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1. Hard Left’s Honeymoon With Obama is Already Over at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs:

[...] Hard Left’s Honeymoon With Obama is Already Over The harshest criticism of President-elect Obama is no longer coming from Republicans. [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:18 am 2. Fannie Butler:

It really doesn’t matter what the left, right or moderate want in this country at this paprticualr time of such a crisis in this country. If anybody believes in our foundational principles, it’s obvious that Obama is not marching to this world’s band, but a greater band for which no man can put asunder.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:44 am 3. Eyedoc:

Wow are these people deranged. Not to worry. As soon as Obama starts enacting his Maxist agenda I’m sure the lovefest will resume. They have nothing to fear regarding Obama trying to govern from the center. It’s not who Obama is, and it ain’t gonna happen.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:30 am 4. vivo:

I don’t like Lieberman, but he may vote as a Dem . . . We don’t know what he says behind closed doors.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:55 am 5. Can You Hear Them Whining? « Gathering of Eagles: NY:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 4:04 am 6. Ken Besig:

Mr. Obama pretty much promised everything to everyone, Left, Right, Liberal, Conservative, Center, religious, secular, radical, traditional, White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, Christian, Moslem, European, African, South American, Asian, Arab, Israeli, etc. If anybody who voted for Obama had seriously thought about these promises they would have realized that Obama could never deliver these goods. Instead, with the help of an overtly ideologized, largely adoring, and despicably non critical media, the American public was brainwashed into electing Barack Obama to the American Presidency, Obama, the biggest snake oil selling teleevangelist since Elmer Gantry or Jim Bakker, and the most perfect African American machine politician ever produced by Chicago.
Barack Obama has neither principles nor policies, and in light of his failure to seriously address the present economic meltdown, no real understanding of any problem facing America. The only real accomplishment Barack Obama has is that he ran an excellent and effective campaign but without a doubt he will end up disappointing every American, and not just the ones he sweet talked into voting for him.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:11 am 7. Chris in Toronto:

Using Bill’s “shady financial dealings” as a reason for disallowing Hill’s appointment would surely cast a bright light on Obama’s —ahem— shady —ahem— fundraising techniques.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:21 am 8. SAF:

Why is any of this news or surprising? Obama was sold as all things to all people. In a year or so there won’t be anybody left who voted for him who isn’t disappointed. Those of us who didn’t vote for him can only be pleasantly surprised by any good he does.

Personally I think both were shrewd moves. Lieberman is a good guy and throwing him under the bus pleases fewer people than it angers. Hillary has no shot at becoming president ever if Obama has anywhere near an OK first term. Promoting her to secretary of state provides for the least amount of drama since she will be under public scrutiny and so will Bill. This is a great curtailer of possible nefarious acts.

The fact that Chris Mathews can’t understand why Obama did what he did shows why Chris is a commentator and not a contender.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:22 am 9. Terry Gain:

These Kos jerks are delusional. Do they expect Obama to remove the mask and appoint one of them?

HRC was all in favour of the Iraq war until the going got tough. She’ll bomb Iran to smithereens if they bomb Israel but she won’t actually support taking the necessary steps to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

She is the perfect liberal appointment. All talk. Further, what does the Secretary of State actually do but spend most of her time outside the country accomplishing nothing?

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:31 am 10. SAF:

The last decent Secretary of State the US had was Jim Baker. The rest since then, Albright, Powell and Rice have been failures in my opinion.

I’ll reserve judgment on Hillary.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:06 am 11. ConservativeGirlie:

Does anyone think it’s a weird coincidence that 57 million people voted for his opponent… and Obambi rallied in 57 states? Oooohhh… eerie….

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:13 am 12. TomJW:

4. vivo:
Nov 21, 2008 – 3:55 am

What do fear? The jewish cabal to rule the world? You’re laughable.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:28 am 13. fear Obama:

Nov. 21 (Bloomberg) — President-Elect Barack Obama‘s transition team is exploring a swift, prepackaged bankruptcy for automakers as a possible solution to the industry’s financial crisis, according to a person familiar with the matter.

700,000 auto worker health insurance covered retirees that voted for Obama will be pissed,
not to mention the several other millions of union workers.

But remember VP Joe Biden said all who voted for him would suffer some ‘pain’ under Obamas leadership.

The auto workers will need to be more ‘patriotic.’

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:28 am 14. Mike:

I love it! I hope he does pick Hilary. She is just as qualified as any other Democrat. And all you far lefties out there, remember “It’s our party, we bought it and now we own it”??? Under the bus guys, under the bus.
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By the way, I hope all you rich liberals out there are going to pay a bunch of taxes because Joe Biden said it’s your patriotic duty to do so and I am waiting for my share of the free stuff Obama promised me.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:31 am 15. petena:

Hillary will be brilliant! The O Cabinet as it is being developed is great. Can’t wait.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:44 am 16. Terry Gain:

“Hillary will be brilliant!

Well she certainly understood what was happening in Iraq for the past two years. Not!

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:59 am 17. Gypsy:

Ha Ha Ha Ha and now it begins we who never voted for this Man who still has so much to answer for himself but managed so well to brainwash American’s…. gullible American’s…. to vote for him because he made them all so starry eyed like he was some Celebrity out of Hollywood which is really where he belongs…well now it is time to watch the fun and games unfold and the real truth of who this man really is come more and more to the fore CHANGE is what he so effectively went on and on about what do we see NO CHANGE AT ALL What a joke!! It sure is going to be fun watching this guy hang himself because of course he cannot deliver on his promises they are impossibly unrealistic. Who did he think he is GOD! Oh you liberals how stupid you are and how gullible maybe now you will wake up to the real world now that the glitter of Obama is steadily begining to die. WHAT A JOKE remember he who laughs last laughs the longest. These next four years sure are going to be interesting watching you guys hang yourselves. What a joke you all are!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:10 am 18. Andrea:

Outraged liberals? So what else is new? They’ve been mad for so long, they’ve no other mode, it seems.

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:12 am 19. Marauder:

*grins* This is what I’ve been waiting for, Obama to do something his supporters don’t like and all the wailing of, “Oh no, Barack betrayed us!” This is going to be fun to watch.

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:25 am 20. SAF:

Andrea:

Five star post!!!!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:26 am 21. House of Eratosthenes:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 6:26 am 22. Voice of the Resistance:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 6:51 am 23. Rachel:

Wow Gypsy what sour grapes.We all have to sit back and give the man a chance I’m not too keen on Hillary but she can do no worse than what we’ve had. The ones doing the yelling are the ones who thought they were going to have a position. As far as Obama’s background and all the talk about that seems to be just that. All talk mostly masterminded by McCain/Palin camp. Hillary bad mouthed him because she didn’t want to lose. Now she can eat humble pie! As far as the auto workers I don’t feel all that sorry for them. They didn’t mind their big paychecks and the Auto Workers Union keeping prices up and bled us Americans. Not only high cost of auto’s then we suffered during this gas crisis with gas guzzlers! Their labor costs on repairs and parts were ridiculous. Maybe they’ll revamp and get down to where we can all share that American dream. I don’t need a personal jet but would like to afford some wheels at a reasonable price and to ride coach now and then.Obama hasn’t had a chance to deliver anything yet…he’s not the sitting President. Remember? You expected miracles? We who voted for him didn’t. We just expected a man who has a better vision than what we have had and is going to try. TRY! Magic word plus listen.

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:58 am 24. Moonage Political Webdream» » Baggage:

[...] November 21, 2008:  The rather nasty public backlash is starting a lot sooner than I even expected.  But, basically in line with what I did expect.  I don’t [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:03 am 25. What Goes Around:

Wow. I guess the DailyChaos will soon be calling Obama the worst President-elect EVER!

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:18 am 26. rvastar:

It’s a beautiful thing to behold

But don’t worry…it’s only going to get better. Within a year or two, Obama’s going to be getting the same treatment from the high-minded “progressives” at Kos and other Lefty cesspools that blacks were getting at anti-Prop 8 rallies following the election.

Get out your popcorn

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:19 am 27. zeppenwolf:

WORST!!!!
PRESIDENT!!!!
EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or am I too soon with that?

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:51 am 28. Pig with lipstick:

Speaking from the UK we have experience of this sort of left-wing response to anything. When a former British Labour Prime Minister took office, there was a race between different branches of his own party to call for his resignation. I think the “winner” got their demand in within 24 hours.
So get used to it guys; if you will vote for the left-wing canidate this is the sort of fun you get.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:57 am 29. Ian Thorpe:

It was obvious Obama’s Presidency would quickly become dysfunctional, he has far too many paymasters all with opposing agendas and respresenting different shades in the political spectrum.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:14 am 30. Beth:

I find it a little comical how the bloggers over at dailykos and firedoglake seem to actually BELIEVE that THEY are the power behind the people they have put into office. When things don’t go their way, they threaten not to re-elect. They are forever sending their minions to CALL, CALL, CALL or DONATE, DONATE, DONATE in an attempt to sway something they have no real control over. I find it fascinating, if not a little delusional and sad.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:16 am 31. Steve P.:

Gypsy: “Ha Ha Ha Ha and now it begins we who never voted for this Man who still has so much to answer for himself but managed so well to brainwash American’s…. gullible American’s…. to vote for him because he made them all so starry eyed like he was some Celebrity out of Hollywood which is really where he belongs…well now it is time to watch the fun and games unfold and the real truth of who this man really is come more and more to the fore CHANGE is what he so effectively went on and on about what do we see NO CHANGE AT ALL What a joke!! It sure is going to be fun watching this guy hang himself because of course he cannot deliver on his promises they are impossibly unrealistic. Who did he think he is GOD! Oh you liberals how stupid you are and how gullible maybe now you will wake up to the real world now that the glitter of Obama is steadily begining to die. WHAT A JOKE remember he who laughs last laughs the longest. These next four years sure are going to be interesting watching you guys hang yourselves. What a joke you all are!!”

This reads like something that would be scrawled in crayon on a sanitarium wall! How deranged! What “promises” did Obama make? I don’t expect him to be anything other than a decent president during a tough time. But following the total and complete incompetent failure that is the outgoing POTUS, even being a decent president will make Obama seem excellent in comparison.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:24 am 32. TexEd:

Obama’s strategy in selecting his staff causes many an problem. How do you spend money to maximize the influence purchased while getting the most for you money? Bill Clinton will ALWAYS be the highest priced access but you buy at least a Senator and now, maybe, a Secretary of State. But scrutiny from the other dem crooks may limit the clout you think you are buying.
Then, there’s Dashele’s wife who will sell access to HHS, a pretty big budget, or Biden’s son who’ll sell access to the VP. The Congressional Black Cauxus still does business at the regular stand.
However, once we’ve hammered out these minor wrinkles, it’ll business as usual, like Willie never left. And, poor Ted Stevens will miss it but Murtha won’t.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:28 am 33. John the Libertarian:

Bwahahahahaha!!! The Left gets used again!! I do believe they represent the correct and accurate definition of “tools”.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:40 am 34. frank tells:

I WANT TO FIX HILLARY CLINTON FOR STAYING WITH BILL WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE DIVORCED HIM OVER:
1. HIS ANTIMASTURBATION
2. HIS CHEATING ADULTERY
ALSO IM AGAINST HER NOT LISTENING TO ME ABOUT VOTING AGAINST THE ANTI POKER BILL (PHONE CALLS, LETTERS) AND RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY OVERCHARGING AND AGE DISCRIMINATING. I ALSO BELIEVE LIKE JOE LIEBERMAN THAT BILL CLINTON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AFTER ILLEGALLY CHEATING ON HIS WIFE.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:47 am 35. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:

Zeppenwolf – yeah, chill until about March. It should be safe to say that by then. Carter is a hard act to follow, after all…

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:48 am 36. The Wizard:

Did all of you people really expect brilliance from this Empty Suit? The man has no clue, experience or ability to lead this country…..that’s why he has 300 advisors making these decisions and leaking them to the press. The Obmanation will be a total disaster. Already it is Clintons Administration, Part Two. That it NOT CHANGE! This hubris sycophant wanted the office, did not care how he got there, and is is basically a Chicago political street thug.

This country is in serious trouble, we need leadership, ethics and honesty. From what I have seen, that is not the agenda of the new administration, only business as usual, corrupt DC politians and screw the citizens. He has done nothing to instill confidence or respect for himself or his agenda.

Shame on all the voters that indulged in the “kool aid” and elected your messiah based on rhetoric, not facts. You have damaged us all.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:49 am 37. anton:

Too many promises, too few real principles, Obama is forced to re-constitute the Clinton administration because none of his hard-left supporters actually have operational skills. Look at his most arrdent supporters; college kids with no skills, welfare rats that won’t use the few skills they have and academics that are only able to babble at uneducated kids. None of these people have even done anything or made anything work. They are completely deviod of the skill sets needed to make the government function.

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:12 am 38. Paul From Hamburg:

SAF: You make several good points, but I do have to dispute this one:
“Hillary has no shot at becoming president ever if Obama has anywhere near an OK first term.” You could have stopped after the word “ever”. There is no “if” involved. Secretary of State would be an absolute dead-end for Hillary. Who was the last person to go from Secretary of State to President? That’s right, the great James Buchanan.

