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1. Francesca Bellone:

Dear Mr. Stephen (or should I say Suleiman) Schwartz….You background is on the political left, but now you describe youself as a neoconservative…on top of that you are a Muslim …my first impression is that you are not being very objective considering that there are always two sides of the coin.

Feb 21, 2008 - 1:39 pm 2. RE:

I’m surprised that Pajamas Media features this hateful screed so prominently.

The US never ever should have gotten involved in the Balkans.
The Bush Administration should not be involved in establishing little jihad bases in Europe.

The huge chip on Mr Schwartz’s shoulder tends to make me even more sympathetic with the Serbs.
We never should have bombed them.

Feb 21, 2008 - 1:40 pm 3. rod harvard:

please at the very least provide citations for your article, which in its present form represents an emotional twist to the truth doing quite an injustice not only to the people of the Balkans, but also the very history itself. May I ask where you obtained your education if any?

Feb 21, 2008 - 1:54 pm 4. V.M.:

Sir need I remind you before defining Serbia as fascist, that this country fought against Hitler’s NAZIs while all of the surrounding Balkan countries joined him.

Feb 21, 2008 - 1:58 pm 5. Bikash Soidel:

This is the most incredibly honest essay I’ve ever read as it pertains to the Serbs.

Stephen: You also should have made mention of how the Serbs historical fondness for self-aggrandizing delusions etc led them to grotesquely propagandize about Dubrovnik’s historical ties with Serbia (at the turn of the 20th century–when the yoke of the Ottomans started to recede.)

I’m just disgusted by it all. And I can certainly speak for the majority of Europeans as well.

Feb 21, 2008 - 2:01 pm 6. RE:

VM,

You are correct to bring that up. Mr Schwartz omits the Muslim Nazi SS division known as the Handzar Division (the 13th SS Division - all Muslim).

Another name to Google is Mufti Hajj Amin al-Husseini.

This article is so biased that any decent editor would have it thrown out for being so biased that it qualifies as propaganda.

Feb 21, 2008 - 2:31 pm 7. J.K.:

An “outstanding” piece of vicious and hateful propaganda. A “New” history, we used to say in the good old communist Poland: one never knows what is going to happen yesterday. Goebbels and Stalin would love this despicable piece of rubbish. Congratulation to both: the “author” and the publisher.

Feb 21, 2008 - 2:39 pm 8. Coisty:

The USA helps amputate a large section of Serbian territory in violation of international law after sham negotiations.

The USA kills thousands of Serbs during its 1999 bombing campaign because the serbs were too tough at fighting terrorism.

The USA assists Croatia in Operation Storm ethnically cleansing the Serb population.

The USA spends most of the decade winking at the ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo.

A couple of hundred Serbs get angry and attack the US Embassy.

Fascist America-hating Nazi Serbs! Who the hell do they think they are attacking poor innocent America?

Feb 21, 2008 - 2:40 pm 9. Momcilo Djujic:

Listen dum dum, let me reeducate your audience. Tito’s partisans were the enemy, Draza’s Chetniks were USA’s allies. Draza not Tito rescued 500 American airmen and returned them home. Those charges that Draza helped out Hitler were later proven to be false and the US govt. apologized for letting Draza’s execution happen. As an American Serb, there is written evidence from Tito himself and his henchmen from 1954 that he had plannned to spread communism in America. Yet Communism is DEAD, so is Tito and Draza’s Democratic dream is one that lives here in the USA and is taking shape back in Serbia. Get real it’s documented that Partisans were and always have been the enemy.

Feb 21, 2008 - 2:53 pm 10. Coisty:

The first commentator is right: this is an astonishingly hateful piece. I would like every pro-Western/Israel Serb to read this pack of lies to show them how deluded they were in thinking that if they kissed up to the Americans, EU. and Israel their concerns would be taken under consideration. A lesson learned.

Feb 21, 2008 - 2:58 pm 11. Greg:

When I was deployed to Kosovo in 1999 our original mission was to protect the Albanians from the Serbs. Within a month it was protecting Serbs from the Albanians. The Albanians regularly executed Serbs, mostly with a single shot to the base of the skull. They regularly fired mortars into Serbian towns. Killed Serbian community leaders who I know were working for peace in their areas. They also had a fondness for blowing up churches.

Please explain that in your view of “Serbs bad, Albanians good.” The story of Kosovo is a lot more complex then your article leads one to believe.

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:05 pm 12. Bugs:

Have to say it doesn’t surprise me. Never mind what the above Slavophiles say - on purely practical grounds we should have stayed out of this. Not one penny of aid, not one drop of blood from America. Serbs and Kosovars are grown-ups - let them solve their own problems.

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:07 pm 13. JK:

It seems you celebrate that the serbs will be the black hole of europe for the future.

Starting from this point , someone can only understand that you make just propaganda and/or you just read the american side of the story.

What a pity.
And for sure you need to read some history of the past. Serbs I believe have paid enough of their crimes before 10-15 years .
But nobody can put their whole history in the grave.

Biggest problem for the whole world is that unfortunately the big guys in US, share similar ideas like yours for whole nations and they punish them accordingly.

bravo. shame on you.

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:14 pm 14. JK:

It seems you celebrate that the serbs will be the black hole of europe for the future.

Starting from this point , someone can only understand that you make just propaganda and/or you just read the american side of the story.

What a pity.
And for sure you need to read some history of the past. Serbs I believe have paid enough of their crimes before 10-15 years .
But nobody can put their whole history in the grave.

Biggest problem for the whole world is that unfortunately the big guys in US, share similar ideas like yours for whole nations and they punish them accordingly.

bravo. shame on you.

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:18 pm 15. Tom:

This shows that Balkans are the same. Albanians, serbs and croats the same sh.. Look at serbs now burning US flags like palestinians in middle east (they claim to be Christians right). Two world wars were initiated in Balkans. I lived there 25 years. Don’t be foolish to find the good and the bad in this mess. They are all the same. Unbelivers (no matter what they say). There are no real Christians, muslims etc in Balkans. They are all liars. They kill their neigbours without any problem. The rest is just propaganda.

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:21 pm 16. Nemanja:

Nothing but bunch of lies in this text. To all visitors: Go read news on some other website. This one is crap.

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:37 pm 17. Harold:

This is what people should be doing to every U.S. embassy (read: CIA nest) in every capital in the world.

Burn baby burn! Disco inferno!

Burn baby burn! Burn that mother down!

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:43 pm 18. Beng:

copy/paste “Balkans expert Stephen Schwartz”

Bwahahaha. I didn’t laugh this much, well i don’t know, maybe weeks ago. So much BS on one place, i mean, great imagination. You could probably be a good screenplay writer.

RE: TOM

No, actually only one world war started on Balkans. Second started when Gemany atacked Poland in 1939. so….

Feb 21, 2008 - 3:56 pm 19. Stojiljkovic:

This so called Balkan expert is just another Serb hater in a row…nothing new…and tom…we are really sorry for burning down those flags,wer just litle pissed cuz u ( also christian state ) give independence to a new muslim country that will sooner or later,send more suicide bombers to NY and US…u have no right to call us faithless while ur supporting something like this…dumbass…if u want to argue with me about something u got my mail…id really like to see the opinion of moronic Westerners who forgot their brothers in arms from both world wars…

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:10 pm 20. Hierodeacon Justin:

What about the 100,000 Serbs who peacefully marched in support of their homeland, which has just been stolen from them? They are the real heroes!

Don’t forget about the thousands of Serbs murdered by the Croatian and Albanian fascists during WWII. According the the Wikipedia 32,000 Jews, 40,000 Roma and maybe 700,000 Serbs were murdered by the Ustashi. The Nazis created “Greater Albania” with it’s own SS unit called “Skanderbeg”. They did a very good job of cleansing Kosovo of all non-Albanians. But all of this pretty common knowledge.

I’m not supporting what Milosovic did, by the way. He was a monster who led his people down the wrong path.

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:10 pm 21. Dan:

How is it this Schwartz prostitute is inflicted on us continually, whether here, TechCentralStation, or the Weekly Standard, among others?

The idea that a nation which has had little to live on but its history for almost the entirety of its existence ought to peacably and resignedly swallow the loss of its Jerusalem - and that loss being to the historical enemy, who almost within living memory had been the historical oppressor - is so much bull**** I almost wish an angry mob of Serbs on Schwartz - who is, again, a prostitute. The notion that such a response is evidence of some sort of derangement is not reasonable, it is Decadence. One doesn’t have to be a hardcore Serb slavophile to sympathize with the Serbs here. I’d be pissed off too.

“Here, Mexicans: here, you take Philadelphia, because you are now the majority by a wide margin - it’s only democratic, and therefore only fair. All the rest of you - you are obviously fascist bigots!”

Please, stop publishing this buffoon.

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:20 pm 22. Stojiljkovic:

there you go,feel free to send me all kinds of pro western crap fichony@hotmail.com ill be glad to answer u…

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:20 pm 23. Dejan from serbia:

QUOTE:But I digress. Serbs are indomitable fighters. They were tough and courageous when they sold out the Jews, making Belgrade the first officially “judenrein” city in Europe. They were hardy and principled when their bogus patriots, the Mihailovic Chetniks of World War II, collaborated with the Italian and German occupiers. They claimed the Chetnik terrorists fought the Nazis and were betrayed when the Allies supported Tito’s Partisans. Serbs did not join the Partisans until it was clear the Nazis were losing. The Chetniks were too busy cutting the throats of elderly Bosnian Muslim women. The Partisans - mainly Slovenes, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians - fought for our side.

well mr. Schwartz, you got it all wrong considering serbian role during the WWII. First, miss. Condoleezza Rice said yeastrday that Serbs were american alies in WWI and WW2. I think she knows it better than you. second, general Dragoljub Mihajlovic and his chetnics were decorated by american president Trooman in 1948 for saving more than 500 american pilots during the WW2.. third, percentage of serbs in partisan units were 95% in the winter of 1943. And your loving croats and muslims took part in 260 000 ustasha (croatian nazzi units) who pratcited genocide on serbian civilian population in so called INDEPENDENT STATE OF CROATIA as well as fighting red army around Stalingrad. Your loving Albanians took part in SS unit Skender Beg practicing killing Serbs in Kosovo and metohija. Muslims too had their own SS (nazzi) Handzar (the sword) division, fighting partisan, Serbian chetniks and killing Serbian civililan population in bosnia. So you should check once more your history books. You missed something..

