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1. David H:

Oh dear, the real extremists are left to get away with it yet again, actually this type of footage helps me a lot, it makes me not give a damn about the future for Europe, frankly this lot deserve to come under the rule of Islam…

Nov 18, 2008 - 1:44 am 2. Erik:

Does it strike anyone else as ironic that “Der Spiegel” is reporting on this chaos? It’s pretty much an undeniably left bent, populist rag which seems to relish the thought of capitalism in a shambles. See Soeren Kern’s PJM article: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/financial-crisis-sparks-anti-american-fervor-in-europe/
These kids are likely a product of the culture they have nurtured. This certainly seems to support Jonah Goldgerg’s hypothesis that facism stems from leftist ideologies. The other irony is that they trashed a public university. Genius. Where shall they get their socialist indoctrination now? Oh, that’s right… Der Spiegel. The circle is complete.

Nov 18, 2008 - 1:58 am 3. Who’s killing the children? « Mark Epstein:

[...] I’m sure this post is being recorded on “the chart.” Oh, and watch out Jews, Kristallnacht 2 is previewing in a country near [...]

Nov 18, 2008 - 2:56 am 4. DoktorNo:

When I was studing in Germany, I was frequently going to Sozialwissenshaft Bibliothek (Social Studies Library) of this university, just near the Friedrich Str. rail station.

What was the most striking, were the far-left organisations’ leflets and advertisments hanging on pinboards and walls.

Nov 18, 2008 - 3:06 am 5. Linda:

David H. is right…I see the 1940’s rising again!

Nov 18, 2008 - 4:31 am 6. Matthew O'Brian:

But I thought Germany was supposed to be one of those hip, cool, metropolitan, and progressive European countries that the United States should try to be like. At least that’s what the America-hating leftists here keep yammering about.

Nov 18, 2008 - 5:12 am 7. Cato:

For those who don’t remember…

1. Deutschland erwache aus deinem bösen Traum!
Gib fremden Juden in deinem Reich nicht Raum!
|: Wir wollen kämpfen für dein Auferstehn!
Arisches Blut soll nicht untergehn!

2. All diese Heuchler, wir werfen sie hinaus,
Juda entweiche aus unserm deutschen Haus!
|: Ist erst die Scholle gesäubert und rein,
Werden wir einig und glücklich sein!

3. Wir sind die Kämpfer der N.S.D.A.P.:
Treudeutsch im Herzen, im Kampfe fest und zäh.
|: Dem Hakenkreuze ergeben sind wir.
Heil unserm Führer, Heil Hitler dir!

Nov 18, 2008 - 5:21 am 8. HardHeadedWoman:

Ah yes, the brilliant, sophisticated Europeans at work. It just warms the cockles of my heart knowing that we are going to be just like them.

Nov 18, 2008 - 5:29 am 9. Susan Says:

Is this what Obama had in mind when he wanted us to be more like Europe? If so he’s getting his wish already! Does this strike anyone as being similar to our own home grown lunatics who are rioting over the nixing of Prop 8? Just a thought. So much violence coming out of unfulfilled agendas. Frightening.

Nov 18, 2008 - 7:25 am 10. Red Badger:

“Students”?………….I wonder what their names were?……Mohammed? Abdul? Heinrich?…nah…..On a side note: I visited a university in Berlin a couple of years ago. It was a nasty, filthy place. And there were no “protests” going on then…….

Nov 18, 2008 - 7:33 am 11. james wilson:

And where are the Jews as the left-fascism rises? Why, trying to hide deep inside it.

Nov 18, 2008 - 7:55 am 12. visceral:

Very odd. I was just reading about the holocaust.
This article fully supports what I have to say about it, though.