Unfortunately, most of the recent Secretaries of State, regardless of party, have turned into simple administrators doing what they are told by the career diplomats.

For Obama, this would be a brilliant appointment. He can send her into any no-win situation and let everyone see that she never really was qualified for a top-level executive job.

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:12 am 39. always right:

Who knew? Kos finally backed a ‘winner’, yet he (Kos) still ‘loses’.

Sweet!

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:20 am 40. Helen:

Actually, the only chance that Obama has of governing is to cut loose the crackpot left and let the morons twist in the wind.It was independents who elected him anyway.His debt to the crazies is zero

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:28 am 41. always right:

18. Andrea@Nov 21, 2008 – 6:12 am
Outraged liberals? So what else is new? They’ve been mad for so long, they’ve no other mode, it seems.

Well, if you thought you’ve seen the outraged liberals in the past 8 years, stay tuned.

The coming fireworks will be even more spectacular. When it comes to ‘eating their own’, libs put on a show nobody can equal.

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:34 am 42. SAF:

Paul From Hamburg:

I stand corrected.

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:36 am 43. larsky:

As I see it Mr. Obama is a young, untested, unqualified, inexperienced president elect who has a knack for identifying problems and talking about them with no clear view as to how to fix any of it. Only talk about it. In my experience problem identification is the easiest job in the world. Solving them is quite another issue. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and wait to see what he does.

No problems with O yet. No problems with Hillary at State, but moves like Henry “boy do I hate business” Waxman (in fairness this was Pelosi’s doing not O’s) to the Energy post is truly scary. Get ready for $10 gas and cow dung to heat your home. There will be no drilling, no nuclear, no coal as we magically move into the age of wind and solar with the snap of a finger and the clicking of the heels on Nancy’s little red shoes. Good luck on that one.

And good luck to Mr. O he will need a lot of it as the marxist left, the trial lawyers, the teacher unions, the unions, the greens, the illegals, save bambi crowd, the change human nature now crowd by force if necesary, Nancy-Harry-Henry-Barney-Chris-Rangel-Durbin and the other elite glitterati from the left push their agendas and demand their just rewards.

This ought to be fun. Just hope it doesn’t completely destroy the country before they get it all done. It mostly looks like we are just ‘changing’ one bunch of madcap spend thrifts for another.

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:47 am 44. Dr. Lumplevin:

We on the Left need to understand Obama – that he ranscends politics and old paradigms of “Left” and “Right” and “Center.” He is simply in another dimension.

Nevertheless, Obama issued this statement to Party leaders explaining his decision: “I condemn Joe Lieberman’s participation with violent, anti-Change elements and radical groups like the Republican Party. But his support for Israel started when I was only eight. Look, any attempt to connect me with that is ridiculous. Although Sen. Joe Lieberman has more recently trampled upon our most sacred symbol – the donkey – as well as showing support for the terrorist nations of the United States of America and Israel, we believe that he can be fully rehabilitated, and we will continue to work with and let him eat with us at our table in the Senate cafeteria. We are a Big Tent Party, even if Joe is in the latrine outside the tent.”
http://lumpsfromtheleft.blogspot.com/

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:48 am 45. John:

As if these storms in a teacup will make tuppence worth of difference to liberal democrats admiration and respect for their leader. His approval ratings in the entire country are in the high sixties and his maturity in the Lieberman and Clinton matters will only have enhanced his stature. If Dan Halper really believes the vaporing of some some kids at Kos and elsewhere are any sense meaningful he’s in fantasy land. At some point conservatism is going to have to make a break from reality denial.

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:23 am 46. Pajamas Media » Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over:

[...] Pajamas Media » Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over Nevertheless, Obama issued this statement to Party leaders explaining his decision: “I condemn Joe Lieberman’s participation with violent, anti-Change elements and radical groups like the Republican Party. But his support for Israel … [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:31 am 47. jane:

“We on the Left need to understand Obama – that he ranscends politics and old paradigms of “Left” and “Right” and “Center.” He is simply in another dimension.”

ROTFLMAO

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:38 am 48. Kicking Over My Traces: Pollyanna Takes a Beating:

[...] As though to bolster Rasmussen’s poll results above, Daniel Halper at Pajamas Media notes that the harshest critics of Obamarama abide on the left: [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:44 am 49. Jeremy Janson:

I think you should remember John that at one point GW’s AR was in the high 80’s – it didn’t take long for that to dissipate. Tell me one specific policy view or viewpoint that unifies Obama’s voters. As for me, the way I see it the way Obama won his election he has already hurt this country tremendously by taking a nation already infamous for the low quality of its political thought and dumbing it down further to “Hope” and “Change.” Not that McCain was a saint either, but I already feel I know more then well enough this guy’s intentions.

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:51 am 50. shawn:

ha what a joke. sorry, liberals will complain when they dont like things…since it is always country first, not party first, we will not pretend that a president is making wise decisions just to prop up an ideology (unlike republicans). But this does not mean that we want him replaced or vanquished, as we know from the last 8 years how bad the alternative can be for our country….so get out the popcorn all you rightwingers and enjoy the show…because its in your seats where you will be for at least the next 8 years and probably longer. do hope you like popcorn, fools.

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:55 am 51. stubrn12003:

Wizard, what an idiot. Is anybody going to give him a chance, he cant do anything until January 20th. And then all you clueless republicans will be crying all the way to the bank to pay more taxes. Ha ha ha ha ha. All we wanted was some hope, after 8 years of Bush, and the catastrophy he has caused, yes we do need someone who will lead us in the right direction and it certainly wasnt the old guy and that broad, what a big joke on the Republican Party, they should all be hiding thier heads in shame, oh yeah, they are.
Hey Palin, maybe now you can stay home and take care of the kiddies so that they arent having premarital sex while you’re at work. Teach some birth control would ya, you betcha.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:00 am 52. Kate:

…”he transcends politics…” etc. Are you our of your mind? He is one of THE most accomplished well taught politicians ever produced by the Chicago machine. BUT, does he give a damn about this country or us? Not a bit. Our financial system is in crisis world wide. WHERE is Obama? The Autoworkers are facing the largest job loss in history. WHERE is Obama? People are losing their homes and being put on the street. WHERE is Obama? What have you got to say Obama!!!
Is he just scared of making a decision that he might have to wear? Is he waiting for it to improve before he takes an interest? Is it that he simply DOES NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO? Is he playing politics hoping to hang all the decisions on someone else. Does he not get that bit about the buck stopping with him? Are his advisors telling him to stay quiet hoping that the whole thing will improve before he has to take over?
The thing is we need that HOPE AND CHANGE RIGHT NOW. We electd a leader. That is LEADER Obama. So where the heck are you? Here we are talking about Hillary Clinton while our world and our futures go down the drain. I do not give a damn about the Secretary of State if my 401K totally disappears.
EARTH TO OBAMA Step up to the plate and tell us what you intend to do. Give us a himt..a small idea, ANYTHING EXCEPT YOUR CONTINUED ABSENCE.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:03 am 53. PoliticalSpazz:

“Fool me once…shame on? Won’t git Fooled Again!” The Democratic Party is right on schedule, acting as a buffer to absorb under the 2-party umbrella, all the people that were bent on rioting from 8 years of Bush.

By consigning foreign policy to a shadow government, Obama is just admitting that any change overseas is ‘off the table’ as the Democrats said about Bush’s impeachment.

And as they say, You just can’t teach a sneetch!

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:18 am 54. Jack Phillips:

Actually stubrn12003, they’re giving him far more of a fair chance than the left EVER gave GWB. Moreover, everyone will be paying more taxes, including any lefties who might actually work for a living (which, I admit, is always a rarity).

P.S. It’s funny that you call Republicans “clueless”, when you don’t know the difference between the words “you’re” and “your”. Oh, and it’s “catastrophe”, not “catastrophy” and “their”, not “thier”. Now go get your welfare check.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:20 am 55. Jimmy kara:

President elect-barak Obama during the campaigns critized his former opponet John mcain for playing the same game and expecting a different results, today he is fielding in the same old gadgets to help him rebuild the economy.we’ve got too many smart people out there who have never and probably will never be given a chance to air out their ideas. this is the time for change, if you don’t change, change will change you

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:24 am 56. Lizzie:

Earth to kate…. Obama is the President-elect right now. He is NOT the sitting president, your pal GW is . IF your 401k totally disappears , and like people loosing their homes etc, all the bad stuff going on right now , do you not have the fortitude to lay it at the door of your beloved sitting president ?? Don’t blame the President elect for the shambles of the past 8 years . Guess you are just another sore loser huh??

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:38 am 57. Pajamas Media » Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 11:40 am 58. Pajamas Media » Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over:

[...] Pajamas Media » Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over I love it! I hope he does pick Hilary. She is just as qualified as any other Democrat. And all you far lefties out there, remember “It’s our party, we bought it and now we own it”??? Under the bus guys, under the bus. ————————————— … [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:46 am 59. Terry Gain:

“Earth to kate…. Obama is the President-elect right now. He is NOT the sitting president, your pal GW is . IF your 401k totally disappears , and like people loosing their homes etc, all the bad stuff going on right now , do you not have the fortitude to lay it at the door of your beloved sitting president ?? Don’t blame the President elect for the shambles of the past 8 years . Guess you are just another sore loser huh??”

Spoken like a sore winner. The stock market collapse
post 11/4 is attributable to the realization that the ininformed celebrity culture just elected a naive socialist as POTUS. Live with it Lizzie.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:50 am 60. jerryofva:

Lizzie:

While it is true that Obama has not yet assumed the official duties of the President he still can exercise leadership by working with the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader, both Democrats, to move forward with some policy initiatives. That he remains silent is an indication that he is clueless at this point about what direction to take the hope and change. Presidential leadership is as much about the bully pulpit as it is about the exercise of power. At this point he isn’t even voting present.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:53 am 61. gojo:

Presidents answering maching: “HELLO, Mr. John Q Public, the media and all the ships at sea. I have just washed my hands from all responsibilities and have entered the Teflon Bubble for the next four years and will remain untouchable, oops I mean unreachable during that time. However, If you would like to criticise me or my wife, just give your name and address and we will be happy to put you on the list of known racists and gun-toting religious fanatics. Thanks for your vote, b-bye.”

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:54 am 62. '08ama:

Obama wont have to do nuttin’

in just 60 days the worst administration in the history of human evolution will slip into oblivion and disappera forever. Peace and prosperity will return to planet Earth and Obama will get all the credit w/o even lifting a finger. This will help carry the Democrat”IC” Party’s dominance to 2012 and beyond.

George W. Bush… The best present God ever gave liberals !

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:54 am 63. Sandra MacGregor:

Well……… maybe they will begin to truely see their “real -mistake” …….. and that is ,,,,
OBAMA IS NOT THE LORD JESUS! he is not the , once and for all answer to this Country’s prayers ! our Salvation, our Relief and our Hope – are NOT in him – or – through him ! Its too bad they have held him up so high because now he has even farther to fall when he does and …. he will ……….

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:54 am 64. tropicgirl:

The election of a black man as president was OUR VICTORY, not Obamas.

The tide is turning quickly as it looks like his transition is a car accident in slow motion.

When Bill Clinton started becoming the disallusioned liberal that is now Obama, the house and senate rapidly turned republican and he became useless and finally turned their way with Nafta, invading countries, setting up puppets, deregulating, and continuing wicked foreign policies like school of the Americas.

At this point, Obama appears to be shaping a Cabinet worse than Clinton, because we know better and so should he.

The retribution of false promises and jiving will soon come to an end and he will be punished by an unforgiving part of his “following” who have spent the last 6 years in the streets and fighting for what is obviously right. Read Jeremy Skahill.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:55 am 65. Kirk:

Now that we have a Clinton almost back in the Whitehouse the only thing I am still wondering about is where’s Monica?

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:56 am 66. Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over | Jack’s Newswatch:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 11:57 am 67. Bloggers disenchanted? « Not Your Sweetie:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 12:01 pm 68. WMD:

It really doesn’t matter what Obama does. Everyone’s gonna blame everything on Bush for the next 2 decades anyway.

Democrat-run congress screwing up? Must be Bush’s fault.
Economy’s bottom falls out after 10 years of terrible loan policy? George, you son of a bitch.
The same African-American population that ran to the booths to vote for an extreme left candidate also voted AGAINST just about every liberal social issue, especially proposition 8… Don’t know how you pulled that one off Bush, but the public hates you for it.
My milk was spoiled this morning… Must be global warming, which is obviously caused by the current administration.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:02 pm 69. cozmo:

The flying monkey right is so pathetic when they claim to know what Liberals think…keep up the good work…thinking you have us pegged works so well in the last two election cycles

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:05 pm 70. WiredAngel:

Er Kate…where is Obama? Um…like he’s still only the president-elect, and working harder and quicker than any other before him. He CANNOT do anything you want him to do (or should I say, fail at…) as he is not president yet. YET. As some more astute commentators here have said, we ain’t supporting Obama for his rhetoric, or to be a messiah or miracle-worker. The man has made 53% of Americans believe in a different, better America. As long as he maintains a steady hand on the country and it’s issues, that’s 100% better than what we’ve had the last 8 years, especially in light of the current issues facing America. We might not agree with all his appointments but I have faith that he is assembling the best team for the job.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:07 pm 71. dmoran:

The hard left completely misunderstood what Obama meant by change. He meant that he was willing to listen to the best ideas from across the political spectrum, and not all of them come from the far left alone. That is certainly the impression I got from his campaign. I wonder why they are so surprised.

