesterday and cast a ballot.
So having some means to express my political will proved important.

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:45 am 5. BizzyBlog » Latest Pajamas Media Post (’Early Voting Is a Travesty’) Is Up:

[...] It’s here. [...]

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:52 am 6. Thursday:

Add to that Democrats’ efforts to allow a park bench be someone’s “address” in voter registration (see Ohio) and more.

Media-Related but worth 51 seconds of your time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omXHvDuXgCk

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:55 am 7. Chuck:

Early voting isn’t the problem. It’s early counting and talking head predictions that distorts the outcome. Lock down the ballots until after the last polling booth in the nation is closed. It’s not that hard, even though the TV media won’t like the idea.

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:07 am 8. pez:

“Add to that Democrats’ efforts to allow a park bench be someone’s “address” in voter registration (see Ohio) and more.”

Why should a homeless person have no right to vote? Is that what you advocate?

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:30 am 9. Frank:

Obama is from Chicago,the voter fraud capital of the world.
This election reminds so much of the 1960 election that the Democrats stole. I was a Democrat at that time. I was a college student. I did a report on the election for a political science class. I was so turned-off by the fraud perpetrated by the Democrats that I changed partys.

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:35 am 10. Tom Blumer:

Chuck, you still have the unresolved, and I say unresolvable, control issues.

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:38 am 11. dan:

I agree with the article. What is this “early voting”? And electronic voting? And the homeless allowed to vote in Ohio (my state), where, according to the ruling, if you don’t have proper identification you will be issued a “provisional ballot” and they will check the details later? Later!? Right.

And so on. I sympathize with legitimate work interference cited above, but in my opinion we should get one day, and everyone casts either a red rock or a blue rock, and then they count the rocks – that’s it. (Whoever believes electronic voting – on a network! – is a good idea is a complete idiot.)

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:48 am 12. Robert Hurley:

You forgot reason 11. These people have the nerve to disagree with me and are voting for Obama.

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:14 am 13. Chuck:

So, Tom, the IRS can effectively control every taxpayer in the country (and they do), but the FEC can’t (won’t) control election outcome engineering? It’s a matter of will. It can be controlled.

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:24 am 14. AJ:

James, the corruption in 2008 goes ONE way, so grow up and read something.

I also agree early voting is a travesty and should be abolished now.

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:24 am 15. Libsaremorons:

Who here is honestly “effected” by media announcing how well Obama is doing? Not me, I still plan to go out and vote, even if the media were reporting that Obama was gonna win 90%-10%.

By Pez:
“Why should a homeless person have no right to vote? Is that what you advocate?”

You sir/ma’am are a moron

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:56 am 16. Ursa Major:

Sadly, this may be the end of the greatest experiment in government in 2000 years. There is no question that this election will be fraudulent, and our tax dollars helped bring it about through the funding of ACORN, a group of inner city community organizers, anarchists, and street thugs.

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:58 am 17. Mike:

I voted early because I’m so sick of this election season. Now I can largely ignore it.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:16 am 18. Tito:

Why should a homeless person have no right to vote? Is that what you advocate?

I will assume, pez, that you actually think the necessity of a valid address is an attempt to keep the homeless from voting rather than an attempt to prevent voter fraud. In a day where all attempts to dilute the value of a citizen’s vote are viewed as more “democratic,” I can actually see the pretzel logic in your question.

As for disfranchising the homeless, Thursday may not advocate it, but I would. Despite what you see on television, the “homeless” are not down on their luck philosophers and poets with pure souls noble spirits. They are, for the most part, people with substance abuse problems or mentally ill people who would be in hospitals were we not such a compassionate society. They can’t run their own lives, and a person who can’t run his own life should not have a voice in running another’s life. If that makes me an intolerant, hate-filled fascist, so be it.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:22 am 19. dan:

“is that what you advocate?”

the issue isn’t they are human beings in the body politic, the issue is procedural: if you’re a homeless person, and the law is one vote one time, and the way they ensure that law is to use identification like a driver’s license (note: not a passport, which has no address on it), then why couldn’t you just vote in one precinct, then go to another, and another, and so on?

by the way, you also might want to consider – since law suits require money, time, and effort – who would bring such a suit, and why, and to what end.

“ACORN, a group of inner city community organizers, anarchists, and street thugs.”

Communists, rather. We must practice saying “Communist” more often.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:24 am 20. Ex-fetus:

My Brother did the early vote thingie yesterday. He lives in a 50/50 neighborhood. It was a bastion of white flight back in the late 60 and eraly 70’s, post MLK riots.
Now it is the favored buying grounds for Black Professionals.
Median home prices in this part of America are in the low 90’s for about 1400 Sq ft. of house on a 1/8 lot. So those black professionals are getting about 2,000 Sq ft. for 70K or so. More room, less money. The sort of thing a prudent, hard working man and wife with children is looking for, regardless of color.
A good deal that attracts the kind of buyers that are NOT going to file chapter 11 or miss any mortgage payments.
Anyway, I was talking to some of his neighbors last night and out of the 4 black professionals there, not one had voted for Obama bin Biden. His across the street neighbor summed it up best when he said Ohhhhh……BAAMA! reminded him of the N****r ( a word he can use because he is black but I can’t because I’m white) that sold him his first Washer and Dryer. He was still paying for the dam things years after they stopped working. He said his experience is that when ever a black man calls him brother, he is about to get screwed.
This is a very red state, so it attracts red voters. Birds of a feather, you know. Birds of a feather applies to Blue States too, so I suspect the polls are waaaaaaaaay off, this cycle.
Some pollsters are even saying that. Turnout alone blows up the models, when you include the fact that the models are based on party affiliation, which isn’t very important anymore, you will see a LOT of embarrassed pollsters on November 05.
Do you know anybody directly that has been polled? Ask around.
The Demonrats are for sure cheating, but I’m not sure it will matter. The larger the turn out, the less importance the cheating is.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:38 am 21. D Palmer:

I think that you overstate the risks of early voting. Some fraud is inevitable and I don’t think that early voting increases the risk or amount measurably.

Our election date was established to accomodate a church going agrarian electorate that often had to travel great distances by horse to vote. However, in today’s society voting on a Tuesday is just as incompatible with the working schedule the vast majority of people have as a Saturday or Sunday would have been in 1800.

Early voting should increase turnout, which is good for our country, and that outweighs any additional risk of vote fraud in my mind.

Move election day to a Saturday and I would be more supportive of restrictions on early voting.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:57 am 22. D. Cohen:

What happens if someone casts a vote early and then dies before election
day? Shouldn’t that vote not be counted? If that’s not a problem, then
why are votes only cast a month or so early? We could extend
early voting out to a century or so, cast all votes perpetually for
one party or the other, and make the Chicago machine’s practice of
voting the graveyards legal!

