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	<title>Comments on: George W. Bush&#8217;s Legacy: Moral Vision</title>
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		<title>By: Rodger Holbart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodger Holbart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who can&#039;t see what a disaster the bush presidency was, just deserves more of the same. sheep waiting to be lead to the slaughter. 

the bush administration was the worst and most destructive in our nations history by a very wide margin. a horror not only in terms of lives lost, but money wasted and the reputation of our country brought low. they allowed the destruction of the World Trade Center (costing 3thouosand American lives) then went to war with the wrong country costing another 3k American lives and probably way over a million other lives globally, for no purpose reason then their ineptitude. the best thing for George W. Bush to do is put the mussel of a glock in his mouth and pull the trigger. same with cheney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who can&#8217;t see what a disaster the bush presidency was, just deserves more of the same. sheep waiting to be lead to the slaughter. </p>
<p>the bush administration was the worst and most destructive in our nations history by a very wide margin. a horror not only in terms of lives lost, but money wasted and the reputation of our country brought low. they allowed the destruction of the World Trade Center (costing 3thouosand American lives) then went to war with the wrong country costing another 3k American lives and probably way over a million other lives globally, for no purpose reason then their ineptitude. the best thing for George W. Bush to do is put the mussel of a glock in his mouth and pull the trigger. same with cheney</p>
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		<title>By: CJW</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44 Gandhi and King?  Look where it got them!</description>
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		<title>By: Bilgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#76 vivo:

&quot;Instead of appreciating humanity, you seem to hate it.&quot;

 Your perception is flatly wrong and perhaps colored by your politics.

Much like your notions of my living arrangements...weren&#039;t you the clown who claimed to be a &quot;citizen of the world&quot; a few subjects ago?

 Turns out that I can probably stake a more valid claim to that than you...but I wouldn&#039;t.

 As it turns out, I don&#039;t hate them, but nor necessarily do I love them. 

&quot;I agree, the USA offers a more decent living and that’s why many decent people in the world want to come here. That frightens the locals (I didn’t say natives). I don’t blame you again.&quot;

 I don&#039;t care if you &quot;blame&quot; me or not, sonny. Get over yourself...you just ain&#039;t all that important t&#039;me.

 Most of the world is a sh*t-hole, and they&#039;re each like that for many of the same reasons. 
 If people want to live, or barring that, are content to live ,on a dung-heap, then that&#039;s their call...who am I to judge?
 
 But when they want to come to my country, or impose their dung-heap ways HERE...we&#039;re going to have problems.
 Just like I have problems with you falling to your knees and slobbering al over Oscar&#039;s Mexican knob for his opinions of things that are none of his affair.

 Mexico,(which I&#039;ve also been to...several times), is the WORST kind of dung-heap. It&#039;s the worst because it has everything it needs to stand in the first rank among nations, but doesn&#039;t.

 Sadly, the Mexican people seem content to live under the most scurrilous cabal of oligarchical kleptocrats and their hired thuggery you could imagine. 
 You think Bush and Cheney kept the money circulating to their buddies?
 Brother, you ain&#039;t seen NOTHIN&#039;. Those guys are punters compared to the naked in-your-face corruption you&#039;d see south of the Rio Grande.

 You want that here? 

Ain&#039;t. Gonna. Happen.

 Move down there a spell, and see how you like it. (Of course you&#039;d be a rich gringo, so you&#039;d prolly LOVE it!).

&quot;That’s why education is important here or anywhere. It may take a generation, but see what happened with the “moronic” Germans, Italian, Irish, Mexican and other immigrants of the past: now they are assimilated. &quot;

 Education to what? By whom? GMAFB vivo! 
So much of our public school curricula has been stripped of the common Judeo-Christian values and regard for the principles first elucidated by what is now derisively known as &quot;Dead White Men&quot; that once formed the core of what our variegated European tribes had to hew to to BECOME Americans, that any &quot;education&quot; will simply sequester these new immigrants in their own tribal ghettoes.

