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1. David H:

Excellent report and thanks for pointing this out.

Oct 10, 2008 - 12:36 am 2. Dodgeblogium » German Neo-Nazis View Islamists as Allies:

[...] hostile to its sponsor, the “citizens’ movement” Pro-Cologne [Pro-Köln]. read more | digg [...]

Oct 10, 2008 - 4:12 am 3. DoktorNo:

What a “wonderful” situation!

Some opponents of anti-islamization ally themselves with questionable white nationalists, and real neo-nazis ally with islamists.

And in the meantime multiculturalistic establishment have a good excuse to call anybody, who is expressing concern about islamisation of Europe and multi-kulti crazyness, a “far right extremists”.

Oct 10, 2008 - 4:33 am 4. Paul from Florida:

The real Nazis partnered with Islam. What’s the change?

Oct 10, 2008 - 5:03 am 5. Stephen Gash:

SIOE is an anti-islamisation organisation which does not ally itself with Nazis, communists or fascists. In fact it bans them from its events.

The new totalitarian system is an amalgam of nazism, communism and islamism which is called Nazislam.

To be more accurate though modern day nazis call themselves international socialists and should be called internazis.

Communist, nazi and islamic leaders are vying for the power, but on the street the followers of each are united against democracy and the West.

Oct 10, 2008 - 5:12 am 6. Don:

Nothing new, the Nazi’s were never subtle in their attempts (before and during WW2) to bring the world of Islam to the table as allies. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was an enthusiastic ally. The seeds of what we see from Salafist Islam (and it’s Iranian equivalent) were laid during WW2. The Nazi’s have not faded from the scene, their heirs are the leadership of Iran, and the SUnni Jihadist insanity

Oct 10, 2008 - 5:22 am 7. john from cinncinati:

they will ally themselves, until one or the other comes to dominance and then they will turn on each other. if my history is correct the Arab divisions of the SS were disbanded due to their lack of organization and hierarchy. they kept stealing each others gear. seems they have overcome that issue.

Oct 10, 2008 - 7:06 am 8. David H:

Stephan Gash, talking complete sense as per normal, my father is still not talking to me after I made him face up to the fact that the Nazi’s were socialists, amazing in that my French wife was even taught that at school…

What we are seeing now is the Nazis of National and International Socialism along with Islam making their move in what seems to be a co-ordinated attempt to destroy the West.

The Americans are being called RACISTS for questionnings Obamas links to Ayers, we get called NEO NAZIS for standing up to Islam, its kinda neat…

Oct 10, 2008 - 7:07 am 9. Markus:

As someone who would definately be voting for these “extremist” parties if he were European, I think this is good news. If it can be proven that the anti-Islamification campaigns are NOT a Nazi fronts, which is what much of Europe (and much of America too) thinks, then people will not immediately dismiss their message.

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Oct 10, 2008 - 7:32 am 11. Sean:

I don’t see how this disproves that the “anti-Islamification” groups are not also neo-nazis. This is simply evidence of disagreement between the various nazi groups. Even in the supposedly sane websites frequented by the “anti-islamists,” such as the gates of vienna, people go berserk when the word “Jew” comes up.

Oct 10, 2008 - 9:42 am 12. Marina:

INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISTS VIEW ISLAMISTS AS ALLIES. TOO.

Oct 10, 2008 - 11:07 am 13. naftali:

It’s very logical, no surprise. Himmler’s love affair with the Arab world is well known. It’s also logical and without surprise that they will end up committing violent acts against each other.

Oct 10, 2008 - 11:07 am 14. Marina:

It’s interesting that both, ULTRA-LEFT and ULTRA-RIGHT find themselves united when they see Islamist radicals, because all three of them want to destroy 2 main goals: America and Israel. Astonishing. But not surprising. They have AT LEAST one thing in common: SOCIALISM:

Ultra-Right (in Europe): “National-SOCIALIST Party” (Hitler’s one)
Ultra-Left: just “SOCIALIST Party”
Bin Laden: “Socialists are our allies, they have the same goal: to destroy America”.