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:23 pm 24. Timmy:

I don’t understand what the big deal is. I just talked to Archduke Ferdinand and he said there is no reason to worry about violent outbursts in Belgrade.

Nothing to worry about.

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:24 pm 25. what a joke:

“‘Heroic’ Serbs”

What is so heroic about getting DRUNK, breaking into building on foreign land and setting fires?

oh, and not to mention someone dying in the process.

This article and those who wrote it are a joke.

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:36 pm 26. P.A.:

I’ve really enjoyed reading Pajamas Media for several months now. Its refreshing to get a different viewpoint on current events from people who are 1)not MSM, and 2) often having some personal familiarity with the issue.

This article though, regardless of the veracity of its claims was very difficult for me to read because of its vitriol. This does not represent what Pajamas Media stands for, and reads more like something you might find on Daily Kos or some place like that.

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:37 pm 27. NB:

I am saddened by your article, Mr Schwartz. I was raised by my parents, who legally emigrated to the US from Serbia in the 1950s, that Americans are our friends. Your article sounds mean spirited with intentions to hurt Serbian people. I don’t intend to ever come back to this website or read your articles.

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:56 pm 28. Saxonman:

I agree with most of the comments on this one-sided piece of vitriol. It’s certainly hard to tell the good guys from the bad in this mess, but a little research shows that during the Bosnia war the muslim gangsters running the government, led by Alija Izetbegovic, conned the world into believing they were peaceful souls while they were simultaneously inviting every islamic terrorist organization on the planet to set up shop while gangs set out to murder anyone who didn’t go along with the program. They also permitted atrocities like Srebrenica to occur (read “Unholy Terror” by John Schindler) because slaughtered muslims had propoganda value. Now Bosnia, offically an islamic state, is a “blackhole” of crime, corruption, arms trafficing, money laundering, and Arab-Wahabbist infiltration with cells feverishly preparing for the next wave of jihad. With a newly minted islamic state next door, Bosnians must be pleased with this development. Together, they can garner even more sympathy and money from a befuddled West to use against us and spread the chaos they so love. God help us.

Feb 21, 2008 - 4:58 pm 29. NB:

Here’s a quote I found about Stephen Schwartz on http://www.antiwar.com. Sounds like he’s a looney bird without a life (now I really am going to go back to my life):

From the May 6, 1987 story in the San Francisco Examiner:

“When ‘New Age Rightist’ Stephen Schwartz discovered graffiti calling him ‘the philosophical whore of North Beach,’ the former Trotskyite turned red with rage. He uncapped his felt-tipped pen and was printing a reply to the scurrilous scribblings when he was busted by Mayor Feinstein’s anti-graffiti police squad on a charge of malicious mischief, defacing the wall of a Vallejo Street construction site.

“Schwartz…has demanded a trial to exonerate his exercise of free speech.

“‘I was just going to answer that I was not the philosophical whore of North Beach,’ said Schwartz, 37.”

Feb 21, 2008 - 5:14 pm 30. Candidus:

The attack on the American embassy was obviously a mistake. The Serbs must have used outdated maps in planning their protest.

Feb 21, 2008 - 5:16 pm 31. john (Saskatoon, CA):

Wow, thank you so much Mr. Schwartz for that hateful screed! I feel so much more informed now than I did a few blissful moments before reading an emotional, and badly-written diatribe tarring an entire ethnic group with the same brush. Shame on you! It’s bad enough that it’s unreasonable and factually inaccurate, but worse that you don’t even have a sense of style.

I’m not sure of Michael Totten’s motives for linking this from Instapundit, but I know that next time I see your name, I won’t exactly have high expectations of the content. Please, for your own dignity, and once you’ve come down from your righteous indignation against Serbs, delete this post, and hope that only a few people have seen this offensive, and ridiculous piece of vile verbiage.

Feb 21, 2008 - 5:22 pm 32. Annony:

Uhh, Timmy….that was Sarajevo (as in islamic Bosnia), not Belgrade. Idiot.

Feb 21, 2008 - 5:30 pm 33. craig:

I hold no affection for the Serbs, but it was foolish of the USA to recognize another Moslem state. Give them five years and they’ll be calling us the Great Satan and plotting jihad like all the rest. Gratitude toward the infidel is against the Mohammedan religion, and so we shouldn’t expect anything but a stab in the back from Kosovars.

Feb 21, 2008 - 5:38 pm 34. P.M.:

I have to say that this article is a typical example of western bias towards the serbian people. This whole article is an insult to serbian culture, heritage and its people. The wording of the author clearly state that he hates the serbian nation and supports the american propaganda into manipulating the whole world into hating the serbian people. What the author stated of serbs killing childern and old people is completely incorrect. What actually happened is that serbs were slaughtered in places like Jasenovac(im pretty sure that the author hasnt even heard of this place)and in places all ardoung ex-yugoslavia for beeing serbian. Again the author displays american bias towards the serbian nation. Mr.Schwartz you should be ashamed for revealing your hate on the serbian people

Feb 21, 2008 - 5:40 pm 35. cottus:

I hate to say it, being the uninformed, isolationist crude American that I am, but people with a whole lot of weird vowels in their names should realize nobody cares. Nobody cares what happened to your granddaddy back in the old country. Nobody cares anymore what weird foreign policy canards were thrown out by the Clintons to take the Lewinsky stuff off the front pages, etc. Those convoluted, weird rationales used by folks in the Balkans to justify their hatreds and killings are just unconceivable to us.

Feb 21, 2008 - 6:01 pm 36. Herr Morgenholz:

This article is, in a word, crap. Where did PJM find Abu-Steve, anyway?

Feb 21, 2008 - 6:12 pm 37. Cody:

Listen, I’m happy for the Albanian Kosovars and angry with the Serbian reaction. But this article is nothing more than ethnic hatred.

Feb 21, 2008 - 6:18 pm 38. Zbyszek:

Dear Pajamas Media

I have to say that Mr.Stephen Schwartz is laying and twisting a history. He commits a hate crime against Serbian nation saying:

“But I digress. Serbs are indomitable fighters. They were tough and courageous when they sold out the Jews, making Belgrade the first officially “judenrein” city in Europe.”

His twist of history is obvious. Just take a look:

http://www.jewish-heritage-europe.eu/country/serbia/serbia1.htm

JEWISH HERITAGE EUROPE

An Online Resource Centre

SERBIA 1

Jewish Heritage in Serbia - General

[...]

When the new nation of Yugoslavia was created following the First World War, Serbian Jews found themselves in a federation of previously separate states, each with its own Jewish populations, organisations and customs. With their mixed heritage and prosperous communities, Serbian Jews took a leadership role in the state. Destruction of the Jews of this twenty-three year-old nation commenced with the German invasion and occupation of Serbia in April 1941. This period of persecution and murder had three phases: from late April to August 1941, when the German administration began a legal campaign restricting Jews’ freedoms; from August to December 1941, when the uprising of the Serbs against the Germans led to brutal crackdowns against all Serbs, including Jews, and many were imprisoned or murdered; and from December 1941 to May 1942, when the Germans decided to concentrate surviving Jews (between 7,500 and 8,000 people) in the Sajmište concentration camp. Here, from March to May of 1942, all Jewish inmates were killed, mostly using poison gas. In August, a German report stated that ‘the problem of Jews and Gypsies has been solved; Serbia is the only country where this problem no longer exists’. Belgrade was the first city in Europe officially declared Judenrein - that is, officially ‘free’ of Jews. A number of Yugoslav Jews who managed to evade the round-ups and camps subsequently distinguished themselves in the partisan struggle against the Nazis.

Feb 21, 2008 - 6:39 pm 39. julio silva cunha:

I thought the bosnian muslins faugth with Hitler!!!The hantchar division commanded by mufti Hussein…but we know that certain americans are just serbiaphobes.

Did you payed attention to the way the author of this piece of propaganda described the serbs? Are we talking about people or monsters? Imagine if I start saying the americans this, the americans that!!!

Please, This site is great but is so “touchy” when it envolves serbia. No one likes to see their embassies burned but what about your country bombed and destroyed by american bombs?

Feb 21, 2008 - 6:41 pm 40. johnm:

This is nothing but but a HATE filled rant written by someone with an axe to grind.

Fact 1. the Americans forcibly annexed Kosovo from Serbia which had been part of Serbia for thousands of years.

How would you feel if your own country was carved up in such a way

and this little gem:

“Serbs hate Muslims because Muslims wash before praying.”

No how about they hate them because the Muslims would steal their children to be in incorporate into the Janised army or just sold as slaves for profit

who the hell is the Stephen Schwartz and shame on PM for letting such rubbish slip through

Feb 21, 2008 - 7:09 pm 41. TJ:

Apparently the Serbs are no better than the Iranians when it comes to respecting foreign embassies. Sad.

Feb 21, 2008 - 7:10 pm 42. Mary Stella:

Your story is quite onesided and would have appreciated if you had this story co-authored with a Christian Orthodox Serb. The Christian orthodox serbians, their genocide during second world war, by pro-Nazi Croats and muslims of Bosnia and Kosovo, was not acknowledged by US. Serbian churches and monestaries have been destroyed under NATO,US, UN watch , by muslim Kosovo. The recognition of Kosovo, give legitimacy on the racist attack and discrimination of Christian Serbs. A documentary titled: “Days made of Fear”‘ shows frightening Serbian civilians and religious struggling to survive in Kosovo.