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:58 am 23. Just Karen:

I couldn’t agree with you more. Americans are just asking for voter fraud by allowing early voting. So many of our sons, daughters, husbands and wives have died for us to have the freedom to vote, why can’t we take a few minutes or even a couple of hours one day every four years to vote for the most prestigious job in the land? To me, it’s the very least I can do to honor our country. No one should ever be “too busy” or “too important” (which I think is more the case) to vote. I hate to think that someone can be elected fraudently and then be allowed to just run out the days to the next election. It’s sad.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:07 am 24. htom:

So that’s why it’s called “locking in the vote”. Used to be that if you voted absentee you could show up at the polls and vote, if you’d changed your mind; absentee ballots were checked against the list of those who’d voted, and the absentee ballot destroyed unopened if the voter showed up.

Which scumbag thought up this idea of really voting early? What do I do as an election judge if Joe T. Voter shows up in my precinct and claims not to have voted?

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:09 am 25. justwondering:

You know, the most interesting part about the Colorado story is that the number of Democrats voting versus the number of Republicans voting is statistically even.

Now … juxtapose that information with what you are seeing in the weighting of every. single. poll.

All of the major pollsters have modelled a statistically significant higher Democrat turnout when compared to the Republican turnout this election cycle. This weighting is why you are seeing Obama with double-digit leads. Without such weighting, Obama is not leading any of the major polls.

Early voting patterns are not bearing out outsized Democrat turnout. Just as many Republicans are voting early as Democrats.

This is a very interesting result, and portends a McCain victory.

A landslide victory.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:12 am 26. Danny:

A red herring. Early voters vote early because they’ve made up their mind. Anyone who has reservations waits until election day. Anyone swayed by election polls to vote one way or the other, or to choose whether or not to vote, isn’t going to suddenly become more rational by waiting until election day.

If you’re concerned about election results being swayed by media, you need to look at how the MSM is openly rooting for one candidate over the other.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:19 am 27. Andie:

Just wanted to add a few thoughts:

I’m on the permanant absentee ballot rolls in CA. I signed up because my schedule is erratic, but I still wanted to vote. I have found that because I always get ballots for every election, I vote a lot more often than I would otherwise. I’m not just voting for presidential elections I’m also voting for every municipal and state ballot in off years/cycles. Perhaps there are security risks to absentee ballots, but I think that there are benefits that haven’t been touched on.
1) Voting for more than just presidential elections
2) Voting regardless of my work schedule on that day
3) Being able to do research on the people and issues on the ballots in the comfort of my home and fill out the bubbles as I learn what I want to know.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:32 am 28. Geprge:

I’ve voted early here in Texas and really like our system because it fits my work schedule. During the hours when polls are open I’m much more likely to have a small break of time when I’m at work than when I’m at home. In Texas I can vote at any early voting location in the county including ones convenient to my work location. I can also encourage friends and coworkers to vote at any early voting location. No need to figure out voting precinct, etc.

I believe that in-person early voting is much more secure than absentee voting. However, I wish Texas law would allow poll workers to work in adjacent counties. I live in a county with a surplus of Republican poll workers and a shortage of Democrats. Just across the county line the opposite case exists. It would be good if both major political parties were able to keep each other honest at all poll locations.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:36 am 29. John:

I think the arguments against early voting are overblown. Absentee fraud concerns me far more.

Having said that, I fail to see the need for a month-long early voting period available in several states. Wouldn’t one week serve the same purpose? That would significantly narrow the window of time for information lag.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:54 am 30. Henry:

I find early voting very convenient. I don’t see why the rules for exit polling don’t apply to early voting as well. We shouldn’t hear anything concrete about voting patterns prior to the election.

And yes, poor Democrats, the party that insists that the United States require a state issued picture ID before voting is the party concerned about voter fraud by the party of ACORN and the party that would have illegals vote if they could. Imagine that!

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:02 am 31. Right Angles » Blog Archive » The travesty of early voting:

[...] Tom Blumer at Pajamas Media also thinks early voting is a travesty, and he lists 10 reasons why. His No. 8 is my No. 1. He also points out the dangers of early voting by mail. [...]

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:05 am 32. John Ettorre:

You right wingers always expect everyone to be as dim-witted as y’all. But we’re not. Most Americans are pretty smart. So save your breath on this silly little pretend controversy. After elections stolen by the R’s, it’s a nice try to suggest that the opposite is happening, but no one with an IQ in the triple digits really believes your little theatrics, including (I would guess) most of you.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:06 am 33. J:

“Slightly more Democrats than Republicans have voted in Colorado, either by mail or at early-voting polling places”

It would be really interesting if the state could publish information about whether and to what degree there was a divergence between “exit” polling of early voters and actual results (but not the results themselves until after the election).

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:23 am 34. nlcatter:

i am one who will be getting Dems to polls

1 I dont work for acorn you GDFM

2 I dont coerce anyone to go – they CALL US!

you are pathetic losers

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:25 am 35. nlcatter:

Gore won the vote in FLorisa (not to mention the popular vote)

didne matter about chad, recounts, or Nader

Jews in PBC did not pick Buchanon by 3000 ( butterfly ballot!)

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:27 am 36. tonynoboloney:

#22 D. Cohen, This is a true story. I am the mayor of a small N. Michigan community. In our last election I won by 1 vote. The defeated candidate brought a suit to prove that one of the voters had DIED since he “early” voted. The county ruled that even though he had passed away his intent was to vote for ME, thus I am the sitting & duly elected official.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:32 am 37. DensityDuck:

Andie: “Being able to do research on the people and issues on the ballots in the comfort of my home and fill out the bubbles as I learn what I want to know.”

A VERY good point, and it’s what I also like about being on the CA “permanent-vote-by-mail” list. There were people and issues on that ballot that I’d never HEARD of before I saw it on the ballot. If I’d walked up the polling place, I’d have been expected to make a decision right then and there. How is that informed? How is that an effective means of voting?

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:41 am 38. James:

Reasons 1-3 are the same argument in different forms. 4, 6, and 8 are would all be fixed by similar things (requiring ID with address). 5 is tenuous at best. I’ll agree with 7. 9 and 10 can be fixed by not allowing counting until polls close.

So let’s just say 5 arguments instead of 10, shall we? Oh wait, that wouldn’t be American to look for truth and simplicity. Or at least good republic politics.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:48 am 39. PatK:

A red herring, indeed.

Here in Oregon, all voting is “early voting,” thanks to our vote-by-mail system (although those who wish to are free to hand-carry their ballots to the county courthouse on election day). A decade into this system, it has proven remarkably popular among voters of *all* political persuasions – and remarkably free of fraud. The dire predictions about vote tampering, coercion, etc. that were made when we went into this have, according to numerous independent studies, simply failed to come true.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:07 am 40. tanstaafl:

Yes, early voting is a travesty.

One scam goes like this…Register ‘em, expose ‘em to the pep talk and, voilâ, voting booth right this way.