 And the social policies sponsored by the same multi-culti gang are in place to ensure that those ghettoes remain a permanent feature of our cultural scene.

&quot;And I erred about the Russian bride, maybe it was from Korea . . .&quot;

 Is that where your spouse is from? What&#039;s his name?

 My wife is half Indian,(she&#039;ll spit on you if you call her a &quot;Native American&quot;), and half &quot;Land Grant&quot; Spanish...her family once owned about 20% of what we call &quot;New Mexico&quot;.
(That&#039;s also how I can peg Oscar for the peon campesino that he is. You learn a few things about our beloved Latin American neighbors...they do the &quot;caste&quot; thing... high-born, low-born, and then there&#039;s the likes of your compadre Oscar, who is, as the Brazilians would call it: 

&quot;malcreado&quot;

(ill-raised)...no matter his caste.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#76 vivo:</p>
<p>&#8220;Instead of appreciating humanity, you seem to hate it.&#8221;</p>
<p> Your perception is flatly wrong and perhaps colored by your politics.</p>
<p>Much like your notions of my living arrangements&#8230;weren&#8217;t you the clown who claimed to be a &#8220;citizen of the world&#8221; a few subjects ago?</p>
<p> Turns out that I can probably stake a more valid claim to that than you&#8230;but I wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p> As it turns out, I don&#8217;t hate them, but nor necessarily do I love them. </p>
<p>&#8220;I agree, the USA offers a more decent living and that’s why many decent people in the world want to come here. That frightens the locals (I didn’t say natives). I don’t blame you again.&#8221;</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t care if you &#8220;blame&#8221; me or not, sonny. Get over yourself&#8230;you just ain&#8217;t all that important t&#8217;me.</p>
<p> Most of the world is a sh*t-hole, and they&#8217;re each like that for many of the same reasons.<br />
 If people want to live, or barring that, are content to live ,on a dung-heap, then that&#8217;s their call&#8230;who am I to judge?</p>
<p> But when they want to come to my country, or impose their dung-heap ways HERE&#8230;we&#8217;re going to have problems.<br />
 Just like I have problems with you falling to your knees and slobbering al over Oscar&#8217;s Mexican knob for his opinions of things that are none of his affair.</p>
<p> Mexico,(which I&#8217;ve also been to&#8230;several times), is the WORST kind of dung-heap. It&#8217;s the worst because it has everything it needs to stand in the first rank among nations, but doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p> Sadly, the Mexican people seem content to live under the most scurrilous cabal of oligarchical kleptocrats and their hired thuggery you could imagine.<br />
 You think Bush and Cheney kept the money circulating to their buddies?<br />
 Brother, you ain&#8217;t seen NOTHIN&#8217;. Those guys are punters compared to the naked in-your-face corruption you&#8217;d see south of the Rio Grande.</p>
<p> You want that here? </p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t. Gonna. Happen.</p>
<p> Move down there a spell, and see how you like it. (Of course you&#8217;d be a rich gringo, so you&#8217;d prolly LOVE it!).</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s why education is important here or anywhere. It may take a generation, but see what happened with the “moronic” Germans, Italian, Irish, Mexican and other immigrants of the past: now they are assimilated. &#8221;</p>
<p> Education to what? By whom? GMAFB vivo!<br />
So much of our public school curricula has been stripped of the common Judeo-Christian values and regard for the principles first elucidated by what is now derisively known as &#8220;Dead White Men&#8221; that once formed the core of what our variegated European tribes had to hew to to BECOME Americans, that any &#8220;education&#8221; will simply sequester these new immigrants in their own tribal ghettoes.</p>
<p> And the social policies sponsored by the same multi-culti gang are in place to ensure that those ghettoes remain a permanent feature of our cultural scene.</p>
<p>&#8220;And I erred about the Russian bride, maybe it was from Korea . . .&#8221;</p>
<p> Is that where your spouse is from? What&#8217;s his name?</p>
<p> My wife is half Indian,(she&#8217;ll spit on you if you call her a &#8220;Native American&#8221;), and half &#8220;Land Grant&#8221; Spanish&#8230;her family once owned about 20% of what we call &#8220;New Mexico&#8221;.<br />
(That&#8217;s also how I can peg Oscar for the peon campesino that he is. You learn a few things about our beloved Latin American neighbors&#8230;they do the &#8220;caste&#8221; thing&#8230; high-born, low-born, and then there&#8217;s the likes of your compadre Oscar, who is, as the Brazilians would call it: </p>
<p>&#8220;malcreado&#8221;</p>
<p>(ill-raised)&#8230;no matter his caste.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bilgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#84 JackT:

&quot;You assholes just enjoy going off and blowing up stuff. They love that, it just gives them more incentive to teach their young to hate us.&quot;

 How sad, here you are calling for us to take a more perceptive and nuanced view of the Muslim world,(correctly so, IMO), yet you are displaying every indication of the Manichean weltanscahuung towards your own countrymen.

 Newsflash...there are people out there, (and in here, too!), who are going to hate us no matter what we do or do not do.

 If you think that Islamist terrorism is a direct reaction to our foreign and military policies, then I ask you to explain the Madrid terrorist attacks of 7/7.

 Who&#039;d the Spanish ever piss off lately? 

 Whose stuff did they blow up?

 But they got the terrorist mass-murder all the same.

 For the haters out there, they,(and more pointedly, their neighbors), have to have a certainty that acts of terror against us are not going to go unpunished, and our vengeance is going to be harsh enough that it will be far better for them to abandon their schemes...or to betray those plans, if they have foreknowledge of them.

&quot;The words “war on terror” only inflames the Muslim world to actually think we mean “war on Muslims”. &quot;

 Only to the dullards and haters among them, and the no-war-for-any-reason crowd here at home.

 We&#039;ve been in Iraq for almost 6 years now, and more Muslims have died at the hands of OTHER Muslims than have died from US action.

 Have you ever BEEN to the Arab world? You can&#039;t swing a dead cat without hitting some chap who has a cousin in Detroit or a brother in Brooklyn.

 They know better than that by now.

 In fact, since a Muslim is FAR more likely to gakk it by another Muslim &#039;s AK than from a US Marine gunship...or an IDF bomb, it might surprise you to learn how much support, albeit muted, there is for our efforts against these murderous scoundrels.

 Did the meaning of the &quot;Anbar Awakening&quot; TOTALLY escape you? Or are you wilfully ignoring it out of some agenda of your own?

