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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the openly gay Nathan Lane involved with this piece?

Trumbo&#039;s pal Uncle Joe would have had him thrown in the gulag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the openly gay Nathan Lane involved with this piece?</p>
<p>Trumbo&#8217;s pal Uncle Joe would have had him thrown in the gulag.</p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/emtrumbo-whitewashing-the-life-of-a-blacklisted-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-78320</link>
		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Miller:
u r right
ruling class used to enjoy unprecedented and unbelievable material wealth under soviet times

from what i saw: level of life KGB colonel was equal to  level of  millionaires in the west

level of a general was like a billionaire level

they know why they are in the game and are very highly motivated

then show business people in the west: they are not rocket scientists, they are VERY easily manipulated and technique of manipulation is a very strong point of communist rulers, the strongest skill they developed in 90 years of active measures</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Miller:<br />
u r right<br />
ruling class used to enjoy unprecedented and unbelievable material wealth under soviet times</p>
<p>from what i saw: level of life KGB colonel was equal to  level of  millionaires in the west</p>
<p>level of a general was like a billionaire level</p>
<p>they know why they are in the game and are very highly motivated</p>
<p>then show business people in the west: they are not rocket scientists, they are VERY easily manipulated and technique of manipulation is a very strong point of communist rulers, the strongest skill they developed in 90 years of active measures</p>
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		<title>By: Whitehall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitehall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is, if the Hollywood infrastructure is so anti-American, why hasn&#039;t an alternate source of films arose to satisfy the demand?

As for me, I very seldom attend movies anymore.  The last few were so full of liberal plot subversions that I just stopped going.  Remember the climax of &quot;Sweet Home Alabama&quot;?  Why should the climax be a gay wedding?

Time for some elite turnover in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is, if the Hollywood infrastructure is so anti-American, why hasn&#8217;t an alternate source of films arose to satisfy the demand?</p>
<p>As for me, I very seldom attend movies anymore.  The last few were so full of liberal plot subversions that I just stopped going.  Remember the climax of &#8220;Sweet Home Alabama&#8221;?  Why should the climax be a gay wedding?</p>
<p>Time for some elite turnover in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why are they hot after the high life, with tons of money, properties, cars, women, etc, and still given over to socialist dogma?&quot;

The ruling class has to have fun, even under Communism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why are they hot after the high life, with tons of money, properties, cars, women, etc, and still given over to socialist dogma?&#8221;</p>
<p>The ruling class has to have fun, even under Communism.</p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred

i remember Howard Stern words from 10 -15 years back:

he was interviewing some actor or some one else from film industry

he said something to the effect:
the fact that these people appear in the movies and pretend so well(playing their role) doesn&#039;t mean tat they are smart at all

they are actually very stupid people

i may say same goes for writers like trumbo

or may be he had a weak spot and it was cleverly exploited by the enemy

and one more thing:

people tend to never believe that something bad is going to happen directly to them. to others- may be but not to them

it is like after 9-11 new yorkers forgot how it was

and NO ONE is thinking about the coming attack

which to me is just a very stupid idiocy : 9-11 was a successful test of american inability to protect ourselvs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred</p>
<p>i remember Howard Stern words from 10 -15 years back:</p>
<p>he was interviewing some actor or some one else from film industry</p>
<p>he said something to the effect:<br />
the fact that these people appear in the movies and pretend so well(playing their role) doesn&#8217;t mean tat they are smart at all</p>
<p>they are actually very stupid people</p>
<p>i may say same goes for writers like trumbo</p>
<p>or may be he had a weak spot and it was cleverly exploited by the enemy</p>
<p>and one more thing:</p>
<p>people tend to never believe that something bad is going to happen directly to them. to others- may be but not to them</p>
<p>it is like after 9-11 new yorkers forgot how it was</p>
<p>and NO ONE is thinking about the coming attack</p>
<p>which to me is just a very stupid idiocy : 9-11 was a successful test of american inability to protect ourselvs</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kabud,

I&#039;m still stuck on the contradiction inherent in some of these Hollywood Weasels:  why are they hot after the high life, with tons of money, properties, cars, women, etc, and still given over to socialist dogma?  I highly doubt Mr. Trumbo would have wanted to live on a collective or work in a factory and bask in the glory of being called a comrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kabud,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still stuck on the contradiction inherent in some of these Hollywood Weasels:  why are they hot after the high life, with tons of money, properties, cars, women, etc, and still given over to socialist dogma?  I highly doubt Mr. Trumbo would have wanted to live on a collective or work in a factory and bask in the glory of being called a comrade.</p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Conway: you just got on the list.

Now, may we have your real name, social and adress?
anyway we can find you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Conway: you just got on the list.</p>
<p>Now, may we have your real name, social and adress?<br />
anyway we can find you</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Conway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Conway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blacklists should be resurrected.
And the first names, as dangers to the country, though nitwits, should come from here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blacklists should be resurrected.<br />
And the first names, as dangers to the country, though nitwits, should come from here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Conway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Conway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where am I? Hershey, Pa?
I&#039;ve never seen so many nuts in my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where am I? Hershey, Pa?<br />
I&#8217;ve never seen so many nuts in my life.</p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred:

several reasons why &lt;i&gt;hollyshit&lt;/i&gt; people are communist perverts:


1.
lenin gave cinema a very huge boost: every one in ussr knows his slogan:

THE MOST IMPORTANT ART FOR US IS CINEMA

usually healthy anticommunists   from sovok add to it this :