Feb 21, 2008 - 7:16 pm 43. Serbian Truth:

Schwartz hits the nail on the head writing about Serbian mythology, “heroism,” and their history of lying. Leading greater-Serbian ideologue Dobrica Cosic once wrote that lying “saved the Serbs.” Every nation in the Balkans has been victimized to some extent in history, but none has lied to the world about victimization, war crimes, and “heroism,” while simultaneously perpetrating some of the worst crimes ever recorded in human history. Most Serbs will, for example, at any given moment, recite the script of mass-exterminations committed by Croatian ustashe against Serbs in WW2. They will go on and on about inflated numbers that have, incidentally, already been provided on this forum. Every reliable and credible source will tell you that at most, 50,000-100,000 Serbs were slaughtered by the Croatian ustashe. From the US Holocaust Museum, to influential Jewish sources in Zagreb, Croatia. Does that phase the Serbs? Nuh-uh. They keep going and going, lying to the world about an astounding 700,000- 1,000,000 Serbs murdered during WW2. All the while they will attempt to conceal that, just like Scwartz mentioned, Belgrade had its very own NAZI-quisling regime; that it exterminated Jews (more Jews were killed in Serbia than Croatia, by the way), that Serbian royalist-cetniks committed heinous crimes against Croats and Bosnian muslims alike. The Serbs never answered for any of their WW2 crimes, while, quite interestingly, Croatian “guilt” was systematically perpetuated throughout the world during the reign of communist butcher, Josip Broz Tito. All supported and sponspored by Belgrade’s Yugoslav communist regime. When Schwartz writes that the Serbs joined Tito’s partisans at the end of the war, that is absolutely true. His recruits were freshly-shaved Serbian cetniks. They, by the way, committed the brunt of crimes against Croatian ustashe, regular army and civilians that had surrendered to the British in ‘45. More crimes that Serbs took part in and yet never took responsibility for. Remember, the Serbian wars of aggression in the 90s were launched based on the myth of Jasenovac and mythical Serbian “suffering.” The reality is, they dominated Yugoslavia and they wanted to dominate forever. When communism fell, and freedom swept across Eastern Europe, everyone wanted to peacefully go their separate ways. Who prevented all that? You guessed it. THE SERBS. With control of the Yugoslav National Army, they committed wars of aggressions against Slovenia, Croatia and BiH, and made damn sure that everyone’s freedom would be paid for in blood.

Feb 21, 2008 - 7:17 pm 44. indgayelle:

Stephen Schwartz is a Sufi Muslim. Anytime you read anything at all by him, remember that.

Feb 21, 2008 - 7:20 pm 45. Dispassionate Observer:

I get a feeling that there are a lot of Belgrade IPs above me. Glad their internet cafes are all up and running.

Feb 21, 2008 - 7:58 pm 46. dbl action:

This is such pathetic bullshit. Read here for some background and truth: http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/006.shtml

Feb 21, 2008 - 8:07 pm 47. dbl action:

This is such pathetic bullshit. Read here for background and truth:
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/006.shtml

Feb 21, 2008 - 8:10 pm 48. punditius:

The Serbs have shown themselves to be our enemies. We should treat them as such.

Feb 21, 2008 - 8:21 pm 49. Tobias:

Uhh, Annony… Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by Bosnian Serbs in the pay of Belgrade, as most of the world’s schoolchildren know. “Islamic Bosnia” had nothing to do with it. Calling people “idiots” because they happen to know more than you do is neither civilised nor intelligent.

As to the article: it is certainly vitriolic, and rather one-sided on some of the historical detail. On the other hand, at least it explodes some of the myths which, judging by the outraged reactions in the commentaries, are still considered absolute truth by many people. I don’t know why that should be - is it in the nature of humans to become so fond of pieces of “knowledge” they pick up somewhere along the way that the very idea they might be complete rubbish is offensive? Beats me. The notion that Serbs were the only people in the former Yugoslavia who stood up to Hitler, while everyone else supposedly joined him, is a particularly insidious piece of trash - there wasn’t even a single partisan on Serbian soil from late 1941 until the Red Army’s advance into Serbia in 1944. I know the history and politics of the Balkans are complicated, and you don’t have to know any of this stuff - but please don’t pretend you do. Propaganda about something that happened in 1943 can result in innocent people getting killed in 2008, and already resulted in innocent people getting killed in 1991-1995.

Feb 21, 2008 - 8:36 pm 50. Donovan:

Yugoslovia fell apart due to state sponsored terrorism from the US. It is seen as a vital importance to the US’s foreign policy to establish a puppet state and permanent military bases in Southeast Europe. It is also seen as very important to de-stabilize the region by Washington to prevent Russia and Serbia from ever having a strong relationship that can be beneficial to Russia having an influence in the region. And vice versa goes for Russia.

You also have to realize that although there were problems arising in the 80’s over this, they were exacerbated by people in power here, and by in the west. The Balkans are the pawns in the world chess board, they continue to be to this day.

Saying anything anyone here has said about the Bosnian, Serbian, Albanian, Kosovan, Croatian people is unjust and unfair. They are just people. People being used to play a game they don’t want to play. It comes to a point where they realize t his, and they break and lose it, unlike people in the west. Hate then grows. They are trained and taught to hate each other, and it is amazing that today in 2008 most of them honestly do not.

The people are starting to realize this, and they unified in Belgrade today against America, the EU, and the west. It is going to get very, very ugly here - that is a fact. But the west is too blame for it all, and certain people in power in different places here are to blame for it all also - but not the people, and never the people.

Yes serbs killed and murdered people - not any of the serbs i know in belgrade, and I’ve lived here for 3 years. Yes albanians did, kosovans, they all did - but not the ones I know in any of those countries.

Hate and fear is a powerful weapon, and it is not that expensive to create, and we in the west have perfected creating that weapon and deploying it, and it is currently being deployed here.

If we start blaming people impaticular and don’t look at who benefits and why they benefit from people acting a certain way, we will all be doing exactly what world leaders hope we do - take a side, and stand hard by it, and develop our own hate as this man just proved to it.

Feb 21, 2008 - 8:37 pm 51. Kejda Gjermani:

Thank you for speaking such truth to power!!

Feb 21, 2008 - 9:04 pm 52. Peggy:

Schwatrz is at it again. Why does anyone have anything to do with him anymore. He has shown is true colors over and over again.

I have never seen such an artless, ham-handed and bigoted article on Pajamasmedia before. True to over-wrought form, Schwartz sees the world in black and white. Those he loves are always hued in a rosy or golden glow. Those he hates are pure evil.

He has taken an entire group of people here and painted them wholesale in the worst possible colors and he tries to get us to buy into it by playing on our patriotism. Disgusting.

I have had at least one run in with this guy and he is as petulant and childish as anyone I have ever had the displeasure of debating. He even went back to our debate long after I thought it was done and added another post to make it look like he had the last word! If I hadn’t been looking back at the thread to jog my memory about something, I would have never found out.

In his mind, Schwartz is a heroic, and honorable guy, a well respected and knowledgeable expert. The reality couldnt be farther from the truth. What can his opinion on anything really be worth when he proves that he is not capable of even a shred of objectivity or fairness???

Please do not let this man post here anymore.

–Anglican Peggy

Feb 21, 2008 - 9:07 pm 53. s:

Ideologies often put forth great people to prominence, often mask the devils. This author is a devil, he would have been a good officer in hitler’s machine.

What a hate article, this article ripts through current and 600 years, denies the serbs better than anybody ever denied the frozen arctics.

The author fails to mention that serbians are ethnically cleansed from Kosovo - by the brave American Bombs, instigation by dirts like this author and the dirty thugs of Nato - Why ? Well, if these dirts of journalism have a few things to hide… they cover that by relishing the suffering of destruction of old habitats.

Feb 21, 2008 - 9:49 pm 54. Marius Sonnberg:

Let us not forget what the Kosovo Albanians, our “honorable friends”, do while they’re not kissing the US flag: http://tinyurl.com/2t86rj

By the way - I’m sure the rioters in Belgrade just had an old map. I mean, you know, it can happen to anyone: http://tinyurl.com/ywdela

Feb 22, 2008 - 12:35 am 55. mexicanino:

i come from the region so i’m introduced with it’s history. first, they were a satellite nazi country before which, they decieved their neighbours into their kingdom (1918-1941). they ruled with shovinism and arrogance. that’s why you have a nazi slovenia and croatia/bosnia, the people just wanted their own country, they weren’t about politics at all, but individuals took their chances. the same reason why there was a communist yugoslavia, people just wanting to get out of terror.

Feb 22, 2008 - 1:18 am 56. mexicanino:

the yugoslavia was formally a socialistic federal republic. at the end of the 80’s, milosevic tried to turn it into their never forgotten dream of great serbia. they attacked slovenia, croatia and bosnia. montenegro, as well as kosovo, and the
above mentioned countries wouldn’t want to leave if everything was so great and nice. serbian politicians continuosly lie to their people, that’s why you have the burned embassies. they say kosovo is serbia, although they won it by force 40 years after they got independent. nevertheless the serbs make only 5-10% (and decreasing) percent of the kosovo population

Feb 22, 2008 - 1:26 am 57. Michael J. Totten:

Lots of IP Addresses from Belgrade, indeed.

Sorry guys. After the arsonist mob on our embassy yesterday and, especially, due to your chronic outbursts of genocide, “balance” is the last thing you deserve.

Hitler didn’t get equal time in our press, and neither will you.

Feb 22, 2008 - 1:42 am 58. DoktorNo:

This article is one-sided, indeed, but the truth is, that both Serbs and Albanians are chauvinistic people, who cannot merely tolarate each other, and have heavily mitologised viewpoint on their own history. Period.

I am glad, that someone from KFOR had commented here. I wish, that here would be more comments like this.

BTW: Does the “Serb truth” sounds familiar? It is like “tarqiya” and “kitman” in Islam. Russians also have a long tradition for using a lie for political purposes. It does not surprise me, because these two nations had been occpied by Muslim empires for some time, and assimilitated this tactics (partly as defence against Islam).

