Hillary: Should She Stay or Should She Go?
Hillary Clinton cancelled her media appearances Wednesday morning to huddle and determine her next step, after her "more electable than Obama" argument took a big hit in NC and Indiana. The beginning of the end?
The optimism exhibited the last few days by the Clinton campaign that they were finally making progress in convincing Democrats that she would be the better candidate to face John McCain in the fall came a cropper in Indiana. It vanished in the middle of the night when a comfortable lead disappeared amidst hints of ballot shenanigans in one of the most crooked cities in the United States: Gary, Indiana.
Chicago has nothing on its close neighbor Gary when it comes to playing fast and loose with the electoral process. In 1967, the white city machine was in a panic because African American candidate Richard Hatcher appeared headed for victory. Like any crooked machine, they resorted to the time tested methods of vote fraud, ballot box stuffing, purging voter lists, and ghost voter registrants. Hatcher called in the Feds and the courts and got the process cleansed just in time for him to sweep to victory.
In the end, it really didn’t matter if Gary tried to rig the vote for Obama. By not winning comfortably in a state she was expected to do very well, Hillary Clinton’s campaign suffered the ultimate defeat: she failed to meet expectations.
Because of this, Drudge is reporting tonight at midnight central time that “Hillary plans to huddle with undecided super delegates tomorrow; gauging if she can go on.” This could be gamesmanship on Clinton’s part, meeting with the supers in order to take some of the pressure off of her to quit. More likely, it is a genuine attempt to assess what her chances are at this point in the campaign. The answer might determine whether she will go before the Rules Committee at the end of the month and make her pitch to seat Florida and Michigan’s orphan delegates. Or, whether she will fold her tent and either quit or suspend her campaign.
The basic problem for Clinton is that her argument to the Superdelegates -that she is more electable than Obama- took a huge hit in North Carolina and Indiana. Obama’s victory in the Tar Heel state was almost as complete as any victory he has had in his previous primary wins. Obama won weekly churchgoers, college graduates, non-college graduates, first time voters, every income group from those making less than $15,000 a year to those making more than $200,000 a year, and every age group except those over 60. He was seen as more trustworthy than Clinton, more likely to win in November, and much more likely to bring “change.”
There were, however, some troubling indications for Obama even in his blowout North Carolina win that may spell trouble for his campaign both in the immediate future and down the road if, as expected, he becomes the Democratic nominee for president.
First and foremost is the Reverend Wright issue. Forty-seven percent of voters in North Carolina and 46% in Indiana thought the Wright matter was “important.” In Indiana, Clinton got 72% of those voters and 60% in North Carolina.
Will half the voters still consider Reverend Wright an issue for the general election? Much depends on how -or if – Republicans exploit the matter by keeping Wright’s name before the public, reminding voters of whose pastor he is. Then again, John McCain tiptoed around the Wright controversy last week, seeing it as racial dynamite. If Republican independent groups -the so-called 527 organizations- make Wright an issue will McCain denounce the effort? I can’t imagine McCain eschewing an advantage like that but his pledge to run a “clean” campaign may tie his hands if Obama and the press cry “foul.”
Another problem for Obama was his failure to win a majority of Catholic voters, even in North Carolina where Catholics made up less than 10% of the electorate. There he edged Clinton 49%-48% as opposed to losing by 20 points among Catholics to Hillary in Indiana, where Catholics made up a fifth of total voters. States where the Catholic vote is vital like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Minnesota would be a problem for him in November unless he can get more than 35%-40% of that vote.
And his continuing problem with attracting white voters -especially men- is one of the only issues that is keeping Hillary Clinton’s candidacy alive. As long as Clinton can show her strength with a core Democratic constituency like white, working class males, Obama must contend with her campaign.
But overall, it was a good night for the Illinois senator. He dashed Hillary Clinton’s hope for any semblance of a moral victory in North Carolina by beating her soundly. And he won enough delegates that he is now less than 250 away from the magic number of 2025 (half the delegates to the convention minus Florida and Michigan). The fate of those two states may not matter once Obama goes over the top for the simple reason that he will probably have most of the party elites behind him at that point, trying to push Clinton out of the race. There is a huge incentive for the party to come together before the convention, and party leaders -not to mention Obama supporters- will demand he be anointed the standard bearer.