BECAUSE WITH THE CINEMA WE CAN MANIPUILATE IDIOTS TO THE UNPRECEDENTED DEGREE

I used to see this slogan all over in sovok. Lenin KNEW how to influence morons better then devil himslef

hence:

2.
lots of early cinema came from soviet russia and Ukraine of course(Dovjenko)

So unprecedented ACTIVE MEASURES were applied at all aspects of movie making:

subversion, bribing, threats, plots of different kinds, honey traps, murder, blackmail

lots of it will never surface but lots of it is known and well described in the article and not just in this article: 
-----------

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13032
The plain fact is that anti-Soviet or anti-Communist films not only do not win Academy Awards in the U.S., they do not even get made.
..
The reason for this want of anti-Soviet films has been well documented in Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley&#039;s Hollywood Party: How Communism Seduced the American Film Industry in the 1930s and 1940s. The 1930s and &#039;40s, writes Billingsley, saw thick veins of Communist influence running through the Hollywood studio system. Studio Stalinism, the underground movement to smuggle Communist ideology into American cinema, found a surplus of useful idiots in Hollywood, many of them disillusioned with capitalism and enamored with the so-called Russian Experiment.
-------------------------------

THIS IS A PERFECT MATERIAL FOR A REALLY GOOD FILM
IF ANYONE GETS INTERESTED WE CAN NEGOTIATE A PRODUCTION PROJECT TO CONFRONT THE ANTI_AMERICAN PROCOMMUNIST ENEMY


Also, about a week ago i was reading about Krivonis-Symchych, a Ukrainian UPA fighter, who is still alive at 85.

In the 40s his 100 guys member brigade managed to encircle and destroy an NKVD DIVISION of several thousands or more bastards, the exactly same NKVD division that deported Crimea Tatars , Chechens and conducted millions atrocities.


Kryvonis spent 50-60-70-up to the mid 80s in jails and camps of GULAG
Miraculously survived and returned home finally.

Once in the camp he lead other prisoners against the group of 200 criminals who were terrorizing inmates: at night they sealed the barrack with criminals and put it on fire.

No one survived, they killed all 200 bastards.

KGB was not able to make a SINGLE person talk in the investigation.

NO ONE talked. That was there spirit.

There was a picture of young Kryvonis in that article here

http://ua.pravda.com.ua/files/8/_Picture_file_path_8525.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fred:</p>
<p>several reasons why <i>hollyshit</i> people are communist perverts:</p>
<p>1.<br />
lenin gave cinema a very huge boost: every one in ussr knows his slogan:</p>
<p>THE MOST IMPORTANT ART FOR US IS CINEMA</p>
<p>usually healthy anticommunists   from sovok add to it this :</p>
<p>BECAUSE WITH THE CINEMA WE CAN MANIPUILATE IDIOTS TO THE UNPRECEDENTED DEGREE</p>
<p>I used to see this slogan all over in sovok. Lenin KNEW how to influence morons better then devil himslef</p>
<p>hence:</p>
<p>2.<br />
lots of early cinema came from soviet russia and Ukraine of course(Dovjenko)</p>
<p>So unprecedented ACTIVE MEASURES were applied at all aspects of movie making:</p>
<p>subversion, bribing, threats, plots of different kinds, honey traps, murder, blackmail</p>
<p>lots of it will never surface but lots of it is known and well described in the article and not just in this article:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13032" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13032</a><br />
The plain fact is that anti-Soviet or anti-Communist films not only do not win Academy Awards in the U.S., they do not even get made.<br />
..<br />
The reason for this want of anti-Soviet films has been well documented in Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley&#8217;s Hollywood Party: How Communism Seduced the American Film Industry in the 1930s and 1940s. The 1930s and &#8217;40s, writes Billingsley, saw thick veins of Communist influence running through the Hollywood studio system. Studio Stalinism, the underground movement to smuggle Communist ideology into American cinema, found a surplus of useful idiots in Hollywood, many of them disillusioned with capitalism and enamored with the so-called Russian Experiment.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>THIS IS A PERFECT MATERIAL FOR A REALLY GOOD FILM<br />
IF ANYONE GETS INTERESTED WE CAN NEGOTIATE A PRODUCTION PROJECT TO CONFRONT THE ANTI_AMERICAN PROCOMMUNIST ENEMY</p>
<p>Also, about a week ago i was reading about Krivonis-Symchych, a Ukrainian UPA fighter, who is still alive at 85.</p>
<p>In the 40s his 100 guys member brigade managed to encircle and destroy an NKVD DIVISION of several thousands or more bastards, the exactly same NKVD division that deported Crimea Tatars , Chechens and conducted millions atrocities.</p>
<p>Kryvonis spent 50-60-70-up to the mid 80s in jails and camps of GULAG<br />
Miraculously survived and returned home finally.</p>
<p>Once in the camp he lead other prisoners against the group of 200 criminals who were terrorizing inmates: at night they sealed the barrack with criminals and put it on fire.</p>
<p>No one survived, they killed all 200 bastards.</p>
<p>KGB was not able to make a SINGLE person talk in the investigation.</p>
<p>NO ONE talked. That was there spirit.</p>
<p>There was a picture of young Kryvonis in that article here</p>
<p><a href="http://ua.pravda.com.ua/files/8/_Picture_file_path_8525.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://ua.pravda.com.ua/files/8/_Picture_file_path_8525.jpg</a></p>
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