P.S. I am against Kosovo independence, but on different basis, that “historical right” of Serbs to this land.

Feb 22, 2008 - 2:23 am 59. Marian Kechlibar:

I cannot believe my eyes that the Pajamas Media have really published this torrent of ethnic hatred.

The very fact that this has been written by an American is stunning. This level of ethnic bashing is, in Europe, an exclusive domain of the most fringe groups similar to the American KKK, consumed by hatred to their neighbors. I thought that the Americans have made some progress in combatting destructive nationalism - and now I see an article that basically states that one Euro nation is a bunch of evil subhumans who do not have a culture, but only so-called “culture”, and hate other people because the other people wash themselves. Incredible. Worthy of Der Sturmer. Full of outright lies regarding the second world war history. Quite a lot of Czechoslovak fighters and pilots took the way from occupied Czech lands thru Hungary and Yugoslavia to Britain, and the history of the Balkan war theatre is quite known here in Czechia.

Did the American press publish similar articles about the Iranian people when the jihadi fanatics took the Tehran embassy? Really? Did the American press publish similar articles about the Iraqi people when the lowlife mob hanged the contractors from the Fallujah bridge? Hallo, Michael Totten! You seem to like the Fallujah people quite a lot. How would you react on an article like THAT about them? You know, the creepy Fallujans who know nothing better than kill old ladies and have no culture and do not wash themselves.

I have no illusions about the Balkans. The Serbian fighters have a lot of evil on their hands, but the Balkan wars were far from black-and-white fight of Good and Evil, and cruelty lives in that region in hearts of many men. However, to equate Serbs with Hitler because uncontrollable lowlife mob burned an embassy is, sorry for that word, idiotic. What about the L.A. mob that burnt quite a part of the L.A. during the Watts Riots? I did not notice that Los Angeles was a Hitlerian city.

And as for shelling Dubrovnik - my God - did America never shell a city with civilians inside? Dresden, anyone? Or France? Algeria war, anyone? Or Britain? Hamburg, anyone? War is cruel and cruel people bombard cities. But if they win, well, the history gets polished.

Feb 22, 2008 - 3:46 am 60. RE:

Michael J. Totten

People always deserve a fair hearing, Mr. Totten. I’ll keep your attitude in mind when I happen upon your next article.

There are no halos and angel wings in the Balkans - just a lot of unresolved bitter history that the United States has no business getting involved with, let alone picking sides and establishing Islamic states.

Feb 22, 2008 - 3:50 am 61. Liberté:

This is an amazing article.
Felicitations to the author.
It was about time the world saw what the Serbs are really like.
All the nations in their neighbourhood know this, for the Serbs have tried in the 1990ies to take over their territories, kill their people and create a ”Greater Serbia”.
What the Serbs intended for others, happened to them! They lost Kosovo. Biblical, isn’t it?
That’s what I call justice.
It is reachable, after all.

Feb 22, 2008 - 3:59 am 62. syn:

I think John Bolton has a better accessment of the current situation than the ‘blog press’; sometimes I wonder if this isn’t just another progressive Leftist way of creating a type of Palestinian victimhoodville in Europe and the ‘oppressed’ are Muslim.

Islamic Jihadists have been taking territory and burning churches for some time now; Serbia has the right to exist just as does Israel.

Feb 22, 2008 - 4:11 am 63. Marian Kechlibar:

RE: I definitely agree with you that any engagement in the Balkans is disastrous.

Currently, the Czech policemen try to separate the enraged Serbs and enraged Kosovars at the problematic border crossings. Brave people, and doing ungrateful work. Why ungrateful? Because they will earn hatred of both sides - such are the wages of engagement in the Balkans.

The Balkan peninsula contains a toxic mixture of ethnic and religious hatreds, some of which date back to the times of the Byzantian empire. America has yet tasted first bitter drops of that poison. I am not happy with that; I sincerely wish that the Americans avoided the regional hell entirely. They chose to dive in…

Every single superpower that ever engaged in Balkans got its fingers burnt and made no lasting allies. The Habsburg attempt to extend control over Bosnia resulted in death of the 400-year-old empire in 4 years. Italians lost one war there. The British engagement in the Greek civil war was nasty, costy and no, Greece was not a reliable ally of Britain after, though it was saved from the Reds (partly) by British effort and blood.

Even the warmongering Soviets under Stalin avoided direct confrontation with Tito in the 1950s, because the prize was not simply worth the risk.

For Michael Totten: imagine that the USA took openly one side in the Lebanese civil war of the 80s. Would you consider this a wise political move? In fact, the Lebanese terrorists killed 240 Americans in Beirut in 1983; yet you seem to like the Lebanese better than the Serbs, who, so far, have done smaller damage.

Feb 22, 2008 - 4:43 am 64. Marian Kechlibar:

One correction to my last sentence of the previous post. It should read:

“so far, have done smaller damage to American property and lives.”

I do not want to judge all the damage overall.

Feb 22, 2008 - 5:10 am 65. RE:

Marian Kechlibar

For too many people today, history only consists what transpired over the course of their brief lifetimes.

And even then, their attitudes are based upon what they feel about it - not what they know (which is next to nothing). The schools are not teaching history anymore.

And wisdom? What’s that? John Bolton seems to be the only one left with a bit of it.

There is good reason fear the short term future.

Feb 22, 2008 - 5:33 am 66. Kip Watson:

I knew Pajamas Media was a joke-site of knee-jerk racist, reactionary clap-trap (I get an especial belly laugh from that fatuous ass Rosembaum), but I had previously considered Michael Totten to be a journalist of the highest quality.

This article is typical PJ-hot air — just out for sensationalism, no journalism to be found here. Mr Totten’s endorsement of it has definitely lessened my estimation of him.

Feb 22, 2008 - 5:46 am 67. Kelly Looney:

How unique. A cartoonish description of the conflict with one side presented as utterly evil and the other as completely good.

What a great way to understand the Balkans!

I have been lucky enough to spend time in Serbia as a minor representative of the US, and you will be amazed to hear that the Serbs are…human beings. They are smart and industrious and the vast majority have a positive view of America.

From the front of the US Embassy in Belgrade you can see the shattered ruins of several large buildings destroyed by our bombs less than ten years ago. It’s no surprise that Serbs are not ready to kiss our rings like your angelic Kosavars.

This article reveals you to be of the same ilk as the rabble at the US embassy. Just another hate-monger.

krl

Feb 22, 2008 - 6:12 am 68. Ollie:

Fascinating…

50 years ago Kosovo had less than 10% Albanian Mulsims, now 90%. Most of the Albanian (what is that name, sounds familiar, doesn’t sound like Serbian or Kosovan though) Albanian Muslims were illegal immigrants to Kosovo. What? From where? Albania?

Is that like the Latin American illegal immigrants in Phoenix declaring independence from the US?

Is this a harbinger of what is to happen all over Europe by Muslim non-integrated peoples (in some countries as high as 15-20% now, in some towns/suburbs 90% are Muslim.

Is this a harbinger of what is to come in the US Southwest, where in some locales the illegal and legal Latin American immigrants form over 50% of the population? L.A. proper is an example.

Wow! What a precedent. The West is truly suicidal. We think nothing of it that peoples will become independent in an illegal invasion of our own countries, just because they do not wish to integrate, and we do not try to have them integrate with our countries in the West but accomodate, and accomodate, and accomodate.

Better start considering whether you will become devout Muslim in Europe or devout Catholic in the US Southwest. Make sure to become multicultural and learn to speak Arabic or Spanish exclusively. I hope you like the latest fashion Chadors and TexMex.

For Europeans my suggestion is: Read the Koran and memorize all of it. That is what you will be learning in the schools and re-education camps of the near future. Unless you take option 3 of the Muslims when they ask you - slavery, conversion or death?

Forget everything you know about European culture, religion, law, politics, society, fashion, all of those subjects are regulated by interpretations of the Koran, and nothing else, remember it is God’s word and cannot be amended.

The Koran has no religious freedom, no democratic thinking, no socialist thinking, all is God’s word and must be followed to the letter. Theocracy, that is all that is allowed in the Koran, God says so. Anything else is heretical - not God’s word.

No wonder the Russians and Serbs are angry, Kosovo which once was Slavic is now Albanian Muslim. And we (America - Clinton, and Europe) forced them to become so.

Not to worry, the Muslims will only nicely ask the remaining Slavic Christian minority to go away. Right? Well, they can become slaves, pay the Dhimmi tax, or if they protest be beheaded as it says in the Koran. How nicely Multi-cultural and all that. Once the last minorities leave, vouluntarily of course in hearses or by walking across the border (property belongs only to true Mulsims in a Muslim state -the Koran again), they will be an ethnically diverse Albanian Muslim society ruled by the Koran.

So, which country is next? How about parts of Paris becoming Muslim independent Paris? or Muslim independent Berlin? or Muslim independent London? Surely, I am joking? Right? Oh right, who cares what happens 5 years from now or 10 years, I am secure in my happy socialist, multi-cultural, European country, today. Right?

Things that would never have been considered possible just 30 years ago have changed forever.

Feb 22, 2008 - 6:33 am 69. Ines:

Stephen Schwartz,
Everything what did you write is full of hate against the Serbian people. So many lies on such small space. Why?

Feb 22, 2008 - 6:44 am 70. Jana:

When a country goes to war with every neighbor it has, it becomes clear that there’s something wrong with THEM!
The sooner serbs realize that Kosovo is not theirs and move on with life, the better it’s going to be for them. If they continue with this violence, I personally think Kosovo will be joining the EU a lot earlier then Serbia!

Feb 22, 2008 - 6:47 am 71. Chester White:

Isn’t a US embassy considered our soil? And don’t we have Marines guarding them? And don’t Marines have guns and know how to use them?

If a mob tried to burn the Capitol or the White House, would we not resist?

A few hundred well-placed bullets would have solved this mob action fast.

Feb 22, 2008 - 7:13 am 72. Linda:

Serbians are the perfect example for what propaganda can do to human nature!