There is a constitutionally designated voting day, the first Tuesday in November.

Voting on any other day (except absentee or those unable to make it to the polls on election day) is complete crap.

This stuff and ACORN and voting fraud in general are enough to gag a maggot.

I’m moving to Cuba, maybe Venezuela or Zimbabwe. At least there voting corruption is (more or less) out in the open.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:13 am 41. Yoda:

Voter fraud is not a problem!
VOTER FRAUD IS NOT A PROBLEM!!!

But election fraud is a big problem.

Voter fraud is what the Republicans have pretty successfully distracted us with while they commit election fraud behind the scenes.

Voter fraud is a couple dozen invalid ballots nationwide.
Election fraud is untold thousands of votes flipped or not counted.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:17 am 42. Robert Hurley:

Ex Fetus I love your polling methods. I think you are on to something here. No one called me either

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:23 am 43. SAF:

Voting in the US is strategically flawed. One man one vote is flawed. It should be one tax dollar one vote. Let those who contribute more to society have their voices heard louder. A judge in some state declared that a park bench is a valid home address. So no matter what your persuasion on this board is, left, right or middle and you give lots of thought to who to cast your ballot for someone with no thought to it at all can cancel your ballot.

And using the IRS to validate voter registration would probably eliminate lots of voter fraud. Of all the government agencies they appear to be the most efficient.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:25 am 44. tanstaafl:

Voter fraud is a couple dozen invalid ballots nationwide.

Right. That’s why ACORN is under federal investigation in something like 12 states. Over $800,000 from the Obama campaign was given to ACORN during the primaries.

Election fraud is untold thousands of votes flipped or not counted.

You’re a good student of the phony agitprop. In the spirit of the best defense is offense, ACORN has found enough money to put an ad out, as we speak, making that identical claim.

Got some proof ? ACORN doesn’t.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:28 am 45. Pierred:

I am reminded of an employee of mine with a mentally challenged son, chrono age 26, mental age 10, who asked his son prior to the 2004 election who he liked. The son said George Bush. Father said; “we’ll straighten you out on that. Father accompanied son into the voting booth, and ensured a “correct” vote. How many millions of physically and mentally challenged voters are there who generously have the “assistance” of their parents/caregivers? Being reliant on many government programs, from special ed to payment for things like wheelchairs, I wonder for whom these votes are cast? Duh.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:44 am 46. schaabdl:

All voting should be one day, 24 hour period, all polls open / close at the same time, with a verifiable, positive identification. And yes, I am for using the best of technology, not the ballot stuffing possibilities of scan ballots, punch out, and mail-in. Anyone who wants to guarantee the sanctity of YOUR vote should want the vote to be the most stringent. If voting is important to you then you should want to protect and secure the process regardless of the PARTY.
***
And yes, I know that this can be done securely and WORLDWIDE if need be using the technology we have today.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:44 am 47. Yoda:

tanstaafl: ACORN brought those phony registrations to the attention of the government. They weren’t caught trying to do anything illegal as an institution. They hired some people who turned out to be lazy and filled out forms themselves to inflate their earnings. That isn’t exactly a buried story. It’s out there.

Proof? YOU go find the proof. It’s everywhere except Fox “News” and right-wing radio. I’m not going to prove to you that the earth is round, either. Study the 2000 and 2004 elections for yourself. Research the number of individual fraudulent voters. Then compare that to the numbers of ballots that went uncounted or were never even cast due to vote suppression in the last two presidential elections. Listen to the reports by people who saw their votes flipped on screen right in front of them, even with current early voting. Now I’m not a professional researcher, but I’ve found not a single instance of such things that favor the Democrats.

And who was it in 2003 who said, “I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year”? That was Walden O’Dell, then-CEO of Ohio-based Diebold, the largest voting machine maker. Conflict of interest? Consider if Diebold were tied, however tenuously, to Democrats–the media (that people like you somehow still insist on calling liberal) would have gone absolutely nuts. And you would probably be railing against the Democratic-owned voting machine cartel in your blog posts.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:50 am 48. The Historian:

OBAMA IS THE STEALTH CANDIDATE!

The reasons why candidate Obama cannot be trusted are explained at this link;

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-is-stealth-candidate.html

Oct 30, 2008 - 11:13 am 49. Micha Elyi:

DensityDuck (#37) said “There were people and issues on that ballot that I’d never HEARD of before I saw it on the ballot (in the polling place).”

Well, DD here’s a clue: In California every registered voter is mailed — well in advance of the election date — a sample ballot listing all the “people and issues on that ballot” for the upcoming election. Voters are also mailed — again, in advance — a voters guide that lists candidate information, the text of every initiative and referendum you’ll be voting on along with a summary and information about them, plus arguments for and against — and rebuttals — those ballot measures.

You have NO EXCUSES for not doing your homework in advance, bub (and bubbette — that’s you Andie #27) whether you vote in person on election day at your precinct’s polling station or by mail.

Now go over to the Dilbert web site and find out why the Speaker of the House isn’t part of your home audio system.

Oct 30, 2008 - 11:13 am 50. tanstaafl:

Sorry, yoda, your statements do not rise to “proof”.

For the record, Diebold (and other electronic voting) machines have been adopted by the individual voting precincts in the individual states.

All Diebold/voting machine claims and complaints should be directed at those individuals, i.e. your own precinct captains and organizers. It’s not some giant conspiracy to render elections fraudulent, despite the fact that “your side” has been shouting that stuff for the duration. Supposedly, problems with voting machines (not intentional ones, yoda) have been remedied and/or some states are insisting on paper record to accompany electronic voting.

As for your statement and ACORN’s future, what they’re going to be “caught with” is still open, as investigations are ongoing. You haven’t seen the people on “the news” who’ve been begged by the ACORN registrant to just sign up one more time so he (the registrant) could make some more money in the ACORN quota system ?

Obama is pushing (and pushing !) “early voting” as we speak.

A candidate has no reasonable right to do that.

Oct 30, 2008 - 11:18 am 51. myth buster:

RE: voters dropping dead

If you cast a ballot legally, it counts even if you drop dead the second after casting it. This is true whenever the polls are open, whether on election day or before it, including with absentee ballots. In fact, a voter might cast an absentee ballot and die before the completed ballot is received by the registrar. The vote still counts.

Oct 30, 2008 - 11:29 am 52. James Nightshade:

I wouldn’t mind early voting, if late voting were allowed as well. Turn federal elections into a running tally, computed bimonthly, with meetings electoral college as necessary. Then I could choose to withhold my votes until I see what the new folks are actually doing in office, and help to turn the bums out when appropriate.

Oct 30, 2008 - 11:55 am 53. Pierred:

How about some irony? Here in Chicago, PHOTO ID is being required with tickets to Obamafest on election night. Exactly the requirement the democrats consistently oppose as a voting requirement. Heh.

