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	<title>Comments on: Europe&#8217;s Estrangement from Israel</title>
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		<title>By: British Guy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/europs-estrangement-from-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-218922</link>
		<dc:creator>British Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an educated, liberal, atheist british citizan; I do not hate jews, nor do I hate Israel, indeed I support it and its claims over and above that of Palestine. Palestinian rulers and, to a large extent, its public, have repeatedly proved that they are untrust worthy, vicious and aggressive. Anti semitism is a brutal and ugly ideology, but so is Islamophobia; while the religion appears to be quite ugly, so do most other religions if you pay close enough attention to the details; see Corinthians 11, 3; while jewish religios law itself calls for the stoning of homosexuals (sorry, no quote). 

My point is that it is not about Religion per se, but the interpretation thereof. It would be a mistake to tar all muslims with the brush of the radicals, just as it would be deeply unfair to claim that since some christians behave ignobily and justify it using the bible, then all christians are &#039;evil&#039;.

This is a complex, dangerous situation, and regardless of your personal stance on the issue, it merits subtelty and understanding not blanket statements and biased opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an educated, liberal, atheist british citizan; I do not hate jews, nor do I hate Israel, indeed I support it and its claims over and above that of Palestine. Palestinian rulers and, to a large extent, its public, have repeatedly proved that they are untrust worthy, vicious and aggressive. Anti semitism is a brutal and ugly ideology, but so is Islamophobia; while the religion appears to be quite ugly, so do most other religions if you pay close enough attention to the details; see Corinthians 11, 3; while jewish religios law itself calls for the stoning of homosexuals (sorry, no quote). </p>
<p>My point is that it is not about Religion per se, but the interpretation thereof. It would be a mistake to tar all muslims with the brush of the radicals, just as it would be deeply unfair to claim that since some christians behave ignobily and justify it using the bible, then all christians are &#8216;evil&#8217;.</p>
<p>This is a complex, dangerous situation, and regardless of your personal stance on the issue, it merits subtelty and understanding not blanket statements and biased opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: non</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/europs-estrangement-from-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-205460</link>
		<dc:creator>non</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s useless to keep saying that the Arabs weren’t there at the time, there is ample evidence to the contrary.&quot;

Most of the Arabs came to the area that is now israel only once the jews had arrived and begun developing the economy.  Under the brits, who had not yet made up their minds whether to act on the balfour declaration, jewish immigration was curtailed while arabs/muslims streamed in to take advantage of the developing economy (developed by the jews).  that&#039;s how most palestinians came to the area. They also did not leave thru force population transfer as was claimed.  We have the documentation today from the british mandate and we know they left because the surrounding arab countries told them to while the jews told them to stay.   The palestinian problem is a self-created one and created by arabs, not jews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s useless to keep saying that the Arabs weren’t there at the time, there is ample evidence to the contrary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most of the Arabs came to the area that is now israel only once the jews had arrived and begun developing the economy.  Under the brits, who had not yet made up their minds whether to act on the balfour declaration, jewish immigration was curtailed while arabs/muslims streamed in to take advantage of the developing economy (developed by the jews).  that&#8217;s how most palestinians came to the area. They also did not leave thru force population transfer as was claimed.  We have the documentation today from the british mandate and we know they left because the surrounding arab countries told them to while the jews told them to stay.   The palestinian problem is a self-created one and created by arabs, not jews</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/europs-estrangement-from-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-191232</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Brit who is anglo-saxon in terms of race and who probably doesn&#039;t have a Jewish bone in his body, and who is a Christian in terms of religion, I&#039;d like to apologise for the comments of my fellow countrymen (and countrywomen).