“50 years ago Kosovo had less than 10% Albanian Mulsims, now 90%.”

This is the biggest

“Kosovo which once was Slavic is now Albanian Muslim”

Dear Ollie, please read a non-serbian history book that is not full of wishful facts!

1. Kosovar Albanians were always a majority in Kosovo…

2. Kosovans don’t care whether they happen to be born muslim or catholic, their religion is “being albanian”… when it comes to religion serbians are the extremist ones!

3. Kosovo was a part of Illyria called Dardania, and illyrians were the predecessors of albanians (a fact that only serbians deny). serbians came from the Carpat Mountains way later! So Kosovo was indeed occupied by slavs, but was and will never itself be slavic!!!

Feb 22, 2008 - 7:55 am 73. Beng:

RE: Chester White

Well, Kosovo and Metohija is part of Serbia even after the war in 1999. with UN resolution 1244. The problem is that you engaged assault on Serbia without confirmation of UN, basically stole our land and now want us to behave with international laws and justice. Hmmm, double standards bro. If you only recognize brutal force as argument, then please take it to the chin. It’s only a couple of windows and a flag, you stole from us 15% of teritory. If you like to give presents you can give Albanians Montana, Ohio or whatever state of US and it will be just fine with me

Feb 22, 2008 - 8:25 am 74. Beng:

RE: SERBIAN TRUTH

Well, you can spin the facts of WW2 in Balkans, but you cannot deny this facts: Serbia was a enemy of Nazi Germany, Croatia was in alliance with Hitler. In 1941. Nazi massacred Belgrade with bombing, with 5000 civilian casualties, In Zagreb they marched like in parade, with hundreds of thrilled citizens waving with flags and chanting. Royalists-chetniks was an anti-fascist army, they saved 500 US pilots brought down by germans and for that president Truman gave the honor to Draza Mihajlovic, the lider of chetniks. Even Hollywood made a movie during the war, called “Chetniks”, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035729/,

i don’t know any country in the world that made a film during the war about their enemies. For that killing of Croats and Muslims, well Indepedent state of Croatia was a fascist country and Muslims was so called “croatian flowers”, what did chetniks gonna do with enemy in war but to kill them, i mean it was practicaly a civil war. Draza was sold out after the meeting in Jalta, where Stalin, Cherchill and Rousevelt decide to support Tito instead of Draza, basically because they devided Europe into zones and Yugoslavia meant to be a russian zone of influence and Tito was a communist. And for saying about Jews killed in Serbia, well they were killed by germans and because of their “small” number, very quick they practicaly kill everyone. Just for the record German command in Serbia brought a law in 1941. that, for every wounded German they will kill 50 Serbs, and for every dead, 100 Serbs. And they did, on twice occasions, In Kragujevac and Kraljevo, they killed about 5000 people. Well you could present us where Nazi’s killed so many Croatians, Muslims or Albanians. That’s why there wasn’t much of a fighting in Serbia first 2 yaers of WW2. Germans was brutal.

Feb 22, 2008 - 8:53 am 75. dbl action:

For whoever is back here today and wants some rationality, read:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=E17DC7F7-9723-4D24-BDE8-576309200B96

Feb 22, 2008 - 9:38 am 76. Coisty:

Michael Totten:Sorry guys. After the arsonist mob on our embassy yesterday and, especially, due to your chronic outbursts of genocide, “balance” is the last thing you deserve.

Spoken like a pig ignorant Yank. The Trotskyite USA destroys a country that never harmed it and when the put upon country strikes back they are Nazis!!! It’s just like after 9/11: why do they hate us? Gee, do you think it might have something to do with your penchant destroying countries that never even considered harming you?

Four years ago I was pro-American. But one can only ignore American arrogance for so long. Your country is the enemy of the West and the cancer of humanity. Next 9/11 most of the world will be cheering, including the citizens of ‘allied’ (ie. colonised) countries like Britain and Canada. It is not just your arrogant disdain for the sovereignty of other nations; it is your unashamed ignorance of the places you like bombing for sport.

BTW no Belgrade IP here!

Feb 22, 2008 - 9:40 am 77. Coisty:

The American media barely mentioned Kosovo’s ‘independence’ until their embassy was attacked. (Uh…Where’s Ko-sovo dude? I’s can’t find it on ma map, man) Now they are playing the victim. Poor lil ‘Mercains! Scaredy-cat US diplomats are now leaving the country because it’s just too dangerous on the ground. Americans don’t like being on the ground. They prefer fighting when they are thousands of feet in the sky dropping bombs on defenceless civilians. “Yeee-hawwww! Look at ‘em hospitals burn. Don’t mess with the U.S of A.”

Feb 22, 2008 - 9:52 am 78. Jonathan:

Mr Schwartz has been royally debunked:

http://www.limbicnutrition.com/blog/open-serb-hatred-must-be-answered/

For those who need a quick introduction to the facts about Kosovo and the background to this mess, here are two short primers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0_iUYErVv0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMO4rzpbv_4

Feb 22, 2008 - 10:08 am 79. Jack Sarfatti:

Michael Savage who has millions of conservative voter listeners on his Savage Nation talk radio show disagrees with Schwartz’s opinion above. Many more people listen to Savage than they do to Schwartz. That’s a fact. Savage is fighting CAIR in court while Schwartz has left Judaism for Islam. Go figure.

Feb 22, 2008 - 10:20 am 80. Michael J. Totten:

RE: People always deserve a fair hearing, Mr. Totten. I’ll keep your attitude in mind when I happen upon your next article.

I’d give a fair hearing to Serbs who live in Kosovo as a minority. They deserve (and get) a defense from NATO troops on the ground as a threatened minority.

I’d give a fair hearing to Serbs in Belgrade who think they should keep Kosovo.

I’d give a more than fair hearing to Serbs who lost friends and family in the war, no matter who killed them or why.

But I will not give a fair hearing to Serbs who burn down our embassy and who think genocide is the appropriate way to resolve the Albanian question.

Feb 22, 2008 - 10:51 am 81. John:

This article is like the Goebbels of Nazi Germany wrote it. Author is a extremist with a lack of knowledge in history and serious need for pills and psychotherapy.

Feb 22, 2008 - 11:12 am 82. Vladimir Gagic:

Mr. Totten:

You will give Serbia a fair hearing? Thank you. Like all Americans, you are so kind and beneficent. Thank you for bestowing your all-knowing justice upon Serbia. I just don’t know what Serbia would do without American justice and brilliance.

Totten has the typical American god complex and self-congratulatory attitude. The Americans built their empire by butchering American Indians, and now they tell the rest of the world how saintly America is. And I’m sure there are plenty of Muslims in Nangarhar and Haditha don’t mind the US embassy burning.

Feb 22, 2008 - 12:14 pm 83. Annony:

But I will not give a fair hearing to Serbs who burn down our embassy and who think genocide is the appropriate way to resolve the Albanian question.

And what percentage of the Serbian population might that be?

Feb 22, 2008 - 12:21 pm 84. Serbian Truth:

What does Serbian propaganda read and sound like today?

While Serbia was committing aggression (among other things) against its neighbors in the 1990s, it portrayed all of its victims as Nazis and fascists as justification for barbarism and, ironically, crimes not seen in Europe since WWII. It was “ok” to murder Croats and Bosnian muslims in the 90s because, according to (un)official Serbian propaganda, they had a “nazi past” and they were the “descendants of Nazis.” Remember not to lose sight of the fact that Serbs continually conceal their own collaboration and crimes. They also attempt to conceal their century-old agenda and plan for a greater-Serbia.

The Serbs behaved like the Nazis in the 1990s, not their victims! The Serbs occupied 1/3 of Croatia, 70% of Bosnia & Hercegovina. They layed siege to towns and cities, rounded civilians into concentration camps and committed wanton slaughter.

Nowadays, Serbs are manipulating the US “War on Terror” paradigm and are portraying all of their victims and enemies as Al Qaeda supporters and disciples of Bin laden (This time around, Kosovo’s Albanians).

Sadly, many on the US Right are fooled and tricked by this sneaky ploy, and fall into the propaganda-trap the Serbs have set for them.
Many are well aware of this ploy, but choose to ignore it for their own political agendas.

In the past, the Serbs tricked many a Jew by portraying everyone else in the Balkans as Jew-haters, murderers and Nazi-reincarnates. All the while they, I cannot reiterate this enough, conceal(ed) their very own shady history involving Jews and others.

The point is, The Serbs are NOT the only victims in the Balkans. And they haven’t been for decades (the many wars and crimes they committed in the 90s are testament to that!). They are, in fact, the last people in the Balkans that should be playing the “victim” card.

They, of course, are not the only criminals in the Balkans. But not one people continues to perpetuate lies about others in an attempt to systematically fool the world into believing their, more often than not, twisted and sinister version of history.

Kosovo’s independence is in fact Biblical, and a form of cosmic justice. For what they attempted to do in other countries, by demanding autonomy and Serbian states anywhere and everywhere, they denied to Kosovo’s Albanians.

All that remains now is the destruction of the “Republic of Srpska” in Bosnia and Hercegovina, a quasi-state founded on aggression, genocide and mass-murder.

The US needs to destroy the Dayton Agreement, erase “Republic of Srpska,” and grant justice to Serbia’s victims in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Only and when that occurs, will there be a chance for a lasting peace in the Balkans.

Feb 22, 2008 - 12:48 pm 85. Alina:

Written by Ollie>>>”50 years ago Kosovo had less than 10% Albanian Mulsims, now 90%. Most of the Albanian (what is that name, sounds familiar, doesn’t sound like Serbian or Kosovan though) Albanian Muslims were illegal immigrants to Kosovo. What? From where? Albania?”

Do you know why there were less Albanians living in Kosovo at that time, than there are today?

BECAUSE the chauvinistic regime of Serbia forced the Albanians out of their homes. Just like Milosevich did back in ‘98. “The Expulsion of the Albanians: Memorandum 1937″ written by Vaso Cubrilovic,
should tell you something!!

