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1. joeblough:

This is an outrage.

If it is allowed to stand Britain is certainly done.

Actually, the fact that it could happen in the first place is pretty good proof that Britain is done and over in any case.

If this is how things are to be, then what was the point of fighting WWII?

Feb 10, 2009 - 4:41 pm 2. webterractive:

In this case Muslims have no rights in the United States which I think he should come in, mobolize 10,000 well that’s 10,000 new datainees at Gitmo.

Feb 10, 2009 - 4:42 pm 3. Marc Malone:

Where are the so-called “moderate Muslims.”? Surely, they have no problem with a callout to remove the violence from Islam? Right? Right? Anyone? Bueller?

Feb 10, 2009 - 4:51 pm 4. Mary Jackson:

Well done, Andrew, for getting this out so quickly as events have unfolded. The whole thing is bizarre – first Fitna was to be shown, then not, then it was again, then an official press release from Lord Pearson and now this utterly disgusting development.

I loathe our craven Labour government and the despicable “Jacqui” [sic] Smith who – presumably – is behind this cowardly ban. Cowardly and rushed. For if Geert Wilders is a threat now, wasn’t he a threat when he had lunch at the House of Lords in December last year, or when he gave an interview on Radio 4 about six months ago?

I hope that he will come to London anyway. Apparently the House of Lords invitation is still open. If they arrest him, that will create the publicity that this disgusting government is doing its best to avoid.

Feb 10, 2009 - 4:58 pm 5. Bilgeman:

“Needless to say, Wilders, not afraid of arrest, will fly to Heathrow as planned, daring them to detain him when he lands in the UK.”

Geert Wilders is apparently a man of great conviction and the courage to hold to them.
(And I’m not just talking about his hair).

“It also reveals the farcical nature of the free society that once was Britain.”

Comapared to Wilders, the Brown government is naught but appeasing buffoons, posturing for their pet TeeVee cameras,(think: “Silence of The Lambs”, with vastly better tailoring).

Britain once stood alone against Hitler’s, Tojo’s and Mussolini’s legions, it’s inheritors quail and betray their freedoms before the implied threat of 10,000 wretched protestors.

How very sad.

I would think it past high time that the Queen move to de-ennoble some of these Chamberlains and Quislings who have wormed their way into Parliament.

She is, after all, as much a religious figure as a secular one, is she not?

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:02 pm 6. Rob:

Gordon Brown is a liberal fascist, plain and simple. Freedom in the UK is dead. It’s about to die in the US, too.

Remember – the answer to November 2008 is July 1776.

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:24 pm 7. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Mary, thanks for you kind words, but it far more because of my wife editors here at PJM that decided to go with this quickly. I merely wrote about something that I thought importance.

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:28 pm 8. Morton Doodslag:

So embracing Islamic filth and heaping honors on them such as a Lordship for Ahmed isn’t working out? Who could have predicted it?

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:29 pm 9. Voice in the Wilderness:

The only thing more depressing than the current state of affairs in the US is the current state of Europe.

They are subject to persecution for exercising free speech. We aren’t – not so much – not yet anyway.

Wait for the “fairness” doctrine to resurface…then in a year or so we will be in the same boat as the UK, France and the rest of Europe.

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:29 pm 10. Leatherneck:

Yea, death threats from the religion of peace.

Makes me sick to my stomach. ROPMA!

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:47 pm 11. ked5:

this is what we have to look forward to in the US.

Feb 10, 2009 - 6:03 pm 12. Christopher Smith:

@Marc Malone

All the “moderate” (we call are selfs smart or at least not mentally retarded) already have this on their Ipod. We show it to people who ask about it.

All dogmas have a call to arms. Christianity’s wars before the rapture were all Christians take up arms and murder all the non believers to prepare the world for the 2nd coming of christ is the same thing as the Jihad. Just an FYI Jihad is when god comes and shifts the planet into paradise. All the sinners will die and go to hell.

ALL faiths have an ‘end of the world’ scenario. Hell even Buddhism where eating meat is a sin has the buddishtavas come to earth and murder every non-believer.

What I wanna know is why is the world flipping out over our version of the same story?

Feb 10, 2009 - 6:03 pm 13. Heather:

And the europeans are always saying what about the US, that it’s run by Christian fundamentalists? It’s too funny! They’ll be saying that about the US when they’re living under Sharia!