Oct 10, 2008 - 11:40 am 15. fp:

Why _shouldn’t_ the “mammonistic west” be stopped again?

Enlighten me.

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Secondly as far as allies betraying each other… Anybody would “do violence” against anybody. It has to do with power vacumn.

That fact of nature though shouldn’t smoke screen over the main points:

-the mammon west is bad for high IQ men (Hell, men in general);

-and each country should be racially and ethnically sovereign until if/when there are _real_ solutions to human condition struggles (which come from exsisting in an inherently unfair discriminatory material world [eg ugly duckling syndrome; limited resourses; darwinist chicks in the nest-pushing sibling rivalry battles of life; cold shallow people etc]).

None of this is that complicated.

Oct 10, 2008 - 11:44 am 16. Markus:

Sean, I’m not sure which people who “go beserk when Jews are mentioned” you are referring to.
Here is an “I stand with Israel” post from Brussels Journal: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1965. And Gates of Vienna has a sticker on all of its pages in support of Israel.

If there are people with animus toward Jews who post there, these people should be engaged and educated.

Am I correct in suspecting that you think that the Islamification of Europe is not an important or valid issue? If so, how would you feel about the Europeanization of the Middle East, or some part of Asia? Besides Israel, does ANY other nation have a legitimate right to control the ethnic makeup and balance of its people?

Oct 10, 2008 - 12:19 pm 17. Mike N:

The article is a bit one-sided here. Truth is, some Neo-Nazi groups support the anti-Islamization movement and choose to align themselves with Jewish public figures to rally against muslims, others align themselves with Muslims and rally against Jews.

Pro Cologne itself (the organization behind the anti-Islamification Congress) was founded by right-wing extremists and is closely aligned with Neo-Nazi groups.

Oct 10, 2008 - 4:02 pm 18. Sean:

I believe the Europeans have every right to retain their ethnic composition. However, I do not personally have any interest in their doing so because a “European” Europe is hardly more favorable to me than any “moderate” muslim country, which I assume would be the outcome of the islamization of Europe.

Yes, the Gates of Vienna does indeed have a sticker on its pages in support of Israel, but that apparently doesn’t stop many of its guests from hosting round-table discussions on antisemitic conspiracy theories. Fjordman, the author of the article in the brussels journal and a contributor to the gates of vienna, is apparently an exception. Ironically, his article in the journal is proceeded almost entirely by unfavorable comments (though few of the berserk sort). Many european anti-islamists like to include Jewish symbols and attacks against Jews as propaganda to avoid allegations that they have some nazi sympathies. Engaging and educating those people with animus towards to Jews is a fruitless pursuit.

On one hand, we have the neo-nazis described in this article who see Jews, followed by the islamists, as their biggest threat. They choose to use islamists as a weapon against Jews, hoping for a final final-solution, at which time they’ll turn their attention to the islamists. On the other hand, we have the anti-islamists who recognize the islamists as their greatest threat. They are still paranoid of Jews, but the more immediate threat of islamism is their highest priority.

I realize that this paints the Europeans with a broad brush but is nonetheless an accurate generalization. Still, I am sympathetic to those Europeans who oppose islamism and sincerely detest islamofascism but concerned that they constitute an insignificant minority.

Oct 10, 2008 - 9:24 pm 19. Dewinter Battles the Leftwing Fascists, Islamists as Allies | Atlas Shrugs:

[...] German Neo-Nazis View Islamists as Allies (hat tip Andy Bostom) When protesters in Cologne last month managed, with the blessing of the city government, to prevent the holding of an “Anti-Islamification Congress,” the cancellation of the event was widely hailed in the German and international media as a victory against “right-wing extremists” or, more simply put, “Nazis.” (See [1] here, for instance, from the English-language site of the German weekly Der Spiegel.) [...]