Oct 30, 2008 - 12:29 pm 54. Yoda:

tanstaafl:
I said I wasn’t going to try to prove anything to you. I encouraged you to do your own research.

Tell your precinct-specific story to the entire states of Florida in 2000 or Ohio in 2004.

As for the ACORN issue being an ongoing investigation, fair enough.

Still, you’re fretting about voter fraud. I’m fretting about election fraud. I submit that election fraud is a much more serious and pervasive issue.

As long as the two major political parties control how we vote, I don’t think we can put 100% trust into the system.

Oct 30, 2008 - 12:32 pm 55. JM Hanes:

One advantage to voting by mail is that folks who use fraudulent addresses won’t be getting ballots.

In North Carolina, the deadline for requesting an absentee ballot mailed to an out of state address is early enough to allow checking against the registration rolls ( which I’m assuming actually occurs), and the application must be signed by an in-state resident as well as the applicant.

I see no reason for beginning to count any ballots before election day itself, however. There’s nothing about a universal voting day that requires a same day tally! The pressure to provide invites unforced errors as well as superficial vetting.

The only argument I’ve heard against declaring a national holiday to accommodate working voters is the possibility that large numbers of people might simply view it as a vacation day. The very last people I’m concerned about are those who could easily vote, but who choose not to do so!

Yoda:

The Civil Rights Commission which investigated the Florida vote which certainly tried mightly to uncover voter suppression in Florida came up empty except for a handful of unconfirmed anecdotes. They ended up having nothing to complain about except the Florida law which prohibits convicted felons from voting. It’s not surprising that you have no interest in proving that the world is round.

Oct 30, 2008 - 12:33 pm 56. Marc Malone:

tonynobaloney – Really? One vote? Must be a small town. Still, you had to be laughing!

Oct 30, 2008 - 12:35 pm 57. Reason # 11 Why Early Voting Sucks « Conservatives For McCain:

[...] # 11 Why Early Voting Sucks Tom Blumer at Pajamas Media writes of how the recent trend toward stretching out no-excuses early voting is hurting the democratic [...]

Oct 30, 2008 - 12:50 pm 58. Michael Sher:

Maybe, just maybe you’ll all get over the nastiness and recognise what a great country this is but how badly managed it is. Who asked the question about the way veterans are treated. Are the flag wavers oblivious of the trauma these people suffer. Regretably they all did not marry beer heiresses or any heiresses for that matter. What a country and what a lot of ill educated and ill considerate oafs.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:00 pm 59. Mike Naples:

You almost got it right Marc Malone. They have actually had a tracking device installed in every Democrat in every swing state & they will be using that to determine if each one has gone to the poll to vote yet. If not they will track you down & force you by gunpoint to the polling place. And don’t forget the cameras they will have set up to ensure that they vote the way they’re suppossed to.

I see no sense in limiting the scope of your nonsense. I guess you’re either simple minded or you wanted it to sound believable enough to the ignorant people that are willing to buy into the other lies & BS that comes out of McCain supporters like yourself.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:06 pm 60. James Collins:

We could do without elections, just let partisan supporters call on voters to sign a card. That is what the Unions want. No more secret voting. The Democratic Party and Obama support this check off system.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:07 pm 61. rocketeer:

Why is voting so difficult? Why is it that nearly every case of voter fraud occurs in democratic controlled districts? Why is is that everyone who is opposed to requiring an id to vote is a democrat?

If states can’t figure out how to count votes correctly, or do any sort of rudimentary validation of who is voting, then, at least with the national elections, the feds should step in and regulate the process across the country. I find it stunning that I can’t go buy a beer at the corner market without showing an id, but I can vote all I want without one. Are we as a society more concerned about drinking then we are voting? No one has ever made the argument that providing id to purchase liquor is a violation of my civil rights, or a disenfranchisement.

This election cycle is already corrupted. There are going to be lawsuits in dozens of states over their election results. This needs to be addressed before the next elections.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:08 pm 62. Jeff Scofield:

I have to agree that the results of early voting should be concealed until after the election.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:14 pm 63. Mike Naples:

Haven’t you learned not to use the words like always, never, everyone, & every in an argument? It devalues your argument and those who are educated will not give any merit to what you have to say regardless of whether or not there is any validity to it.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:14 pm 64. Mike Naples:

You’re so right James. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard Obama say that he’s for getting rid of the current voting system and converting to a check off system. Maybe that’s because I don’t believe you’ll find a single documented case of him saying such a ridiculous thing. McCain supporters like yourself sure do love to make assumptions, don’t you? Or are you assuming nothing & just telling a bold faced lie in an effort to scare people away from voting for that one?

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:19 pm 65. David Zukerman:

We already have the tedious spectacle of the two-year election campaign.

And so, early voting just follows on the heels of early campaigning.

In time, I guess, both campaigning and voting will begin as soon as the next president takes the oath of office.

We have, I believe, already started out on the road to “The Bizarre Society” –
a society that views common sense as vice, not virtue. The Founders are probably looking at us from their celestial perch and shaking their heads in disbelief.

Too bad Rod Serling is not here to describe The Bizarre Society in an episode of The Twilight Zone.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:21 pm 66. Mike C..:

The Democrats consist of mostly Uninformed People who Belive in Fairytales!!That Barry Obamma Tells them. Cmon people

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:22 pm 67. darknight:

Frank you should have switched back after 2004. You did right ? Once again you are a DEMOCRAT! Congratulations

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:22 pm 68. judi:

You Republicans clearly already think you have lost and are looking for excuses. Don’t worry maybe you still have the Supereme Court on your side. This entire mess we are in boils down to the fradulent 2000 election because Republicans fought the hand count of votes. You guys invented modern day election fraud.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:29 pm 69. Gordon:

It’s a d–e shame, people cannot be trusted to do the right thing, Republican are sore looser, MCCAIN will do any thing to get elected, just as Bush did him, what a shame

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:30 pm 70. James Collins:

Rocketeer you make some good points. I once lived in a Democratic Machine controlled County for about 10 years. People there were so politically motivated that they voted for at least 15 or 20 years after being dead and buried. As long as petty, ignorant, malicious local thugs control registration, voting and vote counting, legitimate elections are in trouble. That was the point I was trying to make in mentioning the checkoff card system for Union organizing. A federally supervised election allows a worker to vote his conscience. Two thugs at his door, demonstrating that they know where his family lives, does not.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:30 pm 71. maryjane:

I wish we had early voting where I live. so I could get over and done withfor the first time inyears I can actually vote for someone and not say it is the lesser of two evils which I have said in the past or voted for Perot in the 90’s Yes we can I have to say it is not only the democrats that are accused of voter registration not fraud,while the republicans have been accused of actual voter fraud not just registration.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:40 pm 72. Timeforchange:

tanstaafl:

What you are talking about is voter registration fraud, not voter fraud. Independent research has shown that voter fraud is very rare. As pointed out, the travesty is election fraud, which the Republicans are notorious for. Have you seen the official looking flyer in Virginia telling Republicans to Vote on November 4th and the Democrats to vote on November 5th? And as for ties to Acorn, McCain himself has praised their work.

rocketeer: you’re position that voter fraud only occurs in democrat precincts is most likely based on the fact that that’s where the republicans do their best to intimidate voters and make things very difficult for the voters. there’s not actual fraud, but republicans make up reasons to invalidate the votes.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:40 pm 73. James Collins:

Mike, I forgot to tell you that Barry boy has expressed his support for the check off system for Union Organizers. If he is elected and follows through (although you can never depend on a politicion) you will see a resurging Union movement created by goon squads. Are you one of the faithful worshipers who is not aware of this little piece of chicanery? I prefer to vote in private at my work place or at the polls.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:50 pm 74. ed o brien:

1 its the economy
2 its the economy
3 its the economy, like buying good real estate. location location location. Buying the election its the economy, the economy, the economy.\
god bless those unaffected, god bless those that believe in the truth from fox news. god bless those who know what a derivative or a scrip or other option devices are.And god bless those who made millions, or billions from them before bringing the rest of us down. God bless john mccain’s deregulation policy. God bless 10 percent margin, no downpayment mortgages,and 27 percent credit card interest.and god bless the trickle down theory so that more money can be pumped into the australian and south american yacht markets or foreign homes, or invested in what has been till now an overinflated stock market. This is why we need change of anykind. or no. god bless more of the same.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:51 pm 75. Debra:

Wow like you can’t tell this is from a right winger republican…I think it’s funny that you think early voting isn’t fair…I bet if the polls were showing in McCains favor you wouldn’t be complaining. Don’t be such a sore loser…there is always Palin in 2012…LMAO
Oh and yeah let’s make it impossible for people who are homeless to vote…even though many are veterans who risked THEIR lives for you to have the freedoms to complain about losing.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:54 pm 76. seppoyank:

This article is the one of the most inane pieces of drivel I have ever seen published. And that, really, is saying something.

The hysterical author fails to make a logical case, and confuses early voting with absentee voting. I can assure you, as the overseas recipient of absentee ballots in three elections, that tampering with the ballot after the individual votes would be very obvious.

The remainder of the “arguments” made in this piece rely on “what if” scenarios of people breaking the law individually, but systematically. I can pass for my sister on her driver’s license…I could steal her license and go to vote with her license…but I don’t.

Actual cases of voter fraud are very limited, and if you really think caretaker children are out forging their parent’s ballots, professional help would probably be a good idea.

The real meat of the issue is that our long-time right wing government has ZERO interest in ensuring that every citizen of voting age does so. Stop the hysteria and accept that our democracy is improved by more people voting.

As for all of the arguments (and there are really only about three being made here, the only reason there are 10 is because they are sloppily divided so as to be even less rational) about things happening in the final days of the election…yes that is true, but NO ONE is being forced to vote early. It is a CHOICE and CHOICE is what democracy is all about.

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:04 pm 77. TexasJay:

If I as an individual chooses to work harder than some one else; I will be required to pay a higher percentage of income taxes. Apply this line of illogic to my right to vote … My vote should be worth a higher percentage!? WE all know this idea is absurd. ONE MAN ONE VOTE is the only honest fair thing to do. My concern for this nation is the willingness of some people to hide behind their sound bites.If a person does not have the most basic understanding and skills to vote correctly may be they should not vote. OH I can hear the yelling starting … You can not take away the right to vote from anyone etc. Lets carry this argument to a rediculous extreme.These same voters should be allowed to practice medicine even though they are grossly unqualified … Oh NO they would be endangering the public welfare… we must be protected from them!
But we as a nation are allowing them to be used as pawns to corrupt the voting process. There is a danger to the public welfare in which direction a leader chooses to take the nation. I am not advocating any type of voter testing. I am offering this simple thought. Let the people vote who chooses to register and show up to vote. Let free will and free effort determine who casts a ballot.Make public transportation available to an from polls.And to protect all sides against fraud require real identification.If you choose to vote you should also choose to be a functioning member of soceity. ONE PERSON ONE VOTE no more no less

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:08 pm 78. ron:

I have grown tired of the democrats in general, who continually find ways to cheat. First off, regarding the check off system…the labor unions here actually do mail the ballots where all democrats already are selected to their members…who obviously are not “forced” to use them,but the attempt is there.
Continual stories linking McCain to Bush, again a decepti0on by the Democrats who largely forget that McCain was nearly chosen as the running mate of John Kerry AGAINST Bush in 2004. So the outright lies are there, every day, in reality told by both sides, but in fact, the media jumps on each one by the (R) side, and lets slide each one by the(D) side.
For the person above bragging about your intelligence, there are so many of your type in the Democrat party, as well. For myself, I have a degree from West Point. I grow possibly the most tired of the MSM and the left, asserting nearly always that theirs is the more “intellectual”side, and that all who follow their opponents are fools. You , without saying so, made the same assertion here. Grow up.

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:36 pm 79. RRydberg:

To Frank,

You changed “partys”? Political science major? You didn’t learn much in college , did you? …And even less in grade school…Must be a Republican…

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:41 pm 80. Christine:

Two of my democrat friends (I’m a conservative) lied to vote early. They thought that the long lines would discourage people from waiting and wanted to allow just that many more to get in. I told them that I hoped they would never have to take a polygraph exam since they wouldn’t pass. Well, Obama wouldn’t pass either…

Also, I’m a newly registered voter for my state. Guess who stopped by my house on a Sunday afternoon trying to get me to vote for Obama?

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:53 pm 81. S.J:

Theres nothing wronge with early voting actually its great for everyone. Who wants to stand in a never ending line? People have lives. With so many people getting involved for the first time 3x record high of early votings It’s a very essential way to keep things MOVING in this modern day in age. And I’m glad to see my DEMOCRATIC people going to the polls in such big numbers. Lets get this ball rolling again like it was when Clinton was Pres. Those were the good old days. People were so easy going. When every day was a good day and you knew it was going to be!

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:57 pm 82. Pat Strickland:

I voted early because I have only 10% lung capacity and heart trouble. Somedays I can hardly get out of bed never mind leaving my house to vote early enabled me to go and vote for my preference (in person)on a day when I was well enough to be able to do so. I and others like me have as much right to be able to cast our votes as anyone out there do. Besides the electoral college elects the president. We can only tell it who we hope they pick,mot who they have to. Think on that and then yell. People, I put my real name on this not a made up one, something I notice a lot of people do(use a made up nane)because I can say to your face what I would say to your back.

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:01 pm 83. Chef in Blairsville:

It’s easy to see why my candidate, Barack Obama, and my party, the Democrats, are up in the polls. They seem to be all you conservatives can find to talk about. Thanks for the publicity!

