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1. bill-tb:

I wouldn’t say Obama is successful at anything other than jive talking. All the unemployed votes are yet to be counted. The tally is not expected to be comp-lete until year’s end. Then we will see. At 0.5% a month that is about 12-13% by year’s end.

Jun 8, 2009 - 1:23 pm 2. Mary Jackson:

Melanie Phillips has an excellent analysis of the BNP gains here.

Jun 8, 2009 - 1:25 pm 3. whataloadacrap08:

I wouldn’t read too much into the British neo-NAZI gains, after all Britain is world infamous for its football thuggery. Looks like the riff raff finally found a ticket they can feel good about. Yobs-R-Us?

Jun 8, 2009 - 1:32 pm 4. Avitar:

Has someone been putting drugs in a product that ships internationally? First the US has the 2006 election deliver control to the Democrats and then when after a year in power the country turns south people vote them increased unconditional control and a Democrat President. Now Gordon Brown can not get the Labor Party to a safe harbor while in their own port. They lost Whales?!!
I remind everyone that the Germans did not elect Hitler because they loved his racism but because he was the only one standing up and saying “This must stop!” about the economic conditions.

Jun 8, 2009 - 2:08 pm 5. for every action there is a reaction:

Wait you think the rise of the BNP occurs in a vacuum? What about the Muslim immigration problem? You fail to mention that a portion of the British electorate has had enough with the grievance mongering of Muslims and creeping Sharia in the UK. The established parties have done nothing to address those concerns. When the identity politics of a religious minority take precedence over the legitimate concerns of the majority why do you think they will not respond in kind? Live by identity politics die by identity politics.

Jun 8, 2009 - 2:29 pm 6. "progressive"watch:

I don’t know what the BNP believes in,but the term racist is used wrong many times to its being used accurately once. Race-baiting,racist name-calling and the race card are a constant cacophony that any seacher for the real truth has to deal with. I am not in the least alarmed by the BNP’s gains. Most the people voting for it are almost certainly not racists but are Britians frightened of Muslim racist fanatics and by multicultural wackos.

Jun 8, 2009 - 2:51 pm 7. bill:

It’s almost as if this were posted on a leftist propaganda site. The BNP are hardly neo-Nazi, although they have members who proudly proclaim themselves as such. So what? There were people who voted for Obama who were die-hard socialist/communist, committed abortionists, and or black-supremacists. I don’t tar the vast majority of his supporters with the same brush. Most of the BNP are people who are tired of watching all that is great, noble, and virtuous about British culture being flushed down the crapper while told to be open-minded about the excesses of Islamic non-integration. This defeat of Labor is the inevitable result of good people being told to apologize on a daily basis with their words and money.

Jun 8, 2009 - 3:00 pm 8. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Well for one thing bill. I don’t a leftist propaganda site would be pleased with my calling the BNP far-left (which of course they are according to their policies). The BNP are indeed national socialists are are keen to call themselves such. Hence the “your father’s Labour Party tag line they use.

Jun 8, 2009 - 3:27 pm 9. David M. in Europe:

Nazism is bad and evil but don’t let far-left Socialists, Communists, the Greens and Islamists (whose words and actions are like Nazis) off the hook. During the conflict between Israel and Hamas the top echelon of the Social Democratic party, the Left party (Communists) and the Greens demonstrated together with Hizbollah and Hamas supporters in Sweden and the same happened in other European countries.

Jun 8, 2009 - 3:31 pm 10. David Thomson:

“both racist and heavily socialist.”

That is actually the norm for the vast majority of racist groups. As matter of fact, I can’t think of even one exception! Anti-capitalism and racism normally go hand in hand. The American KKK may not have been completely socialist, but its members normally embraced share-the-wealth-type of programs. They almost always voted on behalf of Democratic Party candidates when their own members were not running for office. And why should this be surprising? Most racists wish to lose their own identity and instead emphasize their group membership. One should occasionally visit an overtly racist website. You will quickly notice the sense of community and fellowship. A sense that “we are all in this together.”

Jun 8, 2009 - 3:48 pm 11. Brian:

I certainly hope Brits will be wise to the BNP.I mean seriously a national socialist party?Your not going to fall for that again are you Europe?