Oct 11, 2008 - 1:16 am 20. TonyUSA:

The lie is the idea that totalitarian socialist regimes like the USSR or the National Socialist Party of Germany are “wings” apart but they are one and the same. To paint true Christianity as Nazi far right or KKK is a lie and just a staw man to burn. Socialist regimes are godless and brutal dictatorships. They are total supressors of liberty and true morality and are headed by murderous liars. They hate America because we stand in their way of their goals at least for now. The rise of Barack Hussien Obama brings cheers from both marxist socialist and Islamic jihadist camps who see him as one of themselves. Its a concerted effort to enthrone the man and truly bring a new world age of death and darkness. When socialist dictators rule humanity die by the thousands if not millions and seen in past history. If the United States falls it will be the beginning of the end for the wicked of this earth who will take control as the last restraint is removed and this present evil age comes to a close by the hand of God. Who stopped the Nazi’s, who toppled the USSR, who is fighting the jidhadists. This indeed is a momentous election in the USA’s history.

Oct 11, 2008 - 1:35 am 21. David H:

TonyUSA I am totally with you, that shining beacon on the hill that gives us hope is about to fall like the rest, I am very very worried that the last true bastion of freedom is about to fall to the same forces that are destroying Europe.

Sean as I know a number of the people who you are smearing with your ignorant comment, I can tell you that I have heard them talk passionately about defending Israel and really mean it and I include myself in that number.

The real Neo Nazis do not hide their hatred of Jews and Israel, that is clear.

People like me paranoid of Jews, what a load of twaddle, really silly, do you believein the Elders of Zion rubbish?

Yes you are painting European with your broad brush of ignorance, its like me saying all Americans are racist because of segregation in the southern states in the 50’s, I know that to be false, just as your smear of me and people like me is false.

You assume that Europe would not be a threat, well what about the nuclear weapons that European countries have and the advanced weapons, yes I know its not as advanced as US equipment in some areas, but that is an increased threat.

Also Islam in Europe will be won at the end by the sword, who do you think will be leading that, a nice diplomatic type or someone having won it with the sword seeing further targets for the sword, read history and understand that. At the moment the Europeans are a pain in trade negotiations and their sneering leftie attitude to the USA, if you cannot tell the difference then you are just as lost as many of my fellow Europeans and in my view not a true American, or the type I look at and respect, like those that crossed the Rhine in flimsy boats to save my countrymen at Arnhem…

Oct 11, 2008 - 3:30 am 22. Robin:

The NPD’s take on Islam:

http://www.npd.de/index.php?sek=0&pfad_id=9&cmsint_id=1&detail=309

On the one hand, Islam keeps the immigrants separate and therefore it is good. It prevents them from assimilating and integrating. On the other hand, Muslims do not deserve any special consideration. So, is that pro-Islam or anti-Islam? Or maybe it’s just the regular European attitude?

Oct 11, 2008 - 5:25 pm 23. Robin:

Forgot to add: they seem to be saying “as long as Muslims are against Israel and the US, we support them. But only on those issues.” The increase in “Islamophobia” just shows that Germans are returning to their roots, which is good.

Oct 11, 2008 - 5:29 pm 24. Sean:

If Europeans do not consider Iran’s nukes a threat, then why should I fear European nukes in the hands of islamic states? As a practical matter, it poses no more a threat than the situation we will soon find ourselves - no thanks to Europe.

Unfortunately, Europeans are more than “a pain in trade negotiations and their sneering leftie attitude to the USA.” At the very least, that would make them neutral and uninvolved. However, for decades they have coddled terrorist groups and opposed other nations’ attempts to secure their peoples. I imagine that when Europeans are confronted with their next adversary (after they have sold-out all their allies), the rules that have handicapped us will no longer apply to them.

Europe has sided with jihadists time and again at the expense of civilized peoples, which places it on the opposing side. The anti-islamist movement is hypocrisy.

I only wish Europeans did not put everyone else in the positions where they had to cross rivers to defend against murderous thugs.

Oct 11, 2008 - 6:54 pm 25. David H:

Sean, but do you consider Iranian nukes a threat?

