George W. Bush’s Legacy: Moral Vision
He never let Americans forget there is evil in this world and that their nation has a unique calling to fight it.
The Wall Street Journal’s latest poll reports a 27 percent approval rating for President George W. Bush in his last week in office. According to the article, this is “the lowest for any departing chief executive except Richard Nixon, who was forced to resign amid the Watergate scandal.” Gallup’s final survey on Bush’s public backing is just slightly better, with 34 percent of Americans approving of “the overall job George W. Bush is doing as president.”
It’s an iron law of politics that these end-of-term numbers will provide confirmation for those bloggers, pundits, and scholars determined to condemn the Bush administration as the worst in American history.
For average Americans, it’s most likely that folks are simply tired of long and costly wars, fearful of economic uncertainty, and hopeful for vigorous leadership in the new Democratic era. Yet for partisans of the hardline left — those implacably opposed to the GOP administration and its ideology — the reasons for joy in the final poll numbers are many: the alleged “stolen” election of 2000; the post-9/11 terrorist “fearmongering” and the “shredding” of constitutional guarantees on civil liberties; the “illegal” war in Iraq, based on “false pretenses” of Iraqi WMD, and evil “neocon” designs for neo-imperial domination of the Middle East; and the “reign of torture” that has allegedly destroyed America’s moral standing around the world.
Amid all of this, it’s naturally difficult to discern a triumphant legacy for the Bush administration, especially with the immediacy and euphoria surrounding the Democratic transition in Washington. But the truth is that the George W. Bush presidency will likely be seen in time as one of the greatest in American history, on par with the what historians call the “near-great” category of presidencies such as Theodore Roosevelt’s or Harry Truman’s.
President Bush is a leader of uncommon moral vision and clarity of national purpose.
On September 20th, 2001, speaking before a Joint Session of Congress, the president articulated his vision of America’s purpose in combating the evil of Islamist fanaticism: “The advance of human freedom — the great achievement of our time, and the great hope of every time — now depends on us.” It has been this unflinching belief in America’s mission of defending universal right and justice in the world that has animated the Bush administration’s agenda in the post-9/11 world.
In his 2002 commencement speech to the United States Military Academy at West Point, Bush declared that “Our nation’s cause has always been larger than our nation’s defense. We fight, as we always fight, for a just peace — a peace that favors human liberty.” In his second inaugural address, Bush announced: “We go forward with complete confidence in the eventual triumph of freedom. … We have confidence because freedom is the permanent hope of mankind, the hunger in dark places, the longing of the soul.”
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Donald Kent Douglas is an associate professor of Political Science teaching in Southern California.
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1. Tantor:“President Bush is a leader of uncommon moral vision and clarity of national purpose”
Like lying to the world to invade Irak? Ah Ah Ah! very funny! he leaves the usa as a huge mess! indeed, we’ll miss him cause he’s so pathetically funny
Jan 19, 2009 - 1:37 am 2. MLIC:I’m sorry…but he’s got to go down as the worst President in the history of the United States!!!
http://mylifeiscrap.com
Jan 19, 2009 - 2:09 am 3. kiwikit:Pity the poor people above who obviously are victims of TV views. Anyone who cares about our country and the safety of our fellow citizens, has to agree that few could have withstood the arrows and slurs of the media who hate Bush’s steadfastness, morality, and most of all his faith. Bush is a martyr to them and his being one has make our world safer. I’ll be grateful to him as long as I live and consider him to have been the President who did the most for me, personally. As for the economy, when the Democrats took over in 2007, it was never better. Their policy to spend every living moment trying to get more bribes and earmarks and what little is left, trying to betray their President, makes me very depressed about how they’re going to
Jan 19, 2009 - 3:30 am 4. Amit:‘fix’ it. They don’t know how to do anything but spend and the details of the house
$850 trillion on things like NEA for the arts show that they’re not interested in learning how to strengthen the economy, either. I’m not very impressed by what they’ve done so far and am afraid they’re trying to another FDR Depression, just to strengthen their power base of minorities, illegals, and ill-educated.
Thank you President Bush have a wonderful life.
Well, here’s an objective article for a change!
Jan 19, 2009 - 3:34 am 5. catullus13:I totally agree that history will judge President Bush fairly, and many of his unattributed successes will be suitably amplified and honored to the next generations of Americans as well as the world at large. Thank you, President Bush, and wish you good luck!
The delusional mindset continues. By any standard, even the extremely low one of modern conservatism, the Bush presidency was a catastrophe for this nation. All the right-wing spin on his “legacy” won’t change that.
Jan 19, 2009 - 3:58 am 6. Jbl:“Like lying to the world to invade Irak? Ah Ah Ah! very funny! he leaves the usa as a huge mess! indeed, we’ll miss him cause he’s so pathetically funny…”
You’re not really going to expose yourself as being too stupid to know the difference between “lying” and “believing all the same intelligence everyone else believed since Clinton said Saddam had WMD in 1998, and all the Democrats and other nations concurred and Hillary and John Kerry and Ted Kennedy SAID “yes, we have to do this because Saddam has WMD” are you?
Bush was imperfect, but I can’t think of a stupider charge to make than to say he “lied” us into Iraq. We’d been told from 1998 on that Saddam had WMD; he’d used it on his own people. After 9/11 it would have been unthinkable for any president NOT to do what Bush did.
I’ll go further. I’ll suggest that if Clinton or any Democrat did half of what Bush did; liberating Iraq, getting Libya to give up its WMD, setting back the Taliban, helping Kosovo and Georgia, doing MORE FOR AFRICA THAN ANY AMERICAN PRESIDENT, plus keeping (until just these six months) unemployment at historic lows and the economy growing at between 2-3% you’d be CALLING FOR HIS HEAD ON MT. RUSHMORE.
Bush has been an imperfect president and I am appalled that he went along with these bailouts that Pelosi, Reid and the rest insisted we needed – but he did a damn fine job in a thankless age.
And please…unless you lived through Jimmy Carter, with his 11% unemployment, his gas lines, his “malaise” his inability to release the hostages in Iran and oh yeah, 17% mortgages, you can’t say a word about Bush.
But I get it; it’s just EASIER to bash Bush than to actually think.
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:23 am 7. Jbl:Idiots.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/18/IN0B159A69.DTL
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:29 am 8. Walt:In trying to be objective in all things, it is exceedingly difficult to listen to the ignorant left express what they have been spoon-fed. Like the two individuals writing before me (Tantor & MLIC), one writes about “lying to the world to invade Irak”, and the other one does the “worst President” thing.