Feb 10, 2009 - 6:07 pm 14. Kevin:

When in the course of human events….

Feb 10, 2009 - 7:47 pm 15. Meryl:

12 Christopher Smith….whatever you’re sniffing, I’d suggest you put it down and back away. Hurry and collect your pay from the Muslim who hired you to register such patent nonsense about Christian beliefs. Sheesh.

One of the major statements of Christ about His return was the simple question of whether He would find faith on earth when he returned. If you want to learn something, read Matthew 24 and check out the standard to which He holds Christians, how they are to be caring for others at His return. (And not “others” who are Christians–anyone in need)

Feb 10, 2009 - 8:11 pm 16. Benson:

I’d like Christopher Smith to provide a reference for his claim about Buddhism. I believe he may be referring to some self-deluded splinter group I don’t know of, some nutcases that do not follow the explicit and unambiguous teachings of the Buddha. People are, after all, able to corrupt any ethical system.

In spite of clear statements by the Buddha, many who call themselves Buddhists worship Hindu idols, ignore the precepts of the Buddhist practice, and flounder in superstition — what the Buddha called empty rites and rituals.

BTW, eating meat is not a sin in Buddhism; the Buddha said, “Eat what is given.” His last meal, which is suspected to have been toxic, may have been either food for pigs or food containing pork — scholars are not sure what the Pali word for “pig food” originally meant in this context. He did eat meat, and while many Buddhists do not, it is not correct to say Buddhism condemns eating meat as a sin. It is a breach of practice for those who have been ordained, but even that is not a sin, but an “unskillful” act, “akusala” in technical terms.

As to Christianity, yes of course it has a bloody and shameful past. Unlike Islam, it evolved. Yes, some who claim to be Christians follow leaders who debase the teachings of Jesus. Again, nothing surprising there.

The Koran is explicit and precise. It is highly significant that simply quoting it is considered by Muslims to be a crime that should be punished with death.

Read what Jesus said. Do the same for the Buddha. Then take another look at the Koran, and you will see the firm basis for Islamophobia. The word does not mean “hatred of Islam,” but “fear of Islam.”

Buddhists note: your practice is considered idolatry by Islam, which explains why Buddhism is so rare in the region of its birth — it was exterminated, the monks slaughtered, the centers of practice destroyed, when Islam arrived. The reason: “Idolatry is worse than carnage.” Koran, 2:190. Merely being a Buddhist is a capital offense, according to the inerrant word of the Muslims’ creator-god. This is not empty theology, it is practice: look at southern Thailand today. Then consider this clear injunction: “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.” Koran, 9:123.

You either expose and oppose this unambiguous evil, or you bend your knee to it. “Islam” means, after all, “submission.”

By their cowardice, the nations of The Netherlands and The United Kingdom besmirch and renounce their glorious contributions to Western Civilization.

Feb 10, 2009 - 8:31 pm 17. Bug Eye Guy:

I don’t have a tune for this one, so you can make up your own.

Hey ho, hey ho, hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, let’s start up and have a party
We’ll pout, we’ll shout, we’ll scream all day
We’ll keep it up just to have our way
Hey ho, hey ho, hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho let’s start up and have our party

Everyone must understand
Wilders is not welcome in our land
If he comes here we’ll chop his hand
and bury him in the sand

Hey ho, Hey ho, hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, let’s start up and have our party
We’ll pout, we’ll shout, we’ll scream all day
We’ll keep it up to have our way
Hey ho, Hey ho hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, lets start up and have our party

If he comes here, we’ll chop his head
We’ll shoot his body full of lead
and make sure that he’s dead
Parliament’s floor will run red

Hey ho, hey ho hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, let’s start up and have our party
We’ll pout, we’ll shout, we’ll scream all day
We’ll keep it up to have our way
Hey ho, Hey ho hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, let’s start up and have our party

Parliament you must know
That Fitna you’re not to show
Or we’ll cause you tons of woe
and insurrection we will sow

Hey ho, hey ho hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, let’s start up and have our party
We’ll pout, we’ll shout, we’ll scream all day
We’ll keep it up to have our way
Hey ho, hey ho hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, let’s start up and have our party

You better watch what you say
You infidels will have to pay
Or you will rue the day
Sharia law is our way

Hey ho, hey ho, hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho, let’s start up and have our party
We’ll pout, we’ll shout, we’ll scream all day
We’ll keep it up to have our way
Hey ho, hey ho hurry up don’t be tardy
Hey ho, hey ho let’s start up and have our party

Folks ain’t this special. Hope youall like this!