Jun 8, 2009 - 4:03 pm 12. ehunter:

NEO-NAZI eh? Thats what Multiculturalism does to a nation. When the common sense assumptions that ruled Britain for centuries are now seen as extremist..ie Britain is a white, Christian nation
with a distinct heritage, whenrace and culture are something to be diluted, surrendered and apologized for etc….then we see just how pervasive and complete is the brainwashing of the liberal left. LONG LIVE THE BNP..MAY tHE USA HAVE ITS OWN..WHITE, NATIONAL PARTY and soon!.

Jun 8, 2009 - 4:12 pm 13. ehunter:

Notice the first sentence of this piece or trash article..

“the successful socialist administration of the U.S”

what.. what in Gods name gives the punk writing this pablum the audacity to say that after 5 months
of ever increasing disgust with the Obama fiasco…its a “succss” What a moron this clown is.

Jun 8, 2009 - 4:15 pm 14. Morton Doodslag:

Despite all the good faith efforts made by whites (for my entire lifetme at peat) to address the myriad grievances of all manner of “minority”, it seems that thing have never been worse in the West for those same minorities. At least, that’s what we’re led to believe by those griwvance groups with their shrill and endless outbursts of “racism!”, “racist!”, “fascist”, and “Nazi”.

Today, despite still being the majority in the societies they developed, whites are marginalized and serially abused by these shrill (usually race based, but not always) grievance groups. The BNP indeed may have “neo-Nazi” proclivities, but surely their rising popularity is largely due to the hideous abuse whites have experienced for decades in their homelands?

Elsewhere at this site today we can see a vivid illustration of this dynamic at work. A writer, Mr. Rubens Navarette, exhibits a stunning arrogance and racist bullying, asserting that the Mexican conquest of America is not only inevitable, but that anyone who objects could only do so out of “racist” xenophobia.

So while Navarette (a Mexican illegal alien apologist) can threaten the soverignty of America, chortle about scoffing at our laws, and express a giddy joy at the eventual demographic conquest by his racial group, anyone who strenuously objects is slandered as the racist. He is a traitor. He is a Mexican bigot. He advocates the widespread breaking of American laws. He celebrates the racist domination of whites by his own “rasa” (race), but we must remain mum. Navarette’s vile bigotry and arrogance, and his flagrant contempt for my culture, my race, and my nation elicits in me a profound anger – and I’m sure I’m not alone.

Jun 8, 2009 - 4:22 pm 15. Morton Doodslag:

P.S. Apologies for typos in my post — I’m using a tiny iPod today…

Jun 8, 2009 - 4:26 pm 16. Blackwater:

I know some people who support the BNP. They aren’t Nazis. They don’t hate Jews. They hate excessive low skilled immigration from the third world which is totally destroying large sections of their country and turning native British people into 2nd class citizens in their own country. They don’t have a problem with highly skilled immigrants regardless of skin color. They just think that native Britains whose ancestors have lived there for thousands of years should have their livelyhoods and concerns placed above those of foreigners. Nothing too unreasonable. They don’t advocate violence. Just immigration reform. It’s only due to extreme political correctness that looking out for the best interests of native citizens is considered “Neo-Nazism”. They aren’t skinheads for God sakes.

Jun 8, 2009 - 4:40 pm 17. ehunter:

Every racial group in the world has come to the USA with its own racial agenda..no apologies given. Whites are suppose to surrender their land, heritage and culture and if they balk its “Racism”! Its got to the point where a former Executive Director of La Raza can become a White House advisor and no one dares say a thing. Imagine for a second someone appointed to work in the White House for a white President who in a former life headed a group called The White Race. Imagine if you will the howlings of the nomenklatura of the Left.

Jun 8, 2009 - 4:46 pm 18. Penny:

I think much of the BNP vote was an angry protest vote. Nowhere on British news sites do I read hardly anyone not understanding the BNP for what it is leftist and racist in the comments.

Geert Wilders did well too in a country noted for its pathetic dhimmi capitulation over the years.

Europeans don’t and haven’t had decent election choices. The same could be said here. But, at least, something is stirring to take back their culture from the socialist rot there. Bless them. Our national nightmare has only begun.

