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		<title>By: MPB</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-422526</link>
		<dc:creator>MPB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once read somewhere, &quot;You don&#039;t shoot to kill, You shoot to live&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once read somewhere, &#8220;You don&#8217;t shoot to kill, You shoot to live&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: A Weapon-Carrying Experiment&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Weapon-Carrying Experiment&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I spent Super Bowl Sunday this year learning that I should always be nice and polite and have a plan to kill everyone I see. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I spent Super Bowl Sunday this year learning that I should always be nice and polite and have a plan to kill everyone I see. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ObiJohn</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-163406</link>
		<dc:creator>ObiJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if the &#039;have a plan to kill everyone you meet&#039; strategy is a very good one. I&#039;d replace it with the &#039;have a plan as to how to react to a variety of threatening situations&#039; strategy. For instance, &#039;what would I do if I was in a store and an armed robbery started?&#039; or &#039;what would I do if I was at the mall and I heard shots fired?&#039; or &#039;what would I do if I were at the ATM and someone approached me and I believed I was about to be mugged?&#039; Those are useful strategies to think about before finding oneself in trouble, because once it happens you won&#039;t have a lot of time to think and you&#039;d better get it right.

Effective armed self-defense is much less about the gun, or the holster, and much more about how you will respond to certain types of stimuli. I&#039;ve got a good article on the subject, here: http://thirtysecondthoughts.blogspot.com/2005/12/lessons-learned-tacoma-mall-shooting.html

Finally, to &#039;RE&#039; and his idea that unarmed self-defense is a better strategy... wrong. Humans invent tools to multiply our ability to affect our environment. Yes, a well-trained martial artist will prevail over an untrained fighter, but if that untrained fighter is armed, the martial artis will most likely get shot. Give me my .45 and six feet, and let me know you&#039;re coming, and I will put a bullet in you. You may get to me, but I&#039;m going to keep shooting until either I run out of ammo or you run out of blood. In short, having a gun beats not having one, and voluntarily disarming oneself is about the lamest self-defense strategy possible.

Note also that I can take an average human being and train that person sufficiently to be able to successfully defend themself against most attacks in a couple of days via using a gun, whereas it takes months if not years of training to get to the same level of proficiency with martial arts. This is the primary reason that medieval knights and samurai hated commoners armed with longbows or muskets; one rudimentarily-trained peasant could kill a knight with years of training at much expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if the &#8216;have a plan to kill everyone you meet&#8217; strategy is a very good one. I&#8217;d replace it with the &#8216;have a plan as to how to react to a variety of threatening situations&#8217; strategy. For instance, &#8216;what would I do if I was in a store and an armed robbery started?&#8217; or &#8216;what would I do if I was at the mall and I heard shots fired?&#8217; or &#8216;what would I do if I were at the ATM and someone approached me and I believed I was about to be mugged?&#8217; Those are useful strategies to think about before finding oneself in trouble, because once it happens you won&#8217;t have a lot of time to think and you&#8217;d better get it right.</p>
<p>Effective armed self-defense is much less about the gun, or the holster, and much more about how you will respond to certain types of stimuli. I&#8217;ve got a good article on the subject, here: <a href="http://thirtysecondthoughts.blogspot.com/2005/12/lessons-learned-tacoma-mall-shooting.html" rel="nofollow">http://thirtysecondthoughts.blogspot.com/2005/12/lessons-learned-tacoma-mall-shooting.html</a></p>
<p>Finally, to &#8216;RE&#8217; and his idea that unarmed self-defense is a better strategy&#8230; wrong. Humans invent tools to multiply our ability to affect our environment. Yes, a well-trained martial artist will prevail over an untrained fighter, but if that untrained fighter is armed, the martial artis will most likely get shot. Give me my .45 and six feet, and let me know you&#8217;re coming, and I will put a bullet in you. You may get to me, but I&#8217;m going to keep shooting until either I run out of ammo or you run out of blood. In short, having a gun beats not having one, and voluntarily disarming oneself is about the lamest self-defense strategy possible.</p>
<p>Note also that I can take an average human being and train that person sufficiently to be able to successfully defend themself against most attacks in a couple of days via using a gun, whereas it takes months if not years of training to get to the same level of proficiency with martial arts. This is the primary reason that medieval knights and samurai hated commoners armed with longbows or muskets; one rudimentarily-trained peasant could kill a knight with years of training at much expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Mc</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-160211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Tennessee and our laws/situations are probably different.
My carry class experience was similar. Afterwards, however, I came away marveling - and maybe worrying - about how little training and effort are required to be legally armed. (I know, as opposed to those that are illegally armed and up to no good.) There were people on the range that I&#039;d not want to be near if they started shooting.
And the part about getting involved in any kind of legal entanglement is sobering certainly.
The main reason I wanted the carry permit was so I could be legal when driving and when at home, and it came on the heels of there being three armed assaults - one ending in death - in my part of town which historically is pretty quiet as far as violent crime goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Tennessee and our laws/situations are probably different.<br />
My carry class experience was similar. Afterwards, however, I came away marveling &#8211; and maybe worrying &#8211; about how little training and effort are required to be legally armed. (I know, as opposed to those that are illegally armed and up to no good.) There were people on the range that I&#8217;d not want to be near if they started shooting.<br />
And the part about getting involved in any kind of legal entanglement is sobering certainly.<br />
The main reason I wanted the carry permit was so I could be legal when driving and when at home, and it came on the heels of there being three armed assaults &#8211; one ending in death &#8211; in my part of town which historically is pretty quiet as far as violent crime goes.</p>
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		<title>By: KG2V</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-159883</link>
		<dc:creator>KG2V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE Shoot to stop the threat
As someone once said &quot;You shoot to stop the threat.  Unfortunately, a LARGE percentage of the time this tends to leave the person being shot dead&quot;