The anti-Islamic movement is hypocrisy, really, why? explain your grand reasonsing why we are hypocrites for saying no to Islam?

Do you know the history of a Bridge too far, sounds like you do not, enlighten me how you managed to work out your rather sad answer. From what you have said your not a true American, your one of those fabricated by the lefts control of the education system in Europe and the USA, I was one, but managed to educate myself out of their mind controls, can you?

Real Americans will know what that act by the 101st signifies!

Oct 12, 2008 - 5:22 am 26. David H:

Robin, the history of Germany is interesting from the time that Prussia forged a German nation and how it unsettled the position of France and Britain, most notably with the 1871 victory with France, I suggest you go and read a bit more history, I as a Brit understand the Germans very well indeed…

Oct 12, 2008 - 5:25 am 27. David H:

Robin, that is a odd attitude in terms of accusing Europeans of keeping Muslims seperate, it is true that we allowed it to happen after the oil crisis in the 70’s. It is perhaps more to do with weakness, stupidity and accomodation rather than arrogance. Muslims have a choice, join the society in which they live or not, I happen to have an awful lot of respect for those that throw off the shackles of Islam. Google why I am not a Muslim, this guy is one of my heros, I would hardly say that if I was a racist…

Oct 12, 2008 - 5:29 am 28. fp:

>I only wish Europeans did not put everyone else in the positions where they had to cross rivers to defend against murderous thugs.

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What ignorant foolery.

Americans have killed more humans through ‘murderous thuggery’ than everyone else put together. And in the name of a lot less rational thought through goals.

German politics in the 20 and 30s –while not understandable by religious nut job standards, from a backwater strip-mine (which more poetic types call ‘america’)– was not murderous thuggery.

It was…

-standard early 20th white male belief
-add some lingering wagerian romanticism,
-add a modern understanding of “materalism” (read ‘darwinism) [which moralists don't understand but is factual none the less]
-add, specifically to Germans then, a sense that they were unfairly stunted by ‘allied’ jealously. (The English at the time were cultivaing effet-ness and the Germans a warrior ethos; this created fear in the English.)

It was not viscious thuggery –it was pretty archtypical classic revolution.

Any belief to the contratry to that is simply ignorance created by propaganda. Ie you’re a rube being agipropped as a usefully idiot; Cannonfodder used by machivellians who don’t actually hold the same ‘honor and duty’ values you do.

Pointing to active war horrors –as a nation is losing and in profound depression– as the point of the earlier political goals from decades earlier is… I don’t know what to call it. But it isn’t accurate and is rooted in propaganda. A propaganda which simply appeals to your simple american nationalism (which you delude yourself into thinking is something other than nationalism).

Ironically I don’t even agree with a lot of German choices of that period. But I simply don’t like anglo american useful idiot backwater, ‘moralist’ sanctimony and hypocrisy (and ignorance of your own colonial history).

Alas in the end, old dogs –especially sub intellectual ones– can’t learn new tricks. But, alas, old dogs will get older and die. Like your culture.

(Maybe you can sail that across the murder river to the thugs.)

Oct 12, 2008 - 1:15 pm 29. Will Becker:

It’s where we’re headed folks.Time to wake up!!

Oct 12, 2008 - 1:55 pm 30. David H:

fp you just as big an idiot as Sean,

“Americans have killed more humans through ‘murderous thuggery’ than everyone else put together. And in the name of a lot less rational thought through goals.”

What complete pap, your obviously the type of European that Americans are correct to despise and I as a European will join them in that, I despise you and your ilk.

I should point out that your comment simply appeals to your International Socialism…

Oct 12, 2008 - 2:27 pm 31. Sean:

I’m aware of colonial history, and I am not about to defend the worst of it - but this is the subject of another conversation.

And the holocaust happened; it is not “propaganda”; and the nazis you defend are the shit of humanity. You said: “Ironically I don’t even agree with a lot of German choices of that period.” That is reassuring.

Unfortunately, I have more work to do at the mine, so you’ll have to bid me ado. Hallelujah!