Feb 10, 2009 - 10:15 pm 18. winemkr:

I wonder if Obama would let Geert into the USA.

He’s welcome in my home, and he would be VERY well protected.

Feb 10, 2009 - 11:50 pm 19. Honest Jon:

One ought to keep in mind the tremendous outrage generated in Britain during the early ’80s by the Monty Python film, “The Life of Brian.” (A personal favorite) The film was banned in the UK. With regard to the very-much-more secular UK today, it is incomprehensible that Mr. Wilders’ film (much less he himself) be treated in such a manner. The Brits seem to be coasting at a very rapid clip into dhimmitude. Trying to appease the Muslim minority by keeping out the truth is ridiculous.

My take: Let him in and broadcast the film on the BBC. If the Muslims revolt, deport them for being agitators that somehow got by the authorities at Heathrow who now are going to arrest Mr. Wilders.

Feb 11, 2009 - 5:11 am 20. Paul -Indiana:

It’s too bad that the British government is becoming a group of Dhimmi. However, Fitna is alive and well on the Internet. It’s easy to find.

Feb 11, 2009 - 5:25 am 21. Mary Jackson:

it is incomprehensible that Mr. Wilders’ film (much less he himself) be treated in such a manner.

Lord Pearson has said (on BBC Radio 4 today) that the screening of Fitna in the House of Lords will go ahead “with or without Wilders”. If it is without him, it will be like Hamlet without the Prince.

Feb 11, 2009 - 6:43 am 22. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Er, sorry for that garbled message, I was a bit distracted at the time by events at home. I meant to say that its thanks to the editors here that it went up so quickly. Kudos to them for seeing it as such an important story (unlike the MSM).

Feb 11, 2009 - 7:23 am 23. Hugh:

Is this the same Britain that didn’t care how many Christians, or people with more then 2 active brain cells, were offended by televising the Monkey Man President from Iran speech on Christmas?

So the threat of civil unrest is how business gets done in Britain? Very interesting. You’ve provided a blueprint for dominating your country in the future.

Feb 11, 2009 - 7:24 am 24. Mongoose:

Christopher Smith: You are repeating Left wing slanders about Christianity. You evidently know absolutely nothing about one of the core pillars of your civilization. It is a tragedy for you; it is a tragedy for the rest of us.

Let me suggest that you should examine what you say and stop repeating received beliefs without subjecting them to critical thought and moral reflection.

It untrue, moreover, that Christianity has some sort of deeply bloody past compared to other major faiths and key civilizations. This is particularly true when considered as a faith alone. The cruelty of the ancient wold was a daily and burtal affair. It is in fact this crisis of life the fed that era which saw of the creation and spread of most of the worlds key faiths–the 500 years orso so tears between the birth of Buhdda and Confususe, and Jesus Christ. There is little comparison with that brutality the older pagan world which these faiths sought to address.

Also, contemporaneous cultures and civilizations were profoundly more “bloody”. Witness Timorlane, the golden hoards, etc. Remember as well that the Crusades were in great measure reconquest of previously Christian lands, particularly in the earlier pahses of the Crusading movement. Additionally, the depredations of the Inquisition, though regrettable, are much exaggerated by the enemies of Christian faith, and, in any event, many of the severe cases were more the result of localized state political tyranny rather than official ecclesiastical tyranny across Christendom.

There is a great deal of slander and exaggeration in the anti-christian propaganda about Christianity, and it is well documented on the web. Please avail yourself of these resources before you go out and slander and insult 2.1 billio people.

Feb 11, 2009 - 8:25 am 25. wildman:

Somehow, i believe that the screenplay for a clockwork orange is being used as the operations guide to the government in britain.

Feb 11, 2009 - 8:45 am 26. Ian Thorpe:

It is an outrage of course but is only similar to the recent refusal of the US Supreme Court to demand from one of the Presidential candidates proof of his elegibility to serve as President.
I have read conservative commentators say it was the threat of civil unrest that lubricated Obama’s path to the Presidency. Here the fear of civil unrest though unrealistic, is cited as the reason for banning Geert Wilders.