Link (The Expulsion of the Albanians); http://www.aacl.com/expulsion23.html

And last but not least, Kosovar Albanians did NOT immigrate from Albania. That is Serbian Propaganda.
Kosovo has always been populated by Albanians, Serbo slavs came to the region from the east many centuries later, i.e from the Carpat Mountains. And as far as religion goes, the serbs need to take a closer look at themselves in the mirror. They are abusing and misusing God’s name! They are the reasons why Balkans have looked the way it has the past decade.

Isn’t Serbia supposed to be a so called ” democratic state”?! It’s appaling to see that the Serbian Government is doing nothing to protect these embassies! And Russia isn’t making the situation better either.

When is enough enough?!

Feb 22, 2008 - 12:50 pm 86. RFYoung:

The KLA moved in and killed Serbians and claimed false atrocitites until Clinton nad europe could be persuaded to attack a soverign country and partition its six hundred year old borders.

If you think the Muslim Kosovars have any honor, let alone love for you, then I am sorry for your diminisned capacity for reason.

They will just start killing westward to sprreaad Islam and when they get to you, they won’t be kissing your flag.

Feb 22, 2008 - 1:33 pm 87. John:

Beautifully written, I have visited Kosovo several times now and I have to say what I witnessed there was outrageous, all caused by the “heroics” Serbs. Everything that was written here is a fact, very well done for putting this through. I have to point out one thing, a thing that is also very well pointed out in this article, which is the way Serbia has tried and is still trying to label everyone they dislike as “terrorists” even though they have acted worst than terrorists through out their history. We had the “great” Milosevic declaring on TV to murder all Albanians, we have Serb orthodox priests calling for war and standing by their “soldiers” where they went and murdered many innocent people, children, women and old men. Disgusting country, a country that has tried to come out as civilized and prove that is better than everyone, but we have seen their true colours and still can see them.

Feb 22, 2008 - 1:42 pm 88. Elizabeth Bari:

Finally, someone who calls a spade a spade. Read history and see how Serbia has infiltrated other’s borders and grown their own so that they can have control of land and sea. This is the first time I see that someone has held Serbia accountable for their actions. Somehow, everybody has forgotten about the mass genocide perpetrated by the Serbian Government and typically doesn’t have a clue about the politics of the former “so called” Yugoslavia.

Feb 22, 2008 - 2:08 pm 89. Jonathan:

Dear “John”, who thinks this hate screed is “Beautifully Written”, I would like you to tell me where exactly you have been in Kosovo and when. You see, I am wondering how you missed the Serbian enclaves, the places where 1000 year old monasteries were not just burned down, but the the foundation stones ripped out to symbolise total removal. How did you miss the daily attack on Serbs huddled in their NATO guarded enclaves? How did you miss the abductions, the arms deals in the cafes, the trafficked women? So tell us “John”, where exactly were you? You see I think you are lying through your teeth because I have never met anyone who has been to Kosovo who has not returned horrified by the plight of non-Albanian minorities there. Additionally I have never met anyone who has visited Serbia and not had their anti-Serb prejudices blown away by the charm, kindness and beauty of the people. I declare you have never been anywhere near Kosovo or Serbia. I invite you to prove me wrong.

Feb 22, 2008 - 4:13 pm 90. Robert:

Dear Sirs.
Being a half slovenian-half croat living in Slovenia, I, according to your rasistic insult to common sense called article, have all the reasons to hate serbs.
But I don’t.
You see, I was here when things happened. I have bosnian, croat, albanian, serb friends. They are all amazing people.
I see ordinary serbs as warm, welcoming and intelligent bunch of people. Sadly, truth is also that they just don’t have lucky hand when picking their leaders. Only quality their leaders possessed was incredible power to manipulate. But it happened before and elsewhere, too.
Of course, their history has many black spots. But all the balkan nations have them. You see, we are just peons on a chessboard in a game of chess played by big powers. Always played against each other.

Burning your embassy was extremely stupid thing to do. It was done by a handful of idiots with absolutely no right to represent a nation in whole. Ask any ordinary serb about it - they might be even angrier as you are. Because as far as i can remember, they were always pro-western. They turned to russia because there was no one else left for them to turn to.
As for the facts you represented, well, that is beyond any criticism.
You are perfectly entitled to be pro-independence, but don’t disqualify whole nation in attempt to justify your stance.

Feb 22, 2008 - 4:33 pm 91. David W. Lincoln:

How about we try this on for size. Schwartz’s last column here was for the United States to recognize Kosovo. Needless to say, a number of the commentators (of which I was one) did not go along with that.

So, this is simply a temper tantrum just waiting to be unleashed.

Which leaves the effect of seriously downgrading the amout of respect to be accorded the writings (or scribblings) yet to come from Stephen Schwartz.

Feb 22, 2008 - 9:11 pm 92. Artan Boletini:

Yes, Serbs are brave indeed. This is how brave they are:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23300651/

And this is how the Serbian patriots are destroying the Western imperialism one pair of stolen adidas at a time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VWZoKWBYXE

Instead of “Kosovo je Srbije” now it should be “Adidas je Srbije”!!!!!!

Feb 22, 2008 - 9:55 pm 93. Artan Boletini:

Thank you Stephen for finally shedding some light into the thick fog of lies and propaganda with which Serbs have blanketed the western media.

As for the Serbs role in the WWII, here are some hard facts for the pro-Serbs:

During WWII, Serbia was governed by the “Vlada Nacionalnog Spasa” (Government of National Salvation), headed by Milan Nedic. General Nedic was a former CHIEF OF STAFF of the Royal Yugoslav Army. Under his direct command were the Serbian SS Volunteer Corps, the Serbian Gestapo, the Serbian State Guard, and the Department of General Police, Also allied with the Germans were two chetnik groups, the chetniks of Kosta Pecanac and those of Draza Mihailovic. Mihailovic, btw is still wildly popular in Serbia.

Serbian SS Volunteer Corps (Srpski Dobrovoljacki Korpus) - Formed on 15 September 1941, by Dimitrije Ljotic from Chetniks and his Zbor Movement activists. In January 1943, it had five 500 man battalions - four volunteer and one Chetnik Assault battalion, an armored car battalion, cavalry squadron and 6 aircraft - at strength of around 3,000 men. The formation was fully equipped by the Germans who where impressed by its performance.

In 1944, it had five 1200-man regiments with 500-man artillery battalion, under German tactical command but reporting to General Nedic. On 21 June another regiment was formed - 2nd Iron Regiment (2. gvozdeni puk), total strength has risen to around 9,000 men. The strength of the SS Volunteer Corps in August 1944 was 9.886 men, according to Bundesarchiv (RH 19 XI/31)

Serbian Gestapo - On 1 April 1942, the German Gestapo started the formation of ‘1st Belgrade Special Combat detachment’. Members of that unit called themselves ‘Serbian Gestapo’. Recruitment of personnel was carried out by commander Strahinja Janjic and his deputy Svetozar Necak. Recruits were found amongst Gendarmerie, Ljotic men’s and individuals of Nazi believes. Acceptance was done by members of Belgrade Gestapo central, in front of whom candidates would write their autobiography and take an oath. At the end of 1942, the detachment was largest and had 147 men.

The Serbian State Guard (SDS) - Armed formation created on 3 March 1942, as addition to the civil police to keep order and lighten the burden on the German forces. Mostly created by expansion of former Yugoslav Drina and Danube Gendarmes Regiments and police detachments, which were already serving German authorities, with some active officers and NCO’s of former Royal Yugoslav Army. In January 1943, it had a total number of 36,716 men including support services and armed village militia. First commander was Colonel Jovan Trishic replaced by Major General Borivoje Jonic. Recruitment was done by mobilization, also from ranks of chetniks of Kosta Pecanac and later from Chetniks of Draza Mihailovic which by 1944 completely merged into SDS.

SDS also had, amongst other, an intelligence section, and was divided into:

- Municipal State Guard (Police) serving in Belgrade and other major cities of Serbia,

- Rural State Guard (Gendarmerie) which carried out duties across entire territory with exceptions of cities covered by Municipal State Guard, and typically reinforced by some 20 armed village militia.

- Border State Guard which carried out border duties.

On 6 October 1944, 5,000 members of SDS, under Lieutenant-General Stefan Radanovic joined command of Draza Mihailovic as 1st Serbian Assault Corps (Prvi Srpski Udarni Korpus - SUK), later joined by 2nd Assault division and 3rd Frontier Guard Division.

Department of General police - Carried out duties of political police and territorial counter-intelligence service. Form middle of 1941 it was renamed into Department of Special Police. It was mostly engaged in combat against Communist Party of Yugoslavia in which its members showed brutality against arrested communists and later activists People’s Liberation Movement (NOP). Special Police had 30 investigators and 150 agents also under its requests at disposal were further 52 officers and 1550 members of Municipal Guard. Special Police operated its own prison, Glavnyatcha in Belgrade.

Serbian antisemitism

In August 1942, Dr. Harald Turner (the chief of the German civil administration in Serbia) announced that Serbia was the only country in which the ‘Jewish question’ was solved and that Belgrade was the ‘first city of a New Europe to be Judenfrei.’ Turner himself attributed this success to Serbian help.

The fight against the Jewish influence had started six months before the German invasion when the government of Serbia issued legislation restricting Jewish participation in the economy and university enrolment. Fully six months before the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia, Serbia had issued legislation restricting Jewish participation in the economy and university enrolment. One year later on 22 October 1941, the rabidly antisemitic ‘Grand Anti-Masonic Exhibit’ opened in occupied Belgrade, funded by the city of Belgrade. The central theme was an alleged Jewish-Communist-Masonic plot for world domination. Newspapers such as Obnova (Renewal) and Nasa Borba (Our Struggle) praised this exhibit, proclaiming that Jews were the ancient enemies of the Serbian people and that Serbs should not wait for the Germans to begin the extermination of the Jews. A few months later, Serbian authorities issued postage stamps commemorating the opening of this popular exhibit. These stamps, which juxtaposed Jewish and Serbian symbols, portrayed Judaism as the source of world evil and advocated the humiliation and violent subjugation of Jews.