And even Obama can’t change the fact that in order to succeed in politics, one has to be a good politician.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:10 pm 72. Steve P.:

frank tells: “I WANT TO FIX HILLARY CLINTON FOR STAYING WITH BILL WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE DIVORCED HIM OVER:
1. HIS ANTIMASTURBATION
2. HIS CHEATING ADULTERY
ALSO IM AGAINST HER NOT LISTENING TO ME ABOUT VOTING AGAINST THE ANTI POKER BILL (PHONE CALLS, LETTERS) AND RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY OVERCHARGING AND AGE DISCRIMINATING. I ALSO BELIEVE LIKE JOE LIEBERMAN THAT BILL CLINTON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AFTER ILLEGALLY CHEATING ON HIS WIFE.”

1. What is antimastubation?
2. Bill Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife.
3. Adultery is not illegal, so there’s no such thing as “illegally cheating” on one’s wife.
4. Stop yelling.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:15 pm 73. '08ama:

WMD… (where have you been, everyone’s looking for you ?)

Bill Clinton knows EXACTLY what you’re talking about. good point.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:16 pm 74. The Whale:

Gawd help this Guy when the Hard Left starts digging up info and feedng it to the Right, just like they did with Clinton. And, Gawd help him when the Reagan Democrats figure out they have been conned by the best collection plate Sermon i have ever heard. LOL. I will give him till summer 09 and then he is lame duck central. But the rest of term will be very entertaining.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:21 pm 75. Hank:

I see America circling the drain and Obama is standing there with his hand on the flush handle! His presidency will be cheap entertainment for so many who voted for him. I hope and pray the damage he does can be repaired in 4 years when he is voted out.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:28 pm 76. Portland Liberal:

I am about as liberal as they come, and I am overjoyed at Obamas choice for secratarty of state- it is esactly what I thought should happen at the begining of the primary. Obama is a visionary and HRC is the hammer to his delicate touch- whe has the skill and will to get the hard things done, but she will be unser an administration with a gentler and broader view of the world then she posesses.

Besides she can hardly do worse- GWB has effectively squandered every ounce of political capital and good will that we have built up as a nation since WWII including from the 9/11 attacks. He has laid waste to our good reputation and the guiding princippals of liberty, democracy and global responsability that have been the hallmark of the US since the Roosevelt Administration.

She, along with President-elect Obama, have their work cut out for them- the GOP did a great job trashing the place, but just like after the Bush I adminstartion, we democrats will do the tough work to bring the country back on it’s feet.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:28 pm 77. '08ama:

‘Reagan Democrats’ ???

isn’t that redundant, given that Reagan was a liberal ?

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:28 pm 78. Lloyd:

For all you losers on the right who can’t wait to see things effed up: guess what? It is already. And to all my left-wing bretrens: dont’t worry, I live in CT and we will get him good next time!! We will clear New England of all Right-wing conservatives, all republicans, and all morons!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:28 pm 79. rcfoodie:

That’s the problem with hard anything, left or right. All emotion and no thought. Anyone who thought he could be all things to all people needs to go back to watching Disney movies. I don’t think he ever promised that. I think he presented a lot of good ideas that he intended/s to follow through on to the best of his abilities. Do I think he can accomplish all of them, or even most of them? No! Of course not. America is not Fantasyland. We know how things work here, everywhere. The pendulum swings back and forth and things get done slowly. But I voted for him, and would do so all over again because if he can even fix a few things, then it’s better than it was, and more than I think McCain can do. I understand what he is trying to do in bringing opponents into the Cabinet. He’s trying to erase partisan politics. Nothing more, nothing less, get rid of the Us vs. Them mentality that has characterized politics for so long. Whether it will work the way he thinks, who knows? But Yay for trying. Hillary may seem like more of old Washington, and I don’t particularly like her, but under new guidance, maybe he can bring in some of her better qualities and abilities in a new direction, same with Joe Lieberman and others he’s chosen. I think he knows all of them better than we do, it’s not like I’ve ever gotten to actually have a conversation with them, so really, he’s in a better position to know their talents and what they can do. In any case, I’m still willing to take the crap shoot, with the recognition that he’s just a guy that might be able to help. But ain’t nobody gonna come down from the clouds in a golden chariot and fix all our problems. We need to get off our butts and start working on that ourselves. For the past eight years, we voted the current stupid %$#@ into office and allowed him to stay there, despite numerous, potent, and obvious reasons for impeaching him, and we need to take some responsibility for the effects. Those problems were caused by our decisions, and our lack of protest. I think that the people who are getting so disappointed have made the mistake of deifying the presidency, or at least living in Harry Potter world where magic wands and magic stimulus packages are going to make it all go away. If you want a god, go to church, don’t ever look for him/her/it in the White House.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:34 pm 80. tom:

We are in big and deep trouble.Obama said he will unite the country, boys and girls, he already divides country even still being president-elect. and according to Paul Hanson, US is in a once or two crisis in a hundred year.Unfortunately, we had very poor and low caliber two presidential candidates, neither of them deserve to be a leader in this most difficult time of our history

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:37 pm 81. Zap:

You idiots elected a muslim named man to the office….what do you expect?

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:37 pm 82. Roadsidecouch:

Fairytales you can beleive in!

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:39 pm 83. anand nirish:

Funny, if Obama had started off selecting non-Washington insiders, he would’ve been blasted for choosing people with no experience. Either way, somebody’s gonna gripe. Geez can we at least wait till he IS president to judge his presidency?

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:40 pm 84. Pistol Pete:

The naivete of some is embarrassing. Everyone who voted for Obama is getting exactly what they voted for. Obama is not a revolutionary; he’s a politician. Politicians don’t work to change government; they work to preserve it. That’s why they recycle the same career bureaucrats over and over and over. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:41 pm 85. '08ama:

Lloyd, take it easy man. there aren’t any Republicans LEFT in new england !

Dont kick ‘em when their down, beaten, scarred, humiliated, demeaned, marginalized, spat on, crushed and Palinized.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:41 pm 86. ambo:

Check yourself white america. There is a superiority complex shining through. Bush has been nothing short of an idiot for the past 8 years. Why so hard on Obama? I see it clearly in the South. It reminds me the atmosphere after the OJ verdict. The next few years will define this country and its people. You know what I mean. Stop dancing around the issue and say what you truly feel. The truth will make you free.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:41 pm 87. mrs. thing:

All this bad mouth talking people saying all this stuff about Obama do not make any sense at all you folk know that the man cannot change anything just like that until he get in the chair, he cant give any answers on nothing yet until he take his place in the seat. I suppose if it woula have been McCain get the seat you all would not say all this about him, you people would say the same thing about give McCain a chance he can do any thing just yet. So hush your mouth about Obama and give him a chance some of you put all this mess on this site about a black man and you all cant spell straight on some of the words you saying about him, the same people saying that Obama aint what he suppose to be how do know what the other man is about if he would have win that would have done you all good cause he been for the rich and not for the poor and low class you all would been happy, Obama is trying to help all low class not only blacks you all have white low class and any other colors, when people say in the end we will be sorry but they always say when you wish bad things it always turn to good.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:43 pm 88. Barbara:

The excitment of “Change”is gone……

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:47 pm 89. Pistol Pete:

ambo: Politicians are politicians first and foremost. Race, ethnicity, gender, etc all take a back seat to being a politician. Orrin Hatch and Barack Obama have more in common with each other than you or I do with either one of them.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:48 pm 90. david:

Both extremes are very scary to me. The extreme left didn’t even support President-elect Obama. They supported that dinosaur Ralph Nader and Matt Gonzales. Nader is like the energizer bunny except more annoying. he keeps going and going and going. I wish he was gone. Believe me, Obama will have more trouble with the leftist of his own party than the republicans.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:50 pm 91. Thinking Person:

ambo….Why don’t you start with being honest about how you feel? You’re tap dancing like an idiot around calling everyone who didn’t vote for Obama a racist so why not just pull out your set and say it? In your words….”The truth will make you free.”. No, I’m not a racist and No I didn’t vote for Obama. Put those into your equation and come out with a different answer somehow. Putting all GOP into one box is like calling all Obama supporters ignorant and misinformed.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:53 pm 92. Pistol Pete:

mrs. thing: Did you read the article? What Obama is being criticized for is his alleged offer of Secretary of State to Hillary Clinton and his support for Joe Lieberman. No one is criticizing him for what he hasn’t done because he isn’t in office yet. He’s being criticized for what he’s doing right now. Sheesh.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:54 pm 93. mauivhu:

obama voters, be careful what you ask for. You just might get it. You really don’t know the person you voted in. Youre about to find out though. Here he is, now watch out. hehehe

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:56 pm 94. Thinking Person:

#84 Pistol Pete….Well summed up! I couldn’t agree with you more!…..”"The naivete of some is embarrassing. Everyone who voted for Obama is getting exactly what they voted for. Obama is not a revolutionary; he’s a politician. Politicians don’t work to change government; they work to preserve it. That’s why they recycle the same career bureaucrats over and over and over. Lather, rinse, repeat.”"” Perfect.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:56 pm 95. CATEEM:

ABSOLUTLY NOTHING COULD BE WORSE THAN THE STUMBLING IDIOT THAT HAS BEEN PASSING HIMSELF OFF AS PRESIDENT THE LAST EIGHT YEARS

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:56 pm 96. Old Timer:

I am SO loving this. They wanted this jerkoff, now they got him. How 62 MILLION people hired a guy with no resume for the top position in the entire country is beyond me. My manager has better qualifications for the job, to be perfectly honest.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:57 pm 97. change to the politics of the last century:

Why anyone ever believed the change message is beyond me. Obama hasn’t got a single original idea (anybody that disagrees, feel free to name one for me). All the talk about the politics of the last 8 years and the failed policies of the Bush administration and change we can believe in was just nice marketing. It was masterful the way Obama defined the agenda and the dialog. The way he made age-ist comments and slurs and was not called on it was also really smooth. But, at the end of the day, he is just dusting off some old 60’s US socialism couched in Reagan rhetoric. Smooth.

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:59 pm 98. oSSamba:

When the will the media stop calling Socialists liberals?

Nov 21, 2008 - 12:59 pm 99. kevin:

omg we’re sick of partisanship but then we complain when a democrat backs a republican and is allowed to remain in office…we want everyone to follow their hearts but when they do and go against their party we decry them for it and think they should be kicked out of politics. i think leiberman did what he felt was right and now that the election is over, should not be decried for his view. hooray joe lieberman, hooray obama, screw you dumbass pundit firestarters.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:02 pm 100. Hank:

I hope there will be an economic base left in America when Obama gets done raising taxes and “spreading the wealth around”. When the haves get taxed down far enough there won’t be anyone left to support the non working have nots!

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:03 pm 101. Yeah well:

Pres-Elect Obama has so far been doing pretty much what he told *everyone* he would do. As he has often stated, Lincoln is a prime model for him. I was a Dem at one point, now I’m independent and continue to look beyond the “my team” vs “their team approach.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:04 pm 102. Anonymous:

WIREDANGEL…’The man has made 53% of Americans believe in a different, better America.’

That is exactly what the anti-christ is supposed to do!

and KATE…O can’t tell us what he intends to do…apparently nobody has told him what to say yet!!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:05 pm 103. Ed from Justice:

I have never enjoyed myself so much as when I read the posts on here. Look I voted for McCain because I thought he was the best person for the job and frankly he had the most attractive and entertaining running mate. What guy would not like a pretty woman who fishes and hunts and runs a state? However, my side lost and since BO got the security breifing he has been a different person. Let’s in the spirit of goodwill and fellowship with our American bretheren ( even if we don’t agree with their political philosophy) give the new man a chance. Let’s not be like they were when GW won. (remember all the Ws off the keyboards? How petty!!) Just like I had a great run under president Bush, I believe I will have a great one under president Obama. I do think it would be nice if he would renege on his promise to raise the capital gains tax… ie: he should leak that he will lower it and the market would take off and our 401ks would grow again.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:07 pm 104. Pistol Pete:

#99 kevin: I’m not sick of partisanship. In fact, I’m for it. Partisan gridlock minimizes the amount of bad policy becoming reality. The government is the source of problems, not the solution to them.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:13 pm 105. sydney jane:

Anonymous, I don’t think Obama has been doing what he told everyone he would do. He said he wanted to do away with the politics of the past, and, yes, the Clintons were a part of that. Now, we’re pretty much going into the third term of the Clinton administration, or what the White House probably would have looked like if Hillary had won. You might think there’s change, but, it looks like same old politics of the past to me. Why don’t we see any fresh faces….besides Obama’s. Hillary and Bill WILL dominate him. No question about it. And, no question who Obama will pass that 3am call to.

But, it is fun watching some of the Obama supporters so pissed off because their guy picked someone for Secretary of State that they hate so much. Just shows that he didn’t believe all the trash he talked about Hillary and her not having any foreign policy experience. All of a sudden, we’re hearing how perfect she is. In a sense, she’s being vindicated.