Nov 18, 2008 - 7:57 am 13. Saltherring:

I have yet to understand why American Jews vote overwhelmingly for a political party (Democrat) that hates capitalism, the very source of Jewish wealth? The Jews will sadly be among the first to experience the footprint of America’s jackbooted Obama youth. Mormons, Catholics and Protestants will join them in the crosshairs, as leftist thugs lash out against all that is decent and moral. Politically correct police departments and “good people” will stand and watch, as the German people did in the early 1930’s, when Hitler’s Brown Shirts silenced any and all opposition. The Obama Youth, coming to a city near you.

Nov 18, 2008 - 8:21 am 14. “German Students Lay Waste to Holocaust Exhibit”:

[...] John Rosenthal, PJM: Last Wednesday, hundreds, if not thousands, of students ostensibly protesting poor conditions in [...]

Nov 18, 2008 - 9:12 am 15. robotech master:

This is an very important point that never can be said enough…

“anti-capitalist” sentiment and anti-Semitic resentments tend in Germany to go hand-in-hand. They were already indeed inseparable elements of Nazi ideology”

NAZI’s didn’t hate jews because they were jews they hated them because they viewed them as something far more evil…. capitalists. If you study history you will see the insults and views of the evilness of jews are the same used today in attacking capitalists. Whenever someone ppl like obama/biden, reid and a host of other talk about the “greed” and “evil” of capitalism it is classic right out of NAZI hand books. If the phases they use are almost direct quotes sometimes. I also find it sad how poorly educated ppl are today. Every time I stray to some other pages I see ppl heavily confusing nazism(aka socialism) with capitalism. I also fun it both sad and funny at the same time that capitalist are to blame for the current econ when clearly the cause of the problem is a few nazism programs(ie sub-prime) that caused the whole mess.

Nov 18, 2008 - 9:39 am 16. Windingstad:

It should come to no surprise to anyone that Berlin is a “red” city.

It is not, however, an antisemitic one. Neither are German Universities antisemitic, like they once were. I can assure you that the wast majority of German students are very hostile to antisemitism in general and the destruction of this exhibiton specifically.

The one commenter above who think that it is “ironic” when Der Spiegel reports on antisemitic activities does not know anything about todays Germany. As for some of the other comments, connecting the current socialism with Nazism: Read up. You should know more when you comment on complicated matters. Just get off pajamasmedia and read a book instead.

Nov 18, 2008 - 10:05 am 17. myth buster:

The only difference between a fascist and a socialist is that the fascist confiscates private property to support the military-industrial complex, while the socialist confiscates it to get and keep the masses hooked on the the public teat.

Nov 18, 2008 - 11:22 am 18. Donna:

Vicious Antisemitism has long been staple chic wherever the Left congregates.Europe is an excellent example.Only Obama and his moonies could look at it with admiration

Nov 18, 2008 - 11:26 am 19. Thomas:

myth buster

Not exactly: Fascists maintained the concept of private property under the control of the original (Aryan) owners. However the Production was to put under full State control to support the State’s goals.
The socialists abolished the private properties and persecuted the owners as “class aliens”: the nationalized factories were under the directions of politically loyal “cadres” who lacked basic education.

The Fascist industries worked well in Germany while the socialist URSS collapsed economically.

Nov 18, 2008 - 11:50 am 20. John Rosenthal:

Erik is entirely correct to point out the irony of precisely der Spiegel reporting on the “anti-capitalist” students running amok. See the cover image on the current issue of der Spiegel here: http://service.spiegel.de/digas/servlet/epaper?Q=SP&JG=2008&AG=47&SE=1&AN=TITELBILDGROSS

The headline is a play on words: “Das Kapitalverbrechen”, which means “the capital crime,” but with the obvious implication here of “the capital*ist* crime.” For der Spiegel, the crisis is not just a crisis, it’s a “crime,” and the dollar bill is all most Spiegel readers will need to see in order to “know” who is the perpetrator. I’ll leave it to others (perhaps Windingstad?) to interpret just what the bullet passing through George Washington’s head is supposed to mean.