The involvement of the Serbian Orthodox Church as a whole is well documented. The Serbian Orthodox Church openly collaborated with the Nazis, and many priests publicly defended the persecution of the Jews. On 13 August 1941, approximately 500 distinguished Serbs signed ‘An Appeal to the Serbian Nation’, which called for loyalty to the occupying Nazis. The first three signers were bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On 30 January 1942, Metropolitan Josif, the acting head of the Holy Synod of the Serbian Orthodox Church, officially prohibited conversions of Jews to Serbian Orthodoxy, thereby blocking a means of saving Jewish lives. At a public rally, after the government Minister Olcan ‘thanked God that the enormously powerful fist of Germany had not come down upon the head of the Serbian nation’ but instead ‘upon the heads of the Jews in our midst’, the speaker of these words was then blessed by a high-ranking Serbian Orthodox priest.

A most striking example of Serbian antisemitism combined with historical revisionism is the case of Bishop Nikolaj Velimirovic, revered as one of the most influential church leaders and ideologists after Saint Sava, founder of the Serbian Orthodox Church. To Serbs, Bishop Velimirovic was a martyr who survived torture in the Dachau concentration camp. In truth he was brought to Dachau (as were other prominent European clergy), because the Nazis believed he could be useful for propaganda. There he spent approximately two months as an ‘Ehrenhaftling’ (honour prisoner) in a special section, dining on the same food as the German officers, living in private quarters, and making excursions into town under German escort.

Feb 22, 2008 - 10:13 pm 94. vlado:

i cannot believe what you wrote here. i am Serb,and i can tell you,we were with you in both world wars. Chetnicks
saved lives of 500 American airmen in ww2,and you say Serbs are Nazis?
man, you are uneducated. Probably Albanians paid you well,you forgot that Albanians were fascists?
and srebrenica wouldn’t have happened if Bosnian Muslims hadn’t destroyed Kravica village and villagers, so it was retaliation.

Feb 23, 2008 - 1:40 am 95. John Dunshee:

This is the Balkans. These conflicts did not start in 1999, or 1941, or 1389. They have been going on since time immemorial. I think the best solution what the one put forth by Col. David Hackworth. Build a wall around the place and toss in all the armaments they want. After a year put up a ladder and look to see if they are still fighting. If so, take the ladder down and check back in another year. Continue until they quit fighting.

The left likes to point out that there is no military solution in Iraq. There has to be a political one.

It is the same in the Balkans. As long as the people, not limited to Serbians, are willing to kill their neighbors and burn their houses over some dispute whose origins are lost in the past, there will be no solutions.

So let them fight until they’re either too tired, or dead.

Feb 23, 2008 - 3:49 am 96. Richard Taylor:

I have read this article and now that I have stopped laughing, I can now respond. Let me start by saying that I have been in Kosovo for 5 years now and am an American citizen. Mr. Schwartz spent 18 months in the Balkans and knows nothing of the region or culture in the current aspect. He says several times of how the Albanians are such peace loving people and how much they love Americans, that is the biggest farce I have ever read. The Albanians are uneducated, minipulating theives and would sell their own mother for a euro. They destroy their own communities by polluting the rivers and streams and dumping their trash anywhere they wish. You can travel miles along streams and not go more then 1 foot without finding trash or plastic bottles converging in piles along the rocks and creek beds. They burn plastics and tires as though it was wood and pollute the air so devistatingly bad, that there is a constant haze floating around the country almost year round. As far as loving Americans, they love our money and nothing else. I have been overcharged for everything I have purchased in the past five years. They will give Russian and Serbian citizens a much lower price on an item because they feel they are not “rich” like Americans and I have proven this theory numerous times throughout every shopping market in Kosovo.They speak so much of how they love Americans to your face, but as soon as you walk away, they spit on the ground as to get the nice things they just said out of their mouths. As far as Muslim, that is the biggest joke. The Albanians are as much muslim as I am. No one ever attends mosque or prays and when the hoja cries out from the mosque tower, they turn their radios up as to drown out the sound. They only claim to be muslim as one more way to manipulate western countries into feeling sorry for them. Ask any of them of the March 2004 atrocities as where several hundred Serbian churches and homes were burnt to the ground by Albanians and none seem to remember that occurence, but ask about 98-99 and they can tell you of all the horrible things the Serbian army did to “their” people. The Albanians will and have lied about anything as to make them look like poor little helpless people, but don’t be fooled, the UCK, hailed in Kosovo as the Albanian freedom fighters, killed more Albanian people then the actual Serbian army did. Anyone the UCK thought to be collaberators or friends of Serbia or even just people they didn’t like, where killed and buried in shallow graves to say that the Serbians did this. Fatmir Ahmeti, an ex-UCK member has written a book about the UCK murders, but for some crazy reason, noone wishes to publish it with all of the western world backing the so called poor Albanians. One Albanian man even told to me, ” I have six sons and my Serbian neighbor has two, I will gladly sacrifice two of my sons to kill his just so they do not breed more Serbs. That is how you win a war, you out populate the enemy and take over.” That is the peaceful mentality of the Albanians in Kosovo. So Mr. Schwartz, spend more time actually on the ground doing more research, then just travelling around for a year and half and feel you know all of the story. Maybe in my next response I will talk about the drug problem and human trafficking that is going on in Kosovo. If you feel that in just 5 years of records that, 1,500 kilos of heroine, 11,000 kilos of cocaine and 15,000 kilos of Marijuana is a petty amount, then I say to you, denial is not only a river in egypt.

Feb 23, 2008 - 4:40 am 97. Jonathan:

“It is easy to see the faults of others, but difficult to see one’s own faults. One shows the faults of others like chaff winnowed in the wind, but one conceals one’s own fau;ts as a cunning gambler conceals his dice” - Buddha, Dhammapada, verse 252.

I see that Mr Schwartz’s article is acting as a poultice and drawing out the emboldened Serb-hating loons that usually only live in the deeper depths of Usenet, Neo-nazi forums and other domains of the hateful and insane.

One such creature who has revealed himself is one Artan Boletini, an Albanian commentator. I would like to take a few minutes to help Mr Boletini at least re-orientate himself back in the direction of honesty, fairness and reason even if his handicap means that he will never limp the whole way there.

Now Artan, you are falling vicrtim to the same fallacy that all the others on this page who denounce “Serbs” for the action of a tiny unrepresentative minority, except you have taken it one step further, you are now denouncing all Serbs for the actions of tiny unrepresentative minority 60 years ago! I have seen esteemed and widely respected journalists like Michael Trotten fall into the trap on this topic, so you are at least in good company.

If we pay minute attention to the record of any peoples, we will reveal shameful episodes and the ranting of madman, bigots, xenophobes, racists and extremists. You are dredging history and presenting distorted half truths in an attempt to slander the people of Serbia, exactly as Mr Schwartz has tried and failed to do here.

Now I could simply fall victim to the Tu Quoque fallacy myself and say “So what if there was a single Serbian collaborationist organisation. Every single country occupied country has collaborators and quislings.” I could go on to talk about the Albanian Skenderbey SS Division or the Bosnian 13th Waffen Hanjar (or Handschar) SS Division. I could point out that Serbia never has anything like an SS division, at worst they had an Anti-Partisan unit - Serbian Volunteer Corps - which was NOT an SS division at all. It was not even part of the German army, it was unit of the short lived Serbian collaborationist government. Its very existence is a testament to the fierceness of the Partisans and German desperation at their inability to suppress the Partisans.

The ONLY SS volunteer corps in the Balkans were Bosnian, Albanian, Croatian, Hungarian, Romanian and Bulgarian. The Serbs were the only people NOT to capitulate to the Nazis and volunteer to fight in the German Army itself.

You go on to mention the so called “Serbian Gestapo”. This is another attept to imply that the Serbs were raving nazi’s with their own mini version of the nazi apparatus. The truth - and you Serb haters shudder every time it is mentioned - is much more prosaic.

It is truth that members of the German Gestapo turned up in Belgrade in 1942 to set up a Serbian Gestapo. They failed miserably. The unit - formed by common criminals - was inaugurated on 1st April 1942 (April’s Fools day) and called the 1st Belgrade Special Combat detachment. It was disbanded within a year by the Germans. They were a joke compared to the Hrvatski (Croatian) Gestapo formed from True Believers in December 1942. Now those guys were pros, they helped round up hundreds of thousands of Jews and Serbs for the death caps at Jasenovac and elsewhere. Even the Kosovo Albanian Gendarmerie unit formed in 1941 by the Gestapo were more effective at catching and killing Serbs, Jews and Roma.

You see when we look at how people in the nazi occupied territories behaved, we ALWAYS find traitors and collaborators. But in the case of the Serbs we find LESS COLLABORATION and MORE RESISTANCE than everyone else in the Balkans.

You then go on to plagiarise Philip J. Cohen’s article “Holocaust History Misappropriated” from the November 1992 edition of Midsteam magazine. Your plagiarism repeats Cohen’s slanders, which, like so much anti-Serbian propaganda, relies of highlighting Serbian wrongs completely out of context and without any comparisons. One cannot assess Serbian anti-Semitism without considering and comparing it to the rampant anti-Semitism throughout Europe at the time Cohen, Schwartz and you all use the same propaganda trick: List Serbian wrongs, out of context and without comparisons. It is one of the and without comparisons. It is one of the oldest tricks in the fat and very old book of slander tricks. It is the crude club of Propagandist weaponry and Serbs know it well. This is a classic example of “Framing”, where this time the frame is only around Serbian malfeasance to the exclusion of all others.