Neither writer can back up what they say intellectually, factually, or with the application of common sense – just continuous mouthings of major BS.
I see and hear this type of mass ignorance every day – one would think that the people responsible for these utterings would be embarassed when they are called on it and shown to be wrong/biased/intellectually bankrupt. But no, when challanged their response is more than likely a weak “what ever” – hoping you will go away, take your facts with you and go pick on some other hapless liberal/progressive/socialist/democrat (it is so hard to pick the correct synonym).
And yes MLIC, I’m sure your life is crap. Try to educate yourself, think critically, think for yourself and don’t follow the pack – you might be surprised how your life will improve – especially your self-respect.
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:31 am 9. syn:“Pity the poor people above who obviously are victims of TV views”
I agree; it is rather tragic that half this country is living a Hollywood-scripted life with no foundation in reality.
I feel sorry for the TV People because real-life reality is about to snap them out of their illusion.
I am so grateful President Bush read books instead joining the TV People.
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:33 am 10. Jbl:The proof that George W. Bush was a good president with enormous vision is simply this.
Obama is basically following Bush’s lead. Obama = Bush III
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTYxZGU4ZTI4MDg0M2Q3YmI1NGJiMmUyMzNlOTE3ZDc=
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:39 am 11. 888:Bush is all about doing what’s right for America and her allies. Obama is all about Show, Elitism, Double Standard, Hypocrisy and Hiding Behind his Background including His True Citizenship.
Here’s a fair and balanced article from economist, Thomas Sowell, about Bush’s legacy: http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/tsowell/2009/ts_01171.shtml
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:53 am 12. SaraforAmerica:Bush wishes he could have pushed through amnesty, even though most of the country was against it. He kept the borders open, and jailed good and honest people who tried to defend it.
I agree he had a moral vision, but his vision was so poorly projected and haphazard at times (borders, spending, refusing to point fingers at Frank, Dodd, et al) we now have a socialist running the country. So, so much for that.
Jan 19, 2009 - 6:11 am 13. Tantor:anyway, good luck to america, she’ll need it badly I think
Jan 19, 2009 - 6:22 am 14. Jim Baker:Historians should judge President Bush more fairly than the media do, but I don’t know whether they will. There are very few writers of history, these days, who are not too inclined toward a present day political agenda. Historians are supposed to specialize in adapting their narrative to the prevailing social, political and economic conditions of the historical subject. I don’t think many of today’s historians have any ability in that area, just as journalists seem less able to do the work required to find and present the facts in the present. In the rush to get it published and meet a deadline, truth suffers.
Jan 19, 2009 - 6:56 am 15. Jerry Kelly:Liar, torturer, bully, tyrant, architect of an unprovoked war of aggression, murderer of our own troops, war criminal who slaughtered more Iraqi women and children than Saddam Hussein ever did, enemy of the rule of law, dismantler of the Bill of Rights, lead conspirator in subversion of the Constitution, traitor to the Constitution and the Republic engendered by the Constitution.
You call that greatness? We executed Japanese and Germans after WWII for less. God grant us trial and punishment to the full extent of the law for this enemy of humanity.
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:54 am 16. Bea:If Bush was that great, what are all these people doing in Washington right now? And why didn’t they come for GW Bush when he said goodbye last week?
Is that all because these people are brainwashed by the left wing press or is it because Bush has failed to inspire them, give them hope, and good leadership?
Yes, history will judge him but the outcome of the election on the 4th of november was the first judgement made by the people of the USA.
Jan 19, 2009 - 8:47 am 17. nanggroe:Bush is the worst president of US ever. And because of him, most of the world hate US, CIA report said US dominity will down in next 25 year. I hope so.. bye2 great Nation.
Jan 19, 2009 - 9:01 am 18. mindi:He is a moron. Yes, we have had troubles before and presidents that did not do what should have been done. However, we have never had a person in such power be the stupidest creature as well. Someone mentioned that no one bothered to see Bush off as he leaves office, due to fact that people are left void, and uninspired by him. Absolutely. The man is an imbecil. NO charisma, grace, poise nor wit. Thanks to all those who voted for him the 2nd term.. we fell harder faster…
Jan 19, 2009 - 9:51 am 19. SimplySick:iinMrMr. Bush
Jan 19, 2009 - 9:53 am 20. Bilgeman:Carter’s Legacy…Khomeini’s Islamic Republic of Iran and Sandinista Nicaragua.
Reagan’s Legacy…A democratic Nicaragua, a defeated Soviet Union, and a cowed Libya.
Bush 41’s Legacy…a liberated democratic Panama a liberated Kuwait, and unfinished business with Sadaam Hussein,(when he listened to the fears of the anti-war Left of the day).
Clinton’s Legacy…An Islamist failed state in Somalia, an unnecessary air adventure over Kosovo when the Europeans wouldn’t clean up their OWN backyard; a resurgent Sadaam Hussein, Chavez’s Venezuela…and 9/11.
Bush 43’s Legacy…a nascent democracy in Iraq, a liberated Afghanistan also in the infancy of its democracy; a Libya that eschewed it’s WMD program, and an Al-Qaeda that consists of Saudi-subsidized cave and basement-dwellers posting on Islamic websites hoping that some dullards somewhere will take action on their behalf.
W has made his mistakes, but on the whole, he’s done right by us…and certainly a damned sight better than many of us warranted.
Those who carp about shredding the Constitution…are you posting from a prison or a concentration camp?
No?
Then kindly STFU.
Jan 19, 2009 - 10:10 am 21. Gary Thorington:As I recall from reading history Abe Lincoln and Harry Truman were battered with very low opinions. In 1864 The democrats nominated a man that would let the Confederacy proceed with their independence. Lincoln at the time was pretty well hated. HST was also hated at the end of his term because of the Korean war and thanks to Truman South Korea is not communist. As for voting for Bush in the second term, it was difficult to vote for Kerry because he refused to say on how he or the democrats would handle Iraq and on several websites when asked to Bush haters none had any idea on what Kerry was going to do. With Kerry’s indecision Bush won the election. It seems to democrats that Bush wasn’t liberal enough and to conservatives he wasn’t conservative enough but most presidents govern from the middle. I can’t imagine BO letting Iraq return to a Islamic state similar to Iran but nothing will shock me.
