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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys eat up everything Lerant (typo intended) says as fact.  The guy is supposedly a lawyer, yet he doesn&#039;t even know (or maybe purposely leaves it out of his rants) that the CHRC and the CHRT are two TOTALLY separate bodies, with separate legislated mandates (any dummy can figure that out by reading the Canadian Human Rights Act).  

Furthermore, contrary to Lerant&#039;s &quot;musings&quot; the CHRC has not and cannot &quot;rule&quot; that something is hate--they can only refer things to the CHRT for further inquiry.  The CHRT makes the decision.  Again, this is something established in the CHRA--something any good lawyer would know.  

Also, you cannot be &quot;charged&quot; under the Canadian Human Rights Act, nor does the CHRT &quot;convict&quot; or &quot;prosecute&quot;--these are criminal court terms, which as a lawyer, Lerant should know.  A complaint is filed and a decision rendered--period.  The participants are &quot;complainants&quot; and &quot;respondents&quot; not the &quot;victim&quot; and the &quot;accused&quot;. 

All of you that praise Levant and call him a genius, consider this:  Levant is a lawyer--an expert at law.  Levant claims that all HRC staff are nothing more than second-rate bureaucrats.  Yet at the same time he pays thousands in lawyer&#039;s fees (which apparently he funds from the dummies that eat up his one-sided, first-year lawschool-journalistic-activism) to fight the HRC&#039;s.  Now, wouldn&#039;t a lawyer of his calibre be able to defend himself?  After all, there are federal inmates with less than a grade 10 education that manouver their way through the CHRC process--WITHOUT COUNSEL!!  Similarly, many ferderal government departments have staff who are not lawyers defend them when CHRC complaints are filed against them.

Granted, if a case goes to the CHRT, which is a formal administrative tribunal with all sorts of legal rules and procedures, a lawyer is required.  Speaking of which, complainants in HRC cases pay their own lawyer&#039;s fees--they are not paid by the government.  Yes, the CHRC may intervene in a Tribunal hearing, but the complainant has their own counsel and is responsible for the bill--unless of course, the Tribunal awards costs to the complainant (then the respondent pays). 

While all of this may seem trivial, it shows how Levant will manipulate facts and language to hit his readers at a base, emotional level (suckers).

So, do you want section 13 (1) taken out of the Canadian Human Rights Act?  
Instead of listening to Lerant go on about the crooked CHRC (which has yet to be proven as both the RCMP and Privacy investigations are ongoing), we all need write our MPs and demand that it be repealed.  This will be far more effective than sitting at your computer eating up Lerant&#039;s highschool-like character assassinations of average Joe public servants (character assassinations that are created by skewing facts and taking quotes out of context).

AND if you have made it this far in my rant, you may want to ask yourself if Lerant REALLY does want the hate provisions gone from our HR legislation.  After all, it is his &#039;fight&#039; against them that makes him a hot commodity online, in the papers and on TV.  Without hate provisions, Lerant is just another right-wing windbag with not too much to say.

Lerant says he&#039;s disgusted by, and has contempt for, the entire &quot;human rights industry&quot;.  Yet at the same time, it is the HR industry that butters his bread.

