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1. FFFFF:

There is no hope to keep Sharia away unless ‘Islamic immigration’ isn’t criticized together with Sharia Law self.

In Great Britain we have someone (’ex’ Islamic woman) criticizing Sharia, but refusing to criticize Islamic immigration. That’s why Sharia will keep going on there ….

To ‘fight’ against anti-Democracy, anti-Laicity, anti-Freedom, anti-Human Rights people have to be COHERENT. And understand, that Islam brings Sharia, and that Sharia without Islam never lands in a Country (XXI. Century).

‘Islamic immigration’ and Sharia Law are twin concepts. Supporting and encouraging one and fighting against the other, brings to nothing.

People (honestly) seeking for Asylum (coming from Islamic countries, partially of fully ruled by Sharia Law) will maybe ‘be the answer’ (for Democracy, Laicity, Freedom, Human Rights): http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025335.php

Kindest regards.

Mar 21, 2009 - 9:27 am 2. Nancy P.:

Gaffney scares me because he seems so right. (Good show, btw)

Mar 21, 2009 - 11:12 am 3. John McLachlan:

FFFFF: The fact that the lady whom you referred to is an ex-muslim indicates that muslims are just people who subscribe to a particular (incorrect) belief system, but who, nonetheless can be pursuaded to abandon their (incorrect)beliefs, if properly debated and demonstrated that their ideology is incorrect. The failure of western civilisation is its willingness to ascribe legitimacy to ideologies or religions which are demonstrably evil and incompatible with human rights, which most people, throughout the world recognise as fundamental. Even in those societies where they are ‘abridged’, they are generally regarded as legitimate aspirations. The belief that islam, or any other totalitarian ideology can be defeated by military means alone is an abandonment of faith in human nature. The judeo-christian values, upon which western civilisation are founded are demonstrably more conducive to human dignity and happiness than islam. The failure of western leadership, largely through post-colonial guilt is giving an undeserved advantage to the islamiscists. Islamic expansion is being achieved, not because islam is a superiour religion and the islamicists are winning in debate. It is being achieved because the western leadership has choosen a suicidal strategy of appeasement and concession. It has also chosen to neutralise and marginalise the grass-roots dissatisfaction with this defeatist policy. Just as nothing suceeds like success, nothing fails like failure. Western leaderships policy of undermining opposition to islamicisation may be the greatest contribution to the polarisation of society, because eventually, islamicists will make demands which no-one is prepared to concede and already emboldened, the muslims will seek to impose them by force.

Mar 21, 2009 - 11:29 am 4. Camaron:

One minor correction: radical Islam is in America already, and it is fermenting in every Muslim community. Islam is spreading to the west, because the leaders of western countries rather deal with this venom with appeasement than fight it or prevent it from entering. Instead, Europe (and America) is not only opening its borders to Islam, but also actively importing the disease.

With the current administration, the prospects of our nation are not good. Why people are not worried, not to mention scared, is beyond me.

Al-Qaida in Minneapolis

Mar 21, 2009 - 1:37 pm 5. ms:

The Muslims have every intention of taking over the world. I know that sounds ridiculous to most people and really it is. That doesn’t mean it isn’t true. They are doing every thing in their power do accomplish this goal and they are succeeding quite well. Look at the Netherlands. Look what’s happening in the UK. They use terrorism or the threat of terrorism to make governments comply with their demands. Then cry foul when they are called terrorists. They have rewritten history not only for themselves but for school children who are not Muslim and we have allowed that. To give into the demands of terrorists is to invite more terror. Too much has been given already and we will be very, very sorry indeed if it doesn’t stop.

Mar 21, 2009 - 2:07 pm 6. Joe Six-Pack:

Islam is far more than just a religion. Islam has foreign policy, an economic system and legal system with legal rulings that go back 1400 years. It was designed as a nation-state long before they became established. Thus the loyalty to Islam over any government.

This war has been coming to the U.S. for a long time. Our forcing our enemies to attack our military in Iraq and Afghanistan has diverted much of that effort. However, our new policy is to go over from an offensive posture to a defensive one. No wonder we need to upgrade the Department of Homeland defense. We are going to need it when we are hit again. It is only a matter of time.

Mar 21, 2009 - 3:25 pm 7. JD:

Europe is gone and, unless action is taken, America is next.

The jihadists’ goal is only made easier by non-entities like Janet Napolitano, who refuses to even acknowledge that Islamic terrorism exists:

http://trackacrat.com/2009/03/20/language-defines-reality/

Mar 21, 2009 - 5:57 pm 8. jasonS:

It’s as simple as this. Cut off their welfare payments. The best way to domesticize those who practice the murderous cult of Islam is to force them to work for their own livlihood like anyone else. This is the best way to instill rational values in those whose minds are not anchored in reality. Most of the problem with European radicalism occurs because entire communities are on the dole and have nothing to do but indulge themselves in radical Islamic filth.