The Labour Party, in government for twelve years now, has long been dominated by politically correct thinkers. this is just the latest example of trying to pretend the race issue dominates all others.

Labour is dead in the water though, having abandoned all its principles along with its core constituency it can now only hope to salvage its pride at the next election by pandering to the Asian vote which always swings a few constituencies to Labour. Even that is a high risk tactic as the extremist BNP are making inroads into the Labour vote in many working class areas.

You have all this to look forward to with your new Politically Correct Celebrity President I guess.

Feb 11, 2009 - 8:45 am 27. Andrew Ian Dodge:

The letter to Wilders is just craven cowering to Lord Ahmed. Its disgusting. As I said in my piece please watch Fitna and tell others about it.

Feb 11, 2009 - 9:21 am 28. Jonesy55:

Ian Thorpe is correct in that the current labour governemtn has little to no hope of being re-elected and has only a year or so to run.

The erosion of civil liberties has been ramped up since the last election and is something that has been annoying many Brits of all political persuasions which is one reason for their unpopularity.

We really need to sort out the deeply unfair electoral system which keeps political power rotating within a duopoly of parties and makes it very difficult for anybody else to break through. Unfortunately the only people with the power to do this are the two parties who benefit most from it.

The fact that we also don’t have a formally codified written constitution also makes it easier for politicians to weasel their way around those informal and traditional constitutional arrangements which do exist.

Feb 11, 2009 - 9:23 am 29. deguello:

Just another example of European nuance, sophistication, and sensitivity;in plain english: SERVILE APPEASSEMENT!

Feb 11, 2009 - 10:55 am 30. Bilgeman:

#26 Ian Thorpe:

“I have read conservative commentators say it was the threat of civil unrest that lubricated Obama’s path to the Presidency. Here the fear of civil unrest though unrealistic, is cited as the reason for banning Geert Wilders.”

Yes, there was some veiled threats of civil unrest and race riots, notably from some ignorant bitch in a Philadelphia paper.

What you should bear in mind, though, is that unrest in the United States is not the same as it would be in Britain.

We all have guns over here, y’see.

Woe betide the Islamist mob or race rioters that gets within about 500 meters of my home.

American blowhards who threaten such things always do so in ignorance also of the fact that there are always folks who can be found willing to load up the car with some shooters and go looking for troublemakers.

“It is an outrage of course but is only similar to the recent refusal of the US Supreme Court to demand from one of the Presidential candidates proof of his elegibility to serve as President.”

Indeed it is.

Feb 11, 2009 - 11:46 am 31. David Gillies:

I want to see ‘Lord’ Ahmed charged with incitement. Of all the variegated turd-blossoms with which the Labour Party has stuffed the Lords, he is one of the most repellent.

Feb 11, 2009 - 11:50 am 32. zanne:

#26 I think this would be a nice time for the public to renew their interest to see ALL of o’s paperwork. Not just the b.c but,the school transcripts also.

Feb 11, 2009 - 1:34 pm 33. Honest Jon:

21. Mary Jackson:

Here’s the thing that matters to me: As long as the film doesn’t call for or specifically incite violence or hatred of Muslims, then it should be a non-issue. The jamming down our throats of political correctness be damned! If the Muslim community feels slighted, then they might just look to reform their religion or at least speak out vociferously concerning Islamist terrorism and other horrible manifestations of the perversions thereof (female genital mutilation, burqas, women as property, televised beheadings, et al).

I feel that the British government now fears that the Muslims will feel offended and will cause great turmoil at a time when the economy of Britain is in the grips of paralysis.

What ever happened to the “quivering upper lip” and suchlike? It looks like it has migrated south to the legs!

Feb 11, 2009 - 2:06 pm 34. Freddy:

20. Paul -Indiana: “It’s too bad that the British government is becoming a group of Dhimmi. However, Fitna is alive and well on the Internet. It’s easy to find.”

That’s until the EU decided to censor “hateful” material on the Internet too. Thank God I live in the US!