Think, research and form your own rational opinion.  Don&#039;t be duped by a second rate lawyer who is more interested in skewing facts and cashing in on it, than he is in furthering the cause free speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys eat up everything Lerant (typo intended) says as fact.  The guy is supposedly a lawyer, yet he doesn&#8217;t even know (or maybe purposely leaves it out of his rants) that the CHRC and the CHRT are two TOTALLY separate bodies, with separate legislated mandates (any dummy can figure that out by reading the Canadian Human Rights Act).  </p>
<p>Furthermore, contrary to Lerant&#8217;s &#8220;musings&#8221; the CHRC has not and cannot &#8220;rule&#8221; that something is hate&#8211;they can only refer things to the CHRT for further inquiry.  The CHRT makes the decision.  Again, this is something established in the CHRA&#8211;something any good lawyer would know.  </p>
<p>Also, you cannot be &#8220;charged&#8221; under the Canadian Human Rights Act, nor does the CHRT &#8220;convict&#8221; or &#8220;prosecute&#8221;&#8211;these are criminal court terms, which as a lawyer, Lerant should know.  A complaint is filed and a decision rendered&#8211;period.  The participants are &#8220;complainants&#8221; and &#8220;respondents&#8221; not the &#8220;victim&#8221; and the &#8220;accused&#8221;. </p>
<p>All of you that praise Levant and call him a genius, consider this:  Levant is a lawyer&#8211;an expert at law.  Levant claims that all HRC staff are nothing more than second-rate bureaucrats.  Yet at the same time he pays thousands in lawyer&#8217;s fees (which apparently he funds from the dummies that eat up his one-sided, first-year lawschool-journalistic-activism) to fight the HRC&#8217;s.  Now, wouldn&#8217;t a lawyer of his calibre be able to defend himself?  After all, there are federal inmates with less than a grade 10 education that manouver their way through the CHRC process&#8211;WITHOUT COUNSEL!!  Similarly, many ferderal government departments have staff who are not lawyers defend them when CHRC complaints are filed against them.</p>
<p>Granted, if a case goes to the CHRT, which is a formal administrative tribunal with all sorts of legal rules and procedures, a lawyer is required.  Speaking of which, complainants in HRC cases pay their own lawyer&#8217;s fees&#8211;they are not paid by the government.  Yes, the CHRC may intervene in a Tribunal hearing, but the complainant has their own counsel and is responsible for the bill&#8211;unless of course, the Tribunal awards costs to the complainant (then the respondent pays). </p>
<p>While all of this may seem trivial, it shows how Levant will manipulate facts and language to hit his readers at a base, emotional level (suckers).</p>
<p>So, do you want section 13 (1) taken out of the Canadian Human Rights Act?<br />
Instead of listening to Lerant go on about the crooked CHRC (which has yet to be proven as both the RCMP and Privacy investigations are ongoing), we all need write our MPs and demand that it be repealed.  This will be far more effective than sitting at your computer eating up Lerant&#8217;s highschool-like character assassinations of average Joe public servants (character assassinations that are created by skewing facts and taking quotes out of context).</p>
<p>AND if you have made it this far in my rant, you may want to ask yourself if Lerant REALLY does want the hate provisions gone from our HR legislation.  After all, it is his &#8216;fight&#8217; against them that makes him a hot commodity online, in the papers and on TV.  Without hate provisions, Lerant is just another right-wing windbag with not too much to say.</p>
<p>Lerant says he&#8217;s disgusted by, and has contempt for, the entire &#8220;human rights industry&#8221;.  Yet at the same time, it is the HR industry that butters his bread.</p>
<p>Think, research and form your own rational opinion.  Don&#8217;t be duped by a second rate lawyer who is more interested in skewing facts and cashing in on it, than he is in furthering the cause free speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ezra-levant-1-canadian-thought-police-0/comment-page-1/#comment-109967</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every Canadian should be aware of what has happended at Canada Post.Like mother public institutions Politicans,so called heads of crown corporations and labour unions have signed collective agreements that effectively have caused a role reversal between the agressor &amp; the victim. This doctrine of the &quot;11 prohibited grounds&quot; means Canada Post has as many as 40% modified employees,32,000+ grievances, and many false human rights complaints. The Canada Post workplace is a disgrace and Canadians need to worry. Bad employees are protected from accountability as tghe truth was bargained away  in exchange for labour peace.   CUPW is on a membership drive maybe we all should sign membership cards and buy our human rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every Canadian should be aware of what has happended at Canada Post.Like mother public institutions Politicans,so called heads of crown corporations and labour unions have signed collective agreements that effectively have caused a role reversal between the agressor &amp; the victim. This doctrine of the &#8220;11 prohibited grounds&#8221; means Canada Post has as many as 40% modified employees,32,000+ grievances, and many false human rights complaints. The Canada Post workplace is a disgrace and Canadians need to worry. Bad employees are protected from accountability as tghe truth was bargained away  in exchange for labour peace.   CUPW is on a membership drive maybe we all should sign membership cards and buy our human rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ezra-levant-1-canadian-thought-police-0/comment-page-1/#comment-91060</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo!You tell them.This is Canada not Saudi arabia!We ridicule our leaders all the time.These Muslims better get used to learning and living with OUR values.Otherwise heres a plane ticket back to Saudi for you so you can live under religious law.