In Indiana Clinton, like Obama, also ran the board among core Democratic groups. She showed her usual strength with women, whites, union members, Catholics, and seniors. She also significantly outpolled Obama with those voters who thought the economy was the number one issue.
But Clinton’s major problem showed in Pennsylvania and especially in Indiana; she is being outspent by Obama everywhere. Turnout in rural areas was not quite what the Clinton camp was banking on while Obama’s voters showed up in record numbers. It could be that her campaign is now suffering a bottleneck in funds which is beginning to tell at the ballot box. And with hope for victory becoming ever fainter, there is a good chance that her ability to raise money in the amounts that would enable her to compete effectively with Obama may be at an end.
She can’t keep being outspent 3 or 4 to 1 in every state and get the blow out victories she absolutely needs to close the delegate gap with Obama. Instead, that gap widened last night to where it is now, almost 150 delegates and climbing, thanks to Obama’s continued success in wooing Superdelegates.
Is this the end of the line for Hillary Clinton? The consensus among the talking heads on cable appears to be coalescing around the idea that she should wind her campaign down and get out of Obama’s way. No doubt it will be an extremely difficult and emotional decision. She has fought as hard as any candidate I have ever seen for the nomination. But the votes aren’t there, the money’s not available, and time has run out.
Rick Moran is PJM Chicago editor; his own blog is Right Wing Nut House.
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1. Ed Wallis:She has every “reason” to take this to the convention. I do not see sufficiently compelling points as to why it would be in her interest to “stop” now.
May 7, 2008 - 2:40 am 2. Bilbo Baggins:I am not a fortune-teller, like the majority of “political analysts”, but a distant observer of this dramatic comedy that is playing before the eyes of the World. It reminds me the famous scene from Homer’s Iliad (Book 22): Achilles pursues Hector, but cannot run him down. Finally Achilles kills Hector, but thereafter Achilles was killed by Paris. So it is indifferent if Hillary or Obama dies now or later: they will both die (politically, naturally). But, as Hector says before his last fight: “Alas! the gods have lured me on to my destruction. … death is now indeed exceedingly near at hand and there is no way out of it … My doom has come upon me; let me not then die ingloriously and without a struggle, but let me first do some great thing that shall be told among men hereafter”. In this way I image Hillary. She is a true Warrior who doesn’t leave the battlefield without spreading death and terror amongst the enemies. These enemies, as it is easily to guess, are her ex-fellows Democrats that have elected Achilles-Obamus to their misfortune that waits them in the terrible form of the Gorgon Medusa.
May 7, 2008 - 3:23 am 3. Michelle Malkin » Game over for Hillary:[...] Rick Moran Belmont Club Posted in: Hillary Clinton Send to a Friend Printer Friendly comments (12) trackbacks (2) [...]
May 7, 2008 - 4:00 am 4. Is It All Over for Hillary? : Stop The ACLU:[...] Michelle Malkin says its game over, and Rick Moran is on the same sheet of music. [...]
May 7, 2008 - 4:28 am 5. Webloggin - Blog Archive » No Rocky Analogy for Indiana Squeaker, Clock Just About Down to Zero for Hillary Clinton:[...] also: Michelle Malkin, Hot Air, Rick Moran Share This Article With Others: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can [...]
May 7, 2008 - 4:56 am 6. deek:“The basic problem for Clinton is that her argument to the Superdelegates -that she is more electable than Obama- took a huge hit in North Carolina and Indiana.”
I don’t get that. Obama just had a good showing in his own parties primary. It doesn’t indicate electability in the general.
May 7, 2008 - 5:23 am 7. Gandalf:Dear Bilbo, in your comment you forget a very important detail: while “one in full flight, the other one pursuing him” (Hom. Il. XXII, 157), “all the gods looked on” (167). Who are these “gods” (in political sense)? If Achilles is Obamus and Hector is Hillary, the gods are Republicans and their Commander-in-Chief Zeus is John McCain.
May 7, 2008 - 5:32 am 8. Never Yet Melted » MSM Left Wants Hillary Out:[...] Rick Moran identifies the key factor behind Obama’s advantage: [...]
May 7, 2008 - 5:32 am 9. Daily Blogger - Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 | Jack’s Newswatch:[...] Pajamas Media (Rick Moran) | Hillary: Should She Stay or Should She Go? [...]
May 7, 2008 - 6:22 am 10. Adele:Ok.. Let me try to understand…African Americans vote 10 to 1 for Obama and they are not racists. White voters go for Hillary 60/40 and they are racists? This is ridiculous.