Feb 11, 2009 - 2:25 pm 35. M.Zapanacec:

Here in Chicago there was a small play put together at a neighborhood theater depicting the two teen-age boys in Iran executed for allegedly having gay sex with each other. If you are not familiar with the story, here is a link: http://www.rightsidenews.com/20080317526/culture-wars/homosexuals-get-death-penalty-in-iran.html I did not see the play, but I was able to talk with the writer. (Many of the actors, btw, were Middle Eastern-Americans, some born here in the States, others born in the Middle East, a few from Europe.) I mentioned to the writer that if this play were shown in Europe or even Canada it would be met with great controversy and outrage, and he would perhaps have to fear for his life. But here in the US, the show goes on without a blip, despite its critical depiction of Islam. There were no death threats, no riots, no censors from a frightened government. The writer admited he really didn’t think of it that way until I mentioned it. He was astounded at how much he had taken America for granted. We all do. America is truly paradise compared with the rest of the world. I suppose in some ways it’s a testiment to how free we are in the US when you don’t have to think about getting a death threat merely for producing a play. Even Michael Moore gets away with his bile unscathed. I wonder if he appreciates it? This unlimited freedom of expression we have in the US is one of the reasons I cannot take the Left seriously. They have no appreciation for the liberty they have in the States. (Oh, and as a side note, the gay American Left has actually sided with Iran in the gay executions. They claim it’s a “lie” concocted by the US government to make Iran look bad; these same people believe every word of torture coming out of Gitmo.)—Another reason why I can’t follow the Left!

Feb 11, 2009 - 2:37 pm 36. Vinny Vidivici:

Hugh #23 get it.

Can the business of Parliament now be held hostage by anyone who can scare up 10,000 people?

Feb 11, 2009 - 3:25 pm 37. Oscar the Grump:

#36
Check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97hyDRjdXCE

Feb 11, 2009 - 3:56 pm 38. Jay K.:

35. M.Zapanacec:
Thanks for that story! It is great to live in a country where you can print, publish or say anything without fearing for your life. (Let’s just hope the “Fairness Doctrine” doesn’t get passed.)

Feb 11, 2009 - 4:24 pm 39. Vinny Vidivici:

Oscar:

Thanks. I’d seen this a week or so back and was stunned — couldn’t click away even tho I wanted; had to watch the whole thing. Bet the response will be a call for more outreach officers and finger-wagging at the public not to ‘provoke’ them. Free speech for thee but not for me, eh?

Feb 11, 2009 - 4:52 pm 40. Carol Gould:

Mr Dodge’s piece is admirable. Along with Douglas Murray (Centre for Social Cohesion) and Peter Whittle (New Culture Forum) I have been campaigning against the Islamofascism creeping into the supremely free society Britain once was.
I therefore have a question for Mary jackson and Jonesy55. I agree with everything you say in your entries here. You condemn many things about Britain: the Labour spin, the ‘erosion of civil liberties,’ ‘unfair electoral system’ and other grievances against Britain. As we three obviously see eye to eye on our views of the country in which we pay tax and live as citizens, I suggest you cease and desist from calling me a ‘liar’ and ‘demented’ whenever Pajamas Media publishes one of my pieces.

Feb 11, 2009 - 6:15 pm 41. Oscar the Grump:

The British were once known for their toughness. I see that video and I don’t know if I want to laugh or cry. It’s like seeing an armored division surrounding a lone terrorist. One guy in a tank shouts down to the infantry around him, “Watch out I think he has a knife!”

Feb 11, 2009 - 6:15 pm 42. Honest Jon:

The translation from Arabic into English of Islam is, “submission.” The British weaklings have submitted not only to political correctness, but also to the fear of Islamic terrorism. Submission, in this manner is akin to appeasement. “We don’t want to hurt their feelings,” or “We can’t afford to make them mad,” won’t assist in the struggle, unless one agrees to submit to Islam and all its manifestations.

The Islamists have excelled in bringing about hypersensitivity among their adherents to anything that can even possibly be perceived as a slight in order to perpetuate their agenda. Their agenda is dominance. They achieve this dominance by arousing, exacerbating, and exaggerating perceived slights, manufatured slights, and real slights. War is common and expected within their ranks until everybody submits.

The real problem is that the vast majority, if not all of the terrorists, suicide bombers, and “freedom fighters” seem to be, indubitably, Muslim. And the secondary problem is that Judeo-Christian Western democracies refuse to tell the Muslims that the conduct of their co-religionists is improper.