Jun 8, 2009 - 5:19 pm 19. bill:

Sorry, just getting back. Andrew, what on earth does your response have with anything I said????

Jun 8, 2009 - 5:33 pm 20. Evil Pundit:

Anyone who doesn’t toe the politically correct line gets tarred with the “Nazi” brush.

George Bush was called a Nazi by his enemies. So were John Howard and Margaret Thatcher.

I’m afraid the word doesn’t have much meaning any more.

Jun 8, 2009 - 5:55 pm 21. Alex Hall:

Uh, news flash.
The BNP is NOT neo-nazi.

You sound like a Labour party voter angry that you lost the election due to your party’s mismanagement and idiotic policies.

BNP before nu-Labour anyday.

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:17 pm 22. coisty:

The most extreme political party in Britain is New Labour, not the BNP.

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:35 pm 23. Buffoon:

Exactly what Blackwater said,

“I know some people who support the BNP. They aren’t Nazis. They don’t hate Jews. They hate excessive low skilled immigration from the third world which is totally destroying large sections of their country and turning native British people into 2nd class citizens in their own country. They don’t have a problem with highly skilled immigrants regardless of skin color. They just think that native Britains whose ancestors have lived there for thousands of years should have their livelyhoods and concerns placed above those of foreigners. Nothing too unreasonable. They don’t advocate violence. Just immigration reform. It’s only due to extreme political correctness that looking out for the best interests of native citizens is considered “Neo-Nazism”. They aren’t skinheads for God sakes.”

c’mon, I expect better from the pages of Pajamas Media…

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:42 pm 24. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Well I know that Bush, Howard & Thatcher don’t give the Hitler salute on camera unlike BNP members. I think for once the neo-Nazi tag much just be accurate when it comes to the BNP.

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:43 pm 25. EscapeVelocity:

White Westerners playing identity politics?

Oh the horror!

Exit question? Why isnt it a horror when any other groups play identity politics? Do you mean to tell me that the Western Left has been promoting bigoted prejudiced racist, sexist, religionist, ethnicist, genderist, politics for over 40 years? Say it isnt so!

Jun 8, 2009 - 7:02 pm 26. WR Jonas:

I’m with Morton and David .
This is definitely an emotional/ political reaction and its width and depth cannot yet be measured. When divisions between groups reaches a critical level. Then we will measure.

Jun 8, 2009 - 7:37 pm 27. Blackwater:

The BNP definitely has a shady past like most ethno-centric organizations. And unfortunately Neo-Nazism has hijacked a lot of European rights and advocacy groups for some reason. Not to mention the very idea of European rights and pride is frowned upon to say the least across the board. Which is unfortunate since Europeans have every right to preserve their amazing heritage and to advance their concerns like every other ethnic rights group actively persues without apology or scrutiny. And it seems for the last decade or so the BNP has cleansed a lot of their extremists out internally and have become much more maiinstream and moderate. And as a result are winning a lot more votes. And me personally I’m hoping they have some influence on British and European policies. I’m very worried about the land of my ancestors. They seem to have adopted the same self-destructive extreme leftist ideology that’s currently destroying my own country. Except that it’s even worse over there in Europe. At most the BNP will simply reform immigration and get rid of some overly zealous reverse descrimination laws and legislation. They aren’t going to turn the UK into Nazi Germany…

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:18 pm 28. ehunter:

ANDREW IAN DODGE:

How old is this freak? Sixteen? Who allowed this level of writing to get into PJTV. Send the moron back to the video arcade.

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:43 pm 29. Blackwater:

I forgot to add that it also sends a message to the other major parties in the UK and the rest of Europe that native Europeans are sick and tired of having their concerns and livelyhoods shoved off the table in order to cater to the concerns and livelyhoods of foreighers who more often than not are islamist fanatics who are openly hostile to the very country that is bending over backwards for them. You can only ignore the legitimate concerns of the people you govern over for so long before they vote for more hardlined parties.

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:43 pm 30. Marc Malone:

The minorities better hope this isn’t the start of a real trend. Historically, the Anglos are much better at anything they set their minds to be better at. We’re better at killing, for one thing. If the Anglos decide to put a real end to this farce, the minorities better head for far lands.