We had 10 years  of liberal rule.Our military was gutted.Lots of pet projects the libs had.And to boot they tried stirring up anti-US sentiment which really didnt work at all and backfired.
Now Prime minister Harper has pledged to rebuild our military to deal with unexpected world threats as he should and ill support Harper for that in the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo!You tell them.This is Canada not Saudi arabia!We ridicule our leaders all the time.These Muslims better get used to learning and living with OUR values.Otherwise heres a plane ticket back to Saudi for you so you can live under religious law.<br />
We had 10 years  of liberal rule.Our military was gutted.Lots of pet projects the libs had.And to boot they tried stirring up anti-US sentiment which really didnt work at all and backfired.<br />
Now Prime minister Harper has pledged to rebuild our military to deal with unexpected world threats as he should and ill support Harper for that in the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: Eowyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eowyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOTHING is more important than free speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOTHING is more important than free speech.</p>
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		<title>By: cejac</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ezra-levant-1-canadian-thought-police-0/comment-page-1/#comment-89751</link>
		<dc:creator>cejac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go Ezra. We need a thouisand of Ezra&#039;s levant. There has to be room to be able to say I do not like your religion, and that is OK and it doesn&#039;t make me your enemy. Youmake us your enemy. You are the one with the proble. We have the right to sya we do not like their way of thinking, living and lifestyly. Let say NO to Islamic imposition to our ways of living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go Ezra. We need a thouisand of Ezra&#8217;s levant. There has to be room to be able to say I do not like your religion, and that is OK and it doesn&#8217;t make me your enemy. Youmake us your enemy. You are the one with the proble. We have the right to sya we do not like their way of thinking, living and lifestyly. Let say NO to Islamic imposition to our ways of living.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Mudflap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Mudflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time and much effort is required to focus enough peoples attention on the dire issue of rights commission statutes like the federal Section 13.1 and Alberta HRC Section 7 which have been used in this new way to stifle free speech. Initially this issue was painted as feeble unwarranted complaints by  so-called &quot;neocons  white power freaks and christian extremist bible thumpers. Steyn, Levant, Macleans, Shaidle, SDA were branded in this fashion and were wrongly framed as being party to such white power folks. BUT, finally The Nat&#039;l Post clued in, Toronto&#039;s gay Eye Weekly clued in, PEN Canada weighed in, then the Globe n Mail, then also the left&#039;s favourite supporter the Toronto Star weighed in MP&#039;s, MLA&#039;s, many traditional rights organization, ETC ETC. It crossed all political lines, for the right reasons. Warring K is on the wrong side of this debate....all because he feels some of the players are too offensive. Sorta funny coming from a over the hill punk musician. The beat will go on however, if we all remain informed and active on these HRC issues. These issues really challenge us but we must learn to know why the preservation of speech is so very vital...even if offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time and much effort is required to focus enough peoples attention on the dire issue of rights commission statutes like the federal Section 13.1 and Alberta HRC Section 7 which have been used in this new way to stifle free speech. Initially this issue was painted as feeble unwarranted complaints by  so-called &#8220;neocons  white power freaks and christian extremist bible thumpers. Steyn, Levant, Macleans, Shaidle, SDA were branded in this fashion and were wrongly framed as being party to such white power folks. BUT, finally The Nat&#8217;l Post clued in, Toronto&#8217;s gay Eye Weekly clued in, PEN Canada weighed in, then the Globe n Mail, then also the left&#8217;s favourite supporter the Toronto Star weighed in MP&#8217;s, MLA&#8217;s, many traditional rights organization, ETC ETC. It crossed all political lines, for the right reasons. Warring K is on the wrong side of this debate&#8230;.all because he feels some of the players are too offensive. Sorta funny coming from a over the hill punk musician. The beat will go on however, if we all remain informed and active on these HRC issues. These issues really challenge us but we must learn to know why the preservation of speech is so very vital&#8230;even if offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: John R. Lancellotti</title>
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		<dc:creator>John R. Lancellotti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy is obviously wonderful.  Bravo. I applaud you Ezra Levant.  Even down here in America, we recognize courage, idealism and a sense of justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy is obviously wonderful.  Bravo. I applaud you Ezra Levant.  Even down here in America, we recognize courage, idealism and a sense of justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Argento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When Soharwardy dropped his complaint, Levant, a practicing defamation lawyer, had publicly mused about suing the imam in civil court to recoup his legal costs. (HRC complainants have their legal fees paid by the state.)