Oct 12, 2008 - 3:59 pm 32. fp:

>It’s where we’re headed folks.Time to wake up!!

Well you avoid that by being NOT intractable and explotive (of dingbat backwater moralists). Intractableness leads to ‘up against the wall’-ism.

You should have:
-advocated reproductive control (of idiots)

-control of female…
.childish unscrupulous tendencies
.descriminatiry hypcorisy
.other la femme mystique character shortcomings

-prevented single fem parent

-limited Balkinization (rather than just helping the weaker migrants win)

-deconstructed the anti darwinist/anti intellectual (ultimately, anti enlightenment) tendencies of the american cultists rather than hiding behind their nonsense “morality” exploitively.

-not engaged in hypocrisy– one generation advocating level caste then the next adovcating capitalist noveu riche royals. (That goes for the jew ‘communists’ too: one generation communist agitators, the next billionair owners of the hamptons and Hollywood hills.)

These and other things would have defused the trend before the “beast reawakend”.

…And why would a ‘conservative’ be unhappy with the collapse of the liberal, feminist West (with its “whites as minority” trend predictied in 30-50 years)?

Thats all part of the problem that breeds rightist “extremism”.

Oct 12, 2008 - 4:03 pm 33. David H:

I get the sense when reading some of these comments that you are trying to place the USA’s own battle grounds and battle lines on the situation in Europe. I keep thinking that fp is a Kosite while Sean looks like a LGF’ite. I could be wrong though.

fp are you an American, you hate your America just as much as I hate what Europe has become, shall we swap countries/continents?

Oct 13, 2008 - 1:49 am 34. Die 3-er Achse des Bösen » Gegenstimme:

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Oct 13, 2008 - 2:58 pm 35. deguello:

What a wonderful triumph for multiculturalism and diversity!Perhaps we will we a similar alliance Post-Obama,in the U$A;I can see it now:the grand colossal kleagles of the KKK, Us Nazis, Farrakhan,CAIR and HANAS and others who can point out the jews role in the finncial debacle,and incite an incresingly moroiccountry to another Auschwitz.Ain’t Multiculuralism wonderful? let’s all hold hands an sing “cumbaya’ as the synagogues burn!Wait till the Ohole opens up the gates to more Muslim immigration!

Oct 13, 2008 - 3:28 pm 36. David H:

deguello, well that is what is expected of us Europeans in that progressive paradise called currently called Europe…

Oct 14, 2008 - 4:06 am 37. deguello:

David H. What part of Eurabia are you from?What contingency plans(if any ) do healthy,sane Europeans have for resisting this menace? In the U$A we have ,for now, the second amendment. Best Wishes. Deguello

Oct 14, 2008 - 5:52 am 38. deguello:

FP: Interesting comments,This seems lifted from “Mein Kampf”.I didn’t know that one of the Goebbels children had survived,and was blogging in PM.

Oct 14, 2008 - 5:57 am 39. David H:

deguelle, thanks for the best wishes and I wish you well to. You have the second amendment, we do not, I am sure that this will be attacked by the progressives like it was in the UK and Europe. I am a Brit living in France by the way.

Currently we are not resisting this menace, I think people are refusing to face up to it, some of my familly will no longer talk to me because they no longer want to face up to this, and that they are helpless to do anything but watch in anger and frustration, so they evade the issues. Some brave people are standing up but they are marginalised, by being tarred as extreme right-wing or Neo Nazi’s and soon we will see so called hate laws used to shut them up legally based on being offended…

One moment I decide to stay, another leave, my wife and I have had a number of discussions on it and have decided that should it continue like it is now then in 2015 we will leave Europe. I do not think we can leave it much later than that, capital contrals will be placed on people like me and of course the European economy will start sinking faster as more productive people emmigrate. My other option is to pick an area which does not have a very high Muslim demographic and hope that when the wheels fall off there are enough young able bodied non-muslims to hold them off, I would also try to buy a place that could be easily defended, but getting weapons, not a chance.