Jan 19, 2009 - 10:58 am 22. Ran:“He never let Americans forget there is evil in this world and that their nation has a unique calling to fight it.”
Mr. Douglas… and if one did, one had one’s sentence commuted. [Just ask Ramos and Campeon.] Pardon me if I don’t harbor a lot of warm ‘n fuzzy’s for the outgoing President or the majority of his Cabinet. I’ll give him credit only where it’s due. W’s “compassionate conservatism” was, in the end, neither. [Though in the end it certainly was.]
The utter wreckage of the Republican Party at the hands of Bush and Rove and their cheerleaders on conservatism’s Left will long be remembered.
Jan 19, 2009 - 12:15 pm 23. EricTheRed:The author, and commentors like 888, jbl, and Bilgeman are exactly right on the money. Tantor, Jerry Kelly, etc., for eight your brains have been fed nothing but left-wing hate that you’ve clearly forgotten how to think. And mindi, if you’re going to call someone an imbecile, spell it right at least.
http://vocalminority.typepad.com
Jan 19, 2009 - 12:35 pm 24. LynnS:The Jewish Republican’s Web Sanctuary
#1 #2 #5 #15 #16 #17 are all examples of those who, when they tell you that you are crazy, it is a sure sign that you are sane.
#14 Jim Baker: I agree with you and it is worrying that modern historians if they follow the example of our modern journalists, truth will indeed suffer.
Jan 19, 2009 - 12:39 pm 25. Danny Lemieux:President G.W. Bush is a rock that stood fast for eight years amid crashing waves of stupid, self-destructive little people that debased themselves in an unparalleled tempest of small-minded hate. He moves on. Can they?
Jan 19, 2009 - 1:25 pm 26. oscar hernandez:What a pathetic article. The author of this article and the people that support bush (all of them Americans of course) are craving for some sense that justifiy the non-sense of Bush wars. All the bush supporters are like characters of the “Emperor`s new clothes”. Praising bush and believing that Bush is going to have a place in history of something more than worst case of nepotism in history is lame.
Here in Mexico, and all around the world, all of us have one question:
How is he going to sleep every night after his hands are soaked in so much blood. That is his legacy. Period.
Jan 19, 2009 - 1:29 pm 27. jose:Felicidades por su victoria historica, y mucha suerte en este su primer mandato.
Jan 19, 2009 - 1:37 pm 28. Jbl:http://www.x0101.com
“Is that all because these people are brainwashed by the left wing press or is it because Bush has failed to inspire them, give them hope, and good leadership?”
It’s because they’ve been brainwashed by the left. Willfully.
Jan 19, 2009 - 1:37 pm 29. JohnRJ08:Even if Iraq suddenly becomes the Garden Spot of the world and a showcase for democracy in the Middle East, it will not alter the irresponsibility of George Bush’s decisions and horrific mistakes in regard to that situation. If his actions in Iraq somehow stumble in the right direction and that country manages to heal itself in the next fifty years, it will certainly NOT be because of his foresight and leadership. From the very beginning, when Bush ignored Richard Clark’s warnings about a terrorist attack before September 11th, until he allowed his incompetent appointees to oversee the most severe economic collapse since the Great Depression, George W. Bush has managed to be the worst president in the history of the republic. From Paul Bremmer, to Harriet Meyers, to Michael Brown and Henry M. Paulson Jr., George W. Bush insisted on appointing second-raters to incredibly important positions within government. Next to Saddam Hussein, Paul Bremmer is probably responsible for most of the deaths in Iraq since the invasion. And what about Alberto Gonzales, who has done more during his tenure to damage the U.S. Constitution than any previous Attorney General. George W. Bush didn’t make a mess of things all by himself. He had a lot of help from the morons he insisted on appointing.
Jan 19, 2009 - 2:06 pm 30. coloradonative:The G.O.P. kool-aid is a long lasting brew…once you take a few sips you are hooked for life….always amazing how much they are willing to look backwards and toss as much blame on Jimmy “the cowardly lion” Carter and
Jan 19, 2009 - 2:10 pm 31. Bilgeman:Bill “the blue dress” Clinton… neither were perfect and I have never heard anyone claim differently, but Georgie and DICK are in a class unto themselves… profiteering for big oil… we will never know how many billions went into their offshore accounts…DICK is the puppetmaster…we put Martha Stewart behind bars for much less…. I hope the new Atty. Gen. will draw and quarter them and hang the pieces for the magpies and crows…
#30 coloradonative:
“always amazing how much they are willing to look backwards and toss as much blame on Jimmy “the cowardly lion” Carter and
Bill “the blue dress” Clinton…”
Gee, it must be nice in your rosy little world, but Iran’s nookyoolar program and the Al Qaeda brand of mega-terrorism is as historic as today’s headlines.
And they’re likely to resurface often in our future.
That’s what “legacy” means, ace.
Funny, though…not a word fro your soup-cooler about Nicaragua, Panama and Libya…especially Libya.
You folks just CAN’T give Dubya ANY credit whatsoever, can you?
(It’s why we love you all so.)
Jan 19, 2009 - 2:53 pm 32. Word to the wise:Hey Oscar: Up here in the USA, most of us are wondering how we soon can get those fellow “citizens” of yours that are here illegally back into your 5th rate country. Oh, and how soon we are going to seal off the borders to that rat hole.
Speaking of which, for a person that lives in a country run by violent drug lords, you have a lot of nerve piping up about blood on anyone’s hands.
But then you consider taking out a ruthless killer like Saddam and freeing some 50 million people to be butchery. You deserve your coming overlords. Try those lefty talking points with them.
If there was ever an example of why we need a good border fence it is filth like you.
Jan 19, 2009 - 3:35 pm 33. Bilgeman:#26 oscar:
“Here in Mexico, and all around the world, all of us have one question”
We don’t really CARE.
Funny that a self-professed Mexican is dumping on “W”, and here he tried so hard to kiss your behinds.
One of his worst mistakes, frankly.
I hope Obama moves to the Center enough to seal the borders and start the round-ups and deportations of illegal immigrants.
You got a spare room, Oscar? You might be getting a lodger…
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:05 pm 34. Shef Rogers:When I think of evil, I think of Texas Gov. G.W. Bush doing a would-be comical imitation of a woman begging for her life, as he refused to commute her death sentence.