I’m an independent like you, but I think Obama has yet to prove that he’s looking beyond “my team” vs “their team.” After all, everyone he’s picked so far is from his own party. Let’s see him pick a conservative Republican for a post and then we can talk about him looking behind party.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:20 pm 106. Ed from Justice:

RECFODIE…….. I was kind of respecting your reasoning until I got to the explectives about president Bush. If you will, please help me. What is it that you believe he should have been impeached for. Keeping anyone from attacking us for the past 7 years ( including any and all american interests anywhere in the world) ?? Keeping my taxes low so I could grow my business and employ more people? Yes there are a lot of people unemployed now, but since there were over 2mm new jobs created under his watch, there are still more people working that ever before. Finally my 401K has lost 20% over the last six months, but I still have over 20% more money than what I put in. Hey when do we start the “thank you president Bush parade?? Finally in the event things don’t go as well as OB wants, you can always blame Bush for it. Think about it!!!!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:20 pm 107. Patriot:

I continue to be amazed and bemused by the comments of folks on both sides of the spectrum. It seems that people can no longer discuss the issue rationally, but have to repeat the pap that the radical right and left talking heads push as truth. The reality is that most moderates chose to vote for Obama. I keep hearing how the youth vote, latino vote, the African American vote, etc… was the reason that Obama won. The truth is that Obama won, because of the failures of the last 8 years and a majority of us voted to display our displeasure with the actions of the curent administration. The proof of patriotism to me is folks who vote, speak up on issues they care about, even if is about our Governments misdeeds. I am not impressed with those who say if you question certain policies, that you are unpatriotic, unChristian etc…
Republicans I know speak of the current administration with disdain. They realize that it is one of the reasons that the Republican party is seen as so ineffective, and too ideological.
As far as Hillary as Secretary of State, it is a good thing. Facts are the Clintons’ are seen in a favorable light in most of the other countries we share this world with. It is a smart move to have people in highly visible positions representing our country be seen as an honest broker. There will be people that will always hate Bill or Hillary, or any other politician you can name, regardless of what they have or haven’t done on a certain decisions. It jut would be nice to not have to hear/read the rantings and insults when someone doesn’t agree with issues being discussed.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:26 pm 108. Ray D. Aider:

The world remains a very complicated affair.
It’s time to look up!
“Lean not unto thine own understanding, but in all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct thy paths.”
I don’t care who you are.
He will make a way where there is no way.

I put trust in no man. Not even myself.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:29 pm 109. Tunes:

Folks, no matter who is President, nothing can be done to prevent a very bad recession from happening – so hunker down and try to hold on to what you still have. At least we have a President-elect who is familiar with the English language. That will be a change. Republicans, calm down – we had to live with your village idiot for eight years. Now you get to bitch and moan, which used to bother me, but since November 4th, I smile a lot. Call Obama everything in the book – enjoy yourselves. Just like Democrats with Bush, it won’t matter. I feel your pain…

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:30 pm 110. redfrizzyhair:

I am really excited about Hopeyness! Changitude!
lol

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:31 pm 111. Bill:

The honeymoon was over before it began. Neither the hard left nor the hard right will ever be satisfied. An open discussion and exchange of ideas is anathema to radicals, as their minds are made up and they do not want to be confused by facts. That is why they have no influence in anything but elections. Marching and flailing about can win an election, but it takes some thought and consensus to govern.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:38 pm 112. Instapundit » Blog Archive » WELL, THEY’RE NO LONGER USEFUL: Hard left disappointed in Obama….:

[...] WELL, THEY’RE NO LONGER USEFUL: Hard left disappointed in Obama. [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:41 pm 113. Rachel Peepers:

Daniel Halper,

Compliments to the art direction. Love
that big “O”.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:43 pm 114. Humblpai:

Wow, you guys on the right are really funny!!! If he was out there trying to do all these things you’re accusing him of not doing, i.e. working to fix all the current issues, then you would be crying foul that he was trying to be the president before the other one is even out of office… He is being VERY diplomatic, waiting for his turn, and showing respect to one who doesn’t deserve it,IMHO. This diplomatic behavior is consistent with his every move since he started his bid for the presidency. I for one am looking forward to having an intellectual with a strong sense of diplomacy back in our highest office, instead of the anti-intellectual browbeating puppet that we have had to endure over the last 8 years. I don’t expect Obama to work miracles as you all seem to claim we are hoping for, but I do expect to see a new civility extended to those who are willing to work for the good of ALL the people of this country, not just the priviledged few as we have endured over the past 8 years. Give the man a chance and be honest about the effects of his upcoming actions. I for one will praise him for his triumphs and deride him for his failings, but as of now he has not had the opportunity to provide us with either. Please put aside the snide, nasty comments, and the lame talking points of a failed Republican party, and help us create a country that works for the good of ALL, and leads the world into an age of prosperity and equality for all those who are willing to work for it.

And as for the common practice among the right of calling all Liberals lazy and unwilling to work for a living, that is a crock of &*(^, as I have worked all my adult life, have never had unemployment or assistance of any kind and owned a small business for over 6 years working 16+ hours a day. And this doesn’t just apply to me, all the liberals I know work hard. The only difference is that we work our *&^es off and the rich republicans feel they are more entitled to the fruits of our labor than we are. Lets bring the income disparity to a more reasonable level, give the common citizen a decent wage for their labor, and then we will have money to drive the economy (65% of economic activity is consumer spending).

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:45 pm 115. Obama’s “Change”…not so much. « A Political Dookie:

[...] Obama is nothing more than a typical political opportunist and now the left sees it and the honeymoon is over! [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:50 pm 116. Anthony:

The problem is that the far left did not want a president, they wanted a Messiah. Politics is (as the old saying goes) the art of the possible, and that is what Obama seems to be trying to do.

To my fellow conservatives, I argue that we should sit back a bit and let this play out.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:50 pm 117. The Whale:

Bad Recession == the Democrats gift to you. They made it all possible with their insistence on loaning money to people who couldn’t afford to make house payments.These loans were then turned into securitys, like a Bond, with the individual loan spread out over many of these Bonds. The sale of those BONds was then leveraged out to 30 to 1. That means for one dollar you got 30 dollars in product. Sounds like a UAW contract. Now, 5% of those loans have gone bad. Which under normal mortgage lending would be no big deal. It would be spread across the country and the houses would go to auction. However, because of the way this circle jerk was arranged, so everyone who wanted a loan could get a loan, the risk was spread through out the system many times. Then when it went sour, your whole obligation got called. So all of a sudden it wasn’t a buck you had to pay but the other 29 bucks. And it wasnt just on one bad Bond it was on all of them. Good plan Dems, whats your next project, Putting the USSR back together.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:53 pm 118. greg farinha:

I am not a republican nor am i a democrate if repuplican were true conservitives we would not be in this mess.
My greatest fear of an obama presidency is that liberals will be so whiney and needy it will handcuff him from doing anything constructive.
Sounds like its already started

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:56 pm 119. Dixie Dan:

If anyone actually scrolls down this far on the thread, I give you credit. I didn’t want him to keep Joey there, but you know what I’m hardly outraged. In fact, it is his first indicator that he is actually going to keep his promises to change the way Washington does business. So yeah, I’m waiting like the rest of you for his other big promise to come true– to shift the burden of paying for this massive government build-up under the Bush Administration to the people who benefited most from its creation. That’s change we can believe in.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:57 pm 120. JP:

Humblpai: “all the liberals I know work hard”

Ha-ha. What color is the sky on your planet?

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:57 pm 121. porsha:

thats why its called ‘hard left’…

seems to me that if one is so far left

or right

that it is harder to reach across.

not all republicans are idiots, just like not all democrats are smart.

its time that we all became a little more liberal and diplomatic.

and tolerant.

almost there, america!

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:58 pm 122. redfrizzyhair:

Humblepai buddy.
The Democrats are REALLY the ones that are making all of the cash. Trust me.
Remember you are the liberal elite.

We are just the simple folks, but we are NOT looking for handouts and programs.

Nov 21, 2008 - 1:59 pm 123. Right-on-Chick:

Obama, change we (middle-class)can believe in!!! We’re tired of the moguls riding on our backs and preying on society!

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:00 pm 124. Mister Snitch!:

“Outraged liberals” is redundant.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:00 pm 125. frank:

I wonder if all the people in here ranting because their candidate got caught in a landslide will actually acknowledge any of Barack Obama’s future successes.

Probably not. I’m guessing silence will be the best that most of you can muster.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:03 pm 126. travelingtrav:

I personally believe any one that believed in Obama was party to a ship of fools. The man has the charm of a snake and the gift of a chameleon of many colors. You the American people watched with starry eyes as the man time after time fed out lies, misinformation and half truths. I dont expect him nor did I expect Republicans to have the answers to solve the world problems. I never expected him to do anything beyond what his history has shown him to do, “to know where a man is going is to see where he has been” (obama, Israel, Jul 08). I do not see him higher the clinton team as smart, I do not see it as briallant or something an intelluctual will do. I see it as running scared. “those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it”. Obviously, you are failing to realise the history of clinton and what he really did for us. I will give but two examples. “Peace dividend” that stripped our military of money to the point where 1. no money for replacement parts 2. no money for training 3. drastic reduction of morale. 4. drastic involuntary seperations 5. drastice reduction of our military to fight. (I was there, I saw it). (Cheney– you dont go to war with the army you want, you go to war with the Army you have—- we didnt have much of a functionial military left when clinton left office)> second examples: 13 US embassy bombings by terrorists, genocide in rwanda, genocide in sudan, genocide in somallia caused by islamic terrorist backed by Iraq and Iran (hey just research it) Two US naval warships attacked by Islamic terrorists (no the USS Cole was not the only one, the other is the USS Princeton– just look it up). Lets not forget the First attack on the world trade centers– yeah, clinton left us a legacy alright, the only response clinton admin EVER did to answer all of this– launch two cruise missiles into the desert of Sudan– ever wonder why we launced cruise missiles into SUDAN as a result of an attack on the USS Cole in Yemen?) Americans you have been fooled eithier by 1. the press 2. the campaign 3. Yourself. I cant wait to see beyond “change” the next campaign promise to be broken will be. But if I were to guess the next broken promise: no taxes for those under 250,000, errr 125,000 ummmm 85,0000…… pffffft

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:04 pm 127. Tim:

For all those dumb peabrains out there who voted for Mccain/Palin, get over yourselfs. Your ticket lost because they are awful. A tired old man in Mccain and a hockey-mom who didn’t even know what news paper she reads. You have the nerve to insult someone who even isn’t Pres. yet BUT what about the CRAP thats been in the Whitehouse for the last 8yrs. Do any of you still have your job by the way or are you drawing unemployment already…….Losers!!!!!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:05 pm 128. ahi:

How many fools on this board believed him about new politics and change ? He is just like ANY other politician except more people went for it ever than before, proving poeple are more stupid now than even when Bush won. Hope you idiot dreamers are happy. I will stay an independent thinker rather than accept what the media tries to feed me.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:06 pm 129. JAY:

I find it funny that anyone really thinks any party truly cares about any middle class america. We are gluttons for the crap. There is a reason the rich are rich and the poor are poor. The whole financial mess cracks me up. Maybe we should have lived through a real mess like in the 20’s or 30’s before we act like this is truly a mess. Sell some of your crap! Quit feeding the rich! I am on a tight budget also, lookes like I wont’t make it back to dsney world till at least next year. We, I only say we because I am an American; voted for an Opresive Government. We got what we deserve. get ready to give your money away to the pathetic party.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:07 pm 130. Humblpai:

I think my comments about work and income were not conveyed clearly. I have worked hard all my life and owned my own business for a time, but I am hardly rich, and am living paycheck to paycheck. If pall liberals don’t work then the unemployment rate would b emore like 50%, as this nation is fairly evenly divided and some of the republicans are unemployed as well. Please stop insulting half of this country by implying that we don’t work when in fact we put in our 40+ hours like everyone else…..

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:10 pm 131. Right and Left:

Actually Cateem, something COULD be “WORSE THAN THE STUMBLING IDIOT THAT HAS BEEN PASSING HIMSELF OFF AS PRESIDENT THE LAST EIGHT YEARS”. And that being, THE STUMBLING IDIOT THAT WILL PASS HIMSELF OFF AS PRESIDENT THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:17 pm 132. SAF:

I voted for McCain.

So far Obama has done reasonable things in my opinion. I think Albright, Powell and Rice have been lousy secretary of states, Hillary has more gumption than any of them. She couldn’t be worse, might be better. And in the process he seems to have neutralized Bill to some extent.

Ram Emanuel is a good choice, he is a kick as guy although I may not like the direction in which he kicks ass.

Timothy J. Geithner is a good choice for Sec of treasury, he is not a left wing wacko.

I like the idea of a prepackaged bankruptcy for the auto companies. Halves the time at least and cuts down on legal fees.

Since I didn’t buy into all the Obama left wing hype I can only be pleasantly surprised by what he does.

Too early to throw him under the bus you got to let the man have a chance.