People can be pushed only so far. The minorities are making a mistake thinking that they can push forever; that Anglos have no spines. We hesitate to act, until it’s too late. Then, the bloodshed begins… in earnest. There is no more dangerous creature on this Earth than a white man who’s truly fed up and gives into his baser urges.

I’m not threatening here, just analyzing a bit. Past is prologue. I hope it’s just a protest vote, but it may not be. They may be truly tiring of suffering fools, in the UK.

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:58 pm 31. Blackwater:

And one last thing, you know things are getting really bad “on the ground” in British communities when even the left, the self-proclaimed champions of minorities, in the UK are voting for the BNP in droves. I’ve seen documentaries and news reports on the conditions in the UK, and it was from mainstream news organizations such as the BBC, where native British people have had their neighborhoods and communities totally destroyed by the huge influx of low skilled immigration from the third world in the last few decades. They even interviewed WWII veterans who were in their 80s who have lived in the same home for 60+ years who are now having to literally BOARD UP their windows out of fear from islamist thugs who terrorize the native population without any real help from the British police or government. Muslim immigrants are literally trying to ethnically cleanse entire towns of non-muslims through violence, rape and vandalism. Even black British people and upstanding muslim British citizens were upset with the ghettoization of their communities. When that kind of thing is going on throughout the entire country and continent of Europe, and the Western world in general, how can you blame people for voting for nationalistic parties? The European and Western governments simply need to address their very legitimate concerns and stop trying to win votes from islamic fundamentalists.

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:58 pm 32. EscapeVelocity:

Bravo Morton!

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:58 pm 33. EscapeVelocity:

You will find that the UKIP made bigger percentage gains. They arent Leftist economically, and they are strong opponents of rampant immigration and the Islamization, shariafication, etc of the UK.

Jun 8, 2009 - 9:12 pm 34. Anglo Unity:

When white people stand up for their race they’re “racists” and Neo-Nazis.” The British political elites of both Labour and Conservative parties have made it clear that any resistance to unchecked immigration and Islamic thuggishness will be punished by civil or criminal legal proceedings. Call it enforced multicultural appeasement. The BNP has courageously stood up to the political ruling class despite incredible harassment and persecution. Quit sniveling, Mr. Dodge. Go sulk in a mosque . . .

Jun 8, 2009 - 9:53 pm 35. David Thomson:

“White Westerners playing identity politics?

Oh the horror!”

It is indeed horrible. Identity politics is wrong regardless of one’s race or ethnicity. The intellectual, cultural, and legal traditions of the West transcend these secondary categories. However, none of these sad developments are surprising. I have long warned that the vile David Duke and his ilk will benefit from the politically correct institutions never ending attempts to make white people second class citizens. After awhile, one gets fed up being described as a cancer destroying the Earth.

Jun 8, 2009 - 11:12 pm 36. RAP:

So what if they are Neo-Nazis. You need vicious violet people to drive back the Muslim hordes. nice people aren’t going to get it done. You need a Charles Martel or Godfrey of Bouillion not a Neville Chamberlain. The Israelis understand this.

Jun 9, 2009 - 12:46 am 37. Blackwater:

What’s happening is that Western countries are getting sick of being used as giant orphanages and prisons for the third world. Before WWII there really was no mass immigration of the third world to the West. But then with the widespread creation of the welfare state in Western countires third world peoples started to flock their by the tens of millions. And Western idiots welcomed them with open arms and continue to do so to this day because they’ve been brainwashed by multiculturaist BS. And so naturally Westerners are getting fed up with entire large sections of their countries being taken over by hostile fundamentalist muslims and other various low lifes. And the kind of people who vote for the BNP aren’t Nazis. They’re simply noraml people who are sick of being abused and seeing their country being ruined by self-destructive idiots. And while there may have been anti-Jewish extremists in the BNP decades ago it thankfully seems to have been almost entirely done away with today. Now Jews are openly encouraged to join and are welcomed with open arms.

Jun 9, 2009 - 2:33 am 38. RightwingHippyChick:

Mr. Dodge urgently needs to watch ‘A conversation about Race’ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1084394769627714346&ei=RkAuSpGnOI33-Aas7LWxCQ&q=craig+bodeker&hl=en) and get current with the issues. The 90’s are over, and the BNP is highlighting valid concerns — in fact, they appear to have a monopoly on common sense politically at the moment, and all our professionals pundits and politicians manage to do is to yell mindless abuse at the BNP and their voters and pout petulantly in the corner.