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:36 pm 35. Richard:The problem with Bush’s moral compass is that he seems quite willing to sacrifice it to the god of expediency when it comes to domestic issues. If you watch his final press conference he states flat out that when Henry Paulson came to him with a prediction of “another depression”, he willingly jettisoned his economic principles of free markets and economic liberty. Hell, anyone can say that they are for free markets and economic freedom when the economy is doing well. Only a man of character stands up for those principles when everyone around him is urging him to write a fat check from the treasury. Bush seems to “get it” when it comes to making a principled stand against foreign terrorism, yet manages to roll over every single time and be the democrat’s bitch when it comes to domestic policy. Republicans are supposed to know better!
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:51 pm 36. Pat J:A toast. “To George Bush, Dick Cheney and all the rest. May they have many years ahead of them.”
Hopefully many years paying for the crimes they committed against America and humanity.
Jan 19, 2009 - 4:51 pm 37. Thom Fisher:Bush will be known as the Greatest President!
Jan 19, 2009 - 5:28 pm 38. bod more:Yes. I’m not kidding. A President is put into office to execute to his abilities the objectives of the Party that put him there. I cannot think of a single major Republican Policy that Bush did not deliver on, all for the benefit of the richest and us folks working for big corporations.
- Tax breaks for the richest. Done.
- Loosen all oversite of corporations. Done.
- Eliminate any oversight of Wall Street. Done.
- Virtually reduce prosecution of white collar crime. Done.
- Prove to America that “government doesn’t work.” Done. (Katrina)
- Fill the government payroll with employees who wear uniforms, carry guns and spy on people (Homeland Security)
- Destroy the budget so no additional services can be offered. Done.
- Start a war. Done.
- Start another war. Done. (Reagan only did Granada, Nicaraqua, El Salvador and those little bannana republic wars.)
- Drive up unemployment to 7.6% (higher than Reagan drove it up!)
- Bring religion into running our country, instead of people who actually know how to do things properly. Done.
- make the rich much richer and everyone else poorer.
- create $1.5 Trillion deficit, from a surplus he got. (Reagan only created a $0.6Trillion deficit)
- stack the supreme court with two right-wing zealots. (Reagan only got one right winger in, and some flaky moderate)
All of these are Republican policies. He only screwed up by letting the stock market plunge, wiping out everyone’s savings. But he had no control over that. just bad luck.
yes, Most Effective President Ever. Better than Reagan. Better than Lincol. Better than Washington. No other president was nearly so successful in driving his party’s policies. His only mistake, not getting a third term and driving them even further!!!
Bush had “moral vision”? Where the heck has this guy been for the past 8 years?? Bush will be lucky if he doesn’t end up in the dock at the World Court at the Hague, charged with war crimes, along with his fellow criminals Cheney and Rumsfeld.
Jan 19, 2009 - 5:34 pm 39. bod more:The author of this article, Donald Kent Douglas, is an Orange County, Ca. right wing nut-job. Follow the link at the head of this article if you want a good laugh. To label him as “conservative” is just plain inadequate. He is waaaa-a-ay out there on the fringe.
Jan 19, 2009 - 5:45 pm 40. oscar hernandez:Bilgeman and word to the wise:
It is so easy for you guys to show your xenophobia instead of making a point or defend Bush.
You two are just ranting, instead of writing something that defines why you support Bush.
Yes I am Mexican, and you know I work for an outsourcing company in Mexico. So please be mad at me because I am stealing a job for the US
And in order to argue with you I have to write in English since you can only convey your thoughts in that language. And so the filth is inside of you guys and there is not a border for that
Jan 19, 2009 - 6:06 pm 41. Pat J:38. bod more:
Jan 19, 2009 - 6:30 pm 42. Terence Chin:———–
Yeah I was wondering at which Junior College he was teaching. What’s he going to tell his students when Dubya ends up at the Hague?
Please allow me, a non-American and an Asian living in Asia, to express my views about your President Bush.
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:37 pm 43. Dave:About Saddam’s WMD. Please put yourself in Bush’s shoes. As President, you see people coming in, taking advantage of America’s largesse and system, and then bringing down the WTC and trying to bring down the Pentagon and so on. Should he just sit still, do nothing and say that “we should look at the root cause” as many are wont to do? He was the President. It was incumbent on him to bring those people to book. The Talibans in Afghanistan openly admitted their role and were (and are) training more of these suicide missions, for it is said in their books, that fire and brimstone shall rain down on ‘their’enemies. Hence the war in Afghanistan. If not for that war, many more Americans will die on American soil itself. Bush took the war to them… to thwart them from bringing the war to America. So far, it had worked… but not for long if the new President chooses to dismantle the infrastructure set up by the Homeland Security up till now.
Also it was no secret that Saddam himself spoke of his WND. Intelligence (though now seen as faulty) supplied to Bush also indicated as much. Saddam himself acted to hinder the UN officials at every turn leading to very strong suspicion of his WMD. Then his threat of lending a helping hand to America’s enemies. So what is Bush to do? Should the President of America just sit by and wait for more confirmation like another 911 attack before acting?
I watched a show in Asia (yes, we do get snippets of American TV programmes) where a gathering of actors from Hollywood vehemently insisted that terrorism doesn’t exist, that it was something created by Bush to cow fellow Americans. 911 was explained away as occurring due to hatred for Bush, notwithstanding the fact that 911 had been planned to take place during Clinton’s presidency but those involved couldn’t get into the flying schools in time.
Many of us in Asia live in peace and security because of America. We spend less on arms and external security because the American Pacific Fleet is always nearby. We have benefited from America’s global policy though many prefer not to admit it for reasons of pride and misplaced patriotism.
To me and my friends, Bush is a great President. The earnestness and humility with which he faced criticisms and brick-bats is admirable. We do the same to our Prime Minister and we would conveniently ‘disappear’.
To many here, Bush had honestly tried to defend America, Americans and American interests. Our only surprise is that the majority of Americans do not seem to realize that.
Figured this article would bring out the left loon haters and I was right. Vicious suckers.
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:45 pm 44. David S:Moral Vision?
I guess his moral vision is blind to the caskets arriving regularly from Iraq?
Moral vision is what Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. demonstrated. A deep understanding of the power of nonviolence and education. Recognizing that our humanity demands that we support one another, for the good of all.
Waging a war of choice is anathema to anyone with moral vision. Bush is a confessed war criminal.