A sad state of affairs.

Feb 11, 2009 - 6:28 pm 43. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Yes, its very upsetting. One has to wonder when the British public is going to say enough.

Feb 11, 2009 - 6:52 pm 44. Honest Jon:

The Brits will find their spine when the Muslims bomb Big Ben or bomb the PMs residence ore parliament. Not before hand.

They’re too intimidated. It’s too bad the British lost their derring-do vis-a-vis “The Life of Brian.”

regards

Feb 11, 2009 - 7:26 pm 45. Jonesy55:

“I therefore have a question for Mary jackson and Jonesy55. I agree with everything you say in your entries here. You condemn many things about Britain: the Labour spin, the ‘erosion of civil liberties,’ ‘unfair electoral system’ and other grievances against Britain. As we three obviously see eye to eye on our views of the country in which we pay tax and live as citizens, I suggest you cease and desist from calling me a ‘liar’ and ‘demented’ whenever Pajamas Media publishes one of my pieces.”

I don’t think i’ve ever called you demented Carol, maybe I have been too harsh on you if I have called you a liar, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are ‘mistaken’ if it makes you feel better. It wouldn’t be unheard of for a journalist to deliberately misrepresent something (ie lie) to make their point though would it?

Feb 12, 2009 - 4:55 am 46. deguello:

The nation that gave us Chamberlain,has learned nothing anf forgotten nothing!The Euros are jellyfish;turn ‘em over, they’re done!

Feb 12, 2009 - 7:27 am 47. Stephan:

If Saudi-Arabia or Iran denied him entrance, I wouldn’t have been surprised. But when has the United Kingdom changed into an Islamic Republic? I seem to have missed something here.

Feb 12, 2009 - 10:56 am 48. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Wilders has been arrested after a chaotic scene at Heathrow. He was denied entry to the UK.

Feb 12, 2009 - 11:17 am 49. akhter:

well done, lets purify Britain, keep racists out.

Feb 12, 2009 - 11:39 am 50. RedneckJD:

With the election of “The One”, I have little doubt that we shall soon see this type of censorship in the US. In the Socialism Act of ‘09, there is an attack on Christians, banning any use of the funds for religious schools. We will have “human rights” courts such as exist in Canada, and to which Mark Steyn was subjected. We already see speech codes at public universities, and the denigration of Christian beliefs everywhere. If good people such as Rick Warren can be targeted for the “crime” of supporting a proposition in Calif., then none of us is safe.

Feb 12, 2009 - 12:25 pm 51. Leatherneck:

Islam is a death cult, and Briton is being run by fools. Wilders can not be racist, because Islam is not a race.

ROPMA!

Feb 12, 2009 - 1:59 pm 52. Andrew Ian Dodge:

Well if they are banning racists then Lord Ahmed should be booted out sharpish. Oh yeah and one more thing…to be anti-Islam is not racist as its not a race but a religion.

Feb 12, 2009 - 2:47 pm 53. mhr:

How much longer does the US have before what happened to Wilders happens here? Most US newspapers refused to carry the Danish cartoons that upset muslims a few years ago. That was only the first step. Carrying the banner for islamists in this campaign are US liberals, who take every opportunity they can to demonstrate their contempt for all things Christian. Their pro-islamic stance is merely a reflexion of their anti-Christian position.

Feb 12, 2009 - 3:04 pm 54. Mario Sanchez:

53. mhr:

Correction, mhr, the left’s pro-Islamic stance is a reflection of its anti-American stance. As the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. When feminists and homosexuals in the West will defend gay-killing, women-killing Muslim religious fanatics, you know that anti-Americanism has reached a level of hysteria the world has never seen. Why do these people have such a chronic, pathological hatred for a nation in which they prosper so much and live so freely, a nation that gave us Gay Pride Parades and Betty Freidan? I have no idea. I suppose we could write volumes on the mental illness. In a nutshell, my theory is, the Left resents the United States for basically accomplishing under the free-market capitalist system all that they wanted: egalitarianism. Despite all the stereotypes about the United States being the “world’s most racist, unjust society,” (which of course is spread by the Left), it is in reality the world’s most just and equal society.