Also observe: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1184614595?bctid=25713257001 for another embarrassing display just like this article by Mr. Dodge his, by a minister called ‘Hodge’ on Channel 4.

Is there no-one able and smart enough to take the BNP on properly instead of those woeful childish attempts that would be laughed out of Kindergarden?

I guess not, and this is why times are so interesting, it’s because we have allowed dull people to become our ‘elite’ and ‘thnkers’.

Jun 9, 2009 - 4:08 am 39. JFM:

I know some people who support the BNP. They aren’t Nazis. They don’t hate Jews. They hate excessive low skilled immigration from the third world which is totally destroying large sections of their country and turning native

Let’s discuus the case of Abu Hamza: he has been provided a car and a spacious house by the British tax payer and he gets about 8,000 (eight thousand) dollars a month from welfare.

He has never worked a single hour in the UK. His activity is preaching Jihad and calling for the murder of British citizens. Several arrested terrorists have been traced as having been recruited in his mosque.

Now, can anyone tell me why in the hell a country should accept on his soil people who will be either not profitable (ie produce less than they are expected to cost and that includes police costs if they tand to have high rates of crime) or downright harmful for the country?

Jun 9, 2009 - 4:39 am 40. ehunter:

When will people realize that Multiculturalism isnt about “equality” or “fairness”? Its about
seizing power, its about crushing the West using the Wests own principles of tolerance and openness.
A couple generations ago a vast majority of Americans embraced as normal that America was a white, European, Christian country and that those values were to be defended without shame. Those values were what built the USA and made it a success where almost all others were failures.
Look at us now. How can anyone not see Multiculturalism as a active enemy of this country. It is nothing but Bolshevism in slow motion grinding eveyone into a gray uniform mass with of course a cultural Commissar class in control.

Jun 9, 2009 - 6:34 am 41. BrainiacNC:

The true neo-Nazis in England are the Muslims – who really do hate Jews – not the BNP. Thank God SOMEONE in England is trying to stop the Muslim takeover.

Jun 9, 2009 - 6:56 am 42. what?:

“And fascinating times for students of politics everywhere.”

Well, clearly not referring to yourself there. The Green Party is not racist (check their website please) and at the election last week it held on to the 2 MEPs it won at the last European election. Get your facts right. Does PJM have editors?!

This sums up the danger of websites like these. Readers with no knowledge of a subject will accept these claims as fact when they are in fact nonsense. That is unhelpful to stimulating informed debate (which is PJMs point right?) and that is dangerous no matter what your political persuasion.

Jun 9, 2009 - 7:00 am 43. Another Chuck:

Shame on the so-called legitimate parties for giving Britons who love their country nowhere to go but to the BNP.

Jun 9, 2009 - 7:53 am 44. Wynne:

A fine piece of Neo-Gramscian commentary. It is always simpler to draw conclusions from assumptions than from facts. It is likewise self-reinforcing. Hence the easy arrogance.

“…successful socialist administration of the U.S….”
Really…?

Jun 9, 2009 - 2:09 pm 45. EscapeVelocity:

After awhile, one gets fed up being described as a cancer destroying the Earth. – David Thompson

Susan Sontag

50 plus years of villification and demonization, and dehumanization. Isnt that one of the stages of genocide?

Looks like Europe is going the Israeli Jew route. Good on them, they still have some fight in them afterall.

Dont blame the fed up white working class, blame the hatemongers of the New Left.

Jun 9, 2009 - 4:37 pm 46. Stuart:

If the British political establishment and the other key institutions demanded that Muslim minorities accept British norms, the BNP would not being able to mine very many votes.
The BNP is an ugly formation, but there is no nascent neo-fascist movement arise in Britain.
There is fear and anger, much of it based in reality, even if some of it is disturbingly channeled into support for the BNP.

Jun 9, 2009 - 7:54 pm 47. AClay1:

The success of the fringe parties, especially on the right, is a result of frustration with center-left politics. If the center right actually delivers on the economy and addresses the cultural concerns of middle class , the fringe will go back to being the fringe. Britain’s Conservative’s are not delivering, now we have the BNP.