May 7, 2008 - 6:44 am 11. Pug:Adele, the black folks are voting for one of their own, just as whites have always done and still do. They have been the most loyal constituency in the Democratic Party for decades, followed closely by women, and this is finally their chance. Of course they are trying to grab it with both hands.
The main difference with black voters is that they have voted for white candidates for a long time. Every previous presidential election in the country’s history had only two white men running. The white folks haven’t gotten comfortable with voting for a black candidate and a significant number of them may not get there.
May 7, 2008 - 7:00 am 12. The Wizard:Hillary has no money, no grass roots support and she has lost. Why continue down a path that will only lead to more dissention within the party and denigrate whatever political standings the Clinton’s have achieved? This campaign has demonstrated that Hillary is disingenuous, hubris, unethical and a-moral. Enough, already. It is over.
May 7, 2008 - 7:05 am 13. Robin Goodfellow:Pug,
May 7, 2008 - 7:15 am 14. Buford Gooch:Blacks are then racists to the extreme.
The truth that dare not speak its name is that Obama is having trouble getting the White vote in his own party. Hillary may well be more electable in the general, but it is way beyond politically incorrect to state the real reason.
May 7, 2008 - 7:20 am 15. Pundit Review » Blog Archive » Around the web, a tour of my RSS feeds:[...] Why Hillary stays in the race. Why she won’t.. [...]
May 7, 2008 - 7:33 am 16. AJ:Gary should not even count. Yes, Rick, it is more crooked than any city in America. Hillary won Indiana rather easily, as Obama, as usual, won his normal areas: black, hippie, far left, wealthy, college towns. He is 100% unelectable. As a conservative, I hope he gets the nod as McCain will wipe the floor with him. Hillary continues to win the states that matter. If she wins, Florida, Ohio, et al are in play for the Dems in Nov. If BHO wins, he can’t win more than 10-12 states: CA, OR, WA, DC, MD, VT, et al. The Dems, as usual, will lose a golden opportunity by choosing the polarizing, unqualified candidate.
Hillary won upwards of 70% of the votes in about 75 of Indiana’s 92 counties.
May 7, 2008 - 7:40 am 17. Jules Crittenden » Not Dead Yet:[...] Rick Moran at Pajamas looks at some other aspects of the vote last night and what they might say about November. He doesn’t like Hillary’s chances of staying alive, though, notes her reported plans to huddle with superdelegates and sees writing on the wall. I see more eye gouging. [...]
May 7, 2008 - 8:02 am 18. Right Wing Nut House » HILLARY: SHOULD SHE STAY OR SHOULD SHE GO?:[...] Here’s a sample: The optimism exhibited the last few days by the Clinton campaign that they were finally making progress in convincing Democrats that she would be the better candidate to face John McCain in the fall came a cropper in Indiana. It vanished in the middle of the night when a comfortable lead disappeared amidst hints of ballot shenanigans in one of the most crooked cities in the United States: Gary, Indiana. [...]
May 7, 2008 - 8:08 am 19. Anonymous:“The basic problem for Clinton is that her argument to the Superdelegates -that she is more electable than Obama- took a huge hit in North Carolina and Indiana.”
Look how close Hillary got without the money that Obama has nor the media prostrating before her the way they do for Obama.
May 7, 2008 - 8:27 am 20. Olivia:Another reason Hillary should go on that the author doesn’t mention is the whole issue of Florida and Michigan. It’s odd that Democrats have sat on their hands on this issue for so long. How can you discount major swing state Florida? Spells trouble. And Obama went into North Carolina with a guaranteed 28% of the vote (black voters 9-1). I didn’t care for Hillary to begin with, but Anonymous is right. She’s not doing so bad without the biased media and starry-eyed NIKES (No Income Kids with Education). I still want an upset. I don’t want Obama to even have a chance to be President. The thought alone freaks me out.
May 7, 2008 - 8:55 am 21. Justin:Let us also remember that she got the results that she did while being drastically out spent and also while having the all of the media squarely in Obama’s corner.
Seriously though, Obama may be a gift from God. He reminds us that despite the screw ups of George W there is a reason to vote Republican.
May 7, 2008 - 9:12 am 22. Rachel:If the tables were turned, and they were begging Senator O to drop, people will be calling the “r” word left and right.