Last time I checked I was an American first and an anti-obama guy second. It is in my best interests to see him succeed.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:18 pm 133. Center of the Row:

The things you learn from the right can be good in certain times. This election showed what is wrong with America and what is right in other nations. If history serves the right will always vote for a Republican candidate no matter their stance. The Left at least will vote for the best candidate during an election. The process should not involve party loyalty especially when most of your country is leaning left. Marxist views make me laugh because the right has painted this man as such. This is not the first time a Republican has sent us into a recession and towards a depression. Now who introduced a bill that reflects the most Socialistic policy in American history… da da da daaaa the Republicans. Lets face it Lieberman is just as important to the dems as the repubs. The only reason he is seated is because of republican voters in his state. Whether he socializes with either party is not a choice for us to make. He chose the candidate that he thought best suited his needs. At least he is not doing something so un-American as straight ticket voting. Individuals that do that do not represent the interest of America. Ask yourself this how do you get a leader like Hitler!!!! Vote blind by association to a party this leads us down a road that will come back to haunt us. I will end this by saying that history will define Obama by what he does when he takes office not what he does waiting to take office.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:22 pm 134. Cuba:

I always said: “Either, in two years; Obama is going to shoot himself on his foot, or we going to have a Liberal Reagan.”

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:25 pm 135. Deang:

I actually admire his attempt to pull everyone together. Have any of you critics every become the boss at a new place? Do you just start throwing out everyone their and making enemies. No…you evaluate what you have and try to put people in positions they will succeed in and build loyalty to your cause. This is the smartest thing I’ve seen him do. It looks like he’s trying to give everyone a voice and not just the “yes men”. You want to build a successful organization then you have to build a successful team and try to get everyone working towards the same goals….how much would you get accomplished if half the people that worked with you were trying to undermine you all the time. It’s common sense to try and build bridges and heal wounds so he can get things done.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:25 pm 136. Humblpai:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA JAY “lookes like I wont’t make it back to dsney world till at least next year.” I haven’t been to disney world ever, and haven’t had a proper vacation or health insurance for that matter for the past 6 years. I don’t want to hear about your troubles. Tell me about them when both your cars are over 10 years old, you are renting a house, have $0 retirement, no health insurance, no investments and you work 40+ hours a week.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:25 pm 137. aaa:

LOL! Great to see, but what could have been more obvious? He made too many impossible promises to his lefty disciples. The further left you go the less rational and more emotional the desires, and less possible as well. I predict discontent will grow with all those knuckleheads that “bought the dream” of the campaign. Now it’s time to make good on all the promises and it simply can’t be done.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:26 pm 138. JAY:

It’s called Social Engineer, the other is commony called prey. Usually the ones that know this out number the others. unfortunatley it appears that the majority of the country no longer elects the President. I am not one who believes in changing the Constitution, but Changing it back might be a good idea. How bout the working and owning America Vote for the president. I would even except somthing like if you paid taxes in the last five years or owned a piece of property with in the last five years. This election only proved our system is broken. I wonder if they are still busing all the homeless around for free meals? I can only think of one response, Suckers.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:27 pm 139. Kyle:

Tsk, tsk. You mean Obama’s “Time for a Change” was just a political ploy to get elected? The problem here is that Obama is making POLITICAL appointments. Emphasis on political. That means he will appoint people good for Obama’s political future as he sees it – - not the country’s future.
The “Change” Obama promised is better put this way – “I want to be president.” Yep. Those empty promises are just that – empty. Now that he will be in office – who will (or can) keep track of all his promises? Ans.: No one. And if anyone calls him on his broken promises – his answer will be 1) it’s Bush’s fault; 2) it’s the Republican’s fault; 3) Remember, it’s Bush’s fault. Then he’ll flash his pearly whites and Chris Matthews will feel another shiver in his spine and Obama will want another term. Hmmm. What will his new slogan be? Can’t be change anymore, can it?

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:29 pm 140. Anonymous:

“After all, we are not communists”…yet

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:30 pm 141. Porkov:

I voted for McCain because I believed that Obama was a doctrinaire delusional leftist who could not utter “profit” without the preceding adjective “obscene.” Almost every move he has made since his nomination has indicated that he will manage pragmatically, and the goose that lays the golden eggs may not be destined for pâté. This has to be bad news for those of his early acolytes whose hope was for utopia.It caused me pain to hear Obama supporters call McCain a chump for his stubborn honorable refusal to abandon his commitment to accept public campaign financing. Was I a chump to save for my retirement? My hope, Mr. President-elect, is that your policies make that answer a resounding “no.”

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:30 pm 142. Terry Gain:

“Besides she can hardly do worse- GWB has effectively squandered every ounce of political capital and good will that we have built up as a nation since WWII including from the 9/11 attacks. He has laid waste to our good reputation and the guiding princippals of liberty, democracy and global responsability that have been the hallmark of the US since the Roosevelt Administration” Portlan Liberal

@ 76 Clueless Liberal in Portland

58 million liberated from tyranny, al Qaeda decimated, Libya and North Korea disarmed of nukes. American homeland kept safe. You live in an upside down world if you think Obama’s blathering is going to improve on this rcord of achievement.

All the vicious lies and accusations from delusional leftists can’t change this enviable record. Obama will do well to hold onto to Bush’s achievements.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:34 pm 143. JAY:

I hope someday you can explain that theory to your grandchildren center stage. you probably believe everything you learned in school also, right. What if? just what if you are wrong, and it does matter that as a President you should have Values and morals; at home and at work.What if you should believe in war for the peace of your own Country. Secondly finacial messes don’t get created in 8 years. They take like twelve years. Sometimes they even take 25 years.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:35 pm 144. Bobbi:

You pooooooor libs. Go get ‘em Joe!! I’d vote for you anytime. He is one of the last honest men & the libs hate him because he ran & won as an Independent!!!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:36 pm 145. Keith:

Obama will be the greatest president in our history, and with the Democrats in control of congress we can get to work undoing the damage done by the radical right wing, and put in place institutions to truly restore this nation to greatness.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:36 pm 146. Bobbi:

Do you think Obama isn’t a RADICAL left winger?? As bad as the “radical” right wingers

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:41 pm 147. Dave:

“When the will the media stop calling Socialists liberals?”

Those are the only people listening to the media or returning their calls….Socialists, liberals, marxists, terrorists, etc. etc.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:43 pm 148. Left Disillusioned With Obama Already? Good! « The Angry Centrist:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 2:47 pm 149. gs:

I regretfully concluded that McCain is too erratic to be Commander-in-Chief, but I’d worry about Obama going eye-to-eye with Putin.

I wouldn’t worry about Hillary going eye-to-eye with Putin, and she might stiffen Obama’s spine like she did Bill’s.

This might not be a bad choice. It might be the best we can get until (unless?) the GOP gets serious about governing competently.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:49 pm 150. lee,sarasota:

To all those who say Obama cannot do anything until he is officially president, I say he has been acting as tho he were president during the primary. Now that he does not have any answers to any of this country’s problema he remains silent. This is a person who only wanted to be “President”. He didn’t want to actually accomplish anything. After all, he was a state senator and a US senator all while doing nothing. So what did you actually expect him to do now. He is in over his head. He is just going to play at being president. Hail to the Chief.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:50 pm 151. Shaw:

Would somebody please tell all this to Hannity?..he’s going over the edge..

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:51 pm 152. luella:

How in the world can you say the mess on wall street has anything to do with Obama? That started along time before he was even close to winning. AND I thought Repugs were against killing babies? Have you seen some of the midnight rules old GW has been pushing through. Allowing more lead deposits in our streams, drilling in our parks just for starters. Oh, let’s don’t kill babies, let’s wait till they are old enough to drink our poisoned waters and eat the toxic meat of all the animals that drink our waters. Then if they do survive that, send them somewhere overseas to die so the bigshots can line their pockets with “dough”.
What alot of good ole boy hunters don’t realize is, if the environment goes so does the wildlife, then us!
Am a disabled Vet, not against war if it is truely going to help, and we go after the ones who deserve it. Maybe some of you consider my VA check, welfare!
I don’t expect Obama to walk on water, but hey I sure couldn’t take another 8 yrs of Repugs.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:51 pm 153. Dave:

“Ask yourself this how do you get a leader like Hitler!!!!”

Exactly the same way the Democrats got Obama elected – through scaring old people, misleading young people, smearing political opponents, dishonestly blaming others for their own failed policies, and most of all playing up racial identity.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:54 pm 154. Marquette Moderate:

When are you people going to understand? Change in any election simply means the change of the party in power. Everything else is just the same old-same old. Until we fire everyone in Washington and start over, it will never change.

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:57 pm 155. The Whale:

I am trying to think what the radical right has ever done that hurt this country… hmmm,… err nuttin. Now we get to see 4 years of the radical left, lets hope thay have the same success as the radical right. As for Obama bin load in pants. He is a con man, and you were conned. Get over it leftys and smile cause you aint gonna get kissed first…….

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:59 pm 156. sharpshooter:

#78 – Lloyd

Just what is a bretren ?

And since you,re getting rid of the morons in New England when exactly will you be leaving

Nov 21, 2008 - 2:59 pm 157. JAY:

if that is how you feel, it is not your reputation to worry about. If you are in that bad of shape maybe you should get up a little earlier in the morning, kiss afew buts, get a job, and quit blaming the 70% who do exactly that everyday of thier lives! Mr. Humblpai, I grew up poor, I did not have atv, or cable or gas at times during the winter. You, are on a computer, on the internet at 6:00 in the evening complaining about no having anything.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:01 pm 158. Akatsukami:

The Petulant Left thought that expending time, money, and effort on the Obama phenomenon would cause the man to give them a place at the table out of gratitude.

What in Obama’s personal or political history suggested that this would be the case?

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:02 pm 159. JAY:

sorry I have to leave. Gotta go to my OTHER JOB!

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:04 pm 160. Thinking Person:

145. Keith:

Obama will be the greatest president in our history, “”"….This comes after the left posters are trashing the GOP posters for judging Obama before he takes office? How about crowning him the “greatest President” in our history before he even lays his hand on the bible? If you’d like us all to be so patient before we point out Obama’s shortcomings, why the rush to annoint him with oil and put his crown on? Should we just go ahead and start chiseling on Mt. Rushmore now? Hilarious.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:04 pm 161. Bozo:

Hey Kids!! NewsFlash..None of this makes any difference. We are on the fast track to World Government. Like it or not the two party system along with our Constitution will soon be old Memories. Say Hello to Your Fearless Leaders in the European Union. Bow down to Your God of Greed and Hate and prepare to eat the fruits of World Conflaguration. Change? Ha! Meet the new Boss same as the Old Boss.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:06 pm 162. Jim C.:

Steve P. wrote, “What ‘promises’ did Obama make?”

Wasn’t there something about healing the planet?

Chris Matthews said, “I don’t understand it.”

You will, eventually. It’ll be hard for you, but there are many kind people who take pity on idiots and they’ll give you all the help you need (lots).

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:07 pm 163. Reggie:

Portland Liberal: Are you always so entertaining? Maybe you should do a stand-up act.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:10 pm 164. Thinking Person:

I really think that the left is wanting us all to hold off judgement so they can have their post-inaugural time to “cut Obama some slack” as he gets adjusted to his new job. Of course that will wear off after 6 months or so and then they can spend the next year and a half saying all of the bad news is “Bush’s fault”. By then it’ll be time for the mid-term elections when the GOP will reclaim a majority after which the left can get back on the path of “it’s a Republican Congress so you can’t blame Obama”. Anyone else see the train coming down the track?

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:10 pm 165. Humblpai:

I see no point in further discussion with most of you here. You only want to divide the country, spew the traditional right wing talking points which have been proven false, and continue to hate those who have a different viewpoint from yours. I don’t hate CONSERVATIVES, although I don’t agree with them. But for you to use the word Liberal as if it were a dirty word is absurd, just as me using Conservative as a derogatory word is absurd. Why can’t you just admit that the last 8 years have not been a good example of what this country stands for, and give the other side a chance to prove that another way of doing things might actually be a good thing for the country. Conservativism and Liberalism are two sides to the same coin and it would be best if we could strike a balance between the two, not discount one for the other. I, as well as most of the other Liberals I know are willing to meet half way on most issues, why can’t Conservatives show the same level of cooperation so that we can all live and prosper in this country without feeling left out.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:13 pm 166. Vikki:

Wow! this is AMAZING… Obama is everyone’s president whether people who didn’t vote for him like it or not. We ALL must support him and at least give him a chance. Nothing will change overnight. I didn’t vote for him but the majority of the people did. I have to give him a chance. He won fair and square. Let’s face it, he was the best canidate and it’s time for everyone to support him. Hell, we supported Busch for 8 years and shame on us and look what we got: Foreclosers, Loss of jobs, bail outs & 2 wars. You name it, we all are in the same boat or is feeling the aftermath. Stop it people… Stop acting like kids in a school yard. We are adults and it’s time we start acting like adults. What type of example or we setting for our children. Wake UP!!! Get a grip and let’s find out what we can do as Americans to help our Nation. We as a country are in deep trouble. If we don’t come together as 1 nation we will all perish.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:13 pm 167. EW:

I am not surprised that the unitiy of the lefties is already waining as Obama starts to DO something (albeit only pick people)

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Nov 21, 2008 - 3:18 pm 169. jane:

87. mrs. thing: Before you criticize the spelling of others perhaps you should review your own spelling and grammar.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:20 pm 170. JAY:

Ouca Fbamk! what do you mean get over it. you are pathetic. I decided to call off, I am not going to work. I want to stay home and play on the computer. I am not going to work on monday either! please send Money.

LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. HAVE YOU EVER GOTTEN OVER ANYTHING? My only regret is I wasted the last 24 years of my life protecting people like you!

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:31 pm 171. mrkwong:

I’ll believe in the pragmatic Obama when he stiff-arms CO2 regulation out to 2010 or beyond.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:33 pm 172. JAY:

Humblpai: forgive me I didn’t know. WELCOME to my world. and guess what you are now going to work harder so that some people will never have to worry about it. “it is better to have loved and lost, then to never have loved at all. sound familiar?

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:35 pm 173. shelly:

All this hate…Obama is not even in office yet.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:56 pm 174. SAF:

Humblpai:

The left spews as much as the right.

Lets see what he does.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:57 pm 175. shelly:

I think it would be a BAD thing if the liberals were happy with Obama.

Nov 21, 2008 - 3:58 pm 176. dieselis:

i’m gonna give obama a chance.i expect great things i’d be a fool to expect him to deliver all his promises.list the bush promise that was never relinguished top2.5% are his constiuats.do you call it reverse socialism.look where the country isparked.more like when capitalism becomes rape.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:00 pm 177. Jack:

Gore lost because he picked Lieberman, a whiny little Benedict Arnold. Then he goes and supports McCain. He’s out of touch with America. He was thinking, “no way will this country elect this black guy named Obama”. Well, he was wrong, as usual. Now he’s gotta go crawling back to the Dems. What a loser.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:03 pm 178. Ben Karkis:

I’m a libertarian liberal.

Why is everybody on this guy’s case. He’s not even President until January 21st. What difference does it make if HRC is Secretary of State. I’m more concerned with 60 Democratic Senators and 257 Democratic Representatives.

Give me split government any day.

Good bye George and good riddance.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:07 pm 179. alyson:

I am so tired of people criticizing Obama for being Marxist or Socialist or Pinko-Freakin’ Commie…what ever he is that people are afraid of when a “capitalist” system including banks, insurance companies and the auto-industry are begging for hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars to stay afloat…well, folks welcome to socialism prior to Obama even entering office.

We are only going to see change in the world when each and every one of US (myself included) decides to change…to want less, to be less envious, to be grateful for what we have in each moment and to help each other out as much as we can. Then we will see “CHANGE.” No politician will ever hand us lasting change.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:09 pm 180. Chappie:

If any situation is caused aboard a Navy Ship whether the Captain caused it or not he is responsible and takes the spear.G.W. Bush as captain he is truly taking the spear when in fact those who are truly responsible take a deep breath and hide.We can only wait now.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:11 pm 181. persiflage:

Stop giving Obama a pass! “He can’t do anything he promised because he’s not officially president yet…” The man is a US SENATOR, residing in the greatest lawmaking body of the USA! If he’s got the solutions to some of our problems, he needs to implement them with his majority-party (for the last two years) Democrat colleagues in the Senate and House. It’s just cruel and immoral for them to hold out on us when they’ve got the solutions! C’mon Democrat majority – you’re in charge, and have been for the last two years – what are you waiting for?

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:26 pm 182. Ridge Runner:

B.O. understands an important principal in tapping Hillary for Sec State: “Keep your friends close to you, and your enemies, closer.” As for Lieberman, by not throwing him to the KOS dogs, he retains a chance for a cloture vote in a pinch, but allowing for endless filibuster in cases where he doesn’t really want something that his congressional allies are twisting his arm to support. Nicoli M would be proud of B.O.’s mastery of “The Chicago Way”.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:31 pm 183. QCool:

Comment 165. Well put. I actually liked John Edwards until Obama became my guy. He’s not perfect, but for those of you who are saying he had done nothing, understand that he’s a JUNIOR senator, not exactly the position from where you can change the world. Bush’s previous exp. before he became Prez #43 was to taunt a woman on Texas’s death row for having her life spared and to run the Texas Rangers baseball team into the ground. He was unpresidential before he took office and has used the world as his personal wrecking ball. And by the way, where HAS the prez been during this crisis? Oh, right. He’s pushing all the ”midnight legislation” he can before he goes. More damage to undo.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:36 pm 184. Marv:

Gypsy, I do believe that you have hit a nerve in the cult! They’re writing narratives to defend their leader based on your blog. Excellent! Keep up the reality.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:44 pm 185. Clemence Dane:

I’d give anything for another 1992-2000, the best years of my life, the best economy I have experienced, the best I’ve ever done financially. I’m glad he’s keeping some of the best Clinton people and I think HRC will kick ass as SoS. And I am impressed at how he is balancing old and new guard in his cabinet and even some potential picks that have bipartisan appeal (General James, Napolitano.) I am a centrist who just switched from registered Democrat to Independent. I am equally sick of the loonies on the left and the loonies on the right.

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:46 pm 186. JA:

America…wake up! Put your thinking caps back on your head! Example: You are playing basketball against that team…you know…the one that you want to beat really bad! Well you really can’t stand the forward on your team because the forward is better than best…but you can’t stand to lose against that other team. What you think? Let the forward win the game for you. Now I am not saying that there is any disagreement with President-Elect Obama and Senator Clinton or that Senator Lieberman…I am saying that he is picking the best people to help you win! Remember we worked for President-Elect Obama to help him win the election. Now he is working for us, Americans to win our dreams. I hope that this make sense!!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 4:54 pm 187. Shadow:

Not since the election of Abraham Lincoln has America made such a tragic mistake. Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:08 pm 188. liberal from mass:

It’s really discouraging to read all these hateful ignorant remarks.
There are a few facts on this ship of fools: Republican and Capitalist policies resulted in the on-going free fall of the US and world economy. The only nations that will survive are those where there is a ballance between population and sustainable natural resources. (none???!!!)
Personally I can’t think of one republican in office who wouldn’t be happier philosophically if Hitler had won.
Life is a beach and then you die– the only certainties are war, corruption, lies, death and taxes. Though Bush and the repubs believe only those making less than 250K should pay taxes.
Guess what too, this is a permanent recession!

The best of human quality of life may have been between 1960 and 1980 inspite of the psychotic atrocity of Vietnam. Nixon Reagan Bush and Bush are the true axis of evil and I would believe in Satan if I believed in god.

George Evans

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:12 pm 189. T-Money:

How stupid is it that the idiot Republicans (not all) but most in these conversations want the country to get worse under Pres Elect Obama just to justify that they might be right voting the same repubican mantras that got us in trouble in the first place. How childish and immature can you get? Where do you get off challenging the masses desire to believe in hope and change and suggesting they couldn’t make an intelligent decision after thousands of hours of analysis. I might add this includes blacks,whites,young,old,asian,spanish etc. Everyone was dellusional but you? Please get over it and get a life! It was a landslide because intelligent people got fed up and decided to throw out the screw ups that think like you!. You voted i’m sure for Bush 2x so you’re part of the reason the US is in such bad shape!!!!! Your guy Bush was very efficient in getting us to rock bottom. Even with inevitable mistakes that will occur, our only direction is up and out of this deep hole were in. OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA GET USED TO IT.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:14 pm 190. Dixie:

I am 46 years old, I did not always agree with President Bush, I do however always support my President, My country and our miltary for everything they have scaraficed for us all. It is easy to run down someone who is trying to do what they feel is best for us all. Everyone is going through hard times, it has not only been the last 8 years but also the 8 before. Quit blaming one person it’s the whole bunch of them. I live in Ohio where plants shut down daily with no help from ohio elected, I see people losing jobs everyday and I also see people working 2 low paid jobs to make ends meet, most have no insurance, retirement and work paycheck to paycheck and still can’t make it, that is called Middle Class. I also am surrounded by people who can work but, don’t because our system gives them the free ride It seems like the free ride for these families just keep going generation after generation They get free insurance, free monies, free place to live, free food do I need to go on or is everyone following me. These people can work and should but don’t cause we pay them to good to do nothing while we work hard and have nothing…they even go to school for free where working class kids has tons of school loans to pay back and can’t get the job they went to school for because we let retired people back in jobs they are retired from and shut the young out, that way they draw 2 nice checks have insurance and our young once again can’t make it. I will support our next President and I hope he can make a difference. I voted for McCain but, I know I need to support Obama like I did Bush and Clinton… If I was president for a week my first agenda would be senate and congress wage cuts, Just like President I feel if these offices changs hands every 4 years (Only be in a seat 4 years / your out policy) this country could and would see change. Nothing is ever going to change with the same people sitting in the same seats (Life termers) we have some really old and health sticken people who still hold office I appreciate what they have given and the time in office but, it’s time to let someone new in that is called change. If they can raise so much money on the road to the white house why can’t they throw a dinner and build a new school, help college kids from the USA pay back there loans, why do we let foreigners come to our country and get a free ride and our own kids suffer… I don’t understand how these things can happen, we always help people who do not work. There is jobs out there most of us do them everyday. It is also sad when a jar of peanut butter cost me more than I make an hour On the flipside why is everyone in Washington making millions, we who work get paid the lowest of them all What would happen if the plug was pulled they all had to work 60 hours a week and get minium wage, have no insurance, wonder how your going to feed your family and get clothes for them. everything cost more than we make today and that is truly sad. If we gave them all min. wage I bet things would change fast. I hope for once that they can sit down like adults, it is always a game no matter who is seated, they need to know in 4 years your done bye bye ..they need to start passing a few things that is good for our country (Stop importing would help alot) NAFTA truly hurt us, we fight over issues like stem cell research, gay marraige and who is right and wrong we fight over animal rights the ACUL has way to much say.. and you know the drill, I understand everyone has a stand on all these issues and whatever you belive is your choice… but, bottom line is I think we need to fix things like Jobs and health care first They need to cut out alot of programs and try creating new ones, The need to help americans before anyone else.
Thanks for letting me vamp. God Bless

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:19 pm 191. B Dubya:

oh Lizzie..
“IF your 401k totally disappears , and like people loosing their homes etc, all the bad stuff going on right now , do you not have the fortitude to lay it at the door of your beloved sitting president ?? ”

The wisdom of the crowd has already spoken. Your POTUS elect has been evaluated by the market and it is grading him by tanking. Since September 29th, the economy has been going to hell with the certain knowlege that BHO would be sworn in on the 20th of January. This dead and necrotic economy is not GWB’s, honey, it’s Obama’s. The market wold have gone to 14000 plus with assurance that McCain had sewed up the election.
No matter what you poeple bleat about, no matter how much and to whom you project, I’m following the money.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:45 pm 192. crazyhorse:

just remember who was incharge of congress the last few years!! congress should get off their butts and do the right thing for this country and do the right thing and work for this country and not for their own selves.

Nov 21, 2008 - 5:52 pm 193. Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs:

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Nov 21, 2008 - 5:57 pm 194. Paul_Unalaska:

Hillary Clinton. Yikes!

Comment #179 sounds like it was takem from THEE (not “a”) Obama speech.

Research Obama’s upbringing, his mentors, colleagues, contributors of his Chicago politics and you would question our country’s future as well. Read books which both praise and are critical of his past, ideals and agendas (seeing as how the media never approached the subject). I had to! For Obama was an enigma when relying on newspapers, blogs and television for essential information/questions answered. That’s a sad state of things when many people’s information outlet are these sources.

I needn’t delve into McCain’s history for it was easy to obtain. Not ot tmention the media actually discussed it! Go figure..

Obama sponsored the Democratic Republic of Congo Relief Act a bill for aid in Congo and ~ half dozen Acts which have passed or still awaiting to be signed into law. That’s it. Oh yeah, he didn’t want to vote 130 + times on difficult bills too. Do you get credit for not making decisions in your job, too?

The argument of the ‘capitalist’ system doing us in.. read comment #117 The Whale, they hit the nail on the head. FYI, the Democratic led Congress since ‘06 with Pelosi, Reid at the helm are leading the parade in finding ways to give the money to the auto industry. Coincidence? The President and majority of Republican Senators are saying ‘Nay’. Obama? He’s mum on the subject.

If you think the contrary is better to capitalism, attempt to live as you do now in Europe. Home, car, etc.,

The comments regarding McCain’s age are ridiculous. Joe Biden is 66, but 5 years younger. Not to mention Biden is so gaffe-tastic, Palin’s questionable comments pale in comparison.

When making a decision or voting for that matter, follow substance over banter. Relying on one’s emotions rather than knowledge in making decisions is counterproductive. Good intentions never outdo common sense. See: Jimmy Carter’s interference with Iran from the 70’s for prime example..

Lastly, I don’t want nor need a ’stimulus’ check or tax break. I don’t want a hand out. Suffice to say, many people feel they do. Aside from those layed off, what a sad state to adapt.

Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn – Benjamin Franklin

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:01 pm 195. SukieTawdry:

“It sends a signal that the Democratic Party has a wide umbrella, able to cover a myriad of voices.”

No, it sends the signal that Obama wants Lieberman to remain a de facto Democrat. And now Joe owes him one which will come in handy down the road.

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:22 pm 196. thegr8_1:

Google “Senate Resolution 511″ and read a few of the entries.

