LEVAVI: You live yesterday. I know enough Jews. They’re wonderful, most of them. And they like me. But I wouldn’t like to meet you as you hate me. I’ve done it, you know. As a ghost before birth. Focus on the present tense please, your country, what’s going on on campus, the rallies against Israel during the last war, Iran+Hamas+Hezbollah and their worldwide supporters and apologists. That would make more sense as your hate doesn’t wake up your dead relatives. It might turn you blind to the next six million possible dead.

…Levavi: This is german-bashing on a really low level, no other country in the world did answer to its crimes in the clear and painful way Germany did, even though the crimes had been indeed of a unique size. But neither Holocaustdenial nor fancy oneself as aryan is a majority-position in these days Germany and to portrait the position of the heirs of the nazis, the NPD, which is lucky if it gets 2% in an election as characterizing for the political state of Germany is nothing but caricaturing…

Absolutely true. I am German bashing. Shooting from the hip and crudely caricaturing. Germany has indeed, officially owned up, uniquely among nations, for its crimes . Unlike Austria and the German Churches, Catholic and Lutheran alike, who hypocritically claim victimhood by Hitler and weasel out of any responsibility. Hardly a minor detail and a testament to German honor.

I am a New York Jew who has never set foot in a Holocaust museum, here in the States or on visits to Israel. I haven’t read Elie Weisel’s “Night” and avoid holocaust literature. I find it emotionally upsetting and see no benefit in immersing myself in horror. I wonder at the enthusiasm of certain Jewish scholars for the subject. I remember my father, whose parents, siblings, uncles, aunts and cousins were murdered by Germans, alternating between ranting rage and sulking depression over Jews accepting compensation from the West German government.

The Holocaust was a uniquely monstrous historical event, but for reasons very different from those of holocaust deniers, I question the motives of those who obsess on it. The rabbis in their wisdom long ago limited Jewish national mourning for all the horrors visited on the Jews in history to one day a year on the ninth day of the Hebrew month of Ab. Holocaust Memorial Day is an innovation of secularist Jews without proper respect for rabbinical authority or Jewish tradition. I oppose the innovation and resent its installation in the Jewish calendar.

All that said, I reject the notion that Hitler entirely transformed the German people into something they were not before. I insist that Hitler was working fertile ground for his murderous program. Hitler sprang from the bosom of the German people as Jesus and Paul sprang from the bosom of the Jewish people.

My caricaturing of Germans is full of compliments compared to the ugly caricaturing of Jews in the German Passion Play. Jewish historians writing before Hitler was born remark on the special cruelty that distinguished German pogroms from pogroms elsewhere. Colonialism was a dismal enterprise but the British and even the French felt some higher mission and responsibility for the people they exploited. The British, especially, left those they colonized important gifts. The Germans left nothing and are remembered only for their brutality, worse even than that of King Leopold’s Belgians.

Here in New York and across America, the fall of the Berlin Wall was greeted with genuine and enthusiastic thanksgiving. But in the following weeks and months news reports dribbled in of West German resentment,mainly economic, toward their eastern brethren. It left Americans like me scratching our heads. If Germans aren’t charitable toward their own, who are they charitable to?

I don’t believe that Germans are inherently evil. But I do believe, pardon my descent to plain prejudice, that they are inclined to group thinking and pack behavior. That individual freedom, freedom of belief and expression are contrary to their natural inclination. That they bow reflexively to authority and are naturally more comfortable under authoritarian government. And yes, that they tend to be bullies and sore losers.

I’m painting with a broad brush, of course. I have had intimate friends and lovers who were Germans of unimpeachable character and good will. Were it that some Jews I know had such decency. In the general case, however, I believe my opinions are not entirely inaccurate.

And I would wager I’ve personally known more Germans in my life than those commenting here have known Jews.