“How dare you try to put a brother down”
And I say this as a black liberal female. I think both Dem candidates bite and the DNC gave up a near-guaranteed victory by casting Mark Warner away.
May 7, 2008 - 9:19 am 23. John Samford:“The white folks haven’t gotten comfortable with voting for a black candidate and a significant number of them may not get there.”
BS. It looks like the far left is getting ready to trot out their next ‘big lie’. ‘No WMD’, ‘Bush’s war’, ‘Global Warming’ are about played out. The problem with politics by lies is that lies have short shelf lives and they have to be replaced fast enough to keep the suckers (voters) from seeing that they are lies.
May 7, 2008 - 9:32 am 24. Letalis Maximus, Esq.:Ohhhh…BAMA will lose not because he is 50% black but because he is 100% Socialist.
If Colin, Rice or Steele was running (J.C. also) as the Republican candidate, they would slaughter Ohhhhh……BAMA also. It’s NOT the color, fool, it’s the politics.
As a coup de` gras, No candidate in Billeries position has EVER dropped out. Especially given the fact that Billery will win a brokered convention. Ohhhh…BAMA lacks the political skills to win a brokered convention, while Billery has Soros.
Neither candidate has much chance of winning the GE. Not because one is half black, the other half female, but because both are all Socialist.
Socialism had a brief moment in America Political history but that was 70+years ago and it’;s finished. Over. Done. Kaput.
America is the land of opportunity, Socialism is the death of opportunity.
Why should she get out now that she and Bill have their eyes firmly on 2012? In my view, she will stay in as long as she can in order to do as much damage to Obama as possible, thereby ensuring a McCain presidency. She will only drop out if she and Bill conclude that the Dem base is about to figure that out and might hold what she and Bill did for Obama against her in 2012.
See, Kennedy, Edward J., career of. She won’t make the same mistake he did against Carter in 1980 because the Dem base never really forgave him for costing (in their view) Carter the election to Reagan. Notwithstanding, of course, the fact that it was the Iran Hostage Debacle, giving away the Panama Canal, and a host of other bonehead moves, that really cost Carter the election.
In typical Pol fashion, Bill and Hillary will want to sabotage Obama’s campaign without leaving any fingerprints and without taking any responsibility. Accordingly, Obama better be smart enough *not* to hire any of the old Clintonistas for his campaign. See Kerry, John, 2004 campaign of.
May 7, 2008 - 9:49 am 25. Michel de Nostredame:I knew personally the great Queen Catherine de’ Medici, niece of Pope Clement VII, consort of King Henry II of France, mother of three Kings, Francis II, Charles IX and Henry III. Looking at Hillary it seems me to see Catherine. No, Sirs. This extraordinary woman will never yield to a nonentity like Obama what is due to her, but will rather prepare another St. Bartholomew’s Day for this wretched Party of false Democrats.
May 7, 2008 - 10:45 am 26. John Samford:Queen Catherine de’ Medici, Wasn’t she the inventor of the pink tent suit? Or was it stiletto heels? I know it wasn’t the throng.
May 7, 2008 - 11:22 am 27. Cindy Sue Causey:Hey, Hilary..
For what it’s worth in its weight in a Hill of political jumping beans, my friends say she needs to hang it out.. They don’t feel they will be amply represented otherwise.. Personal experience the last few weeks says ditto from these fingertips..
For what write-ins are worth where available, it ain’t over ’til it’s over if it’s over soon..
Chin up..
May 7, 2008 - 11:24 am 28. huxley:The white folks haven’t gotten comfortable with voting for a black candidate and a significant number of them may not get there.
However, Obama is not just any black candidate. He is a black candidate who has spent 20 years active in an arguably black racist church and in a close relationship with its wacko pastor, who considers Louis Farrakhan a great man.
Now that Obama’s campaign and integrity are on the line, Obama is finally disavowing that pastor. Nonetheless, many whites and other people are going to keep wondering where Obama’s principles were when he was sitting in that church all those years.
May 7, 2008 - 11:42 am 29. Andrew:How many commentors will threaten to leave the country when Obama wins in November? I must have missed the news that old John McCain was an unstoppable candidate. Yet I did read that Republicans were still voting for Romney and Huckabee in yesterdays primary. I think you all need to seriously look at the weakness of your candidate, because from what I see the only thing he can moping up he’ll be doing in November is his soup with some bread at the old folks home.