I would like to see HRC answer on her SOS application regarding entries to her diary around the time Monica had her desk job in the oval office.

Welcome to Clinton term three with a depression sprinkled in for good measure. Let Citigroup and the automakers go under. If we bailed out the horse and buggy companies we would still be shoveling horse manure off the streets.

Will we ever see Obama live in person to make a decision or will he be on video for four years reading off a TelePrompter what Soros wants him to read?

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:30 pm 197. Obama Criticised From the Left, Praised by the Right « America’s Watchtower:

[...] think. Sure there has been criticism from the right ( myself included naturally) but according to this article Barack Obama is facing his harshest criticism from the far left which is critical of [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 6:37 pm 198. jenny dias:

lulz. i had been going around saying that the democrats were the most partisan, knee-jerk, idiots around. i take it back. you guys win first place. its not the spelling, the misinformation, the venomous hate, or the inability to face well published facts. it’s the fact that the reason that the hard left is furious with obama is he’s acting less like “the most liberal
senator,” and more like a hawkish, pro-corporate republican. exactly your type of guy rapid conservatives. and yet you are too stupid to realize it.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:00 pm 199. Wahine:

To all Hard Lefties: You were forewarned.

Surely you remember the now-muzzled one saying, “Stand With Us.”

“He will be tested and it will look like he’s doing the wrong thing. But we need you in your communities to stand with us,” sayeth the Mouth.

That one was for you. You were his audience that day.

It meant this: “Sorry, guys, he lied and you’re not going to like it one little bit.” Remember, he prefaced those words with, “He’s tough, really tough.”

But don’t feel bad; I’m pretty sure we conservatives will be just as unhappy about something else real soon: his domestic agenda. It’s too much to hope we’ll get a break there too.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:01 pm 200. RAP:

People are missing the point of the selection of Hillary. If the O’s term is a failure as it most probably will be and Hillary is in the Senate she can run against him in 2012 as TK did against Carter. But if he brings her into the adminstration she will go down with it. Whatever you thing of the O’s character he is cunning and crafty.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:06 pm 201. David Stuber:

Look at these posts, passionate people laying blame on everyone but themselves. Calling the other guy the devil does not make you or your guy a saint. Hope without faith is nothing. But hope and faith without work is just unrealized potential. We will never survive as a country because no one feels they owe anything to anyone. We want money for nothing, everyone, from the regular guy to the CEO, we are all looking for what we can get, not what we can give. We don’t even know how anymore! Everyone is still looking for BO to see what he can do for them. He has made it, he got what he wanted by promising everyone he would give you something. Our current president did not get us into this mess, WE DID! Greed did! And BO cannot get us out of it because we will not let anyone get us out, because we cannot support anything in this country unless it does not cost us anything (I am not talking about our military) just the rest of us. This all started a long time ago, everytime you make a decision that is not based on values and principals you subtract. We have been doing it for years and now want to blame someone else for our bad decisions. This country will not turn until we all turn! It will not change until we all change. Looking at someone else and blaming them for making bad decisions when you have done the same thing is why we are where we are. BO will give us change, but not the change we need! Only we can do that for ourselves one person at a time and one good example at a time. My concern is we are all so dedicated to the money for nothing attitude it might just be too late! I hope we support BO better than we did our president. They both deserve it!!

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:09 pm 202. Hard Left:

[...] left DailyKos, called the decision to keep Lieberman as chairman of his committee

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:21 pm 203. dave in katy:

Well, we can look at this retreading of Clintonistas in two ways:

1: he is picking the best and brightest of the democratic side to fill out his team (and based on who he has picked so far – there seems to be a dearth of available options)

or 2: the junior senator from Illinois is only now being shown to be VERY junior, and has no ‘kitchen cabinet’ of advisers to choose from, and is forced to pick retreads from the Clinton era.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:24 pm 204. Pat J:

These blamers are amazing.

Obama hasn’t even been sworn in yet. He’s not president now. Nothing good or bad has been done under his watch. He’s inherited a stinking pile of crap courtesy of Bush. He can’t be blamed for the fluctuations in the stock market. He can’t be blamed for the rise in unemployment applications.

A lot of people are optimistic with the election of Obama. And sure, maybe overly optomistic. A lot of it appears to be “glassy eyed” hope that he is some sort of Messiah. He’s not. He’s not a Messiah and he’s not the AntiChrist. He’s the Anti-Bush. And that’s what this country needs right now.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:28 pm 205. Deet:

@166
“Obama is everyone’s president whether people who didn’t vote for him like it or not.”

I’ve been waiting eight years to say this.

He’s not my president.

Nov 21, 2008 - 7:28 pm 206. Clyde:

It’s been interesting watching Obama assemble his cabinet team over the past
couple of weeks. At first, there were a lot of kooky names floated around
by the far left, but so far, most of the people that have actually been
nominated have been retreads from the Bill Clinton administration; as I told
a friend, there are more retreads than a used tire store, and they’re no
more trustworthy than a used tire.

One blog post I read earlier today noted that Obama has never DONE anything, so unlike Clinton or Bush 43, he didn’t have his own mafia to bring with him from his home state. Who was he going to bring, Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright? Most of the remaining Carterites are doddering old men in their 80s, and that administration is still has the stench of failure attached to them. Who else was he going to pick except for a bunch of Clinton retreads and minor leaguers if he was going to find people with Washington experience? He needs experienced people in the executive branch if he wants to set the agenda, rather than having Pelosi and Reid poaching on his territory.

Anyway, it’s been amusing to read the statements of “concern” on left-wing
blogs about all of these centrists that Obama is naming. The useful idiots
aren’t feeling so useful any more. They may find that he has pulled a
bait-and-switch on them. We won’t really know until he takes office. But a
third Clinton administration sounds better than a first Obamarx
administration. I’m sure that Obama will do a lot of things that I disagree
with, but it may not be quite as disastrous as I initially feared.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:07 pm 207. vivo:

12. TomJW:

“4. vivo:

What do fear? The jewish cabal to rule the world? You’re laughable.”

That’s your idea, but no, I just don’t trust a sleazy guy like him, jumping sides every five minutes.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:16 pm 208. Jeff:

The honeymoon is definitely going to come to a quick end if Obama and his leftist illuminati ideals keep breaking his campaign promises at breakneck speed. He has already gone against several of them in less than three weeks since being elected.

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:23 pm 209. John Q. Public:

Before Public Education, the majority of Americans were illiterate. Today, with mandatory Public Education, the majority of Americans are functionally illiterate and ignorant of history, geography, science, literature, etc., etc. Yet they have the power to vote. These are the people who are easily manipulated and brain-washed.

These are the ‘masses’, the ‘public’, the ‘mobs.’ THEY have elected Obama. Easily influenced. Easily manipulated. A politician’s DREAM!! Products of Public Education!! Why do you think Obama and the Democrats aren’t in favor of ‘School Vouchers?’ However, Obama’s girls will go to a PRIVATE school! That’s because the Public Schools are so GREAT!!! He just wants to support the ‘poor’ PRIVATE SCHOOLS! That’s what I Love about politicans, like OBAMA! Say one thing, DO ANOTHER!! Blah, blah, blah!

Nov 21, 2008 - 8:25 pm 210. Left and proud:

Quit your whining. The election is over. Start working together to make the country and the world a better place.

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:17 pm 211. Clioman:

“These are not the Left Wingers that I knew.”

Nov 21, 2008 - 9:48 pm 212. Someone75:

Apparently everyone here it too stupid to understand what is really happening: The “Left” was never the kool-aid drinking bunch of morons that you all thought they were. Sure, they got behind their candidate during the election, but the election is over. Now we move on to larger things. Many liberals didn’t like certain things about Obama (myself included), and many of us on both sides (or, heaven forbid, the MIDDLE) will take issue with Obama on plenty.

You’d think it wouldn’t be that hard to understand.

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:24 pm 213. Rachel Peepers:

I’ve got to tip my hat to the brown eyed handsome man.

In the short time he’s spent getting the lowdown from the best and brightest Clinton people, President Elect Obama has come to some well-founded, unbiased, fact based conclusions.

To begin with, the undeniable truth that President Bush is vastly under rated in regard to his job performance while serving as commander in chief.

As Barack mentioned to Rahm Emanuel, finally the mission has been accomplished. The surge worked. The war in Iraq is virtually won and there hasn’t been an attack on U.S. soil since 9/11.

Barack Obama also has grown to respect three Bush appointees, including Michael Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, which is a shot across the bow of any Progressive Extremist who expected Pres. Elect Obama to consider snatching defeat from victory in Iraq. Over the next 16 months, many National Guard units will come home. Some Reserve units will, too. However, most regular Army, Marine and Air Force troops will remain.

The appointment of Hillary Clinton who supported almost all of George Bush policies vis a vie Iraq, Iran, North Korea and Syria, not to mention the Bush doctrine, further demonstrates that all the middle of the road foreign policy positions that Hillary so eloquently embraced during the primaries, thanks to the Hillary people further explaining them to Barack, have finally sunk in.

Of course, butting heads with and cutting loose from the loon left wing of the party has a political price.

Yet, Obama’s shrewd mind has solved that. Reportedly, I can’t be 100% sure, the President Elect, in 2012, is also cutting adrift his only campaign weak spot, Joe Biden.

If sources prove true, Obama is offering the VP post in the 2012 election to Mrs. Clinton.

Bad news for the Republicans, but almost sure to sew up Obama’s eight year White House Presidential career. And the Clintons and their staffs get what they want; In 2016, the nomination will be Hillary’s to take or leave.

John Kennedy. Bill Clinton. Barack Obama. In my opinion, the smartest politicians around Washington, around the country and the globe.

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:31 pm 214. Blogs For Victory » Kook Left Discovers the Meaning of “Chump”:

[...] that the kook left actually thought that by backing Obama, they’d be brought in to run things: In two politically shrewd bids to [...]

Nov 21, 2008 - 10:49 pm 215. Rachel Peepers:

That ever lived.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:04 pm 216. Jim Treacher:

So, apparently some people don’t know what a landslide is.

Nov 21, 2008 - 11:53 pm 217. warbaby:

No, but they’re gonna know what a shitstorm is.

Nov 22, 2008 - 1:06 am 218. AnninCA:

Many Obama voters truly believed every ounce of campaign rhetoric. It must be embarassing to have believed so fervently that Hillary, indeed, was merely serving tea and had no foreign policy experience only now to realize that Obama obviously didn’t really believe his own message.

They are mad because they were so easily duped.

Nov 22, 2008 - 6:07 am 219. Left and proud:

I am relieved to see the “s***storm” during the last 8 years finally coming to an end. I realize that it is going to get worse before it gets better. Tough circumstances produce strong and resilient people. Being devisive does not help locally or globally. I accepted and supported Bush as my president when he came into office, but it is time for change. Our society has become filled with greed, and lack of concern about values and helping others.
I am a democrat, my husband is a republican and former military. We both voted for Obama. It makes me smile to see how crazed people become by the use of the word “left”, and their definition of what it means to them. Look up karma.

Nov 22, 2008 - 6:08 am 220. Hard Left:

[...] up to defend him might be surprised at how much political capital they expended in doing so. Pajamas Media » Hard Left’s Honeymoon with Obama Is Already Over So much for the sham of tolerance and [...]

Nov 22, 2008 - 6:43 am 221. Joe Bison:

This is not the Obama I knew.

Nov 22, 2008 - 8:20 am 222. kcom:

Clyde: “One blog post I read earlier today noted that Obama has never DONE anything, so unlike Clinton or Bush 43, he didn’t have his own mafia to bring with him from his home state.”

I’ve thought before that that’s the surest proof that he hasn’t accomplished anything substantive. Anyone who has accomplished anything at a high national level has never done it alone, but only through a network of allies and like-minded supporters. Obama has no “people” to turn to at this time because he’s got no record of accomplishment. It takes only one man to make a speech, but it takes a lot more to get something done. Therefore he’s reduced to cherrypicking members of the Clinton team, as they’re the only ones he knows with a track record of doing anything.

Left and Proud: “Our society has become filled with greed, and lack of concern about values and helping others.”

I’d honestly like to see you prove that. It’s easy to say but I don’t think you can come up with anything objective to back your point. In my experience, US society is one of the most generous ever and hasn’t changed since the last administration or the one before that. There are numerous (almost uncountable) groups dedicated to helping others, both here and abroad. Americans donate more money to charity than any othe people on the face of the earth. Check out this link detailing charitable donations in the year 2006, deep in the heart of the Bush administration, no less.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-06-25-charitable_N.htm

Here is a quote or two. “Gaudiani said Americans give twice as much as the next most charitable country…”, “What people find especially interesting about this, and it’s true year after year, that such a high percentage comes from individual donors,”

I think you’re making some rather uninformed slurs against America and Americans and you ought not to be proud of that.

Nov 22, 2008 - 8:23 am 223. Flyingright:

shawn:

ha what a joke. sorry, liberals will complain when they dont like things…since it is always country first, not party first, we will not pretend that a president is making wise decisions just to prop up an ideology (unlike republicans). But this does not mean that we want him replaced or vanquished, as we know from the last 8 years how bad the alternative can be for our country….so get out the popcorn all you rightwingers and enjoy the show…because its in your seats where you will be for at least the next 8 years and probably longer. do hope you like popcorn, fools.

