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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/empty-promises-on-school-vouchers/comment-page-1/#comment-244384</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When school children start paying union dues, that&#039;s when I&#039;ll start representing the interests of school children.&quot;

--AFT founder Albert Shanker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When school children start paying union dues, that&#8217;s when I&#8217;ll start representing the interests of school children.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;AFT founder Albert Shanker</p>
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		<title>By: gcblues</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcblues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Bennet was correct. the election of odumbo was a direct result of public schooling.

Friedman was correct.the only route to a better educated populace is over the dead bodies of public schools and their cynical unions.

either public eduction is destroyed, or it will destroy the usa. public school products make this clear. period. end of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Bennet was correct. the election of odumbo was a direct result of public schooling.</p>
<p>Friedman was correct.the only route to a better educated populace is over the dead bodies of public schools and their cynical unions.</p>
<p>either public eduction is destroyed, or it will destroy the usa. public school products make this clear. period. end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Shakes</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/empty-promises-on-school-vouchers/comment-page-1/#comment-240444</link>
		<dc:creator>Shakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan just told this years recruits for vouchers that they no longer were going to get them.

I posted this question on Jay P. Greene&#039;s blog.

It that legal?  Didn&#039;t Congress make the law on this?  Aren&#039;t those people legally allowed to take advantage of the program.  Is the Secretary of Education allowed to just stop people from entering the program?

If he is allowed to do that, Congress would never have to kill the program anyway.  He could just refuse to let any families take advantage of that.

Doesn&#039;t Congress still make the laws in this country?  I still don&#039;t get it.  If they want to kill the program with a new law let them kill it.  I can&#039;t see how Duncan can do this.

I am open to anyone explaining it to a simpleton like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan just told this years recruits for vouchers that they no longer were going to get them.</p>
<p>I posted this question on Jay P. Greene&#8217;s blog.</p>
<p>It that legal?  Didn&#8217;t Congress make the law on this?  Aren&#8217;t those people legally allowed to take advantage of the program.  Is the Secretary of Education allowed to just stop people from entering the program?</p>
<p>If he is allowed to do that, Congress would never have to kill the program anyway.  He could just refuse to let any families take advantage of that.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t Congress still make the laws in this country?  I still don&#8217;t get it.  If they want to kill the program with a new law let them kill it.  I can&#8217;t see how Duncan can do this.</p>
<p>I am open to anyone explaining it to a simpleton like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyphenated American</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyphenated American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vouchers would cause irreperable harm to the liberal control of education - think of unions and buerucracies. Moreover, vouchers would lead to a much better educated Americans and much more independent parents. Therefore, DNC will never allow vouchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vouchers would cause irreperable harm to the liberal control of education &#8211; think of unions and buerucracies. Moreover, vouchers would lead to a much better educated Americans and much more independent parents. Therefore, DNC will never allow vouchers.</p>
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		<title>By: TurfMonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurfMonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The accountability lies with the parents and their ability to chose whichever school they will send their children to.  If one of the voucher schools isn&#039;t performing, the parents are in the position to see this first hand and will have the opportunity to correct this problem with the choice that vouchers gives them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The accountability lies with the parents and their ability to chose whichever school they will send their children to.  If one of the voucher schools isn&#8217;t performing, the parents are in the position to see this first hand and will have the opportunity to correct this problem with the choice that vouchers gives them.</p>
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		<title>By: ic</title>
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		<dc:creator>ic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arroyo: answer: zero.

The parents who need the vouchers for their kids vote Democrats. Democrats are bad for my kids, but they promise my kids welfare payments when they can&#039;t get a job dropping out from the public schools. They look after us when my husband lost his job. His factory closed, the employer couldn&#039;t afford the union demands. But we are alright, we are getting our welfare checks on time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arroyo: answer: zero.</p>
<p>The parents who need the vouchers for their kids vote Democrats. Democrats are bad for my kids, but they promise my kids welfare payments when they can&#8217;t get a job dropping out from the public schools. They look after us when my husband lost his job. His factory closed, the employer couldn&#8217;t afford the union demands. But we are alright, we are getting our welfare checks on time.</p>
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		<title>By: Arroyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arroyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teacher&#039;s unions, large campaign contributors, are against vouchers; therefore, the Democrat Party is against vouchers.  I wonder how many in Congress send their children to public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teacher&#8217;s unions, large campaign contributors, are against vouchers; therefore, the Democrat Party is against vouchers.  I wonder how many in Congress send their children to public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: John Peterson</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/empty-promises-on-school-vouchers/comment-page-1/#comment-240331</link>
		<dc:creator>John Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly you. Panic! The study mentions a number of times other factors that have gone into public school improvements. From the pages of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel you can find deeper more unbiased analysis. Many parties in the study are pro-voucher advocates. The odd racial comments here demonstrate either guilt for your own biases or an excuse to utter mindless rhetoric. 

Not that I&#039;m promoting my blog, but I have been writing about this for the last few years. 
Do a search of my blog for &quot;vouchers,&quot; and all the relevant study details will come up. Yes my own comments are in there too, but are separate. Basically, schools have been improving anyway, regardless of competition, and the study researchers have said in the analysis, that no conclusion is certain. 