May 7, 2008 - 11:57 am 30. Dwight::Knoll » Blog Archive » links for 2008-05-07:[...] Pajamas Media » Hillary: Should She Stay or Should She Go? (tags: article politics) [...]
May 7, 2008 - 12:44 pm 31. Buddy Saleeby:What kind of biased forum is this?
May 7, 2008 - 1:12 pm 32. huxley:Guess I wandered into the wrong space.
How claustrophobic.
Obama in 2008 !!!
Andrew — Progressives and liberals threaten to leave the country; cenrists and conservatives don’t. I suspect there’s a lesson there about who loves America and who doesn’t.
Not to worry, those on the center-right know McCain’s weaknesses well enough. The only angle from which McCain looks unstoppable is the angle of Obama’s considerable weaknesses. I’d like to think Obama is unelectable, but this is a very unual election year.
May 7, 2008 - 1:32 pm 33. Hugh Blake:You can’t keep a good man down. His opponents have found that it has been an exercise in futility to try and find any skeleton in Obama’s closet and therefore they have resorted to attacking his character through acquaintances. Those who are doing this know very well that they are being dishonest. George bush had a very questionable spiritual advisor prior to his nomination and subsequent ascendency to the Whitehouse and not much was said of that. It’s a shame how racist some America ns remain to this day, if Obama was a white man the race would be over long ago, he would undoubtedly be the nominee and by now going at the Republican nominee. He is the best candidate for the Job that America need to get down both domestically and internationally to restore its credibility and to untie its people. Put aside you prejudices do what is right for America
May 7, 2008 - 1:55 pm 34. Carolina:This is in response to the very first posting on this blog. You say that it is not in “her best interest” to stop the race. But that’s the problem with those that continue to push her along to the end of this campaign. I don’t care what is in Hillary Clinton’s best interest. I care about what is in the best interest of the United States, of the voters, and of the party as a whole.
I started out watching Obama and Clinton battle it out thinking that either of them was suitable for the position. However, now that I have seen the Clinton Ego take over, I have decided that she is not the best candidate. She sits there and makes claims of her opponent outspending her. Well, honestly, who cares. He’s not in debt, while she can’t help but loan herself money in order to keep going. She talks about her so-called victory in Indiana as though her win was in the double-digits. I need someone who sticks to the issues. Stop taking jabs at your opponent and just admit that you’ve lost. Better to go out gracefully and not as the candidate who didn’t know when to quit.
May 7, 2008 - 2:08 pm 35. Michel de Nostredame:To John Samford:
Exactly. She invented many things. The stiletto heels was her most witty invention. This stiletto was extremely thin, like Florentine alchemists needles. So when she touches slightly somebody, a man (or woman) he is dead before he realizes. Poor Obama! He is dead and doesn’t know it.
May 7, 2008 - 2:16 pm 36. Time to go:What are “the pink tent suit” and “the throng” I don’t know. I am old man. I was born in 1503, but the movement of the planets is always the same.
She should definately GO! why stay it would definately be for selfish reasons now when she needs more delagates to win that there are left in the future primaries.Unless she is trying to push the pop vote issue hoping to advance her count in the up coming primaries. Just in case the FL and MI argument do work in her favor.If the super delagates are going to put her over they should be doing it now look like. She is definately a SPOILER like her friend Nadar now and certainly is not doing the party any good. If Bill was half a man look like he should be able to persuade her to do what is best for the party.
May 7, 2008 - 2:30 pm 37. huxley:if Obama was a white man the race would be over long ago, he would undoubtedly be the nominee and by now going at the Republican nominee.
If Obama were a white man, he would have been laughed out of the race immediately for running with almost no experience and no accomplishments.
If Obama were a white man, his political career would have been over for good, for being member of a church with “White Values” based on the theology of a White Jesus, and a pastor babbling in public about the differences in brains between whites and blacks.
May 7, 2008 - 2:53 pm 38. Bea:Hillary is demonstrating that her judgement really is off staying in the race at all cost, regardless who is affected. She says she is a fighter, but the truth is we do not need a fighter in the White House, we need a diplomat. If she became President, the U.S. would be facing so many wars, not just Iraq, because she wants to fight. We care about her, but she is turning into a real psyco. I pray that she does not go ba..ssert in front of the whole world, trying to prove that she is a fighter. All she has been through with Bill Clinton has her determine to prove something. (Woman to woman we believe you are a fighter. You do not have to prove it to us. You had to be a fighter to stay with Bill that long under all circumstances. Fighters do that).