I&#039;d just like people to know that all of us are anti semitic.  Am Yisrael chai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Brit who is anglo-saxon in terms of race and who probably doesn&#8217;t have a Jewish bone in his body, and who is a Christian in terms of religion, I&#8217;d like to apologise for the comments of my fellow countrymen (and countrywomen).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like people to know that all of us are anti semitic.  Am Yisrael chai.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an oppressed group the UN cares nothing about: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0109/christian_gaza.php3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an oppressed group the UN cares nothing about: <a href="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0109/christian_gaza.php3" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0109/christian_gaza.php3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/europs-estrangement-from-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-189691</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Jews gave Mohammad a hard time and Mohammad distroyed 3 jewish tribes.  In one incident Mohammad exicuted 600 Jewish males in one day.  Jew-hated is enshrined in the Quarn and Hadith.  

Thays way Pakistaines who never lived with jews before hate them.  Hating Jews is part of the foundation of the religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jews gave Mohammad a hard time and Mohammad distroyed 3 jewish tribes.  In one incident Mohammad exicuted 600 Jewish males in one day.  Jew-hated is enshrined in the Quarn and Hadith.  </p>
<p>Thays way Pakistaines who never lived with jews before hate them.  Hating Jews is part of the foundation of the religion.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, a better link; http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2009/01/13/the-un-bailout-of-hamas/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, a better link; <a href="http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2009/01/13/the-un-bailout-of-hamas/" rel="nofollow">http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2009/01/13/the-un-bailout-of-hamas/</a></p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and, of course, as an organization, the UN is corrupt: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/01/20/2009-01-20_human_rights_worker_with_united_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and, of course, as an organization, the UN is corrupt: <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/01/20/2009-01-20_human_rights_worker_with_united_" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/01/20/2009-01-20_human_rights_worker_with_united_</a></p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because, Greg, whereas individual Israelis might be corrupt, they&#039;re not an organization, like the UN, that pretends to be working for peace, and lays down dictates for the world at large, as to how it should behave.  

Are you saying that because some Israeli politicians are crooks that means we must unquestioningly believe the UN---despite its ties to Hamas---because, well, they&#039;re crooked too?  That doesn&#039;t make any sense, sorry, it just doesn&#039;t.  

Fact is, UN is not a disinterested party here.  They support Hamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because, Greg, whereas individual Israelis might be corrupt, they&#8217;re not an organization, like the UN, that pretends to be working for peace, and lays down dictates for the world at large, as to how it should behave.  </p>
<p>Are you saying that because some Israeli politicians are crooks that means we must unquestioningly believe the UN&#8212;despite its ties to Hamas&#8212;because, well, they&#8217;re crooked too?  That doesn&#8217;t make any sense, sorry, it just doesn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Fact is, UN is not a disinterested party here.  They support Hamas.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And more on Hamas and the UN (posted this on another thread, but it elongs on this one:)http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2009/01/13/the-un-bailout-of-hamas/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And more on Hamas and the UN (posted this on another thread, but it elongs on this one:)http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2009/01/13/the-un-bailout-of-hamas/</p>
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		<title>By: Jonesy55</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonesy55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hard to have a rocking economy when you have to pour your best into a military that allows you to survive amongst the degenerate barbarians that surround you. Still, I would be willing to bet the Isrealis have been awarded more Nobel Prizes than the entire Moslem world. Want to make that bet?&quot;

What does that have to do with anything? the claim was that Israel had left Europe lagging far behind, the muslim world wasn&#039;t even mentioned. I&#039;m sure that Israel does have more nobel prizes, the muslim world isn&#039;t exactly known for innovation and progressive ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hard to have a rocking economy when you have to pour your best into a military that allows you to survive amongst the degenerate barbarians that surround you. Still, I would be willing to bet the Isrealis have been awarded more Nobel Prizes than the entire Moslem world. Want to make that bet?&#8221;</p>
<p>What does that have to do with anything? the claim was that Israel had left Europe lagging far behind, the muslim world wasn&#8217;t even mentioned. I&#8217;m sure that Israel does have more nobel prizes, the muslim world isn&#8217;t exactly known for innovation and progressive ideas.</p>
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