Feb 12, 2009 - 4:00 pm 55. Legard:

Farewell, Britain, such a sad fall for you. And for once, I’m feeling a lot of admiration for the stalwart Dutch, not just Wilders (who’s endured death threats and an inability to return home as a result of his brave stands) but all the ordinary Dutch who are standing up for him.

You know, back in my world history class many moons ago, I read about how the Dutch twice defeated the British navy (or I guess, technically defeated the English navy as it wasn’t yet Britain) in successive Anglo-Dutch Wars in the late 1600’s, then essentially conquered Britain itself in 1688 (when William of Orange joined with anti-royal factions and took the English throne). Now, at the time of course, England’s Royal Navy wasn’t yet the one dominating the seas as they would be after Nelson whipped the French at Trafalgar, but still– the way that Dutch admiral Michael de Ruyter beat the English fleet in essentially British waters, made me recognize that those Dutch must be some very tough, stout-hearted people ( http://forums.skadi.net/archive/index.php/t-98215.html and http://www.nnp.org/vtour/xpages/anglodutchwars.html if anyone’s interested).

Recent events are only confirming this. Even the Dutch who don’t like Geert Wilders are standing by him here, and the Dutch (and Belgian Flemish) heart seems to beat strong and courageously. Hopefully there are some locales in the West that are standing up to dhimmification, seems like Denmark and a few Alpen countries have been electing nationalist parties. Maybe even the Dutch are getting tougher (even the French have been moving in that direction though in their usual scatterbrained manner). But on the whole, seems like dhimmification is still proceeding apace in most places, particularly in Britain itself.

Feb 12, 2009 - 4:49 pm 56. Legard:

And the sad thing is, the constitution of the British population has changed so much, that all 3 major parties in Britain toe the same line. There is now virtually no representation for Britons on the ground, and the FPTP election system makes it extremely difficult for smaller parties to get a foothold.

Feb 12, 2009 - 4:53 pm 57. Brett_McS:

Those looking to the loss of the next election should note the Conservative Party’s brave stance on this issue: “No comment”. It’s the Homer Simpson battle cry: “Default! Default!”

Feb 12, 2009 - 7:46 pm 58. Smorgasbord:

Why wasn’t the Islamic member of Parliament arrested when he said something about having thousands of Islamics being violent if Wilders is allowed in England. If threatening to start a riot isn’t a crime in England, it should be. The Islamics now know how to get what they want in England: Threaten violence. Their way of life.

Feb 13, 2009 - 8:22 am 59. deguello:

AKHTER: is that Arabic for cretin?

Feb 13, 2009 - 10:37 am 60. Amerian Patriot:

I don’t have much concern for Britain, and I don’t think what happens there has any baring in the US, depsite what the doomsayers may think. Horrible ideas from Europe never cross the Atlantic, at least not in populist numbers. Good ideas do, such as the Enlightenment, which the US only improved upon. Europe’s habit of coming up with more awful ideas than good–fascism, communism, marxism, socialism, the Spice Girls–is a good reason why the US is somewhat insulated. It’s not like the US has much to see outward.

Feb 13, 2009 - 3:42 pm 61. gordon brown pm:

Ive got no axe to grind with Mr Wilders.well i just have to appease Lord Ahmed or its at least 10,000 votes lost at my next doomed election. And im bloody certain i dont want to have my head hacked off. Im sure you understand. Anyway got to go…Late for prayers at the mosque
Best regards
Gordy

Feb 15, 2009 - 3:08 am 62. GWdefender:

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state. (Thomas Jefferson)

Don’t forGeert Wilders!
Stop talking, start acting.
Isn’t Geert’s freedom worth a stamp?

If Geert Wilders falls, then Freedom of speech is dead in Europe. We are launching an extensive International Action SITA including two possible texts ; one comparing Wilders and Winston Churchill and another Wilders and Charlie Chaplin:

http://sitamnesty.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/i-support-democrat-geert-winston-wilders-against-islamic-fascism-and-its-dhimmis

http://sitamnesty.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/i-support-democrat-geert-charlie-wilders-against-islamic-fascism

To support Geert Wilders and our dearly acquired freedoms please participate to the 2 suggested actions and transmit this message to your friends owners of a website in order they publish it.

An other way to support Geert Wilders is to give some money. To donate: http://www.geertwilders.nl

Feb 23, 2009 - 3:12 am

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