This is also the reason a lot of people prefer thing like the .45 to the 9mm.  Both, in the long run, tend to leave the person shot dead.  The problem is (if you read police reports) that with the 9mm, you tend to get &quot;Bang&quot; and then the person shot continuing what they are doing for some period of time, often long enough to run up/down a flight of stairs, or close the distance to you (aka continue their attack on you), where with bigger bullets (.45 or .40s&amp;W) the person shot is much more likely to be &quot;Dead Right There&quot; (aka DRT)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE Shoot to stop the threat<br />
As someone once said &#8220;You shoot to stop the threat.  Unfortunately, a LARGE percentage of the time this tends to leave the person being shot dead&#8221;</p>
<p>This is also the reason a lot of people prefer thing like the .45 to the 9mm.  Both, in the long run, tend to leave the person shot dead.  The problem is (if you read police reports) that with the 9mm, you tend to get &#8220;Bang&#8221; and then the person shot continuing what they are doing for some period of time, often long enough to run up/down a flight of stairs, or close the distance to you (aka continue their attack on you), where with bigger bullets (.45 or .40s&amp;W) the person shot is much more likely to be &#8220;Dead Right There&#8221; (aka DRT)</p>
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		<title>By: concealed carry license</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-31306</link>
		<dc:creator>concealed carry license</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in my vehicle on occasion while traveling or to wear under an outer covering once in a while. ...http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/Concealed CarryConcealed carry Application Process: Applications for a Standard concealed carry [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in my vehicle on occasion while traveling or to wear under an outer covering once in a while. &#8230;http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/Concealed CarryConcealed carry Application Process: Applications for a Standard concealed carry [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama Doesn&#8217;t Want You to Defend Yourself</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-28482</link>
		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama Doesn&#8217;t Want You to Defend Yourself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in &#8220;shall issue&#8221; states take intensive formal classes in advance of obtaining a carry permit, and in those classes the majority of the time is spent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in &#8220;shall issue&#8221; states take intensive formal classes in advance of obtaining a carry permit, and in those classes the majority of the time is spent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob McCarty Writes</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-22027</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob McCarty Writes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve covered the shootings in Kirkwood, Mo., during the past four days and, after watching a local St. Louis television station&#039;s interview of City Attorney John Hessel, I couldn&#039;t help but think how he and other victims of Thursday night&#039;s shooting tragedy might have fared better with the help of concealed firearms.

Among the 30 or so gathered in the Kirkwood City Hall meeting room that night, only one trained and qualified person - Officer Tom Ballman - carried a firearm. Had only one other trained person carried a firearm into the meeting that night, the number of dead and wounded might have been greatly reduced. Surprisingly, Kirkwood city laws don&#039;t entirely prevent it!

Read more about it &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bobmccarty.com/2008/02/09/might-more-firearms-have-helped-in-kirkwood/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve covered the shootings in Kirkwood, Mo., during the past four days and, after watching a local St. Louis television station&#8217;s interview of City Attorney John Hessel, I couldn&#8217;t help but think how he and other victims of Thursday night&#8217;s shooting tragedy might have fared better with the help of concealed firearms.</p>
<p>Among the 30 or so gathered in the Kirkwood City Hall meeting room that night, only one trained and qualified person &#8211; Officer Tom Ballman &#8211; carried a firearm. Had only one other trained person carried a firearm into the meeting that night, the number of dead and wounded might have been greatly reduced. Surprisingly, Kirkwood city laws don&#8217;t entirely prevent it!</p>
<p>Read more about it <strong><a href="http://bobmccarty.com/2008/02/09/might-more-firearms-have-helped-in-kirkwood/" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-22026</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bugs, &quot;brandishing&quot; means whatever the DA wants it to mean.

The worst DA&#039;s will go after a brandishing charge if the gun prints or if your body language implies you have a hand gun in a particular place (hand to chest so you can pull a gun faster, etc).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bugs, &#8220;brandishing&#8221; means whatever the DA wants it to mean.</p>
<p>The worst DA&#8217;s will go after a brandishing charge if the gun prints or if your body language implies you have a hand gun in a particular place (hand to chest so you can pull a gun faster, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Weinbaum</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun_class/comment-page-1/#comment-22025</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy Weinbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Jewess in the US, I would like to remind all that America wasn&#039;t won with a registerd gun. And furthermore, that criminals are stopped not by talk, but by FIREARMS. That is why all REAL Americans put our 2nd Amendment FIRST!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Jewess in the US, I would like to remind all that America wasn&#8217;t won with a registerd gun. And furthermore, that criminals are stopped not by talk, but by FIREARMS. That is why all REAL Americans put our 2nd Amendment FIRST!!!</p>
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