Nov 18, 2008 - 12:34 pm 21. C'Ana:

Seems to me that the jew’s are playing both side’s of the fence as they alway’s do. Like they did in nazi germany/russia, to precipitate the war. A well planned operation, the jew’s ruling family’s have no problems with eliminating their own through proxy’s, to get what they want, and destroy white nation’s at the same time.

When are the white nations going to wake up, and realize that their doing the same thing all over again in America, to destroy white America, and replace it with the anarcy of socialist communism useing religion/minority’s to do it.

If it is’nt stopped, there will be no white nations left. I hope whats left of the white nations form an alliance, to save what’s left of their lands from being stolen by the jew’s and their minority’s. As they have been gradually doing through their thralls, the white christians who destroy their own for the lie’s of religious belief’s/faith. All from the jew’s.

Let’s not forget they are useing islam as well, to accomplish what they want. I hope the world explodes, so they fail in their agenda’s against the white nation’s. Real soon to.

Nov 18, 2008 - 12:37 pm 22. Saltherring:

C’Ana:

Ever hear of the terms ‘plural’ and ‘possessive’? In an English textbook near you…….

Nov 18, 2008 - 1:26 pm 23. C'Ana:

If your making remarks about my spelling, i freely admit i don’t spell very well, but spelling by no means denotes intelligence.

But if you mean by plural that the jew’s are playing all the sides against one another, and by possessive they think they own the world, then i would have to agree with you.

I don’t get on well with intellectuals, as they never can see past the details they immerse themselves in, and call what is, without ever realizing it has already passed them by.

Nov 18, 2008 - 2:14 pm 24. HT:

…and to think that Americans actually died so that these anti-semitic bastards could grow up and start their crap all over again.

Patton was right.

Nov 18, 2008 - 5:33 pm 25. Donna V.:

Anti-semites have to be the worst examples of “the white race” I can think of. Talk about playing the race card! They cling to the idea of “white supremacy” because white skin is the only advantage they have and it isn’t an advantage anymore. They certainly aren’t going to make it on brains or talent. The C’anas of this world are clearly jealous because Jews tend to be successful professionals (and most of them spell better than C’ana too.)

That said, I too wonder why so many Jews are blind to the threats posed by the left. Nobody with an I.Q over 80 takes someone like C’ana seriously, but anti-Zionism is as prevalent on the left as it is on the nutty right and yet the Jews I know (all of whom look pretty damn white to me – one is a redhead with freckles) act like Palin is a bigger threat to their existence than radical Islam is.

Nov 18, 2008 - 5:59 pm 26. Wanderer:

Europe morally, socially, economically, intellectually, and culturally has been for more than a century drinking so deeply at the fountainhead of degenerate ideologies of socialism, marxism, and fascism and is so arrogantly self-assured of its superiority that it has irreversibly launched itself onto a path of self-immolation.
The class envy based socialist welfare states” Europe has spawned can not be sustained as they race at an ever accelerating speed into demographic, technological,and economic decline. European elites and activists are so deep into slathering in the septic pit that they label the EU and their all encompassing hubris tht they can not grasp the reality that they no longer matter on the world stage. As the European beast nears death all the ugly pathological antics of its past such as anti-semitism, genocide, and vile hate will ooze forth from the wounded beast as it tries to cling to life before it is slain by Islamism’s seizure of its territory. The leftist’s current resurrection of Jew hatred and the European public’s eternal addiction to anti-semitism is the bellowing of a very dangerous but fatally wounded animal.

Nov 18, 2008 - 6:16 pm 27. Thomas:

Donna V

“”Anti-semites have to be the worst examples of “the white race” I can think of. Talk about playing the race card!”"

Who plays the race card?- darling? From Wiki:

“Noel Ignatiev is an American history professor at the Massachusetts College of Art best known for his call to “abolish” the white race.
Ignatiev’s parents were (Jewish) immigrants from Russia.

C’Ana correctly sees what you don’t want to.