May 7, 2008 - 3:08 pm 39. Chuck:Even Hillary’s campaign is designed to be selfish. Obama’s campaign says “Yes WE can.” Hillary” Campaign says “Yes SHE can.” Her message is, “I will fight for you, I will not stop fighting for you.” (Not WE, but I. Its all about I) I will fix healthcare, I will get those oil giants and make them pay, I will straighten out the economy, I will fix this greenhouse problem….. Humbly the Diplomat says Yes WE (US, together)can. It takes all of us. We are in this together. 911 should have made that clear. We were all helpless together, White, Brown, Black, Yellow or green, old or young, blue collar, white collar or what ever. We were all in the same Boat, (The United States of America). Together we stand, Divided we fall. Think about it…the same boat uuh.
Hillary should stay in as long as she wants to, she is a fighter and no one should have the right to tell her to quit, a loser like McGovern or a pompous ass like Jack Cafferty. Your station is great but the only middle of the road, legitimate person on your station is Lou Dobbs, the rest of you are terribly biased in this primary toward Obama, I wonder why???
May 7, 2008 - 3:44 pm 40. shame on u:I have been reading left and right about whats going on and I believe until someone starts taking about actual intellgient reasons why they have vote for either Obama or Clinton, i believe no one should vote. Read about the issues, find out what each one of the candidates stand for, instead of talking about race, gender, and what is on the opinionated news.
May 7, 2008 - 3:57 pm 41. Hyram Haram:She should:
1) Threaten to run as independent if not given nomination
2) Threaten to campaign with McCain if not given nomination
Conservatives have grudging respect for her performance among working-class Dems and her tough stand on foreign policy questions. McCain-Clinton ticket, anyone? How about Clinton-Lieberman independent ticket?
May 7, 2008 - 4:18 pm 42. sagi:Obama IS a white man, equally as much as he is black.
He is considered black by his blatant assertion only, and this politically driven choice is held to trump the facts of the matter.
If we were only to start correctly calling him white (as he is far more than he is black … he shares none of the American black experience, having a white mother and white grandmother who raised him and a hardly known non-American black father), the facts would remain the same and the preception of his intended audience would be entirely opposite.
May 7, 2008 - 4:23 pm 43. Swan Song For Hillary? « Obi’s Sister:[...] reached their gag limit with Obama. Rick Moran wonders if this is the beginning of the end (also at PJM). Fausta outlines two options. MVRWC said that Patrick Ruffini said I’m hoping Hillary stays in [...]
May 7, 2008 - 5:41 pm 44. elmer:Bea has it exactly right about Billary:
Not WE, but I. Its all about I
She said she would not have gone to Obama’s church. Maybe there’s too much sniper fire in the United Church of Christ. But the ex-pastor of that Church showed up for prayer breakfasts, along with 100 other ministers, when Bill Klinton was trying to show contrition for his Monica Lewinsky episode.
Or maybe there aren’t enough shots and a beer. Or maybe there aren’t enought pantsuits. Or maybe the people haven’t made $109 million, like the Klintons did, and they don’t have their own charitable foundations of their own, like the Klintons, for who-knows-what.
HiLIARry – Porky Pig in a pantsuit – we don’t need it. We’ve had enough of the Klintons.
May 7, 2008 - 6:34 pm 45. John Samford:“His opponents have found that it has been an exercise in futility to try and find any skeleton in Obama’s closet.”
Nonsense. Ohhh…Bama is a crook also. Look at the real estate deal he did for his house. Look at his campaign finances. No, Shrillery didn’t bring ANY of this up because she was caught 4 times cheating on her campaign finances the last 3 years. Politicians living in glass houses don’t start rock fights. I doubt that Big Mac will bring it up. No need to and it won’t matter. Demonrats keep re-electing their crooks.
It won’t be a walk in the sun for Big Mac, but as long as he doesn’t step on his crank, he will win.
Three reasons.
First is that both Democrats are far left. Too far left for mainstream America.
Second, the Campaign in Iraq is going very well. The Media keeps claiming it isn’t, which just proves how lacking in knowledge of warfare the Media is.