 Anbar Province was Ground Zero for Al Qaeda&#039;s Foreign terrorists in Iraq...you know what happenned? The people of Anbar got fed up with having those murderous Mooj scum in their midst, and turned &#039;em out...to us, fella.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#84 JackT:</p>
<p>&#8220;You assholes just enjoy going off and blowing up stuff. They love that, it just gives them more incentive to teach their young to hate us.&#8221;</p>
<p> How sad, here you are calling for us to take a more perceptive and nuanced view of the Muslim world,(correctly so, IMO), yet you are displaying every indication of the Manichean weltanscahuung towards your own countrymen.</p>
<p> Newsflash&#8230;there are people out there, (and in here, too!), who are going to hate us no matter what we do or do not do.</p>
<p> If you think that Islamist terrorism is a direct reaction to our foreign and military policies, then I ask you to explain the Madrid terrorist attacks of 7/7.</p>
<p> Who&#8217;d the Spanish ever piss off lately? </p>
<p> Whose stuff did they blow up?</p>
<p> But they got the terrorist mass-murder all the same.</p>
<p> For the haters out there, they,(and more pointedly, their neighbors), have to have a certainty that acts of terror against us are not going to go unpunished, and our vengeance is going to be harsh enough that it will be far better for them to abandon their schemes&#8230;or to betray those plans, if they have foreknowledge of them.</p>
<p>&#8220;The words “war on terror” only inflames the Muslim world to actually think we mean “war on Muslims”. &#8221;</p>
<p> Only to the dullards and haters among them, and the no-war-for-any-reason crowd here at home.</p>
<p> We&#8217;ve been in Iraq for almost 6 years now, and more Muslims have died at the hands of OTHER Muslims than have died from US action.</p>
<p> Have you ever BEEN to the Arab world? You can&#8217;t swing a dead cat without hitting some chap who has a cousin in Detroit or a brother in Brooklyn.</p>
<p> They know better than that by now.</p>
<p> In fact, since a Muslim is FAR more likely to gakk it by another Muslim &#8217;s AK than from a US Marine gunship&#8230;or an IDF bomb, it might surprise you to learn how much support, albeit muted, there is for our efforts against these murderous scoundrels.</p>
<p> Did the meaning of the &#8220;Anbar Awakening&#8221; TOTALLY escape you? Or are you wilfully ignoring it out of some agenda of your own?</p>
<p> Anbar Province was Ground Zero for Al Qaeda&#8217;s Foreign terrorists in Iraq&#8230;you know what happenned? The people of Anbar got fed up with having those murderous Mooj scum in their midst, and turned &#8216;em out&#8230;to us, fella.</p>
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		<title>By: JackT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The words &quot;war on terror&quot; only inflames the Muslim world to actually think we mean &quot;war on Muslims&quot;. You have to be careful about how you deal with these people. You Republicans don&#039;t use your brains much. All of this macho crap will get us nowhere. Just pay attention, and in the very near future, our dealings in the middle east will improve dramatically. You won&#039;t get anywhere by treating other countries like second class nations (even if they are). You ever heard of diplomacy? You people must be really ignorant if you actually think that we can catch all of the terrorists, or prevent further attacks. We&#039;re an open society, all it takes is just one nutjob to kill thousands. We cannot prevent it. The best approach is to attempt to change the way the Muslim world thinks of us (all the while maintaining a vigorous anti terror policy) and calling upon other nations in the region and throughout the world to work together to foster a more positive approach to ending poverty and backwards thinking in many of those countries. You assholes just enjoy going off and blowing up stuff. They love that, it just gives them more incentive to teach their young to hate us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The words &#8220;war on terror&#8221; only inflames the Muslim world to actually think we mean &#8220;war on Muslims&#8221;. You have to be careful about how you deal with these people. You Republicans don&#8217;t use your brains much. All of this macho crap will get us nowhere. Just pay attention, and in the very near future, our dealings in the middle east will improve dramatically. You won&#8217;t get anywhere by treating other countries like second class nations (even if they are). You ever heard of diplomacy? You people must be really ignorant if you actually think that we can catch all of the terrorists, or prevent further attacks. We&#8217;re an open society, all it takes is just one nutjob to kill thousands. We cannot prevent it. The best approach is to attempt to change the way the Muslim world thinks of us (all the while maintaining a vigorous anti terror policy) and calling upon other nations in the region and throughout the world to work together to foster a more positive approach to ending poverty and backwards thinking in many of those countries. You assholes just enjoy going off and blowing up stuff. They love that, it just gives them more incentive to teach their young to hate us.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack T :Guns don&#039;t solve problems?Last time I looked,Russia was free of nazis and so was France.Obama never says &quot;war on terror&quot; because,like all liberals, he has trouble dealing with such nasty realities as war, terrorism, and economics.BTW: the messiah just sent  out a drone to blow up kill several Muslim terrorist suspects in Pakistan,It seems Obama disagrees with your theory about guns not solbving anything.Some chang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack T :Guns don&#8217;t solve problems?Last time I looked,Russia was free of nazis and so was France.Obama never says &#8220;war on terror&#8221; because,like all liberals, he has trouble dealing with such nasty realities as war, terrorism, and economics.BTW: the messiah just sent  out a drone to blow up kill several Muslim terrorist suspects in Pakistan,It seems Obama disagrees with your theory about guns not solbving anything.Some chang!</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is pimping out the country to the likes of Vicente Fox,calling Islam a religion of peace,and trying to foist a pliable cretin like Harriet Meyers examples of Bush&#039;s mral vision? Bush was a fool, and Obama will be a disaster!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is pimping out the country to the likes of Vicente Fox,calling Islam a religion of peace,and trying to foist a pliable cretin like Harriet Meyers examples of Bush&#8217;s mral vision? Bush was a fool, and Obama will be a disaster!</p>
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		<title>By: Bilgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#78 JackT:

&quot; What it is is an attempt to locate criminals and arrest them or kill them. &quot;

 Clinton tried that, and it didn&#039;t work.

