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		<title>By: San Francisco Sentinel &#187; Blog Archives &#187; CAN MUSLIMS AND GAYS COEXIST IN EUROPE</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Francisco Sentinel &#187; Blog Archives &#187; CAN MUSLIMS AND GAYS COEXIST IN EUROPE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 07:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] example, Bawer notes that in November 2007, &#8220;the deputy chairman of Norway&#8217;s Islamic Council, Asghar Ali, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Norwegian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norwegian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hæ?
&quot;Why would Norway’s history of collaboration and surrender reverse itself to defend its few gay citizens
when it winks at the organization of surviving Norwegian traitors who fought the Allies in Hitler’s military in France holding regular reunions and gatherings.&quot;

1) The Soviets had the most sacrifices during WW2, they lost aboout 20 mill people. USA did not save us alone. Also we had a resistance, against people like Quisling, thank you very much. 

Bawer is a brilliant man, but please relieve us from americans who think they saved the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hæ?<br />
&#8220;Why would Norway’s history of collaboration and surrender reverse itself to defend its few gay citizens<br />
when it winks at the organization of surviving Norwegian traitors who fought the Allies in Hitler’s military in France holding regular reunions and gatherings.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) The Soviets had the most sacrifices during WW2, they lost aboout 20 mill people. USA did not save us alone. Also we had a resistance, against people like Quisling, thank you very much. </p>
<p>Bawer is a brilliant man, but please relieve us from americans who think they saved the world.</p>
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		<title>By: wileysnakeskins</title>
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		<dc:creator>wileysnakeskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and by the way, there is no discussion in islam about homosexuals being put to death; that&#039;s just the way it is, the quran, hadith and mohammed, can&#039;t be changed, overruled or rethought out, it&#039;s the word of allah.
United States of ChristianAmericanPatriots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by the way, there is no discussion in islam about homosexuals being put to death; that&#8217;s just the way it is, the quran, hadith and mohammed, can&#8217;t be changed, overruled or rethought out, it&#8217;s the word of allah.<br />
United States of ChristianAmericanPatriots</p>
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		<title>By: wileysnakeskins</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/european-muslims-debate-should-gays-be-executed/comment-page-2/#comment-116099</link>
		<dc:creator>wileysnakeskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching those two gays hanged in the islamic republic of Iran, was the perfect example of the islam a religion of peace. All who wish to, or sit sleepily by while all of Europe is placed under sharia can just sit on their coward asses and wait for the religious police to come get yo punk ass. Give Me Liberty or Me Death; literally what it&#039;s going to take and until Europe wakes up and rolls up its sleeves and starts knocking down the doors of mosques and madrassas and start throwing these ignorant hate filled, death loving idiots out of their countries, sharia is what Europe will have, as soon as their baby mills which Europe is paying for with its wellfare states, completes its job of making the numbers a voting majority; THE END
United States of ChristianAmericanPatriots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching those two gays hanged in the islamic republic of Iran, was the perfect example of the islam a religion of peace. All who wish to, or sit sleepily by while all of Europe is placed under sharia can just sit on their coward asses and wait for the religious police to come get yo punk ass. Give Me Liberty or Me Death; literally what it&#8217;s going to take and until Europe wakes up and rolls up its sleeves and starts knocking down the doors of mosques and madrassas and start throwing these ignorant hate filled, death loving idiots out of their countries, sharia is what Europe will have, as soon as their baby mills which Europe is paying for with its wellfare states, completes its job of making the numbers a voting majority; THE END<br />
United States of ChristianAmericanPatriots</p>
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		<title>By: Spain Prefers Islam over Roman Catholicism - Burbuja Econ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spain Prefers Islam over Roman Catholicism - Burbuja Econ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] de civilizaciones a tope, como pillen al Zerolo   Pajamas Media </description>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
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		<dc:creator>slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is wrong with europe why cant a continent that had the roman army, the vikings and the Wehrmacht figure out what to do with a couple of dangerous muslums.  just throw them out, round them up, put them on planes and deport them or banish them if they were born there.  screw thier soverign rights its time to get tough or die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is wrong with europe why cant a continent that had the roman army, the vikings and the Wehrmacht figure out what to do with a couple of dangerous muslums.  just throw them out, round them up, put them on planes and deport them or banish them if they were born there.  screw thier soverign rights its time to get tough or die.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with everyone on this post who blames the current problems in europe on socialism. The elements of leftist ideology which teach that poverty is the cause of extreamism and violence are the culprits.

Alot of ideas that stike many Americans as &quot;socialist&quot; have been succesful in many countries regardless of other circumstances. Europe would not be in any better shape in terms of immigration than it is now if it lacked every element of socialism except welfare checks. And of course that wouldn&#039;t even be an issue if it weren&#039;t for immigration. Welfare is extensive in South korea and Japan and hasn&#039;t destroyed those nations ability to compete economically. This is simply because the populus of these nations have a lifestyle that doesn&#039;t put much strain on their system and because they don&#039;t have many children. Fascist ideologies in these nations aren&#039;t growing in leaps and bounds as a result of people losing their minds because they don&#039;t have to work. And inspite of the immigration issue in many of these semi socialist countries their per capita economic productivity and currency value is high. As are the products they produce.