GWB’s legacy is eight years of errors, and a nation impoverished in morality, money and prestige.
The blind leading the blind.
Peace
DS
Jan 19, 2009 - 8:59 pm 45. IB42:Why not just leave the whole subject of Bush, good or bad, alone? It’s over. It was what it was. He has had to face jibes and insults galore, and will live with the final fact of slinking out of Washington without the fanfare an exiting leader usually receives. Let’s let it rest now. As I said, it’s over, people!
Jan 20, 2009 - 1:22 am 46. vivo:26. oscar hernandez:
“How is he going to sleep every night after his hands are soaked in so much blood. That is his legacy. Period.”
True but sad.
Jan 20, 2009 - 3:35 am 47. vivo:33. Bilgeman:
“#26 oscar:
“Here in Mexico, and all around the world, all of us have one question”
We don’t really CARE.”
Oscar: Obama won because of people like Bilgeman. The rest of the Country cares.
Jan 20, 2009 - 3:40 am 48. vivo:40. oscar hernandez:
Me alegro que haya gente en tu país que piensan como usted.
Jan 20, 2009 - 3:46 am 49. AI:I suppose that if one bases his or her vote on whether Bush was good or bad solely on what’s presented on the 24/7 news cycle then we were always going to know any poll results in advance. The passage of time and with it, the shift in media focus away from Bush will be conducive to impartial analysis by commenters, reporters, reviewers and general folk without the usual ‘pink noise’ distraction put forward by knee jerk elites from both ends of the Atlantic. As such, history will be fairer to GWB.
Jan 20, 2009 - 4:28 am 50. Trish:Thank you Donald, for saying farewell to a good and decent man, and a human President, (not a Saviour or King) who has been judged by liberals who hate him for no other valid reason than their hatred of conservativeness, and not by what good he has done.
Jan 20, 2009 - 5:30 am 51. narciso:Thank you for expressing the gratitude that many of us feel towards him. I thank him for keeping us safe. And I wish George W and his family well!
“De verdad vivo, de vivo no tienes nada, eres Latino, porque esas zandeces son ridiculas”
For those without a copy of the home game, I asked Vivo, really, in addition I suggested dead is closer to live as his handle, for spouting such ridiculous stupidities. On the wider point, the President’s deliberations on why he acted they way he did, will eventually clear up some of the lies andmisrepresentations we see espoused here today. Plus the inevitable misteps of this upcoming administration, unless they have a shorter learning curve. The media will still continue to lie and misrepresent things, that’s how we got to this point in the first place.
Jan 20, 2009 - 6:15 am 52. Maverick:Just to get the record straight concerning every President this country has had, has made mistakes. No President went from being sworn in, to the end of their Presidency without making mistakes. There are some who can’t let President Bush ride off into the sunset without coming out with their list of when and where President Bush went wrong and all the mistakes he’s made. Give it a rest. There’s a time and place for everything. Bashing the President at the end of his Presidency is not the time and place. For those who don’t understand, it’s call courtesy for serving this country. President Bush deserves that much for the safety and security he’s provided since 9/11. It’s important to point out, that not only Republicans and Conservatives voted for President Bush a second time. President Bush’s critics also voted for him to serve a second term. They wanted their safety and security also and eat their cake too. President Bush allowed every American to go about their daily lives conducting business as usual, without being effected by the war on terrorism. Only the members of the troops suffered hardship. Even the Democrats, as much as they huff and puff about impeaching President Bush because they said he was abusing his authority, voted to keep President Bush in office for a second term. If signing statements and executive orders were such a big deal to the Democrats they wouldn’t have let any war interfere with their agenda. If President Bush’s critics are having such a hard time dealing with this country President Bush has left us. Remember one thing, this isn’t the country the terrorist wanted to give us. The country the terrorist wanted to give us included car bombs, suicide bombers, and kidnappings in protest to the war in Iraq. International opinion also wanted us to suffer like they have at the hands of Muslims extremists in their countries. Instead, we have a country free of what other countries are going through because of President Bush.
Jan 20, 2009 - 6:32 am 53. Armand:George W. Bush is a decent a moral human being. And because of this the left hates him. It would rather celebrate Ted Kennedy a misogynistic drunkard who left a woman to drown in a car because he didn’t want to take a DUI rap. Thats says everything you will ever need to know about the liberals in America.
Jan 20, 2009 - 8:11 am 54. fred:The only thing that Marxists believe is evil is capitalism. That is why, in their dualistic mindset, they, like Muslims, hold to an “ethics of expediency.” Both are totalitarian swine who hold that only their true believers are virtuous and the rest are damned.
From Muhammad to Rousseau and Robespierre, from Marx to Gramsci, and through all the despots of our age: Mussolini, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho, Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez. To the NKVD, KGB, FSB, STASI, and on to whatever future permutations they will take – All of these are manifestations of evil, even if they do not encapsulate all of it.
Like all Christians, President Bush believed what we all do: that inside every one of us are the effects of, the history of, and the tendency for sin. Each one of us has to struggle against it. President Bush named “evil” that which the Left finds excuses for or even elevates to the virtue of revolutionary struggle.
Jan 20, 2009 - 9:28 am 55. Craig:Terence Chin. Thank you for writing. There are many of us who agree with you.
Jan 20, 2009 - 10:55 am 56. scott:To those who pretend to have feelings toward those in uniform, KISS OFF!
I knew well what I was getting into when I took my oath to defend the United States from its enemies.
To you, I say… enlist. Do a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan. Get off your lazy, self-righteous, leftist ass, and start giving a damn about someone other than yourself.
Once again, I enlisted to defend my country. That includes you.
Yes, GW has made mistakes. So has every President before him.
But, until recently (and none of this recent stuff being his fault), the country was doing quite well.
I only fault him for not being able to speak very well publicly. I’ve had to remind myself between chuckles on Letterman that Bush led well, Bush meant well the very few times he didn’t lead well, but Bush didn’t speak very well.
Jan 20, 2009 - 2:13 pm 57. David S:@56
Iraq is not your country. Who are you defending? And what from?
Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate your willingness to serve, but there is something fishy with your logic.
DS
Jan 20, 2009 - 2:23 pm 58. Bilgeman:#47 vivo:
“Oscar: Obama won because of people like Bilgeman. The rest of the Country cares.”
That doesn’t even make sense.
Obama won because of people like you, a person who kisses these foreigners’ asses.
My choice in the general was Bob Barr, though Palin had a lot of potential.