Nov 18, 2008 - 6:27 pm 28. Jason Sieckmann:

Yes, Nazism is alive and well in many parts of the world to this day. The same way that young Japanese students portray Hirohito as a great man that was forced to surrender his samurai spirit; the Germans never got over how successful Hitler was versus the pawn they are for western interests in the new world.

Of course, Hitler was just a right wing socialist; not unlike many of our current right wing socialists. Defined by what? Surrendering parts of the state that shouldn’t exist in the first place to private corporations. Things like Social Security.

Parallels abound my friend. Oh left is Stalin too. Democrats= very Stalin.

Nov 18, 2008 - 6:27 pm 29. Donna V.:

I see the lunatics have come out.

Nov 18, 2008 - 7:34 pm 30. C'Ana:

Look who is talking donna v, the zest of your zionism makes you the lunatic.

I’ll have you know my iq, despite my spelling is in the mid 180’s, not 80.

You are rude, and you write without thoughts that are your own, you are programmed.

You are an internet troll. Goodday, and Goodbye.

Nov 18, 2008 - 8:07 pm 31. Saltherring:

Donna V @ 29:

Yes, and Europe’s lunatics no longer need to slither alone in the darkness, for America turned off its lights on November 4th.

Nov 18, 2008 - 9:45 pm 32. Skandalos:

@Windingstad

Youre not telling any truth here.

Antisemitism is highly popular in today’s Germany, and not only with the far right or far left. Today’s antisemitism hides behind the term Israel criticism which however comes in no way less irrational or less hateful than the classical antisemitism of the medieval mobs or the nazi mobs.

The German media keep feeding this new antisemitism with a constant stream of one-sided and cliche-whoring coverage of the whole middle-east stuff. Israel is always, with no single exception shown as brutal soldiers and invincible tanks, while its opponents never play any other role as the innocent and helpless victims. The majority of Germans wants to see such crap, they wouldnt buy the papers or watch TV without it, and they want it because they crave for a reason to hate.

If there were no Jews or Israeli, the German media would invent them.

Nov 19, 2008 - 3:31 am 33. Windingstad:

Look, there’s no doubt that Der Spiegel have some (in my opinion disturbingly) left leaning tendencies. But it’s not like it’s a communist party phamphlet. It’s neither a surprise, nor ironic, that they report on these protests, especially when you consider that their main focus was destruction of the Holocaust exhibition. For that to become ironic you would somehow make the connection that “Der Spiegel is leftist, hence they are connected to Nazi-Germany, hence their reporting on this is ironic”.

I don’t accuse Rosenthal for implying this, but a whole lot of the commenters here sure do. It’s silly. Even though I have to agree that popular antisemitism today is probably more common on the political left, the connection to Nazi Germany is dubious. On the contrary, Nazi Germany rose to power on their hatred for the “jewis, socialist weimar republic”. Most Jews were leftists, most avid antisemites belonged to the right. Although socialists antisemits existed, and Marx didn’t like jews, the socialist parties in Europe generally supported jewish emancipation. And far more so than most of their political contenders.

There’s certainly some truth to the claim that Hitler’s National Socialism have some common features with socialist ideology. But it is very unfair, and historically incorrect, to connect these young left leaning Germans to Nazism.

Nov 19, 2008 - 3:38 am 34. Erik:

To Windingstad: The crux of my post was addressing the anti-capitalist foundation for the protest, not explicitly the anti-Semitism. I believe that the anti-Semitism is an important feature of this madness but no doubt an exhibit about American soldiers in WWII would have been subject to the same treatment. The main thing is the need for a scapegoat… something other than what “we (insert your group)” are… an evil to be eliminated. This is a very dangerous position to take because the greater evil usually ends up being perpetrated the accuser. I assume you are German considering you spelled “vast” with a “w” which isn’t really that close to a “v” on the keyboard. Just as you suggest that I don’t delve into the complexities of the situation I will in turn suggest that you (Germans) have failed to learn from the very simple and clear examples of socialism gone bad. In this way it does surprise me that Berlin is a “red” city considering your own experience. In my experience (I know more about Germans than you would like to believe) Europeans in general are hostile to a disambiguation of “anti-Semitism” but still regard Israel as one of the main propagators of evil in the world. In the context of emotional outbursts void of rational though it’s a short leap from Israel=Evil, Jews=Israel, Jews=Evil. I don’t like everything that Israel does but I do support their existence. In reality it may have been more appropriate to carve out a portion of Germany or Europe for the Jewish state after WWII but that likely would have been even more problematic.
As for telling me to “read a book instead”… didn’t I use a book as an example!?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
Perhaps it wasn’t “the right book.”