Let us not forget the advantages of Islam:

So let us just recap on what we have learned about being a good little muslim, from Mohammed:

* Jihad is the first duty, the best in goodness
* The whole world must be converted
* Terror will make you victorious
* Allah will punish you if you don’t fight
* You must fight all infidels around you and be ruthless with them
* You may use any means at your disposal to fight
* You must kill anyone who leaves Islam or is not following the true path
* And if you are killed fighting, Allah will take you into paradise.

Conclusion

So it only takes a few minutes reading out of your busy life to understand that Islam is all about Jihad, killing the infidel, and bringing Islam to the whole world.

Of course, once you understand that, you can start to consider living under Sharia Law and experiencing the delights of 7th century living. There is the genital mutilation of young girls, child marriage and polygamy, concubines and raping infidel women, beheadings, honour killings, stoning women to death for adultery, cutting of hands and feet for minor offences, and of course, slavery. And don’t forget that music is banned as is wine! So if you like 7th century living like this, then Islam is for you!

Then one day you might just have doubts and understand that Allah is NOT the loving, all merciful, creator God that you thought he was. Let us hope it is not too late!

FDR, as well as the American and British war staffs concurred with Churchill and intentionally firebombed German civilians by day and by night. Breaking the will of the German people was an honestly and openly announced Allied war aim. Among the plans for postwar Germany was one that called for dismembering Germany, leveling German industry, forever disarming the Germans and reducing them all to farmers. (Roughly the plan the predatory Germans had for Russia.)

Churchill’s name on your tongue is a profanation. Churchill was a colossus for the ages. There was never a German born in all history worthy of cleaning Churchill’s boots. His opinion of Germans like his opinions on most subjects was considered and accurate.

So spare us the heavy sarcasm, Fnord, have a look in the mirror and stop whining. I’m not utterly stupid, Rosenthal is not ill informed and Tom Mix isn’t spouting nonsense.

Your differentiation between the Germans between 1933-1945 and Germans at all other times in history is intellectually dishonest. The Romans who were talented slavers and knew one piece of human flesh from another assigned their Germans slaves a martial role for a reason. They recognized that there is a large element of hound in the German nature.

A Goth or a Carthaginian might be equally fierce but he wasn’t as reliably loyal. Loyal to his Roman masters, that is. If the Hermann and the German savages on the other side of the Rhine were making trouble, an Etruscan didn’t have to dirty his hands putting them down. Hermann’s brother could be gotten up in Roman gear at the head of others of his kind in Roman uniform and accomplish the task quite nicely. If you think FDR wasn’t cognizant of Eisenhower’s ethnicity, Funny Nordic, you need a reality check.

Two thousand years later, the Stasi exploited this lowly aspect of the German character to its fullest. Was there ever such betrayal in all human history? Husbands and wives ratting each other out to the state police. Children and grandchildren ratting out parents and grandparents and vice verse. One out of every twelve “citizens” a police spy. Was ever a people and a society more rotten?

Finally to your confused notions of “conservatives,” “right-wingers,” “progressives,”“utopians,” “socialism, nationalism, fascism and crude biologism.” These are all abstractions that mean little in practical application. Was Jesus a radical or a conservative? Is the Pope who claims to represent him a radical or a conservative?

My venom spent, Fnord, a personal note: Both my parents spoke and read German. Two of my children speak and read German and one of them, a Bible scholar who teaches Hebrew Bible to Christian ministers is qualified by her university in Old German as well. One of my children studies and teaches mathematics in a very respectable German university . My grandmother, an early university graduate, lectured on Schiller and Goethe in German nearly a century ago.

In the foyer of my apartment on the Upper West Side of Manhattan are old family photographs in black and white and sepia. My children call it the “hall of the ancestors. “ More than thirty of the people depicted were brutally murdered by Germans during what Germans call Das Hitler’s Krieg. Are there family pictures on your wall of relatives, robbed, starved, tortured and murdered by Jews?
The difference between us, FNord, is that I don’t believe it was Hitler’s war. Hitler was democratically elected and enjoyed the loyalty of all the German people.

All that said, you sound like a good and decent fellow and I mean you no anguish. But the reputation of Germany and the German people takes second place to historical truth.