The rest of the country cares…about some Mexican’s opinion of who our President is?
How absurd! You should be barred from voting and be required to register as an agent of a foreign power for making such an asinine statement.
Tell me, ace…do you think Oscar cares one bit what I thoughtof Vicente Fox?
Puh-leeze!
Jan 20, 2009 - 3:12 pm 59. tim:the only legacy this retard deserves is a trial convicting him of war crimes for his actions in iraq
Jan 20, 2009 - 3:14 pm 60. David S:@58
BM,
Right wing zealots were a huge help to Obama. They made the choice between hope and fear quite stark. Thanks for the assist!
Peace.
DS
Jan 20, 2009 - 4:18 pm 61. Bilgeman:#60 David S.:
“Right wing zealots were a huge help to Obama. They made the choice between hope and fear quite stark. Thanks for the assist!”
Really, all diatribe aside, do you think that foreigners’ opinions of our President is a factor that should be considered when casting a vote?
I well recall the Limey newspaper’s headline after the 2004 general:
“How Could (umpteen million) people be so DUMB?”
It read, under a picture of W.
If people are going to vote against or hold an opinion on a candidate because the foreigners,(or their media), don’t like him, then maybe they should rethink their country of residence and their citizenship.
This chap Oscar, for all we know, might have been an illegal alien deported during the Bush Administration…is this an unbiased source?
The American government is,(at least in theory), the servant of American citizens…and NO ONE else.
If that’s what you call being a “Right wing zealot”, then so be it.
I call it being an American.
Jan 20, 2009 - 8:19 pm 62. vivo:We have enough a**hole opinions here,(about 250 million voting age, last I checked). We don’t really need, and nor should we entertain others, who do not necessarily have our best interests at heart.
58. Bilgeman:
“Oscar: Obama won because of people like Bilgeman. The rest of the Country cares.”
“That doesn’t even make sense.”
It doesn’t make sense to you because your world is the size a one-bedroom apartment; other countries and people don’t exist.
I’d like to see you WITHOUT your Mexican tomatoes, Ecuadorian bananas, Bolivian silver, Brazilian coffee, German BMW, Chinese everything, French wine and cheese, Asian tires, Fiji water, Venezuelan chocolate and Russian bride . . .
Jan 20, 2009 - 8:54 pm 63. oscar hernandez:Bilgeman:
You are cultural bankrupt
Jan 20, 2009 - 10:33 pm 64. Horace Wells:Oh wow, there is evil in the world, and we will fight it as long as there is some chance the US may get hurt, otherwise, you’re on your own. And as long the US people don’t have to risk or sacrifice much too. Don’t raise taxes, even in times of war. Don’t bother to see that our so called allies may be worse than our enemies. And at all costs, help establish Islamic regimes to promote freedom. Afghanistan is such a success, only about 60% is under the control of old warlords and Taliban, great vision there.
Give me a break, not only is there evil in the world but there is evil in ourselves, but the juvenile self righteous seem blind to the evil in themselves as long as they have the usual check list of monsters to fight.
Jan 20, 2009 - 10:54 pm 65. LynnS.:#64 Horace Wells
Jan 21, 2009 - 5:45 am 66. Chris:Get in your car, pump it with gas, get out on the open road, buy a map and make your way to Virginia, find Arlington National Cemetary, get out of your car and look. Go back home go on the internet look up the website for Arlington National Cemetary and read the stories. Than get your ass back on this site and say the same thing your saying about Americans and what they are willing to sacrifice. The only thing Americans are not willing to sacrifice is the time we waste reading what people like you have to say about us. Even the new President knew where he needed to go because he knew the reason he was able to take the oath he took yesterday.
I belief that Donald Kent Douglas is very correct. Bush was an uncommon president with clear moral vision. Yes he made his mistakes, but he was never confused of where he was going. Mr Obama has not made his own mistakes yet. Let’s watch and see.
Jan 21, 2009 - 8:19 am 67. Horace Wells:I didn’t see his inaugural speech very inspiring. He has even began to tone down his rhetoric that every one of Bush’s policies was a failure. He’s even adopting some of them. History will remember President G W Bush as a great US president in the very near future.
LynnS
Jan 21, 2009 - 9:08 am 68. Bilgeman:Your rebuttal makes no sense. We didn’t invade Iraq or Afghanistan out of some grand moral humanitarian motives and vision, we did those for revenge and security reasons. There is nothing more contemptible than some hack or politician using dead servicemen as props to hide his bad policies. I am talking about politicians and their bad decisions. All you are babbeling some cheap sentimental garbage that can only be charitably called anti-intellectual, because it makes no sense and shows your utter lack of both moral and intellectual faculties. You seem to be a true BDS sufferer, you are unable to see past his slogans and cliches.
BTW: I’ve been there twice.
#62 vivo
“It doesn’t make sense to you because your world is the size a one-bedroom apartment; other countries and people don’t exist.”
You projecting your own life onto me, pal? I’ve been a seaman for over twenty years. You wanna know how large the world is?
Three months at twenty knots via Panama and Suez canals.
Get back to me when you’ve circumnavigated, until then, STFU, (I’m doing you a favor here…you sound like a ‘tard).
“I’d like to see you WITHOUT your Mexican tomatoes, Ecuadorian bananas, Bolivian silver, Brazilian coffee, German BMW, Chinese everything, French wine and cheese, Asian tires, Fiji water, Venezuelan chocolate and Russian bride .”
I’m the guy who brings those things to you, hotshot.
Except for the Russian bride…you’ll have to go score one of those yourselves,(and…uhhh…good luck with that. They want “out”, but they got standards, too.)
I’ve been places that aren’t even places anymore…since the tsunami.
Jan 21, 2009 - 9:28 am 69. David S:@61.
BM,
I really think that is up to each individual voter. That’s what democracy demands.
I recall posing the same question many times during the last eight years.
Do you have any evidence that people did so?
At least we agree on something.
Peace.
DS
Jan 21, 2009 - 9:28 am 70. Bilgeman:#63 Oscar:
“You are cultural bankrupt”
You need to work on your English before you try swingin’ with us natives.
That there is an ad hominem attack, unsupported by any facts.
You’re just calling names…what, La Migra deported you from your lucrative McDonald’s job?
But if I am indeed culturally bankrupt, then why not tell your amigos to stay in Mexico?