As for the little problems most voucher advocates ignore, like for profit education and future escalating tuitions, good schools bad schools, no accountability and better students with concerned parents leaving the public schools for private, I would have to say the jury is still out. 

Check out information, and the recommended educational blogs at my site that have also been following this on a more professional level. 

http://democurmudgeon.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly you. Panic! The study mentions a number of times other factors that have gone into public school improvements. From the pages of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel you can find deeper more unbiased analysis. Many parties in the study are pro-voucher advocates. The odd racial comments here demonstrate either guilt for your own biases or an excuse to utter mindless rhetoric. </p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m promoting my blog, but I have been writing about this for the last few years.<br />
Do a search of my blog for &#8220;vouchers,&#8221; and all the relevant study details will come up. Yes my own comments are in there too, but are separate. Basically, schools have been improving anyway, regardless of competition, and the study researchers have said in the analysis, that no conclusion is certain. </p>
<p>As for the little problems most voucher advocates ignore, like for profit education and future escalating tuitions, good schools bad schools, no accountability and better students with concerned parents leaving the public schools for private, I would have to say the jury is still out. </p>
<p>Check out information, and the recommended educational blogs at my site that have also been following this on a more professional level. </p>
<p><a href="http://democurmudgeon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://democurmudgeon.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sk8 Punk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sk8 Punk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is obscene. But the democrats can get away with it.  They are doing the same thing in Colorado.  Their governor and their party was wildly off in budget forecasting, and currently in the process of cutting budgets by about 61% for higher education.  This is catastrophic.  It means the higher ed system in Colorado will be sent back to the dark ages.  Republicans in the state have offered reasonable solutions, but the democrats don&#039;t want to go there for the same reason the national party can get away with this:

Democrats count on certain demographics voting for them no matter what.  Academics and poor blacks will always vote for them, so why not hurt those demographics?  Now it is unlikely that conservatives can make any immediate gains with academia (although one of my leftist colleagues frankly admitted the Republicans had better plans).  PJ Media can send Joe the Plumber abroad.  Why can&#039;t you guys get some video of the families being hurt by this hypocrisy?  They are out there and more than willing to talk.  Make some good, fact based videos with the appropriate tear jerk interviews, and some great cuts of the children affected by this, and then make those videos viral.  Market em to the Republicans for 2010.  Minorities are open to thinking outside the box in this one.  I know- I was a poor minority most of my life.  Hispanics are especially open on these issues, but most blacks I have talked to are too.  Get on it- Speak Truth to Power, as the cliche goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is obscene. But the democrats can get away with it.  They are doing the same thing in Colorado.  Their governor and their party was wildly off in budget forecasting, and currently in the process of cutting budgets by about 61% for higher education.  This is catastrophic.  It means the higher ed system in Colorado will be sent back to the dark ages.  Republicans in the state have offered reasonable solutions, but the democrats don&#8217;t want to go there for the same reason the national party can get away with this:</p>
<p>Democrats count on certain demographics voting for them no matter what.  Academics and poor blacks will always vote for them, so why not hurt those demographics?  Now it is unlikely that conservatives can make any immediate gains with academia (although one of my leftist colleagues frankly admitted the Republicans had better plans).  PJ Media can send Joe the Plumber abroad.  Why can&#8217;t you guys get some video of the families being hurt by this hypocrisy?  They are out there and more than willing to talk.  Make some good, fact based videos with the appropriate tear jerk interviews, and some great cuts of the children affected by this, and then make those videos viral.  Market em to the Republicans for 2010.  Minorities are open to thinking outside the box in this one.  I know- I was a poor minority most of my life.  Hispanics are especially open on these issues, but most blacks I have talked to are too.  Get on it- Speak Truth to Power, as the cliche goes.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really simple issue. The Democrats, frankly, are racists on this one, though no one will call them on it. Barack Obama sends his girls to a pricey private school, but takes steps to make certain that those who can&#039;t afford the $30K/year tuition don&#039;t have the same opportunity. Some of his supporters actually call those who support vouchers racist, usually because of the devastation they&#039;d supposedly inflict on the public school system and its teacher contingent, which is heavily minority. Interestingly, Ariana Huffington, last I heard, sends her kids to private school also, but advocates that those who can&#039;t afford it should be forced to send their kids to public schools, even when the schools are failing. The whole thing is ridiculous, and incredibly hypocritical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really simple issue. The Democrats, frankly, are racists on this one, though no one will call them on it. Barack Obama sends his girls to a pricey private school, but takes steps to make certain that those who can&#8217;t afford the $30K/year tuition don&#8217;t have the same opportunity. Some of his supporters actually call those who support vouchers racist, usually because of the devastation they&#8217;d supposedly inflict on the public school system and its teacher contingent, which is heavily minority. Interestingly, Ariana Huffington, last I heard, sends her kids to private school also, but advocates that those who can&#8217;t afford it should be forced to send their kids to public schools, even when the schools are failing. The whole thing is ridiculous, and incredibly hypocritical.</p>
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