We are caught between the International Socialist world order known as the EU and the Islamic demographic takeover, both are as bad as each other. Brits are emmigrating to the USA, Australia and New Zealand, some to Canada, other Europeans to the USA like the Dutch and Germans, but as Obama is showing no place is free from both afflications, so I guess I am to a point that I want to find or gain the means to defend me and my familly and wait for it all to explode, its not a very nice feeling watching a veneer of normality on what is really a dire and worsening situation.

I suppose in a strategic sense, I am waiting for someone to kill me and my family, to be honest I have lost all hope for Europe, both me and my wife think that the demographics in Europe means it is already too late, she sees the people in the age of 20 to 35 in France which are like a load of spoilt children expecting wealth and fortune to smile on them, while more and more Muslims arrive in her company and she notices their arrogance more and more. She used to disbelieve what I said until she became personally aware of it.

Sorry to be so depressing about it, but Europe is run by appeasors, Sarkozy is running around saying how wonderful Islam is and lets have a union of the Med, frightening, he is already putting into place a classic socialist law on peoples investments to pay moeny to the under class… I want to get out, but sort of sit here thinking perhaps someone will start seeing it and take at least a few baby steps, but no, they come out with the same rubbish as before, in fact worse than before.

You cannot stay sane or healthy here, I guess the only thing left is to leave, but it is so difficult to do that.

Oct 14, 2008 - 7:13 am 40. Richter:

I will try to clarify something.

The only accepted ideology in Germany (and Europe) is anti-racism. This ideology is nothing more than
the decline of “The West”. Check out Frantz Fannon, the innovater of anti-racism. Nontheless the Left (from the black-block to the pastors and the unions) suggests that Germany is on the brink of racist abyss.
Which is not only untrue, but ideology driven perception of the situation.
Only a buch of guys in europe is really opposing all the barbaric ideologys from nazism to islamism.

In fact the Nazis (not only in Germany) debated, if the jihadis are enemys, allies or competitors. And the
are still not at one. Not even in Belgium, which is on the verge of to fall apart. Thank islamists and Vlaams
Belang nazis.

And, yes. Pro-Cologne (Pro-Köln) is a nazi movement. There decline of islam is mostly driven by hatred of the
foreign. They are not the defenders of civilization and the Enlightenment. Neither Pro-Köln (and other nazis) nor the anti-racists have ever fought for the liberation of the individual. Instead they both fought against the dream of free individuals in favor of culture, collective or germandom and folklore. The similarity of anti-racism and good-ol`-german Nazis is evident. The Ditib of course is beside oneself joy.

Decidedly the best in Germany is the constitution enforced by America. But America failed to widen the denazification after Germany surrendered. Europe is still a refuge of anti-Semitism and all its barbaric
implications. Otherwise islam would not be anything to care about.

Again, Germany is in the front line of the global war against America.
Trust the Germans!

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Oct 14, 2008 - 10:15 am 42. David H:

Clarify something? You seem extremely confused to me, for one you seem to miss the fact that Belgium is an artificial construct and that there are two groups of people, the Walloons and the Flemish, the Walloons who are French speaking are addicted to welfare and the Flemish are fed up with paying the bills. The only Neo Nazis were the fascists who banned the VB for a faked charge of racism.

In terms of Pro-Cologne, there were some people who I would be uncomfortable with, but the majority are people like me. The Fascists were the black clad and hooded people who blocked the lawful right to hold a rally with violence and the threat of violence, the real fascist was the mayor of Cologne for calling for this fascists to block this rally. So who was it who beat up a French Jew breaking his ribs, well it was not the Pro-Cologne movement…

The Germans are caught between their relationships to the east and their western connections, I think the USA in terms of Germany should always remember that.

Oct 14, 2008 - 10:55 pm 43. kate b:

This is happening all over the place. Why can’t anyone see that wherever Islam goes the moderate Muslim’s cause is never heard, only the ‘far left’ as it were. The cause is anti-semitism, always has been, the religion of Allah against the unchanging eternal truth of the Bible.