Jan 21, 2009 - 9:31 am 71. oscar hernandez:Poor xenophobic, cultural bankrupt, person you are.
Chinga tu madre pinche naco, eres un pince naco de mierda, has de comer mierda ya que se ve que ni trabajas, culpas al mundo de que eres white trash.
And yes you are cultural bankrupt, your comments fulfill that description.
Jan 21, 2009 - 9:42 am 72. Bilgeman:#71 Oscar:
“And yes you are cultural bankrupt, your comments fulfill that description”
Ahhh, and yet who is the pendejo who resorts to a string of profanity, even if in Spanish, as HIS riposte?
Hit a nerve, didn’t I?
Next time the man says “onion rings” don’t give him “french fries”.
Jan 21, 2009 - 9:54 am 73. LynnS.:That doesn’t work in Juarez…and it doesn’t work in Omaha, me comprende, vato?
#67 Oh, yea, and I’m going to read your claptrap garbage that Americans never do and will never do anything that doesn’t serve their own selfish motives without responding in like. So typical of you and those like you, making blanket statements and than becoming highly indignant when what you throw out, comes back and knocks you right on your noggin. You must be very lonely the only American worthy of the space you occupy.
You are free to send any extra cash you have in to the government.
Jan 21, 2009 - 9:55 am 74. Diane Duffy:Since when is lying moral?
Since when is torture moral?
Pride and arrogance are not moral acts.
Watching a city drown while you are on vacation or partying with you pal is not moral.
Breaking laws and putting unqualified people into important positions is not moral.
George Bush is not a moral person.
Jan 21, 2009 - 11:19 am 75. oscar hernandez:And I’m glad he’s back in Texas where he can’t harm this country any longer.
I am not going to read your response Bilgeman
You are just a racist, cultural bankrupt, sad example of human being
And I can use profanity in all the languages I know, not like you, that can barely think in your own language
Jan 21, 2009 - 12:01 pm 76. vivo:68. Bilgeman:
“I’m the guy who brings those things to you, hotshot.”
Just what I thought, except your “room” in the ship is smaller than I thought. For all the wordly navigating you do, you haven’t learned much. Instead of appreciating humanity, you seem to hate it. I don’t blame you, the ports that you visit are probably very uncomfortable. I agree, the USA offers a more decent living and that’s why many decent people in the world want to come here. That frightens the locals (I didn’t say natives). I don’t blame you again. That’s why education is important here or anywhere. It may take a generation, but see what happened with the “moronic” Germans, Italian, Irish, Mexican and other immigrants of the past: now they are assimilated. I’m sorry if I pinched a nerve, but your attitude doesn’t make you look good. And I erred about the Russian bride, maybe it was from Korea . . .
Jan 21, 2009 - 8:23 pm 77. Marie Claude:From Muhammad to Rousseau
Jan 22, 2009 - 6:55 pm 78. JackT:I believe Muhammad is at the origin of “le contrat social” and that all men are equal
That’s the problem with you Republicans, you think guns will solve everything. You think it’s moral vision and true leadership to go off half cocked blowing up shit to make a statement. To call it a “war on terror” was the biggest mistake ever. Have you noticed that Obama has never said “war on terror” in any speech. That’s because when you deem it a war, you gives those scumbag thugs equal footing. What it is is an attempt to locate criminals and arrest them or kill them. We are looking for terrorists in civilian clothing who hide behind women and children, who actually use women and children on suicide missions, and maim little girls just for going to school. No these are not true warriors, they are cowardly criminals. We need a wise and prudent man to deal with this, not some shit-kicker from Texas.
Jan 22, 2009 - 11:54 pm 79. LynnS.:#78 JackT: When American Troops are sent into an area of the world to fight, Republicans are not afraid to call it a war unlike Democrats who prefer to call it a “police action”.
We Republicans HOPE that Democrats will CHANGE and not expect the rest of the country to clean up, after their wise and prudent leader speakes to them about personal responsibility, and then after the cheering Democrats crowd walks away, leaves over 300 tons of trash behind, including American Flags they enthusiastcally waved to the cameras. Democrats can’t even carry the weight of their own trash with them so it is no wonder we worry whether they can carry the responsiblity of running the country.
Jan 23, 2009 - 7:15 am 80. ZKenesi:I post from Africa solely to agree whole heartedly with Terence Chin in post 42. I greatly admired President Bush as the strongest and most courageous world leader of our time who did the things he had to do for his country and the free world. And I was deeply satisfied that he was able to get re-elected, and succeeded in preventing another major homeland terrorist attack under his watch. But of course the flag burners, the enemy comforters, fault finders, abortionists and same sex spouses of America lack in them the ability to understand,let alone appreciate his patriotic motives and strong philosophies.
Jan 23, 2009 - 8:08 am 81. Bilgeman:#78 JackT:
” What it is is an attempt to locate criminals and arrest them or kill them. ”
Clinton tried that, and it didn’t work.
If it were only that simple.
And whether you like to admit it or not, there is definitely a place for military action when dealing with the states that support state-sponsored terror.
What has always bugged me is that terrorists have never been declared, as pirates were under Admiralty Law, “Enemies of All Humanity”.
Once that little monniker gets hung on them, all kinds of options open up:
civil, criminal, military and combinations of all three.
” We need a wise and prudent man to deal with this, not some shit-kicker from Texas.”
That shit-kicker got results. Don’t look the gift horse in the mouth, podnuh…
Jan 23, 2009 - 10:06 am 82. deguello:Is pimping out the country to the likes of Vicente Fox,calling Islam a religion of peace,and trying to foist a pliable cretin like Harriet Meyers examples of Bush’s mral vision? Bush was a fool, and Obama will be a disaster!
Jan 23, 2009 - 10:15 am 83. deguello:Jack T :Guns don’t solve problems?Last time I looked,Russia was free of nazis and so was France.Obama never says “war on terror” because,like all liberals, he has trouble dealing with such nasty realities as war, terrorism, and economics.BTW: the messiah just sent out a drone to blow up kill several Muslim terrorist suspects in Pakistan,It seems Obama disagrees with your theory about guns not solbving anything.Some chang!