Nov 19, 2008 - 4:11 am 35. Saltherring:

C’Ana @ 30 states:

“I’ll have you know my iq, despite my spelling is in the mid 180’s, not 80.”

May the record note that C’Ana’s math may be as creative as her English.

Nov 19, 2008 - 7:22 am 36. trangbang68:

Really C’Ana’s iq is in the 180’s . Yeah and I’m the Queen of Prussia. That another Nazi quickly crawled out from under a rock (I’m talking about you, Tommie Goebbels) is pretty amazing. They lurk, drooling in white rage over “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” until they have a stroke and their brain explodes. And the sane who remain will say “Good riddance to bad rubbish” as they bow before the Fuhrer in Hell.

Nov 19, 2008 - 7:45 am 37. The Wizard:

We should never, ever forget what was done to the Jews, Polish, Russians and other German minorities during WWII. Thank God for Eisenhower. He had the horror documented with thousands of photos and film, to assure that there was proof for ever and always.

My fear is the apathy level is so high around the world, including America, that no one cares, and this hate will spread again.

Nov 19, 2008 - 8:27 am 38. trangbang68:

P.S. C’Ana, i.q. doesn’t stand for idiot quotient.

Nov 19, 2008 - 8:28 am 39. Thomas:

There is a faulty and unsubstantiated attempt worldwide to conflate the Diaspora (Galut) Jews with the State of Israel; Chinatown or Little Tokyo are not part of China nor Japan even though they have strong cultural bonds between them. Diaspora Jews neither speak nor write Hebrew as their mother tongue, except for the Orthodoxy.

The article tackles German events, that is, the Diaspora Jews, therefore bringing up Israel into this dialog is digression into irrelevant details from the gist of matter; let’s cut out Israel from this discussion.

There is a unique dichotomy which afflicts the Jews, namely their ability to hold and practice two, mutually exclusive ideas simultaneously: they are the most ardent purveyors of Capitalism and the most militant advocates of Communism: most radical Communist front groups are financed by Jewish capitalist.

I am of Eastern European descent thus I have a good understanding of the subject: for one side, the Jewish role in Bolshevism is the fuel for the pent up hate; the other side resents the Jewish Capitalism AND Judaism as religion. Hence religious Jews were deported to Siberia to the infamous Birobidjan by Stalin’s Jews.

Since Europe is in the process of dismantling the Nation-States in favor of the Multiculturalism the mere existence of a homogeneous State like Israel is an anathema: the EU is hell bent on Israel’s destruction.

Nov 19, 2008 - 9:00 am 40. C'Ana:

Well, i’m not going to argue with any of you, it seems you who insult so easily seem to believe in the delusional fantasy’s of what it is that describes intelligence, namely what your told, and what is written down for your own programing. I’d say get a life, but in order to do that, you would need to have your own mind’s.

Way to go Thomas, slay them with facts, but really, they have made up their own, so i’ll go somewhere there are rational people to converse with, people who think for themselves. Way to go Thomas, bye now.

Nov 19, 2008 - 10:40 am 41. fnt:

It should be added that the largest Jewish organization in Germany (ZdJ) always defends leftist extremists but attacks conservatives every chance they get. This incident was downplayed, too, because the protesters were anti-, not pro-German.

Nov 19, 2008 - 1:31 pm 42. Saltherring:

C’Ana,

Bye, and don’t forget to take your anti-Semitism with you. And while you’re at it, you may as well take your apostrophes too.