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:04 pm 84. Anonymous:

Wow, any bitterness? I don’t know your political persuasion, but you sure sound like a sour grapes Republican.

Wah wah wah… you lose

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:07 pm 85. Myth Buster:

Dear Dan, I’m sorry to bust your bubble but a passport is an accepted ID for voting purposes. Most states do accept them and other states accept things such as a property tax bill or receipt for the current or preceding year, A
current utility bill, bank statement, pay check, or government check or document which shows name and address.

Perhaps you should try checking the facts before stating them as such. It’ll save you much embarrassment in the future.

Here’s a little link for you to bone up on what is and isn’t accepted for voting purposes.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:xW4vtiONs4UJ:www.pewcenteronthestates.org/uploadedFiles/voterID.laws.6.08.pdf+passports+for+voting+id&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:11 pm 86. AdrianS:

Sources: Sarkozy views Obama stance on Iran as ‘utterly immature’

French President Nicolas Sarkozy is very critical of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama’s positions on Iran, according to reports that have reached Israel’s government.

Sarkozy has made his criticisms only in closed forums in France. But according to a senior Israeli government source, the reports reaching Israel indicate that Sarkozy views the Democratic candidate’s stance on Iran as “utterly immature” and comprised of “formulations empty of all content.”

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031943.html

2008. The year The One (Barack Obama) … Lost.

Obamalies or Lies Obama Tells
http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=73

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:15 pm 87. Myth Buster:

Dear Ron, refresh my memory please. What party was it that first sued over vote counts in Florida. You know, the state who at that time had a republican governor(W.’s little brother Jeb), a republican secretary of state (Katherine Harris who had been named as Bush’s Florida campaign co-chair the year before) that ordered the recount stopped with thousands of ballots uncounted and ultimately a republican appointment heavy U.S. Supreme Court decision siding with the republicans?

That’s right, it was the Republican Party.

So Ron, like the saying goes, people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:19 pm 88. Emily from NC:

“Why is is that everyone who is opposed to requiring an id to vote is a democrat?”

Because the only people who have difficulty GETTING an ID are the poor, and the Republicans historically don’t care about them. People with lots of money have no difficulty obtaining an ID. If you’re seriously dirt poor and don’t drive, it’s much more difficult.

“If I as an individual chooses to work harder than some one else; I will be required to pay a higher percentage of income taxes.”

If it weren’t too complicated to manage, most liberals would be perfectly happy to put exemptions into the tax laws to protect people who are moving up the income ladder. Very few people actually want those who work harder to be punished for doing so! That’s counterproductive.

One of the reasons liberals get all into “tax the rich!” is that they hate people who did NOT work harder… people who were born into wealth and privilege and don’t have to do anything at all except sit around enjoying it. Even if you weren’t born with a silver spoon, having enough of a good start in life to get to adulthood healthy, well-educated, and well-connected gives you a massive advantage in how much money you can make later, without necessarily working harder than the schlub laboring long-hours at a low-paying job.

Of course, some are crazy and don’t want anyone to be rich at all. But really, that’s not most liberals.

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:27 pm 89. ATC333:

Gee guys, the solution to half of the problems raised by this article would simply be to eliminate voting period. That way, there would never be anything negative happening to any of the candidates, and the party and individuals in power could simply remain in power. Seriously though, No matter how you approach this, there will be problems. Some worry about voters voting twice, or registering as Mickey Mouse. (You really think Mickey will show up to vote?) I would be more worried about voter purges as implemented by several states than anything ACORN could do in their overzealous registration drives, or someone taking the trouble to drive all over the state to vote more than once. Look at Florida, they cannot handle the voter surge in this election over days, think of what it would be like if all Floridian’s voted in just one day!

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:30 pm 90. Homeless in Dallas:

Tito,
you there?

I’m not lazy, on drugs, or an alcoholic.

After reading your post,
I don’t think intolerant, hate-filled fascists should have a right to vote in this country.
I’ll enjoy exercising mine.

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:31 pm 91. OleHippieChick:

SYFPHs, republiturds. Enjoy the next two generations in the wilderness. How’s Jeffy?

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:41 pm 92. Tim H.:

WRONG!! What BS. You know who has complained about early voting? REPUBLICANS. Why is that? Geez I don’t know. I saw George Will complain and now this Tom guy. I early voted today and while it kinda sucked because it took over an hour (I am in Indianapolis, IN). It was a really nice day and line was very long. Inside everything was done in a professional manner. MORE importantly I know my votes were put down on a paper ballot, sealed and delivered to be counted. It’s not that most Obama supporters are voting early or that the GOP is worried about losing big and hoping for some October suprise. It’s about the following election rules of thumb that are being ruined by early voting. #1) Low turnout usually equates to Republicans doing better. But if early voting is going on. Then low turnout thru weather, job/family issues is negated on election day. 2) Complaints about harrassment in minority areas on election day. yes it goes on… Police cars parked around minority voting areas etc… To intimidate. It’s no coincidence alot of minority’s are voting early. I am white/Irish catholic (44-M) and I voted for Obama. Also there were several big name candidates at the early polling booth. I usually never see those candidates. But it’s just really interesting hearing some right leaning commentators complain about early voting. Corruption? As I said at top. What BS!!! What’s wrong Tom? Republicans are soo eager to push God, America and apple pie. Don’t you want the Democratic process of everyone who can vote possibly voting? The more eligible voters voting is great isn’t it? I remember when people bemoaned the lack of turnout. Oh that’s right. Actually it’s not good. Because high turnout is not good for the GOP. Republican party today loves call others un American. But when you really look at the Presidential campaign this year run by GOP. The Country First is soo amusing. It should be REPUBLICAN PARTY FIRST, Country second. Why is it that people put up Obama signs and they find them vandalized etc… But in general that doesn’t happen to McCain signs? Why is that TOM? I know a guy put Obama sign up and someone threw a dirty diaper in his yard next to it. The Republican party today (I voted for Reagan in 84)is soo ate up. That it’s pushing people away from it’s party every day. Yet the party still doesn’t GET what it’s doing. I see Palin up their spouting off. The things she is saying sounds great to the base. But Independents, Democrats etc… They aren’t buying anything she says. Guess what the Republican base is 30%. So if you want to cater to that BASE! My question is how is the Republican party going to win elections with 30% of the vote. Instead of acknowledging this point. The GOP yells voter fraud or accusses the next President of bacically being a friend to terorists. Pretty pathetic. I think I covered everything. Thanks for the time to rant Tom. Good nite.