Three;
http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv
You can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
May 7, 2008 - 8:21 pm 46. JEN:ALl the lies told by the Democratic party over the last 6 years will be used against them this fall.
WOW, I GUESS I WILL WRITE IN hILLARY NAME ON THE BALLOT,I THINK WE CAN RIGHT? OH WELL I CERTANILY WONT VOTE FOR oBAMAAA??GOD HELP US ALL, I AM SIMPLY AMAZED AT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,OR OH WAIT,NO I AM NOT ,STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES,WHEN YOU VOTE FOR OBAMAAAA.I AGREE THAT GARY ,CITY WAS CROOKED WHICH IS WHY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THE VOTES TO COME IN,SOMEONE SHOULD CHECK THAT OUT AND SOMEONE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE RELATIONSHIP OBAMAA HAD WITH A LARRY SINCLAIR FROM INDIANIA,I BELIEVE THERE WERE SEX GAMES GOING ON WHEN HE WAS IN COLLEGE,THIS WOULD SUE BE A GREATR SURPRIZE/(HA-hA),HE IS WAY TO FAR LAFT FOR ME,I LOVE MY COUNTRY WITH ALL IT HAOPPINESS AND FAULTS,HE SHOULD GO BACK TO KENIA.
May 7, 2008 - 9:57 pm 47. momzen:Even in a democracy the last word belongs to the gods. As an ancient historian said, “even the grace of gods can help no mortal who lacks courage”. Hillary has courage. Obama possesses only meanness and cowardice. Even his obscene guru Rev. Wright will can not help him.
May 8, 2008 - 4:30 am 48. Geraldine:The Clintons seem ready to destroy the Democratic Party in pursuit of nomination. Are they really thinking that Obama has some very scary or damaging skeleton in his closet?
May 8, 2008 - 2:20 pm 49. John Samford:Geraldine, everybody has a skeleton in their closet. Ohhh….BAMA has a few, Shrillery has enough to fill up the National Cemetery several times over;
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NATION/602407036/1001
Shrillery wasn’t indicted for Whitewater because Bill would have whipped out his pen and signed a pardon.
May 8, 2008 - 11:02 pm 50. Kathy:Billery is staying in because if they win, ALL their legal problems go away.
Another thing is that EVERYONE is making a mistake about the super delegates.
Super delegates don’t get to vote until the convention. At this stage of the process, they have no vote. So counting their votes right now is a shell game. Both sides know this so they are making claims as a means of bluffing their opponent into quiting. Quitters NEVER win, winners never quit.
AFAIK, neither side can get enough pledged delegates to win even if they run the table. That is because Edwards has some and I think one of the other losers does too. After the first vote at the convention, the pledged delegates ALL become ’super’ in that they can vote for whomever they desire.
That is why Ohhh…..BAMA is trying to force Billery out now. He knows that at the convention he stands the same chance of beating Billery as he does of beating Tiger Woods in a long ball contest. Billery knows all this too, which is why she isn’t quitting. Most of the pundits know it, they just won’t say anything because it would be taking money out of their pockets.
The MSM isn’t going to tell you the truth, which is that you could take a nap until the convention and not miss anything. That is because if you take a nap, you can’t watch them on the boob tube.
Clinton takes Indiana by a ‘razor’ and Obama wins North Carolina by a huge margin. Nevertheless, Kentucky, Montana and West Virginia are still to come.
The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive – and most likely to be decided by superdelegates
If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama
If you haven’t done so yet, please write a message to each of your state’s superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com
Obama Supporters:
Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It’s that easy…
Clinton Supporters too …. !
It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Those are really worth !
Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It’s that easy…
May 9, 2008 - 3:29 am 51. Barney:To Geraldine:
And she (Hillary) does well destroying this monster (Democratic Party).
May 9, 2008 - 11:24 am 52. lee:A Mccain / Lieberman ticket is very attractive IMO. Mccain is appealing to the middle, so he might as well solidify that base.
Take Mccain for who he is – A 75-80% conservative who won’t have tea with America’s sworn enemies. His gas holiday ideas are ineffective, but if you build a couple refineries in Iraq (a long way there) our oil problems might be history. There’s a lot of oil in Iraq, you know. (Not that oil is the reason why we should stay there, lefty conspiracy notwithstanding)
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May 12, 2008 - 4:05 am 54. Hillary’s Downfall: « Riggword Weblog:[...] Rick Moran Belmont Club [...]
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