Nov 19, 2008 - 2:08 pm 43. trangbang68:

As C’Ana heads for the Bunker under the Reichstag, calm comes back to the Pajamas Media.

Nov 19, 2008 - 3:09 pm 44. C'Ana:

A quick question before i go Saltherring, why are you anti-white, and really, all i did was point out true information, and then you attacked me by charging anti-semitism, i did’nt degrade any of them, i pointed out actual historical information, and why can’t a white person defend his own people by writing such information to begin with?

As for Trang, your just pathetic.

Nov 19, 2008 - 5:41 pm 45. Saltherring:

C’Ana,

Your vague rantings condemning the Jews for starting World War II are utter nonsense. Are you insane? Hitler alone exterminated 6 million Jews during that war, and God knows how many Stalin killed. Your secondary claim that the Jews are “using Islam as well, to accomplish what they want.” is utter lunacy lunacy. The Jews have returned Gaza, the Sinai and Golan Heights, in the name of peace, to Islamic nations who tried to destroy Israel.

I do not understand why American Jews vote for Democrats, but that is their privilege

Are you a Nazi? You should find some other books to read, as Mein Kampf is making you paranoid, like Hitler.

Also, I am fair-skinned, blonde-haired and blue-eyed, but am no white supremist like you.

Nov 19, 2008 - 8:13 pm 46. Donna V.:

“Noel Ignatiev is an American history professor at the Massachusetts College of Art best known for his call to “abolish” the white race.
Ignatiev’s parents were (Jewish) immigrants from Russia.

So the crackpot opinions of some lefty schmuck are supposed to be evidence of a Zionist plot? Obama’s friend Fr. what’s-his-name also rants and raves against the white race, and I don’t take his opinions as proof that the Vatican wants to abolish the white race. Some white losers believe what they read on “StormFront” but that doesn’t mean all us white gentiles are moronic nutjobs who buy into goofy conspiracy theories and specious racial theories.

Nov 19, 2008 - 9:20 pm 47. Jason S:

I have acquaintances in Britain who are overwhelmingly leftist and over the last 6-7 years or so they’ve all become ferociously anti-Semitic. They hate Jews, they hate Israel and they blame “Jewness” for all the world’s problems. Believe me, this is the direction the leftists in Europe are taking.

A hatred of capitalism often goes hand in hand with a hatred of Jews. Someone once told me that anticapitalism is rife on the Stormfront forum, so I went and checked it out – it’s true. They see capitalism as a problem of “Jewish greed”. They hate capitalism because it’s “wrecking our beautiful environment” (the Fatherland, of course).

Socialists and neo-fascists are so similar in their opinions sometimes it’s frightening. Europe is at risk of the rise of BOTH.

Nov 19, 2008 - 11:18 pm 48. Tom Lehrer:

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean
But that couldn’t happen again.
We taught them a lesson in 1918
And they’ve hardly bothered us since then.

Nov 20, 2008 - 4:17 am 49. Thomas:

Jason S:

Your post conveys the truth but truth amount to nothing to dedicated Leftist ideologues who are growing in number by the hour.

The trick is very simple: just keep kicking the dead horse —Fascism— to divert the people’s attention from the bloody terror what the Marxists instilled worldwide. How many death caused the Skinheads and how many killed by the Communist supporters of Guru Prof. Chomsky, a shill for the Khmer Rouge and Stalin, the child of a Hebrew scholar.

The total number of extremist BNP party members in Britain are about 12.000 – got it? – 12.000! these souls are the bogymen, yet Red Ken, the Commie ex-mayor of London is a beloved parliamentarian. The chief enemy of the “White Race” is the EU directorate, more precisely Sarko, who wants to combine the Arab world with Europe: it’s called the Mediterranean Initiative with Barcelona it’s center.

Europe, better known as Eurabia, is done for, Jews are more of Cultural- Historical relics of a bygone era than a political force, given their small numbers and zero political influence – beyond ethnic representation.