In fact, moderate muslims read the dead sea scrolls, proven to vindicate the scriptures, this is what’s holding you back, you’re always saying that they’ve been altered, you can’t use this excuse any more - the prophet (apart from having G*d’s reputation ie name, must be an Israelite, speak G*d’s words) MUST prophecy things, predictions are not prophecies e.g. more redundancies, house prices will fall further, crime will increase, health will deteriorate……these aren’t prophecies but predictions.

Racism? It only goes one way in the UK, and it’s not towards the indigenous peoples and our culture (whatever colour we are).

Oct 15, 2008 - 2:47 am 44. David H:

Racism, I had a lovely debate with some French lefties about black atheletes ebing superior in sprints, and the higher average IQ of Asians, when they agreed with me on these facts I then called them racists, in fact using the Oxford Dictionary they are racists, it was getting my own back for them refering to me as a racist over my attitude towards Islam.

I then asked them if it was unfair, they said yes and I then hit them with Islam is not a race but an ideology, by calling me a racist they are accepting Islam is a tool of Arab supremacy and therefore they are racist for thinking that. Again, I had them stumped. Sometimes its just too damn easy…

Oct 15, 2008 - 7:34 am 45. Richter:

Thanks for the coming-out David H.

“Belgium is an artifical construct.” - Which state is no artifical construct? All countries are made by human beings. No state is inartifical. Your explanations about Belgium proof, that you think in terms of ethnic groups,
collectives and culture. This is by no means the position of the civilized west. You are an old european. Every
one else can easily become aware of what Vlaams Belang ideology means.

I have wrote about the insanity of the majority, yet. But it is perfectly judicious to fight nazis. The use of
force without sentimentality is an obligation. This is true for all nazis: The brown-nazis (ie. Pro-Köln), the
red-nazis (more an more leftists) AND the green-nazis (islamists). I do not want to relativize the original
nazis. But the brown, red and green ideology is becoming increasingly ugly and similar to the original.

Well, Pro-Kön differs eminent from other brown nazis. The Dehoust-guys are inspired by christianity. They fight a crusade; not against the Jews - for now. They are friends of israel, because it is the “holy land”, not by rational means. There goal is to create a christian german collective. They will never stand up for a civilzed nation.

Germany is not caught up in any relation. Germany goes the third-way, the German-way. Germany is supporting Iran,
Hizbullah and Hamas and it is “fighting” in Afghanistan, while working on the strategic-partnership with Moscow.

The last seven years have proven that anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism is still the best way to mobilize the mass of Europeans. Otherwise islam would not be anything to care about.

Oct 15, 2008 - 8:24 am 46. NatDT:

The simple fact here is that NO religion has the right to force themselves upon others.
I hate to say it but the USA’s glory days are over, it looks set to begin a slow decline into socialist-driven destruction (looks like the soviets won the cold-war after all.)

As for europe, it will likely begin moving away from the USA; probably towards Russia.
There are already signs of a growing nationist cause right across europe that is amplified with ever terror attack.
Addionally unlike the USA, Europe has a long history that could never be wiped away (short of a major catacisylism) no matter how much the socialists want it to.

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Oct 19, 2008 - 4:05 pm 49. David H:

Richter, ahh a label, makes it easier to define me, but what you fail to work out from my comment is that it was Britain who created Belgium, and that the Flemish people are sick and tired of paying for the French speaking part of Belgium that does not have the same work ethic. There is certainly an ethnic issue, but I think that the economic issue is the most important. I happen to believe that a state can be made up of various groups, however they have to have a commonality or Demos, and that is no longer the case with Belgium and certainly not the case with the EU.

If we look at the history of Germany you will see that Prussia created Germany, Germany had suffered badly during the 1800’s and the defeat of France by Prussia in 1871 was an important step.

You have a truly odd view of things, the issue with Iran, it just comes down to money, Germany is a major exporter to Iran, your so called third way is nothing more than greed for the folding stuff.