Jun 9, 2009 - 9:54 pm 48. Alan K. Henderson:

Perhaps many BNP supporters don’t hate Jews, but what of their leadership? From a De Telegraaf article linked by Little Green Footballs (translated by Babelfish):

“When David Duke attended an Euro-Rus conference in Dendermonde, Belgium, he stayed the weekend with a local Vlaams Belang council member. The council member, Karin Milik, and her husband Thierry De Rijcke (the personal bodyguard of party leader Filip deWinter) are close personal friends of David Duke. Other council members of Vlaams Belang in the city of Dendermonde are unhappy with this and are demanding the resignation of Karin Milik, but it seems the party leaders will let her get away with this if she admits her error.”

“Euro-Rus is an organisation wanting the US, Europe and Russia to work together to combat Zionism and immigration. Nick Griffin of the British National Party was also a speaker at this racist conference.”

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30530

David Duke? Vlaams Belang? What’s Nick Griffin doing hanging out with that sort of company?

This wasn’t the only time Griffin shared a stage with David Duke. LGF has an article with an embedded news video of a rally the two attended in Texas. The article also has an update concerning Vlaams Belang and certain of its policies that Jews find troubling:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33721_The_Fascist_Strategy_of_Entryism

In the video, Griffin speaks of the importance of language in public relations; one must use “saleable words” to sell ideas. “As I say, freedom, security, identity, democracy. Nobody can criticise them, nobody can come at you and attack you on those ideas. They are saleable.” His prime example is that “instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity.”

Golly, has Griffin been reading the Screwtape Letters?

http://www.roemermanonrecord.com/2009/02/screwtape-on-democracy.html

I gotta blog this…

Jun 9, 2009 - 10:52 pm 49. Krimper:

I used to come to PajamasMedia for intelligent well written articles. This I’m afraid is the watershed. The author talks of ‘neo-nazism’ and ‘BNP thuggery’ which if they existed he would have highlighted. The author is either an imbecile or has some other extreme agenda. The really sad part is that this juvenile rant has appeared on this website.
Then some moron tries to defend the Green party as not racist. What the Green party isn’t is ‘green’. Any party that has an open door imigration policy cannot be green.

Jun 10, 2009 - 12:29 am 50. Andrew Ian Dodge:

I highlighted some of it with links, which Krimper obviously failed to follow. Here are a few bits to back of my piece. There is a far more out there if you care to use Google.

BNP activists giving the Nazi salute with commentary from ex-BNPer. Nick Griffin, head of the BNP/now MEP, sharing a stage with David Duke. Green Party candidae neo-Nazi and of course Green Party Israel/Jew bashing.

Jun 10, 2009 - 7:59 am 51. Bohemond:

Enoch Powell was right. Not about the immigrants themselves, but about the supine ‘centrist’ politicians who would abandon the native Briton, leaving him nowhere to go but to the ugly fringes.

The BNP would be an electoral joke had LabLibCon not fallen into a suicidal open-borders madness.

Jun 10, 2009 - 8:00 am 52. Middleman:

The BNP is ABSOLUTELY neo-nazi. They’ve merely been putting on a happy everyman face in recent years and cut down the racist rhetoric, to obvious gains.
Certainly much of the vote was a protest vote by common Britons, but it’s still alarming the BNP is now in this position.
Anyone who doubts otherwise should read Bill Buford’s Among The Thugs on football hooliganism. Particularly the chapter on St. Bury Edmunds where the author attends a neo-nazi skinhead party attended by BNP head Nick Griffin, now one of the representatives to the EU parliament.

Jun 10, 2009 - 8:41 am 53. Sam Duncan:

Blackwater, if your friends only want immigration reform and don’t support national socialism, why didn’t they vote for the UK Independence Party, a non-racist, classical liberal party that advocates exactly that? The BNP won its seat in the Northwest by less than a thousand votes over UKIP, on a turnout of over 1.5 million.

Incidentally, although this will have a different resonance here on PJM, are your friends aware that the BNP is republican? It tends to keep that quiet.