We are in the States in a different predicament which is about to unfold and portends grim outlook.

Nov 20, 2008 - 9:10 am 50. Marie Claude:

#26 wanderer,

did you taste that special “cervoise”, cuz seems your singing like Assurancetourix, a rattlesery that wants to rabble-rousering

merci, tout ne va pas si mal dans le meilleur des mondes

Nov 20, 2008 - 3:21 pm 51. C'Ana:

I am no nazi, but i don’t support the jews and their agendas. Nor am i a leftist. Your insulting me on purely your own opinion/beliefs of artificial history, because of the real facts revealed, mean nothing.

Go ahead, keep insulting me will you, your just showing your ignorence. Bye now, and really that. Your free to stain a male who you know absolutely nothing about. There, is that better moderater?

Nov 20, 2008 - 4:11 pm 52. Marie Claude:

Since Europe is in the process of dismantling the Nation-States in favor of the Multiculturalism the mere existence of a homogeneous State like Israel is an anathema: the EU is hell bent on Israel’s destruction.

what do you mean ?

I presume that you wanted to say “Eurabia”, Ok, that has been forecasted since quite a few years, I would say since 2000 it’s been emphasized, though, I don’t see that we are loosing our identity, since Ben Laden operates in the fatherlands of our immigrants, they don’t want that happening in their adoptive countries too, but become good citizens. Don’t recall the surburbs riots, they weren’t based on islam jihadism, but on idleness of uneducated gangs

Nov 20, 2008 - 5:03 pm 53. Thomas:

Marie Claude

Je crois que j’ai expliqué clairement ce que j’ai voulu dire:
In plain English: We are well informed about the promulgated goal of the EU and other plans as well:

“On 23 October 2007 Sarkozy invited all Mediterranean leaders to a summit in France to take place in June 2008 where they would “lay the foundations of a political, economic and cultural union founded on the principles of strict equality.” (Wiki)

The Sharia law is introduced in England, and in France:

“French President Nicolas Sarkozy called Arabic the “language of the future, of science and of modernity,” and expressed the hope that “more French people share in the language that expresses great civilizational and spiritual values.”

“We must invest in the Arabic language (because) to teach it symbolizes a moment of exchange, of openness and of tolerance, (and it) brings with it one of the oldest and most prestigious civilizations of the world. It is in France that we have the greatest number of persons of Arabic and Muslim origin. Islam is the second religion of France,” Sarkozy reminded his listeners.” (Brussels Journals)

You are ether ignorant of the EU stated goals, that is to eliminate the European nation-states and subordinate them to the unelected bureaucrats of Bruxelles (Brussels) or willfully try to mislead us.
Ca ne marche pas du tout.

Nov 20, 2008 - 7:10 pm 54. Marie Claude:

um, you don’t know how Sarkozy fonctions, he can say ne thing and the contrary, depends on the opportunities ; well in that case the mediterranean union is not a political union, but commercial’s ; learning the language that is practiced in these countries would be a tool to influence the spirits and promote our values

the problem that you have for most of the people across the pond, is that paranoia is driving you, you fear what you don’t know. We know the arab mentality for centuries, and are not afraid to deal with it

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:18 am 55. Thomas:

Marie Claude

You said: “is that paranoia is driving you, you fear what you don’t know.”

Please improve your grasp of English by memorizing Sec.o Def. Rumsfeld’s words:

“There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things we know we don’t know. But, there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we don’t know we don’t know.”

Question for you:
What the f*%# are you pontificating about on this American forum? Besides, France has no values, except surrendering and collaborating with the enemy.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:19 am 56. EG:

” Thomas,There is a unique dichotomy which afflicts the Jews, namely their ability to hold and practice two, mutually exclusive ideas simultaneously: they are the most ardent purveyors of Capitalism and the most militant advocates of Communism: most radical Communist front groups are financed by Jewish capitalist.”