Germany has no common ground with Iran, I certainly do not feel that the Nazi hatred of the Jews and the Islamic hatred of Jews is common ground and I would reject that, there is no difference between the Green Nazi’s, the Red Nazi’s and the Brown Nazi’s, the politics have moved on to a simple distinction, anti-democratic vs democrats or people who believe in liberty. Your failure is to smear all of the Pro-Koln as Nazi’s without realising that many of the people who are protesting against Islam are decent people who want democracy and rights and see Islam as a direct threat to that.

Oct 21, 2008 - 12:31 am 50. Hitler and Jihad (Part 1):

[...] recent report (summarized in translation here) by the Hamburg intelligence service —the Office for the Protection of the Constitution [...]

Oct 22, 2008 - 1:45 pm 51. Front Page Magazine: Hitler and Jihad:

[...] recent report (summarized in translation here) by the Hamburg intelligence service —the Office for the Protection of the Constitution [...]

Oct 26, 2008 - 2:00 am 52. Kejda Gjermani » JihadwatchWatch: Robert Spencer’s amorous flirt with European Fascism:

[...] Heinz-Christian Strache of The Freedom Party, and with Jean-Marie Le Pen, because they too are opposed by some hard core neo-Nazis on the grounds of going after Muslims rather than [...]

Nov 6, 2008 - 9:02 pm 53. JihadwatchWatch: Robert Spencer’s amorous flirt with European Fascism « Kejda Gjermani:

[...] Heinz-Christian Strache of The Freedom Party, and with Jean-Marie Le Pen, because they too are opposed by some hard core neo-Nazis on the grounds of going after Muslims rather than [...]

Nov 6, 2008 - 10:20 pm 54. Neonazis alemanes: “vemos al Islam, globalmente considerado, como un aliado frente al dominio financiero judeoamericano” | La Yijad en Eurabia:

[...] Congress” was banned by Cologne municipal authorities, the North German Action Office elucidated its solidarity with the global [...]

Nov 12, 2008 - 5:59 am 55. Fjordman’s Book: “Defeating Eurabia”, Part 3 « Islamophobes United:

[...] October 2008, John Rosenthal published an essay revealing that “When protesters in Cologne last month managed, with the blessing of the city [...]

Feb 19, 2009 - 3:26 pm 56. The Editrix:

I noticed that Robert Spencer quoted this entry today as a sort of character reference and as proof that he is not lying with the pigs when he is speaking at the upcoming “Pro-Köln” event.

This is not a new entry. Do you still think that Pro-Köln is above board on the strength that some Neo-Nazi groups speak up against them?

I have blogged about it here:
http://editrixblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-americans-seem-to-be-unable-to.html

Apr 25, 2009 - 2:45 pm 57. SteveM:

Sean

“On one hand, we have the neo-nazis described in this article who see Jews, followed by the islamists, as their biggest threat.”

Which article did you read, Sean? A different one from the rest of us I think.

“On the other hand, we have the anti-islamists who recognize the islamists as their greatest threat. They are still paranoid of Jews, but the more immediate threat of islamism is their highest priority.”

The only person I see around here with a Jewish obsession is you. And you have that left-wing mind-reading trick down pat as well.

Apr 28, 2009 - 9:07 am 58. SteveM:

“And, yes. Pro-Cologne (Pro-Köln) is a nazi movement. There decline of islam is mostly driven by hatred of the foreign. They are not the defenders of civilization and the Enlightenment. Neither Pro-Köln (and other nazis) nor the anti-racists have ever fought for the liberation of the individual.”

I get the impression that quite a few people posting here think that “nazi” means “whatever I don’t like”. The “liberation of the individua”, whatever that means, is not an anti-nazi cause, and opposition to it is not a nazi cause. “Hatred of the foreign” is also not a synomyn for “nazi”.

Communication works better if all the parties involved understand the meanings of the words being used.

Apr 28, 2009 - 9:20 am 59. The Spanish and the Portuguese — Once and Future Dhimmis? « Defeating Eurabia:

[...] October 2008, John Rosenthal published an

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