 If it were only that simple. 
And whether you like to admit it or not, there is definitely a place for military action when dealing with the states that support state-sponsored terror.

 What has always bugged me is that terrorists have never been declared, as pirates were under Admiralty Law, &quot;Enemies of All Humanity&quot;.

 Once that little monniker gets hung on them, all kinds of options open up:
civil, criminal, military and combinations of all three.

&quot; We need a wise and prudent man to deal with this, not some shit-kicker from Texas.&quot;

 That shit-kicker got results. Don&#039;t look the gift horse in the mouth, podnuh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#78 JackT:</p>
<p>&#8221; What it is is an attempt to locate criminals and arrest them or kill them. &#8221;</p>
<p> Clinton tried that, and it didn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p> If it were only that simple.<br />
And whether you like to admit it or not, there is definitely a place for military action when dealing with the states that support state-sponsored terror.</p>
<p> What has always bugged me is that terrorists have never been declared, as pirates were under Admiralty Law, &#8220;Enemies of All Humanity&#8221;.</p>
<p> Once that little monniker gets hung on them, all kinds of options open up:<br />
civil, criminal, military and combinations of all three.</p>
<p>&#8221; We need a wise and prudent man to deal with this, not some shit-kicker from Texas.&#8221;</p>
<p> That shit-kicker got results. Don&#8217;t look the gift horse in the mouth, podnuh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ZKenesi</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZKenesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I post from Africa solely to agree whole heartedly with Terence Chin in post 42. I greatly admired President Bush as the strongest and most courageous world leader of our time who did the things he had to do for his country and the free world. And I was deeply satisfied that he was able to get re-elected, and succeeded in preventing another major homeland terrorist attack under his watch. But of course the flag burners, the enemy comforters, fault finders, abortionists and same sex spouses of America lack in them the ability to understand,let alone appreciate his patriotic motives and strong philosophies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I post from Africa solely to agree whole heartedly with Terence Chin in post 42. I greatly admired President Bush as the strongest and most courageous world leader of our time who did the things he had to do for his country and the free world. And I was deeply satisfied that he was able to get re-elected, and succeeded in preventing another major homeland terrorist attack under his watch. But of course the flag burners, the enemy comforters, fault finders, abortionists and same sex spouses of America lack in them the ability to understand,let alone appreciate his patriotic motives and strong philosophies.</p>
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		<title>By: LynnS.</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynnS.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#78 JackT:  When American Troops are sent into an area of the world to fight, Republicans are not afraid to call it a war unlike Democrats who prefer to call it a &quot;police action&quot;.

We Republicans HOPE that Democrats will CHANGE and not expect the rest of the country to clean up, after their wise and prudent leader speakes to them about personal responsibility, and then after the cheering Democrats crowd walks away, leaves over 300 tons of trash behind, including American Flags they enthusiastcally waved to the cameras.  Democrats can&#039;t even carry the weight of their own trash with them so it is no wonder we worry whether they can carry the responsiblity of running the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#78 JackT:  When American Troops are sent into an area of the world to fight, Republicans are not afraid to call it a war unlike Democrats who prefer to call it a &#8220;police action&#8221;.</p>
<p>We Republicans HOPE that Democrats will CHANGE and not expect the rest of the country to clean up, after their wise and prudent leader speakes to them about personal responsibility, and then after the cheering Democrats crowd walks away, leaves over 300 tons of trash behind, including American Flags they enthusiastcally waved to the cameras.  Democrats can&#8217;t even carry the weight of their own trash with them so it is no wonder we worry whether they can carry the responsiblity of running the country.</p>
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