But now Levant tells Pajamas Media, “My lawyers say there is no redress allowed in terms of suing my HRC antagonists — the statute forbids it. I may have that option in some of the 17 other legal assaults I’m facing.”&lt;/i&gt;

Then Levant and other Canadians should file a bunch of lawsuits against those imams and Islamic groups. Heck, file more against the self-appointed thought police like that lesbian heckler. It costs nothing, right? All you&#039;ve got to do is just complain. Just for fun, make complains about the involved bureaucrats, too. This can have the following effects:

1. Expose the absurdity of the system.
Let all Canadians aware of the threat to freedom of speech and freedom of thought and of how the taxpayers&#039; money fund the supression of FoS and FoT. If enough citizens getting angry, then there may be hope against the thought police.

2. Bury the system under avalanche of complaints.
When the number of complaints gets very high, they can consume HRCs&#039; resources and make them grind to a halt. When they can no longer respond to legit human rights abuse complaints, the HRCs will be under a spotlight. The effect can be two things, they must:
a. prioritize the cases, which means they must do the right thing: focus on real issues
b. increase the resources which means consuming more taxpayers&#039; money and increase Canadians&#039; displeasure at the thought police.

Sometimes, things must get worse before getting better. If you wait for the other side to make it worse, you aren&#039;t going to win the battle. Take the initiative and control the outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When Soharwardy dropped his complaint, Levant, a practicing defamation lawyer, had publicly mused about suing the imam in civil court to recoup his legal costs. (HRC complainants have their legal fees paid by the state.)</p>
<p>But now Levant tells Pajamas Media, “My lawyers say there is no redress allowed in terms of suing my HRC antagonists — the statute forbids it. I may have that option in some of the 17 other legal assaults I’m facing.”</i></p>
<p>Then Levant and other Canadians should file a bunch of lawsuits against those imams and Islamic groups. Heck, file more against the self-appointed thought police like that lesbian heckler. It costs nothing, right? All you&#8217;ve got to do is just complain. Just for fun, make complains about the involved bureaucrats, too. This can have the following effects:</p>
<p>1. Expose the absurdity of the system.<br />
Let all Canadians aware of the threat to freedom of speech and freedom of thought and of how the taxpayers&#8217; money fund the supression of FoS and FoT. If enough citizens getting angry, then there may be hope against the thought police.</p>
<p>2. Bury the system under avalanche of complaints.<br />
When the number of complaints gets very high, they can consume HRCs&#8217; resources and make them grind to a halt. When they can no longer respond to legit human rights abuse complaints, the HRCs will be under a spotlight. The effect can be two things, they must:<br />
a. prioritize the cases, which means they must do the right thing: focus on real issues<br />
b. increase the resources which means consuming more taxpayers&#8217; money and increase Canadians&#8217; displeasure at the thought police.</p>
<p>Sometimes, things must get worse before getting better. If you wait for the other side to make it worse, you aren&#8217;t going to win the battle. Take the initiative and control the outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezra Levant &#187; Winds Of Jihad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ezra Levant &#187; Winds Of Jihad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The case against Levant has been dropped, but Levant is still angry. Find out why. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The case against Levant has been dropped, but Levant is still angry. Find out why. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Mudflap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Mudflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaffir
&quot;...expaciate&quot; Try spellcheck snob. And then get boned up on the issue before &quot;expanding at length on your thinking&quot;.  The danger is that now that the rights commission has &quot;done the right thing&quot; and SHIRKED OFF INTO THE CORNER, They get/hope to still co-exist with the judicial system and adjudicate matters like ethnic hurt feelings, provocative debate and passionate offensiveness, you know ruin life as we know it. Little thing called free speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaffir<br />
&#8220;&#8230;expaciate&#8221; Try spellcheck snob. And then get boned up on the issue before &#8220;expanding at length on your thinking&#8221;.  The danger is that now that the rights commission has &#8220;done the right thing&#8221; and SHIRKED OFF INTO THE CORNER, They get/hope to still co-exist with the judicial system and adjudicate matters like ethnic hurt feelings, provocative debate and passionate offensiveness, you know ruin life as we know it. Little thing called free speech.</p>
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