No, it would seem to me that like any diverse group there are multiple opinions being held within it. You are using the differences and preverting them to your own views. We could certainly go amongst the French or the gremans and finds the same dichotomy.

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:12 am 57. Thomas:

EG:

I refuse to delve any further into this subject lest I will be banned or my opinion won’t be posted. I acknowledge I was criticizing a protected group of people who are beyond reproach and I am driven by malicious calumny; I might be a crypto skinhead causing great harm to those people “who must not be named”.

Leave it at that.

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:57 am 58. Marie Claude:

What the f*%# are you pontificating about on this American forum? Besides, France has no values, except surrendering and collaborating with the enemy.

response to you, it’s a f…g public place and Im glad you haven’t the power to discriminate who is not agreeing with your oriented and ignorant opinion, you don’t hold the keys to truthland

Im also going to tell you, if we had no value, you wouldn’t be so eager after us

and the surrending or collaborating thing is the anglo-saxon legend, that has been so well displayed by the MSM , cuz we weren’t your obedient foreign legion in a supposed legitimed crusade, get a clue, HISTORY has no preference

my pleasure LMAO

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:34 pm 59. Thomas:

Marie Claude

The question was not your right to post but WHAT are you talking about? What is your subject matter? I quoted Sarkozy’s own speech and you said he lied: he stated this publicly:

“lay the foundations of a political, economic and cultural union” (with the Arabic countries)

you said:
“well in that case the mediterranean union is not a political union, but commercial’s ” – so did Sarko lie?

What the hell are you talking about? What is your point?

Are you lecturing us Americans, that you know the Arabs-?

“We know the arab mentality for centuries, and are not afraid to deal with it”

Who the hell cares in the US whether the French knows or doesn’t know the Arab mentality: we had many very close encounter with the Arab mentality and we don’t need your pontification in this regard.

Also instead of propagating the Arabic language on this forum, you would do a good service for yourself if you’d spend more time on improving your grasp of English. Also learn more about Vichy and Laval.

(Puisque votre connaissance Anglaise est tres mal, presque incompréhensible, et c’est le moindre que l’on puisse vous dire.)

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:09 pm 60. Marie Claude:

um, your skill in french language isn’t better either

Sarkozy is the guy that has no rigid guidance for his policies, he advances ideas and if they don’t work, he forgets about them and tries another path, but active he is.

and you still read our policies through your perverted prism

of course we know better the Arabs, they are our proxy neighbours, plus our fellow Charles Martel stopped them in Poitiers in 732, and guess they left remains, some people have the name Sarazin, um, some shared DNA there ? goats, some cooking recepts, donkeys… architecture features in churches…

Also learn more about Vichy and Laval.

LMAO, who was the best supporter to them, your super president Roosvelt, until he has to acknoledge that the real power of France was De Gaulle, but your country had to experience a few attacks from the Germans before : merchandises ships sinkings, and Pearl Harbour…
so, if the Vichy government stayed that long, it’s because your administration founded that convenient and may-be more, because he HATED de Gaulle, also your country wasn’t ready to go at war in 1940

Nov 22, 2008 - 5:22 am 61. Judy, NYC:

tsk,tsk anti-semites. watch your mouths. you could get your tongues cut out. ouch.

there is always a stench that comes from jew haters. and they always try to cover it up with some sort of pseudo factual blab. like pouring perfume on something smelly. that is why they are so nauseating. what a stink.

Nov 24, 2008 - 4:20 pm 62. Joe Noory:

Marie Claude:

You mean like when they abandoned the Lebanese Christians in the 1970’s? Is that from knowing them better than anyone else? Puh-lease! They though that they could arrange an economic deal with the gulf! Nothing more!

Dec 15, 2008 - 11:04 am 63. The ‘Right-Wing Extremism’ Report and Europeanization « ACT Northern Virginia/Richmond/DC Metro Chapter. Dedicated to the Defense of our freedom from Islamic Ideology.:

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