Mar 21, 2009 - 6:21 pm 9. dmgold:

Most Israelis are very aware that the conflict it now faces is not a nationalist conflict but a religious war of open Jihad.We are also acutely aware of the pressures being applied to Israel by so called allies in their attempts to appease Islam.

Israel is being pressured to accomodate an enemy whose intentions are clear to us but are being obscured by the western media and political classes.

If the US doesnt wake up and quick, it will have imported and nurtured a virulent political/religious culture that will never cease to undermine the American way of life from within until it can be replaced by Sharia.

WAKE UP AMERICA

Mar 21, 2009 - 9:42 pm 10. Peg C.:

Joe Six-Pack is right: we WILL Be hit again. In our comatose denial, we are begging for it. TOTUS in his appalling weakness is inviting it.

I love Gaffney and try to catch his appearances on Monica Crowley’s radio show.

Mar 22, 2009 - 6:18 am 11. Nothere:

What do you mean “is coming”? It is here. Where I live there are thousands of women, black, white, arab, who wander around in bags and sheets, never using toilet paper, ranting about destroying Israel. And guess what – some of their biggest supporters are liberal Jews. I am glad I am old and will die before Sharia is the law of the land.

Mar 22, 2009 - 6:44 am 12. Koblog:

The stronger religion will win.

Which will it be:

- Scientism (imagine there’s no heaven; it’s easy if you try…) and its core tenet that everything resulted by random chance

- Environmentalism with its worship of rocks, trees and water

- Socialist Utopian dreams of my father and its belief wealth, prosperity and equality can be created by fiat

- Groupthink chants of “We love you Obama!” and an army of brownshirts taking a personal oath to Dear Leader

- A billion adherents to Islam willing to die to advance their Sharia dreams of world dominance

- A tepid Christianity more interested in escapist end-times novels

Mar 22, 2009 - 7:56 am 13. ruit:

In ‘87 I recall approx 15 men training several times a week in military fatigues in a field across from the Mosque at LSU in Baton Rouge. This was definitely military style training and I’m sure this was taking place in some form at all university Mosques. These guys were from many different countries. I met many of them in my research visits to the mosque itself. They definitely have a plan.

Mar 22, 2009 - 8:00 am 14. Insufficiently Sensitive:

- Environmentalism with its worship of rocks, trees and water

Not really. Dickey birds and ’scientific’ biologists nattering away are well and good, but the motivating force of environmentalism is the devil of capitalism. Fighting evil capitalism (and particularly capitalists who make profits) gets the juices up and can assemble mobs and draw contributions from ‘the better sort’ of people who wish to take credit for unbroken vistas of nature.

This is the movement which does its best to strangle power plants – which are the source of the high standard of living in the US. They can spread fear against clean nuclear power – and have very successfully done it for two generations. It is strongly for regimenting populations and denying individual freedoms.

If you think not, try as an adult to buy or sell a piece of property in the shape and size you choose to another consenting adult. Try clearing your back 40, or bridging the little creek that flows through it. Try moving to Seattle, and building a nice house on an acre a few miles from town – you’ll find the whole political establishment ranged in ranks to deny that wish, and to use all means to stuff you and your family into one of the thousands of ticky-tacky four-story rabbit hutches that are mandated and are sprouting inside the city limits.

Mar 22, 2009 - 8:20 am 15. bour3:

John McLachlan, that one woman lost her religion and so she’s proof to you that it can happen, but most immigrants will keep their religion no matter how successfully debated. You can win the debate up and down all around and throughout and still not cause the bulk of immigrants to lose the religion. Period. It’s just that dense and thick. You’re calling on immigrants to remake their entire histories, their family histories, their entire sense of selves — a complete personality make-over, and that’s just not going to happen no matter how well you debate. With Islam comes Sharia, the two are linked inexorably.

Debates work well for scoring debating points but do little to nothing in persuading entire populations to change their mind sets, their senses of being, notwithstanding that one woman nor the few other notables.

I know of no one who believes Islam or any other totalitarian ideology can be defeated by military means alone. I’ve never heard or ever read that proposed, except by way of projection. I don’t know where you get that, other than the straw-man factory.

Debate is good, yes, but immigration control is even better and adherence to our own laws and constitution is even better. Islam generally appears impervious to argumentation and indifferent to human rights as the West understands it.