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:47 pm 93. Tim H.:

One more comment after reading some comments. Alot of posters here seem to think if Obama wins this election that somehow voter fraud (Frank#9) is going to be the reason. Obama is going to kick McCain’s butt in this election. 350 plus electorial votes. Wait and see… Tom the only reason you are “bitching” is because you know McCain is going to lose big. This whole ACORN thing is a joke. ACORN was the one who notified selectiion officials. I agree hiring low income people and paying them on how many registered votes they get is not very bright. However how is someone registered as daffy Duck going to show up and actually be allowed to vote? States also now make you show a valid ID. Indiana does and it was ruled legal by supreme court. Calling ACORN thugs, Obama campaign scary for it’s efficiency and blaming the MSM for Obama winning is soo pathetic. McCain has run an awful campaign and that’s why he is going to lose BIG. His whole campaign acts like a bunch whiny, school kids who are envious. McCain on Larry King whining that credit cards are not being verified by Obama’s donors. I sent Obama $25 and yes if you figure out millions of people send Obama $50 overall. How much is that? Obama has changed campaigning and he has mastered the campaign. If he governsas well as he runs a campaign. Obama will do well as President. You watch. Politicians in future will study Obama’s campaign.

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:07 pm 94. Texasjay:

People this is real simple. Go vote your conscious. Help some one get to the polls to vote; allow them to vote their conscious. Then go home and look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself did I cheat? If the answer is a honest no, then you represent what is right about this country. If you have to lie to yourself then you do not deserve to to ask anything of this country. You have put yourself and your beliefs ahead of democracy.

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:26 pm 95. tanstaafl:

As pointed out, the travesty is election fraud, which the Republicans are notorious for.

I think I had that discussion already with “yoda”, although, I don’t imagine many of my points got through.

Or are you he ?

I continue to be appalled at “early voting” and candidates (esp. Barack Obama) encouraging the folks who have just been to one of the rallies to do it early, as in right now.

My position will not change, despite allusions, name calling, aspersions cast or any other technique or tactic.

As the writer of this article indicates, early voting is a travesty, not to mention another nail in the coffin of democratic processes.

(most of the liberals or “progressives” I’ve encountered on the net don’t care about principles and will do anything, virtually anything, to win)

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:13 pm 96. vivo:

93. Tim H.:

You said the right things!

Everyone: read and learn.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:31 pm 97. Prayer request and links around | The Anchoress:

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Oct 30, 2008 - 8:38 pm 98. I belong to the Diggers:

Vote Early, Vote Often!
And then maybe the high sheriff will not forcefully remove us from St. George’s Hill.

But the power and corruption of the elite upper class will continue to run down the hill to drown the average person in sewage.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:38 pm 99. nlcatter:

AdrianS – even the French embassy says you are a Bloody liar.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:05 pm 100. ron:

NLcatter…actually double check your facts, it was a reporteed AP story within the past several days.
There is nothing really wrong with early voting, except, as the writer here says, that many times, some information is not gotten until late. Everybody is entitled to a vote, but a democracy cannot survive when its voters vote based upon emotion rather than facts. 100% of my African-American friends, have made it clear they plan to vote for Obama. In every case in which I asked for the reason, it was because they wanted to see an African American president. If whites reversed this, it would be called racism. The early votes for Obama, are mostly based upon this…how else to explain a vote for someone who not much is really even known about…were I to vote for him(still a possibility, I am an independent) I would need to use as much time as possible to investigate him, as McCain is a known entity,but Obama has zero leadership experience, and has been campaigning for president for half of his (incomplete) first senate term…. it requires much more thought than just “he is not Bush”….McCain is not Bush, either…either way is ‘change’…so I see no reason to rush to decision, and were I to ‘vote early’ it would most certainly be for the candidate I at least know where he stands, which is McCain.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:59 pm 101. bud:

To 39. Pat K.

I live in OR, too, and I like the convenience of the mail-in ballot, BUT… I still don’t want it. You say there hasn’t been any voter fraud; I say they just haven’t been caught, mainly because no one is interested in looking.

Paper ballots at local polling places results in the equivalent of double entry bookeeping. There are multiple tallies by different people, many non-professional volunteers, at different locations, all of which have to add up. Vote-by-mail concentrates all the counting to a single location in the county, by government employees. Have you noticed that not a single bond measure, supplying money to the government, has failed by a narrow margin since we started this “grand experiment”? Plenty have passed by a narrow margin or failed hugely, but not failed narrowly. That suggests to me that there is fraud going on.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:29 pm 102. nlcatter:

it was NOT aan AP story you provdied no link

it was haaretz which is a Jew paper pushing israel

and France said it was bullshit here is the link you GDSMF

A crisp diplomatic communiqué from the French embassy in Washington flung the cold freedom fries back in the face of the nameless rumor-mongers:::

The remarks attributed by the newspaper Haaretz to the President of the French Republic concerning Senator Obama’s positions on Iran are groundless. To the contrary, the in-depth discussions between the President of the Republic and Senator Obama on Iran during their meeting in Paris in July demonstrated a broad convergence of views on this issue. President Sarkozy and Senator Obama agree to oppose Iran’s development of a military nuclear capability.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jan-mcgirk/conservative-israeli-dail_b_138878.html

Oct 31, 2008 - 7:33 am 103. Arnold:

And isn’t it a coincidence that he slipped & referred to “my Muslim religion”…….
What’s in the heart comes out via the tongue!
From Rush Limbaugh’s radio show …..
You are aware, probably, that Barack Obama lost his bearings recently and said that he was going to campaign in all 57 states.You heard this? And most everybody chalked it up to, ‘Well, he’s tired.’You know, this is a Dan Quayle moment. I mean, Dan Quayle goes out there and misspells ‘potato,’ and we still hear jokes about it. Barack Obama says he’s gonna go out and campaign in 57 states! He was just tired, you know, it’s been such a long campaign, he’s been so many places, he probably thinks there are 57 states. Well, I have here a printout from a web site called the International Humanist and Ethical Union. ‘Every year from 1999 to 2005 the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states presented a resolution to the United Nations Commission on human rights called commbating.’

Obama said he’s going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out that there are 57 Islamic states.
So did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip, ladies and gentlemen?

KEEP IT GOING, FOLKS! Our future is at stake…Make no mistake about it.

Oct 31, 2008 - 8:17 am 104. nlcatter:

got to many PJ links to visit

faking an AP link was the last straw on this one

Oct 31, 2008 - 8:18 am 105. Steve J:

Wow, looks like we’ve got a new crop of tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists.

I especially liked Arnold’s deviation into the whole 57 state Islamic thing. Wooo Hooo, someone’s gotta lay off the crazy juice.

Oct 31, 2008 - 12:24 pm 106. Golightly:

You Democraps can suck on my “dangling chads’……….Take your large earred empty suit messiah & stick him where the sun never shines…this BS sickens me.

Oct 31, 2008 - 4:10 pm 107. ATLNATIVE:

I’m sorry but there appears to be a lot of people that can stay all day in line on Tuesday. Most people have made up their minds and no matter who wins – I pray they and their team do a great job leading this country. Some of us have healthcare jobs and don’t have the luxury to waiting in line – for what will truly be at least 2 hour wait in most populous places. I like the feeling of actually voting instead of some Absentee Ballot or Mailing in my ballot.