If immigration is handled in a restrictive and values minded manner, and the society and government encourages society to value enlightened beliefs and habits (rather than multiculturalism) and civic virtue through education and organized defense of their society then things seem to work out. 

In regards to demograpics. Medical technology will peopably render aging irrelivant in a relitivly short amount of time and nations that took in tones of immigrants fearing that they weren&#039;t going to be able to replace themselfs will look rather foolish. Even the child bearing rate of Japan will look like it could result in overpopulation rather than depopulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with everyone on this post who blames the current problems in europe on socialism. The elements of leftist ideology which teach that poverty is the cause of extreamism and violence are the culprits.</p>
<p>Alot of ideas that stike many Americans as &#8220;socialist&#8221; have been succesful in many countries regardless of other circumstances. Europe would not be in any better shape in terms of immigration than it is now if it lacked every element of socialism except welfare checks. And of course that wouldn&#8217;t even be an issue if it weren&#8217;t for immigration. Welfare is extensive in South korea and Japan and hasn&#8217;t destroyed those nations ability to compete economically. This is simply because the populus of these nations have a lifestyle that doesn&#8217;t put much strain on their system and because they don&#8217;t have many children. Fascist ideologies in these nations aren&#8217;t growing in leaps and bounds as a result of people losing their minds because they don&#8217;t have to work. And inspite of the immigration issue in many of these semi socialist countries their per capita economic productivity and currency value is high. As are the products they produce.</p>
<p>If immigration is handled in a restrictive and values minded manner, and the society and government encourages society to value enlightened beliefs and habits (rather than multiculturalism) and civic virtue through education and organized defense of their society then things seem to work out. </p>
<p>In regards to demograpics. Medical technology will peopably render aging irrelivant in a relitivly short amount of time and nations that took in tones of immigrants fearing that they weren&#8217;t going to be able to replace themselfs will look rather foolish. Even the child bearing rate of Japan will look like it could result in overpopulation rather than depopulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pch1013,

You asked why Bruce Bawer doesn&#039;t simply leave Norway and return to his native USA.  The answer is obvious:  his Norwegian boyfriend cannot get a green card through their relationship.  Bawer, however, can get a work permit in Norway through his boyfriend--for now.  It doesn&#039;t take a genius to realize that, once Muslim voters in Norway reach critical mass, they will insist on ending gay immigration rights.  Those who aren&#039;t sure whether gays should be put to death probably won&#039;t be happy giving foreign homosexuals work permits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pch1013,</p>
<p>You asked why Bruce Bawer doesn&#8217;t simply leave Norway and return to his native USA.  The answer is obvious:  his Norwegian boyfriend cannot get a green card through their relationship.  Bawer, however, can get a work permit in Norway through his boyfriend&#8211;for now.  It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to realize that, once Muslim voters in Norway reach critical mass, they will insist on ending gay immigration rights.  Those who aren&#8217;t sure whether gays should be put to death probably won&#8217;t be happy giving foreign homosexuals work permits.</p>
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		<title>By: El consejo Islamico Europeo a debate: ¿debe ejecutarse a los gays o no?</title>
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		<dc:creator>El consejo Islamico Europeo a debate: ¿debe ejecutarse a los gays o no?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elias Fjellstad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elias Fjellstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might not agree with the Islamic council, I might be a LGBT activist, but this article is one of the most twisted &#039;&#039;yellow faced&#039;&#039; articles I have read in ages.
first, it must be remembered that Kobilica is acting as a politicien, and this is how political announcments goes, at least he on the contrary to many american politiciens, have not said a direct lie.
and last time I checked the Vetican didn&#039;t really say that gay people shouldn&#039;t be killed either, they said something like &#039;&#039; human right laws must be applied and concidered&#039;&#039;, but never anything about the churce excepting gay people
if you are going to attack someone for not being 100% forward, direct and clear, and for having subtle meaning, then perhaps you should do the same &#039;&#039;crime&#039;&#039; yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might not agree with the Islamic council, I might be a LGBT activist, but this article is one of the most twisted &#8221;yellow faced&#8221; articles I have read in ages.<br />
first, it must be remembered that Kobilica is acting as a politicien, and this is how political announcments goes, at least he on the contrary to many american politiciens, have not said a direct lie.<br />
and last time I checked the Vetican didn&#8217;t really say that gay people shouldn&#8217;t be killed either, they said something like &#8221; human right laws must be applied and concidered&#8221;, but never anything about the churce excepting gay people<br />
if you are going to attack someone for not being 100% forward, direct and clear, and for having subtle meaning, then perhaps you should do the same &#8221;crime&#8221; yourself.</p>
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