Nov 21, 2008 – 10:55 am

Really?!! Gee, and liberals didn’t circle the wagons when Clinton LIED about his hanky-panky sessions with Monica Lewinsky. Of course not, because they wouldn’t want to be accused of supporting an ideology.

Just because conservatives didn’t engage in daily, frothing-at-the-mouth BDS, don’t kid yourself into thinking there was no vocal criticism when criticism was due.

Nov 22, 2008 - 8:28 am 224. Left and proud:

kcom:

Are you kidding me? No greed? How about the mortgage lenders, or the price of gas a month ago, or credit card debt, or the disaster on Wall Street, or Ford, Chrysler or GM. (Search Bob Nardelli) Can you say “bailouts”?

“Charity” is not just about giving, it’s about doing. It is about helping people, and teaching your children to help people. Any idea of what most of the degreed professionals make working at those organization that are “dedicated to helping others”? Nothing near what the people working at those automakers were making. I work for a non profit involved in helping families and children. It is a choice I make because at the end of most days, I go home feeling good about what I did that day. Health insurance premiums are going up and states are cutting funding, eliminating jobs and services. So while you say donations are abundant, everyday I see people that need help. The system needs to be fixed, but that’s another story.

Nov 22, 2008 - 10:43 am 225. Wahine:

Keep the Hope. Here it is again, lest you forget, as I had:

“This was the moment when the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal. This was the moment…this was the time…when we came together to remake this great nation.”

Barack Obama,
Democratic Nominee,
Messiah

P.S. Did he just promise to “remake this great nation” into a ‘really lousy one’?

Nov 22, 2008 - 11:34 am 226. sestamibi:

Some big-time bloggers who thought that they were emperors have just been taken down a peg, These bloggers thought that the President-Elect owed his election only to them. Sorry; the people who voted for Obama were, apparently, not all Daily Kosites and the like. That’s a good thing.

Nov 22, 2008 - 12:15 pm 227. kcom:

No, I am not kidding. You haven’t proven your contention at all. “Our society has become filled with greed, and lack of concern about values and helping others.” Our society might have it’s share of greed and every other problem that every other country has (and, believe me, we wouldn’t win the global greed contest if there was such a thing) but there is no lack of concern about helping others. Again, I’ll point to the article I linked. Charitable contributions for 2006 went up even after the spike caused by Katrina, the tsunami and other unusual events in the years before. Just read any study of charity and you’ll see you’re living in a very generous country, both financially and in spirit. And your comparison of commercial CEO salaries to non-profits is meaningless and is no indication of the generosity of the average American (or any American, really). Complain all you want about legitmiate problems, but I don’t think in fairness you should tar and feather the whole country unfairly to make your point. I can just as easily make the point, and have, that the country is filled with people having and actively demonstrating concern for others – people on both sides of the political divide, I might add.

Nov 22, 2008 - 12:28 pm 228. dragonfly:

There are two important things the Hard-left Obamites and a lot of others fail to understand:

1. Obama is NOT in charge. He is accepting the judgement of the staff and handlers who managed his successful campaign. They depended on his charisma and oratory, but he’s their man – they are not his lackeys.

You have elected a figurehead, not a leader.

2. Obamas campaign attracted all sorts of long-time Democrat hacks, from the Kennedy camp, the Gore camp, the Kerry camp, and the Clinton camp, to serve as “advisors” and “cnsultants”. The number is huge. And they all came on board for one reason, and it wasn’t belief in his platform, which was boiler-plate. It was because they sensed he was a winner, and they wanted to be on his side when the goodies got given out. They are not loyal to The One. They are looking out for Number One. And these are the people he has to pick from – they’re the ones with the experience. He sure can’t do what he’d really ike to do – put Ayers in his cabinet as Secretary of Education.

In a situation that demands a skilled leader, we’ve got a vainglorious socialist mouth-piece. It can’t help being a shambles.

2.

Nov 22, 2008 - 2:17 pm 229. Amy:

I’m amazed at some of the comments I see from both sides here. To be honest, Barack Obama was a blank screen on which many people projected their ideals/hopes/beliefs/dreams onto. That’s why things like “change” and “hope” sounded so good to so many people. That’s why independents and even some used-to-be-republicans voted for him. They could project their own version of “hope” and “change” on a man who had not defined those two words. Because of this, many people center, right and left who voted for him, will come up sorely disappointed in what he does or doesn’t do. They never stopped to listen to his past comments or look into his past positions, they simply believed in “hope” and “change” whatever that meant to them.
Now he’s picking his cabinet and people are up in arms because that cabinet looks a bit like the Clinton years. Why? Did you honestly expect something different, and if so, what? When did Obama ever say he was going to select people who agreed with you? I don’t remember him every saying any such thing. I only really remember him promising change, and the truth is, his cabinet picks are a change from the last 8 years. He’s giving you change, just not the change you reflected on the blank screen.
To those who say that we can’t blame things on him because he’s not President yet? Um, no he hasn’t been sworn in, but the people looking for leadership are now looking to him, whether he’s taken the oath or not. If the market didn’t fall based on the fact that the financial sector isn’t sure what he’ll do, please explain how the market rose on Friday at the LEAK of who he might be to be SecTreas? The Market was unstable, and because Obama never did a really good job of outlining how he intended to fix the mess the financial markets are in, the markets tanked on the uncertainty. As soon as there was “some” certainty, they tried to make a comeback. Once Obama specifies his tax plan, the markets will react to that, but they will continue to be uncertain while they are not sure exactly what he’s going to do.
With that said, I didn’t vote for him, but I’m willing to play the wait and see game. I don’t have much “hope”, but then I wasn’t projecting my hopes onto a man, I don’t believe in what he really stands for (from what I could find out…truth is,finding out exactly where Obama stands on many things is difficult information to come by). But I will wait, and I will see. Becasue, frankly, I don’t want to be like those hard left people. I want to be what I’ve always claimed to be. Better than that. I do pray daily that he proves me wrong.

Nov 22, 2008 - 4:30 pm 230. This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Blog Archive » Does Anyone See a Pattern Here?:

[...] that the moonbats on the left are being thrown under the bus. They are already crying about the avalanche of broken promises from the [...]

Nov 22, 2008 - 6:01 pm 231. Ann:

232, Amy, After watching him for 24 months you still are going to “wait and see”. Wow. You must be not only drinking the koolaid, but bathing in it.

Nov 22, 2008 - 6:37 pm 232. Left Already Disappointed With Choosing Obama : Stop The ACLU:

[...] the choice was when they chose Obama. Now that Obama has the power, its beginning to look like the honeymoon is over. Hopefully this will turn out to be a good thing for the rest of us, but don’t get your hopes [...]

Nov 23, 2008 - 12:27 am 233. The Strata-Sphere » The Democrat Honeymoon Over Before It Even Starts?:

[...] (Biden should have been a big clue as to who Obama would select to lead the nation). And given the highly negative responses to Obama’s selections on the left I would say he is losing his base, just as Bush lost the [...]

Nov 23, 2008 - 6:51 am 234. drjohn:

I thought I was going to hate the Obama Presidency, but this is shaping up to be entertaining.

Nov 23, 2008 - 7:57 am 235. The Historian:

UNIONS: FROM FAIR TO FASCIST
“Card check” legislation means it will be labor unions that will be unfairly exploiting American working families. That is fascism, not freedom. More at this link:

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/unions-from-fair-to-fascist.html

Nov 23, 2008 - 12:55 pm 236. Mario:

Get a clue “hard left,” this is America. Even Obama realized that his rise was only possible in America—NOT socialist canada, france, china, cuba, north korea, iran, germany or whatever else commie country that the left boasts about so often. The American system works. The hard left is comprised of trust fund brats and celebrities, non of whom have ever heard a dime in their lives. Obama will realize the American people–not the germans–are who elected him into office and will support American ways in the long run. Why would he advocate for systems–like those in europe–where minorities lanquish on the vine or in ghettos? Even Obama has to pause, step back, look at America and say, “Damn, what a country!”

Nov 23, 2008 - 4:51 pm 237. Achillea:

“I am relieved to see the “s***storm” during the last 8 years finally coming to an end.”

Don’t count on it. The poo-flinging flying monkeys of the left aren’t going to give up their only skill.

Nov 23, 2008 - 7:40 pm 238. Dr. Lumplevin:

“Barack Obama backed Senator Joseph Lieberman’s proposition to retain chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee,…” (Halpren)

I am in shock and outrage that Obama would still associate with this treasonous man. Lieberman remains defiant and unrepentant. Just yesterday he said, “I don’t regret setting off this political bomb by supporting my friend, Sen. McCain. I feel I didn’t do enough.”
http://lumpsfromtheleft.blogspot.com/

Nov 23, 2008 - 10:42 pm 239. Lowered expectations « O Insurgente:

[...] como: Internacional, Política — Miguel @ 10:40 am A dois meses de ser empossado, Obama já começa a desiludir alguns dos seus [...]

Nov 24, 2008 - 2:42 am 240. sfcmac:

“It sends a signal that the Democratic Party has a wide umbrella, able to cover a myriad of voices”

That’s satire, right? What’s amusing, is the left doesn’t think Obama is leftwing ENOUGH. With the way he’s going to take this country to hell in a hand basket through his socialist ’spread the wealth’ crap, they’ll be back in love with him in no time.

Nov 24, 2008 - 9:45 am 241. sfcmac:

@left and proud:

Spaeaking of “s***storm”, we’ll see how you like four years of Obamanation. So you and your husband voted for Obama. Congratulations, sweetpea. You’re getting the Socialist States of America you wanted. BTW: I’m a 30-year retired Army veteran with 2 Iraq tours. I feel sorry for the military personnel who will be forced to endure 4 years of Obama. He’ll make Jimmy Carter look like a foreign policy genius.

Nov 24, 2008 - 9:52 am 242. ¿Pero esto qué es? ¿Dónde está el Obama al que votaron? « Sarah Palin en Español:

[...] Pero hay más reacciones que recopilan Critteden y Ace, así como Daniel Harper en Pajamas Media: [...]

Nov 24, 2008 - 3:01 pm 243. AdrianS:

SIGN THE PETITION TO FORCE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA TO PRESENT HIS QUALIFICATIONS.

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

To: Electoral College, Congress of the United States, Federal Elections Commission, U.S. Supreme Court, President of the United States, other controlling legal authorities

Whereas, by requirement of the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, no one can be sworn into office as president of the United States without being a natural born citizen;

Whereas, there is sufficient controversy within the citizenry of the United States as to whether presidential election winner Barack Obama was actually born in Hawaii as he claims;

Whereas, Barack Obama has refused repeated calls to release publicly his entire Hawaiian birth certificate, which would include the actual hospital that performed the delivery;

Whereas, lawsuits filed in several states seeking only proof of the basic minimal standard of eligibility have been rebuffed;

Whereas, Hawaii at the time of Obama’s birth allowed births that took place in foreign countries to be registered in Hawaii;

Whereas, concerns that our government is not taking this constitutional question seriously will result in diminished confidence in our system of free and fair elections;

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

The above article appears on WorldNetDaily.

Nov 25, 2008 - 9:46 am 244. Steve P.:

B Dubya: “The wisdom of the crowd has already spoken. Your POTUS elect has been evaluated by the market and it is grading him by tanking. Since September 29th, the economy has been going to hell with the certain knowlege that BHO would be sworn in on the 20th of January. This dead and necrotic economy is not GWB’s, honey, it’s Obama’s. The market wold have gone to 14000 plus with assurance that McCain had sewed up the election.”

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! This gets the award for the stupidest post I have read on this board yet!

Nov 25, 2008 - 2:15 pm 245. Will Becker:

Did we think this wouldn’t happen? Let the complaining begin.

Nov 25, 2008 - 5:05 pm 246. Ms Attitude:

It’s amazing how the Obama supporters are still coming on here letting us know that they are still hypnotized by the glitz and glamour. They fail to realize that the stock market is a forward looking tool. They are still expecting change and hope..WTH? Some are saying that we win just by having a black man in office….excuse me, but race has nothing to do with running a country!

Don’t worry Obama supporters, we will give him a chance, we have no choice. We are not stupid, we know this! But there is a thing called checks and balances and we have every right to point out everything he does wrong. Maybe you should stop spewing your praises and question some of his decisions. These decisions that he is making right do reflect what is to come beginning January 20. So stop saying, “he’s not the president yet.” Do you truly not understand or are you just hard-headed?

Nov 26, 2008 - 6:10 am 247. Vaughn Burckard:

Useful idiots, I believe is the term, . Do they really think that Obama or any other politician is going to steer the country that far left? These fools have been used by every leftist leader in history.

Nov 27, 2008 - 6:09 am 248. BBF:

So we can all understand HOW OBAMA GOT ELECTED:

http://www.howobamagotelected.com/

Dec 8, 2008 - 12:25 pm 249. Kook Left Discovers the Meaning of “Chump - Barack Obama” | Barack Obama - Sharpy News:

[...] that the kook left actually thought that by backing Obama, they’d be brought in to run things: In two politically shrewd bids to [...]

Dec 30, 2008 - 2:25 am

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