Oct 31, 2008 - 5:18 pm 108. Dennis:

What about the fact that the voting locations in many cities simply can’t handle the volume of the voters if it tried to stick to a ‘one day’ system. I live in Atlanta, and I still had to wait 3 hours on Tuesday the week BEFORE the election to vote. I cringe to see what lines there will be on the offical date… I can see many walking away and not even having the option to vote.

Oct 31, 2008 - 5:27 pm 109. MyFellowAmerican:

Can you Dems please stop talking about the 2000/2004 Florida chad fiasco? Just think of it this way, had Gore won, we may have never been blessed with “The Inconvenient Truth that I ate my weight in twinkies after losing to Bush” I think that was the name of his book. HeHe

It’s undeniable more of you Dems are voting early… cuz were working. HeHeHe

Lastly, be prepaired my fellow conservative brethern, if McCain pulls this out, the Democrats will be re-counting until the next election (2012). HeHeHeHe

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:00 pm 110. MyFellowAmerican:

The Homeless have computer’s now(#90)? WTF this really IS the greatest country on earth!

Ron -West Point Huh? Impressive.
My niece and nephew -Naval Academy, possibly another nephew on his way.

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:11 pm 111. Greg:

Is anyone “bothered” by the effects on free and fair elections? Well, some people probably are, but that’s irrelevant. Those exact effects — corrupting elections — are the PURPOSE of these new rules. The Left (as opposed to liberals) hate the country, and they are pretty honest about their willingness to use any means to exact their form of “change,” which is cowardly subversion of the constitution. They lack the will and the integrity to change it by honest measures. Draft an amendment or two if you really enjoy European socialism! But no … let’s just cheat. It’s cheaper and a lot more fun.

Nov 1, 2008 - 12:59 am 112. Pajamas Media » What If It Were More Than an Infomercial?:

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Nov 1, 2008 - 1:38 am 113. BizzyBlog » Early Voting Is a Travesty:

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Nov 1, 2008 - 4:53 am 114. tanstaafl:

But the power and corruption of the elite upper class will continue to run down the hill to drown the average person in sewage.

Anyone drowning in sewage has only to look in the mirror for the cause.

Nov 1, 2008 - 6:30 am 115. Jason:

To the person who critized using a park bench as an address: shall we go back to the days of yore, when only white landowning males could vote?? You are an idiot.

Nov 1, 2008 - 8:07 am 116. Marc Malone:

Jason – Actually, right now, that seems like not too bad a suggestion. I kinda like the idea that if you don’t own the house you live in, you can’t vote. Those who lack basic life skills shouldn’t be voting. Besides, it seems that most blacks just seem to hate America. How else would black liberation theology churches like UTCC thrive?

Now, the above was the opposite extreme equivalent of your position. If you can’t provide proof of citizenship and State residence, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. All it does is invite voter fraud.

Some people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. If they are so bad off as to be considered incompetent to stand trial, they shouldn’t vote. Do homeless or mentally incompetent people serve on juries? I know, I know: Apparently. The point is, there are necessary and reasonable restrictions on voting, just as there are for free speech. Somewhere, we must draw a line.

Nov 1, 2008 - 2:23 pm 117. Travesty, Travesty, Military Votes Disallowed and More « The Sassy Tn’T PoLITicallY InCorrect:

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Nov 1, 2008 - 7:10 pm 118. SeaSpray:

I totally disagree with the early voting process other than what it was originally set up for.

I find this campaign to be particularly disturbing and am both appalled and disappointed at the media bias on most fronts, the early voting…which I do not trust as it is being carried out and the acorn debacle with federal investigations looking into voting fraud in all the swing states.

I see all this and it is surreal and am astounded that in this day and age these things are allowed to perpetuate.

For the first time ever…I have lost respect for journalists I had previously followed, even when I didn’t agree with them and I believe they have compromised their journalistic integrity.

Nov 1, 2008 - 8:20 pm 119. CINDY FRANKEL:

THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST CORRUPT ELECTION EVER RUN COURTESY OF ACORN AND CORRUPT JUDGES AND VOTER ELECTION BOARDS- I AM NOT A REPUBLICN ABUT I CAN SEE HWO REPUBLICANS WOULD BE FURIOUS THIS SI CCXIS CLEARLY FAVORING OBAMA BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY IF WE LOSE THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTER PROCESS THEN WE BECOME NOTHING MORE THAN A BANAN REPUBLIC OR SOCIALIST COUNTRY — I CANNOT IMGAINE ACORN CONTROLLING THIS COUNTRY — I AM A DEMOCRAT HWO CANNOT VOTE FOR OBAMA AS I AM TERRIFIED OF HIS CORRUPTION AND SOCIALISM –I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW AMERICANS CAN SY ATHAT IF REPUBLICANS MYA HAVE CORUPT ELECTIONS IN THE PAST THEN WE CAN’T TALK ABOUT IT NOW -2 WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT AND

Nov 2, 2008 - 12:56 pm 120. Someone75:

Marc Malone:

What’s your issue with Obama helping his supporters vote? If McCain had the organization and the man-power, he’d be doing it too. Since everyone has the right to vote, why not help us flex that right? Why keep someone from voting? Why make it harder for people to vote? I’ve seen voter intimidation and misinformation coming from the conservatives that far outweighs anything ACORN has ever done.

Nov 2, 2008 - 1:11 pm 121. Twisted Spinster » Blog Archive » Why I’m not voting early:

[...] don’t think early voting is a travesty, though. However, some of the objections to it on this list (I haven’t read the whole thing, [...]

Nov 2, 2008 - 6:55 pm 122. Marc Malone:

Someone75 – Why make it harder? Well, gee, maybe to cut back on election-rigging by both parties? People who want to vote will happily go through a couple hoops to vote. Those who won’t, don’t know enough to vote reasonably anyway.

Well, lookee, turns out Obama hates coal. Duh! I wonder how many people are now wishing they had not voted early? Joke’s on them. This is why early voting is nonsense, because something like this could break at the last minute.

Nov 3, 2008 - 5:00 am 123. Election 2008: Counting Down the Hours | "Girl Chat":

[...] releasing of such results has prompted PajamasMedia to call early voting “a travesty… corrupted… and de facto exit polling.” When Oprah voted early, her electronic touchscreen machine [...]

Nov 4, 2008 - 12:02 pm 124. BizzyBlog » The Ad Age President Who ‘Killed Election Day’:

[...] 2000 and Obama 2008 underscore my strong belief that no-excuses early voting is a dangerous travesty, and that voting rules should return to the traditional absentee balloting criteria of previous [...]

Nov 15, 2008 - 10:04 am

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