Mar 22, 2009 - 10:22 am 16. rssg:

As others have said – without stopping or at least reducing muslim immigration, there is no hope of stopping radical Islam and Sharia. None. And take it from a life-long resident of Dearborn-istan, Michigan. No hope without cutting back on immigration.

But that same can be said of immigration in general. Half of Mexico will be in the US if immigration (legal and illegal) isn’t reduced.

Liberals on the left and on the right, refuse to address the real issue – mass immigration. Reduce it or we will crumble.

Mar 22, 2009 - 10:23 am 17. b:

The unfortunate reality is that until a global Islamic Reformation occurs, the only temporary solution is to suspend immigration by Muslims into Western countries.

Mar 22, 2009 - 10:59 am 18. Toads:

Frankly, there are a few benefits to Islam coming to America. One of those is that Islam will effectively deal with radical feminism.

Radical Islam has killed how many Americans so far? 7000?

Radical feminism has ruined the lives of how many men and children through the divorce process? 10 million? 20 million? 30 million?

I think radical feminism is worse for American men than radical Islam. Therefore, given the choice, I opt for a tiny bit of the latter.

Mar 22, 2009 - 11:26 am 19. rssg:

I agree with “b”, although I wouldn’t say it’s unfortunate. I long for a reduction in all immigration into the USA, especially from Mexico and the Islamic nations (and I realize calling them ‘nations’ is a stretch).

You can not separate Sharia Law from Muslims – that is their way. Today’s muslims arrive in the USA much more fundamentalist than they did 20-30 years ago. Of course, the numbers of immigrants are much higher today as well.

Islam is not only a religion but it’s also very much a political ideology and one that has been hostile to the West for decades and decades. It doesn’t have anything to do wth G.W. Bush. This has been going on for the better part of the a century.

Mar 22, 2009 - 11:35 am 20. billie:

They have already taken over Dearborn MI and is known locally as Dearbornistan. The Fordson high school is known as Hezbollah High.

The ICE folks wont address the illegal alien Islamic folks there locally. The FBI pal around with them at functions. Its a mess up there.

They pray in school and the ACLU wont even dare go there. What would the ACLU do if some Christian wanted to pray in the school. Be on them like a Goose on a June Bug.

Mar 22, 2009 - 11:36 am 21. David Ross:

People who rant about “scientism” and call mainline Christian churches “tepid” aren’t averse to Shari’a. They’re just miffed that it’s coming from another religion.

Mar 22, 2009 - 11:44 am 22. Paul A'Barge:

It won’t happen here because in the USA if the state won’t fix this, average people will.

We’ve done this before. We did it during the American revolution when we shot the British soldiers where they stood and we did it during the great westward migration when there was virtually no organized law enforcement and people formed vigilante organizations to defend themselves.

This is not Europe, folks. We are armed to the teeth here.

Mar 22, 2009 - 4:50 pm 23. Jerry Pulley:

Excuse me, what was that noise at the end of the clip? I had to jump across the room to mute it, so I may have missed something.

Kindly don’t do that again.

Mar 22, 2009 - 6:11 pm 24. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:

TOADS
#18
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm…! Another obvious case of advanced cranial
rectitis !!
S.M.

Mar 23, 2009 - 9:07 am 25. Gary B.:

Paul
#22
I would like to agree with you, but today’s Americans just don’t have the balls to stand their ground, Paul. They will be coming after our guns soon, so buy all the ammo you can. “From my cold, dead hands…”

Mar 23, 2009 - 12:46 pm 26. Jane:

Well, I don’t think the Islamic radicals will hit us yet….I believe they are waiting for Obama to drag this country down to a low point economically and then hit us at our most vunerable point………Am I wrong? …….just an opinion, would like to have feedback on this

Mar 24, 2009 - 5:15 pm 27. Leatherneck:

OK, all together. There is no such thing a radical Islam. Following Mohamed is true Islam. Mohamed murdered, and raped. The only radical militants within Islam are those Muslims being peaceful.

History proves me to be correct.

Mar 24, 2009 - 7:48 pm 28. Pat J:

This coming from the guy who said this about our fallen soldiers in Iraq:

“My position is it is regrettable that any Americans died. It is regrettable that they had to die, but I believe they did have to die. The threat we knew about was the chemical capability that Saddam Hussein had used against his own people. And that’s the reason I’m still delighted that we did what we did.”

Mar 25, 2009 - 12:54 pm 29. ali hason:

as a muslim i am taught that it is good a assist allah in his plans and he is the best of planners ALLAH THE IRRESTABLE good for america!!no more “demon-occracy”

May 11, 2009 - 9:57 am

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