Jan 23, 2009 - 10:26 am 84. JackT:The words “war on terror” only inflames the Muslim world to actually think we mean “war on Muslims”. You have to be careful about how you deal with these people. You Republicans don’t use your brains much. All of this macho crap will get us nowhere. Just pay attention, and in the very near future, our dealings in the middle east will improve dramatically. You won’t get anywhere by treating other countries like second class nations (even if they are). You ever heard of diplomacy? You people must be really ignorant if you actually think that we can catch all of the terrorists, or prevent further attacks. We’re an open society, all it takes is just one nutjob to kill thousands. We cannot prevent it. The best approach is to attempt to change the way the Muslim world thinks of us (all the while maintaining a vigorous anti terror policy) and calling upon other nations in the region and throughout the world to work together to foster a more positive approach to ending poverty and backwards thinking in many of those countries. You assholes just enjoy going off and blowing up stuff. They love that, it just gives them more incentive to teach their young to hate us.
Jan 23, 2009 - 11:04 am 85. Bilgeman:#84 JackT:
“You assholes just enjoy going off and blowing up stuff. They love that, it just gives them more incentive to teach their young to hate us.”
How sad, here you are calling for us to take a more perceptive and nuanced view of the Muslim world,(correctly so, IMO), yet you are displaying every indication of the Manichean weltanscahuung towards your own countrymen.
Newsflash…there are people out there, (and in here, too!), who are going to hate us no matter what we do or do not do.
If you think that Islamist terrorism is a direct reaction to our foreign and military policies, then I ask you to explain the Madrid terrorist attacks of 7/7.
Who’d the Spanish ever piss off lately?
Whose stuff did they blow up?
But they got the terrorist mass-murder all the same.
For the haters out there, they,(and more pointedly, their neighbors), have to have a certainty that acts of terror against us are not going to go unpunished, and our vengeance is going to be harsh enough that it will be far better for them to abandon their schemes…or to betray those plans, if they have foreknowledge of them.
“The words “war on terror” only inflames the Muslim world to actually think we mean “war on Muslims”. ”
Only to the dullards and haters among them, and the no-war-for-any-reason crowd here at home.
We’ve been in Iraq for almost 6 years now, and more Muslims have died at the hands of OTHER Muslims than have died from US action.
Have you ever BEEN to the Arab world? You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting some chap who has a cousin in Detroit or a brother in Brooklyn.
They know better than that by now.
In fact, since a Muslim is FAR more likely to gakk it by another Muslim ’s AK than from a US Marine gunship…or an IDF bomb, it might surprise you to learn how much support, albeit muted, there is for our efforts against these murderous scoundrels.
Did the meaning of the “Anbar Awakening” TOTALLY escape you? Or are you wilfully ignoring it out of some agenda of your own?
Anbar Province was Ground Zero for Al Qaeda’s Foreign terrorists in Iraq…you know what happenned? The people of Anbar got fed up with having those murderous Mooj scum in their midst, and turned ‘em out…to us, fella.
Jan 23, 2009 - 4:03 pm 86. Bilgeman:#76 vivo:
“Instead of appreciating humanity, you seem to hate it.”
Your perception is flatly wrong and perhaps colored by your politics.
Much like your notions of my living arrangements…weren’t you the clown who claimed to be a “citizen of the world” a few subjects ago?
Turns out that I can probably stake a more valid claim to that than you…but I wouldn’t.
As it turns out, I don’t hate them, but nor necessarily do I love them.
“I agree, the USA offers a more decent living and that’s why many decent people in the world want to come here. That frightens the locals (I didn’t say natives). I don’t blame you again.”
I don’t care if you “blame” me or not, sonny. Get over yourself…you just ain’t all that important t’me.
Most of the world is a sh*t-hole, and they’re each like that for many of the same reasons.
If people want to live, or barring that, are content to live ,on a dung-heap, then that’s their call…who am I to judge?
But when they want to come to my country, or impose their dung-heap ways HERE…we’re going to have problems.
Just like I have problems with you falling to your knees and slobbering al over Oscar’s Mexican knob for his opinions of things that are none of his affair.
Mexico,(which I’ve also been to…several times), is the WORST kind of dung-heap. It’s the worst because it has everything it needs to stand in the first rank among nations, but doesn’t.
Sadly, the Mexican people seem content to live under the most scurrilous cabal of oligarchical kleptocrats and their hired thuggery you could imagine.
You think Bush and Cheney kept the money circulating to their buddies?
Brother, you ain’t seen NOTHIN’. Those guys are punters compared to the naked in-your-face corruption you’d see south of the Rio Grande.
You want that here?
Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.
Move down there a spell, and see how you like it. (Of course you’d be a rich gringo, so you’d prolly LOVE it!).
“That’s why education is important here or anywhere. It may take a generation, but see what happened with the “moronic” Germans, Italian, Irish, Mexican and other immigrants of the past: now they are assimilated. ”
Education to what? By whom? GMAFB vivo!
So much of our public school curricula has been stripped of the common Judeo-Christian values and regard for the principles first elucidated by what is now derisively known as “Dead White Men” that once formed the core of what our variegated European tribes had to hew to to BECOME Americans, that any “education” will simply sequester these new immigrants in their own tribal ghettoes.
And the social policies sponsored by the same multi-culti gang are in place to ensure that those ghettoes remain a permanent feature of our cultural scene.
“And I erred about the Russian bride, maybe it was from Korea . . .”
Is that where your spouse is from? What’s his name?
My wife is half Indian,(she’ll spit on you if you call her a “Native American”), and half “Land Grant” Spanish…her family once owned about 20% of what we call “New Mexico”.
(That’s also how I can peg Oscar for the peon campesino that he is. You learn a few things about our beloved Latin American neighbors…they do the “caste” thing… high-born, low-born, and then there’s the likes of your compadre Oscar, who is, as the Brazilians would call it:
“malcreado”
(ill-raised)…no matter his caste.)
Jan 23, 2009 - 5:57 pm 87. CJW:#44 Gandhi and King? Look where it got them!
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:59 pm 88. Rodger Holbart:Anyone who can’t see what a disaster the bush presidency was, just deserves more of the same. sheep waiting to be lead to the slaughter.
the bush administration was the worst and most destructive in our nations history by a very wide margin. a horror not only in terms of lives lost, but money wasted and the reputation of our country brought low. they allowed the destruction of the World Trade Center (costing 3thouosand American lives) then went to war with the wrong country costing another 3k American lives and probably way over a million other lives globally, for no purpose reason then their ineptitude. the best thing for George W. Bush to do is put the mussel of a glock in his mouth and pull the trigger. same with cheney
Jan 28, 2009 - 6:00 pm