2: Where is the line separating when you would fight for the Constitution and the people on one side and against an insurrection of the people against the Constitution and on the other side or
when you would fight for the Constitution and people on one side and against a tyrannical government acting under color of law on the other side?

Please give your answers to me at gmweber@q.com especially those in favor of gun control.

Bill, you are correct some of it is to late. That , and I am sure you know this, does not mean that we quit, I will never quit.

I and many of us on line and my daughter fought for and are still fighting for our rights. Every time I begin to let those types of thoughts into my head, I remember the towers and the fighters flying out of Fargo N.D. where I was living at the time.

When I remember that, I reassert my conviction to do every thing I can to change things back to where they were and where they should have never left.

All one has to do is look at how the crime rate has climbed in Europe since they outlawed guns. The criminals love their victims to be unarmed. That’s one of the nice things about being in Colorado, we have the make my day law, which means “break into my house and I get to shot you dead” and no charges will be filled.

About a month or so ago some guy broke into an elderly man’s house near Denver, thinking it was easy pickings. He was sorely mistaken, I figure it took the better part of a week to clean hi inside up from all over the walls and floor. (Gut Shot With 12GA.at close range). Good for the old man.

There is still hope, even if it is slim.

Now I’m starting to ramble. (Guns are kind of a hot button topic for me)

Semper Fi.

P.S. Thanks for the support, and prey for my little girl. Class 2010 U.S. Naval Academy. She is going to be a Marine under Bam-Bam. God be with her and all our serving troops at home and abroad.

I’m done.

Regulating a right out of existence has been fought successfully a large number of times. If gun right, speech rights, or any other rights are regulated out of existence, “Sue the Bastards”, is the way to go and it works. Trying to blame “them” when “we” don’t even put up a fight makes no sense at all. Look in the damn mirror at one of the people who won’t put their money where their mouth is and support lawsuits out the ears against every one of the little games these numbskulls play.

Have a nice day

I believe like the torqued jarhead, however – it is waaaay too late – we have passed ‘infringement’ long ago. One law is infringement, no?

But, hey, it’s just our government – they are kind, beneficient, and have only our best interests at heart.

NOT.

Try this one instead:

‘cold, dead hands’

I intend to distribute those, not possess them, should this come to blows. Remember who has the guns (and if you say ‘the military’, think of the last liberal Marine you met).

Amendment 2 – Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Shall not be infringed, I think that is my favorite part of the 2ND. Amendment. The founding fathers knew that unless they did something to keep Gov. in check, we would quickly end up as we were in England. That just did not set well with them.

The Right to bare arms guaranties all the other rights. The right to free speech. the right to privacy. The right to your own faith. The right to protect your self, etc.

If we give up this fundamental right, we give them all up. Remember, it was armed citizens that made us free and it will be armed citizens that keep us free.

Semper Fi.

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Please tell me your joking, or else show me where in the Constitution it gives Gov. these rights.

It does not say “the right to bare arms unless we think it’s not safe” does it?

Semper Fi.

“Although we have freedom of speech, no one has the right to cry fire in a crowed theater. So to the right to bear arms is not an absolute right. The state can intervene for public safety and the common good”

You are partly right Shadow. The problem is this is not the States doing it, it is the Fed. The constitution specifically gave control of these types of debates over to the States, so the Fed. could not interfere with the local Gov. They(Fed.) are over stepping their boundaries.

We the people need to take back control of our own safety and lively hoods or we may as well shed the founding documents today, and tell all of our troops thanks for your sacrifice but we don’t need you any more, we have the Almighty Obam-Bam to protect us now.

Choice is a beautiful thing, I can choose to call 911, and wait for help to arrive 15-30 min. after I and my family are murdered, or I can take a steady aim, and double tap the bastard in the chest, and then call 911. I prefer to take control of my own life. You go ahead and trust the Gov.

Semper Fi.

“The problem is that no one knows their history, expecially the Supreme Court Justices!”

Marc, You are right about your understanding of the right to bare arm, how ever I believe that the Supreme Court Justices do understand it fine. They are just ignoring it because they (Government) want as much control as they can get. they do not like that our forefathers wrote “for the people by the people”, the Government should be afraid of us, not us afraid of them.

We continue to give up more and more of our rights every day, it won’t be long before we are all referring to each other as comrade.

http://torquedmarine.blogspot.com/

Semper Fi.