Since you are Albanian, and concerned with Anti-Semitism, Kosovo and history - you may want to pay more attention to the wrongdoing your own people instead of pointing fingers at Serbs: http://www.islam-watch.org/Serbianna/Albanian_role_holocaust.htm

Mr Schwartz and Mr Boletini have between then used either deliberately deployed or through stupidity and ignorance, simply fallen victim to so many propaganda and coercive persuasion techniques that their words here might for the perfect example text for an undergraduate course on Critical Thinking. In their few works have detected everything from Suppressing Evidence (Framing), Observational Selection, Reversal Of Reality, Unsupported Claims, Inverted The Glittering Generality, Exaggeration, Slander, Non Sequiturs, Guilt Induction, Appeal to Emotion, Ad Hominem (Personal Attacks), Name Calling, Labelling, Claim That There Is A Panmalefic (Serbs are the Panmalefic)…..I really could go on.

You two a are a brace hypocrites, accusing the Serbs of being hateful and ignoble whilst lying, exaggerating and distorting in a desperate effort to support your bigotry.

Thankfully after nearly 20 years of relentless anti-Serb propaganda and slander, the truth is emerging. Maybe it is the increasing numbers of visitors to Serbia, maybe it is the power of the internet, maybe the Iraq was has made people question received wisdom and reject the media’s Manichean anti-Serb narrative. But I can assure you of one thing Mr Boletini and Mr Schwartz: There are plenty more where I came from. The ranks of Pro-Serbian westerners like me swelling fast. It is going to get harder, and eventually impossible for people like you to write filth like Mr Schwartz’s article without being righted and outed as bigots by us.

Your time is over Serb-haters, the truth is coming out, and it is against you.

Feb 23, 2008 - 5:06 am 98. John:

I have to laugh at some of these comments, as much as they say this article is based and fail to witness the facts. They do the same by being biased towards the serbs, and calling Albanians names. Very rich, I find it hard to believe that most of you posting comments are really “Americans”, try so hard, but the world knows. My God, serbs can’t you see the world doesn’t like you. You are bunch of murders, no good for nothing.

Feb 23, 2008 - 7:41 am 99. Zbyszek:

I appeal to everybody who support Serbia to sign both petitions shown below

http://www.obronserbie.lpr.pl/?i=3200

To see a “tolerance” of Kosovar Albanians just watch this video. It show destruction of church of Santa Andrew Apostle in 2004 under watchful eyes of NATO

http://www.media.srbija.sr.gov.yu/medsrp/filmovi/podujevo180304_lan.ram

Feb 23, 2008 - 8:37 am 100. Herr Morgenholz:

Mr. Totten:

This particular IP address is from Ohio, and from a native born American of German descent. You are wrong.

I don’t condone torching embassies, but I sure as hell understand it. The ethnic cleansing in Kosovo is Albanian on Serb and has been from the beginning. We bombed for two reasons: to distract from Billy-Jeff’s wandering trouser snake problems and to stick it to a down-trodden Russia. Serbian military action within their own country, which is what Kosovo is, was to defend the Serbs being slaughtered by the muslims. Since then, churches and monasteries have been burnt to the ground by the Wahabist and heroin funded KLA, and most of the Serbs have fled, refugees within their own land.

America may have recognized Kosovo, but you can bet your ass that most Americans won’t. Why the stripey-pants set believe that our national interest is served by an islamist narco-state in Europe is beyond me.

Feb 23, 2008 - 9:21 am 101. Smith:

John :

… but the world knows. My God, serbs can’t you see the world doesn’t like you. You are bunch of murders, no good for nothing.

WOW, RACISM, finally…

freedomhouse report

Feb 23, 2008 - 10:34 am 102. Jonathan:

John you say of the Serbs that “world doesn’t like [them]. [They] are bunch of murders, no good for nothing.”

It is true that the Serbs are suffering from the consequences of relentelss anti-Serb propganda.

Most people in their ignorance believe that the Serbs are the bad guys. The need need needs bad guys you see, our culture reqires simple goodies and baddies and the Serbs are just that: The nominated baddies.

Claim is not reality and even a cursory understanding of history, both recent and ancient, will instantly lead to a increased sympathy for these bullied and long oppressed Europeans.

Exposure to Serbs and Serbia tends to destroy the prejudices of 20 years in a single weekend. They are lovely people. They hve been grossly mistreated by the West and they are rightly furious at the way in which they have been treated.

A read of this page will show you the how openly people profess Serb hatred with impunity.

Thew wiser, cooler heeds, those with a modicum of education and critical thinking are able to see the niances and complixities of the situation. They know that there is ALWAYS another side to the story.

The US rushed in to Iraq to find WMDs and found nothing. They rushed into Kosovo after the bombing to find massacres, and found virtaully nothing. In both cases they were dead wrong and in neither case have they admitted their wrongdoings.

The Serbs are waiting patiently for justice. For niow it lookms like the bully boy US and EU will succeed in getting theirt little narco- client state its independence in full violation of international law and the conventions of Sovreign Equality and Inviolable Borders. They can still, forthe time being, trade on the widespread Serbophobia and bigotry cultured by the last 15 years of bogey man making.

Russia and China are not adversaries to be mocked, neither are the Serbs. Justice will be done, perhaps when a Russian aircraft carrier provides air support to a secessionist Texas joining Mexico, or an Independent Basque region, or the Islamic Republic of North Yorkshire. How will you feel when La Raza dance in the streets of Mexico celebrating the re-conquest of the Southern United States. You think it cannot happen? Kosovo was Serbia for 1000 years….

Feb 23, 2008 - 1:27 pm 103. jimbob:

This article is fiction. The ‘60,000 women raped’ is pure fiction, and the rest does not ‘jive’ with the pre-1990 historical texts and articles I’ve read.

I’ve read about Mihailovic and the Chetniks in Time magazine, from the early 1940s, and it does not agree with Shwartz’s revisionist history.

Feb 23, 2008 - 5:18 pm 104. Morton Doodslag:

Whatever the bizarre and syncretistic Sulieman Schwartz, former Jew, former radical communist, current Islamic obscurantist has to say on the matter, the fact remains that Muslims, because of their Muslimness, have stolen another piece of land from so called “infidels” in their ongoing Jihad.

This is what Muslims do everywhere. Anyone else doing this would be accused of being a modern day colonist stealing looting and raping their way to power and land grabs — but the Muslims are doing this in the Philippines, in Indian Kashmir, in Chechnya, in Lebanon, in Israel, in Sudan and Ethiopia, in Kenya, basically anywhere and everywhere they raise the hideous flag of Islam.

Today, with the connivance of the U.S. both Democratic and Republican leadership, under the auspices of NATO and the EU, the Muslims have stolen another piece of land for Dar ul Islam.

It is a high crime — an atrocity — and the Serbs, after centuries of victimhood, are fully within their rights to fight, brutally if necessary, to repel this Jihad. Kosovo is part of the internationally recognized borders of a non-Muslim state known as “Serbia”. Just because Muslims have been successful in making life so difficult and dangerous for non-Muslims that they have been forced to flee does not and should never mean that the Muslims are then be rewarded.

But that is what has been done today in recognizing the freshly minted Islamic Nation of Kosovo. Most Western observers would be amazed to learn that this is simply another manifestation of Islam’s ongoing murderous campaign to rule the world — many would consider this preposterous.

But what will the answer be when Muslims, in a manner exactly similar to the genocidal way they’ve conducted themselves in Kosovo, demand and establish new Muslim nations in Lebanon, Philippines, Thailand, Chechnya, Paris, London, and Berlin? What will the answer then be from the insane and bankrupt Westerners who’ve allowed their minds and the interest of their nations to be so thoroughly corrupted by Arab and Saudi billions?

The world will rue the day we didn’t stop the Muslims dead in their tracks in the Balkans. This is only part of the long prologue of the ongoing Jihad to rule the world, one region, one neighborhood at a time. It is all Jihad.

Feb 23, 2008 - 5:46 pm 105. bushbanger:

“Schwartz was born in Columbus, Ohio. His father, Horace, was Jewish and his mother Protestant, but the family was not religious.[citation needed] Instead his mother was a member of the Communist Party, and his father he described as a “fellow traveler”. Schwartz was thus initially a Communist and supporter of the Soviet Union; later he would call himself a “red diaper baby”.”

Let’s call you Mr. Ex. With the past like the above you must have a few psychological issues. Is it psyche or maybe it is a monetary issue? Pay me and I will spin shi* kind of approach Mr. ex-supporter of the Soviet Union.

Feb 24, 2008 - 2:39 am 106. Mark:

Man, I think you need your (Schwartz)head examined. You have some serious issues. Your hate (yes, I use a strong word like that) for the Serbian people IS SCARY!! Also, you’ve speculated most of your report without any credible sources. Especially, you part refereeing to:

“Serbs told the world for two centuries that they had defended the freedom of Europe against the Ottomans, when in reality they sold out to the Ottomans for the privilege of collecting taxes (the much-criticized Islamic cizye) from Christians under Islamic rule, and turned against the Ottomans only when Turkish power diminished and the Serbs feared the loss their status as tax farmers.”

What a crock! For staters, it wasn’t 2 centuries it was 5 and they never stoped fighting them. Christians converted yes, but that included Catholics and Christian Orthodox so they could live as first class citizens compared to non-converters who subdued to living in the villages, who weren’t aloud to be educated and paid heavy taxes to the Sherriff’s of the region - you know, a feudal system?? Of these conversions the Albanians were the heaviest. Tell me then, why do Serbs Christians still exist while the Christian Albanians are few and far between?? You’re not smart at all MATE?!!

You talk fascism; you obviously have a deep hatred for Slavs in genral through your writing! You are both one disgusting and despicable individual! This may come back to haunt you one day!

Feb 24, 2008 - 4:47 am 107. W. Carroll:

Seems like that Serbian bully in the first grade made a lasting impression on you there Marky. Whatever your little biggotry issues are please keep them to yourself. We do not need your silly little impressions of history. Try writing about something else ok? Serbia is NOT your subject.

Feb 24, 2008 - 10:28 am 108. Mark:

“We do not need your silly little impressions of history. Try writing about something else ok? Serbia is NOT