Jun 10, 2009 - 10:18 am 54. David M. in Europe:

Andrew Ian Dodge

I’m not a resident of once “Great” Britain and have no idea about the BNP; but wonder why you let Socialists, Communists and Greens off the hook? Is there a particular reason or agenda? We must remember that Socialist, Communists and Greens support Hamas and Hizbollah and they are the neo-Nazis of our time.

#48 Allan K. Henderson

One must be very careful to take LGF and Charles Johnson seriously. I think this man has a serious mental problem. Vlaams Belang was the only Belgian party that supported Israel against Hamas.

Jun 10, 2009 - 10:26 am 55. ricpic:

Neo-Nazi BNP: You mean they dare to be proud of being British? And they dare to oppose Britain’s further descent into a multi-ethnic dystopia?

Jun 10, 2009 - 11:23 am 56. Middleman:

Kicking all non-whites out of Britain? Sounds neo-nazi to me.

All you really have to do is go to Youtube and type in BNP and listen straight from their mouths.
They’re a little bit smarter than many of their American counterparts who seem more interested in caricatures of sambos hanging from nooses, so it might confuse some of you.

Jun 10, 2009 - 11:51 am 57. Michael:

Middleman, get a clue. Get your head out of the 1950s.

One thing is certain, if the parties in the center and right had not lost their way and ignored the average voter they would be garnering most of those votes and BNP would still be a rather silly fringe orginization.

Jun 10, 2009 - 3:44 pm 58. Middleman:

Get a clue? What are you talking about Michael, I would dare say I’m more clued up than most of the yahoos on here who think the BNP is a television station.

Also, quit stating the obvious while you’re at it. It’s pretty apparent that many of the UK’s voters felt alienated. However you still have to ask, why the BNP rather than the UKIP?

Jun 11, 2009 - 6:23 am 59. Andrew Ian Dodge:

It might interest some of you to know that the guy who shot up the Holocaust museum attended meetings of The American Friends of the British National Party.

Jun 11, 2009 - 10:59 am 60. Alan K. Henderson:

David M,

De Telegraaf reported the Griffin/Duke/Vlaams Belang harmonic convergence; LGF simply happened to link it. Do you trust De Telegraaf as a legitimate news source?

Nick Griffin himself made the comments quoted in the video linked in the second LGF post. He clearly established racial purity as an ideal of the BNP, which should be denoted by the “saleable” word “identity” to the general public.

‘Vlaams Belang was the only Belgian party that supported Israel against Hamas.’

One might say that I supported the Fascists against the Communists in the Spanish Civil War. That doesn’t mean I have any affinity for the Fascists – I think they were the lesser evil.

Aside from Le Pen, do any of these associations call the character of VB’s Filip Dewinter (no relation to Milady DeWinter from “The Three Musketeers”) into question?

“Hanging on the wall of Dewinter’s office, where the interview takes place, is a large poster from the 1960s that reads: “Europe, free yourself!” The banner is signed by an organization of nationalist parties in Europe, including the Italian Socialist Movement (MSI), the neo-fascist party established by Mussolini’s supporters, and the German National Democratic Party (NPD), one of the most extreme far-right movements in Europe, which some say is really neo-Nazi. On the windowsill are several small flags of sister parties of Dewinter’s party: the party of Austrian Joerg Haider, the French National Front of Jean-Marie Le Pen and the German Republican Party.”

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=617761

Jun 11, 2009 - 10:03 pm 61. Alan K. Henderson:

The same article reports Dewinter’s professed affinity for Israel. One professor suspects that this more political expediency than genuine support – read the whole thing.

Attending a conference with David Duke isn’t exactly something I’d want on my political resume.

Jun 11, 2009 - 10:09 pm 62. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Lest you think the BNP are not neo-Nazi here is a report on their online activities.

Jul 14, 2009 - 5:06 am 63. ehunter:

The BNP IS NOT NEO NAZI..its the common sense expression of people sick to death of Cultural Marxism. Its only a measure of just how intimidated the British People by PC that it was left to shaved head bikers with swastika tattoos to be the only ones to have either the guts or lack of social polish to scream that the Emperor has no clothes. The movement has moved on from there a long time ago.

Oct 27, 2009 - 8:59 pm

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